Hi Phono Jones,

The new Rane Sixty-Two mixer will have video support inside Scratch Live when it is released.

Cheers :)

Word!!

why was the sp and cue button taken off the 61... that was a good selling point for me

pretty sure for cheap dj's.

and there is no need to have 2 mixers with it on there being a 2 channel mixer.

So the 62 can do everything the 68 can do when it comes to Video Sl, midi mapping etc.. There hasnt been much info on the 62 and video Sl.

On the Rane site it says that both the 61 & 62 will be compatible with VSL (whatever that means, lol)
www.RANE.com

it means the faders will control audio and video

Okay, but will it be "midi-like" as the 57 was or will it be "real-midi" so you can map 3rd party software actions (let's just use MEs effects as an example ;-)) to the buttons & knobs of the 62/61?

the 57 wasn't "midi like" at all.

This what I'd like to know aswell. I'm thinkin it'll be real MIDI cause the Serato name isn't on the mixer anywhere, but I could be wrong.

@marx: well within the tiny little world of the serato software u could map the 57 the way you wanted, that's why I called it midi-like. ;-)

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its midi, the asio/ core drivers will also be released immediately when the mixer comes out (68 drivers werent released for 6 months), since the 62 has a back button it means it is midi... its the way u scroll your library.... slightly different than the 57, on the 57 the left knob scrolls crates the right knob the songs, with midi its different........ both knobs scroll whatever section is highlighted..... so when you get to the crate you want you push either p1 or p2 (doesnt matter) to select the crate, and then to load the song you push the corresponding side... then you use the back button to get back into crates, at first i didnt like it because i was used to the 57, but then i realized its much more versatile because with the midi system you can load tracks from the prepare window and search window, when i last tried i could only load tracks with a 57 from my crates.....anyway since it has a back button , its midi.....

This is the best description i have found so far.

Watchwww.youtube.com

^^nice

totally midi-mappable

DOH, lol!! Ok just so I'm clear the 62 is MIDI mappable and the 61 isn't, right?

can't wait to feel the buttons

The 61 is apparently not midi mappable. You would have to get a pair of dicers etc..

It would be funny to see somebody using a 62 with Traktor

Here he says it is, serato.com
How else would it control VSL?? I like the 62 but its way more mixer then I really need.

People are using the DJM-T1 with Scratchlive so I can see it happening.

the DJM-T1 sound card has issues running Traktor...will post a link

So does the DJM-900. Not surprised.

really the DJM900 doesn't work well with traktor? im surprised NI put there sticker on it without it being tight.

The Denon DN-X1600 has issues as well.

+11111

have trakor an its not ALL what people say it is...I bought it when they audio 8 was on sale. I was like wow it must be light years ahead of SSL...Nope its the other way around. Try it for yourself

Yup this is why he was probably using SSL in the video for pioneer. Never seen anybody use Traktor on a Rane 57!

well except me at home...LOL

i have done it. setup a the mixer, midi controller and soundcard right inside a turntable case.
it was a nice mobile setup...hated it. never did it again.

i was expecting this thread to be full of ideas about how you'd map the 62 for use with vsl?

I'm working on mine already and will be making a faceplate to suit. probably not in japanese this time though ha

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Yah, me too!!

I guess when people actually get the new 62 and start figuring everything out with Video SL. This thread will populate.

I think the 62 is over-rated and 61 has been dummied down. Why take away the cue button... I don't think that would've been to much to ask for.. Maybe Rane should've ask what features should've been included on each mixer... But it is their product and they can make it just the way they want to

what's different about it?

there are no cue point buttons on the 61. now you HAVE to buy something like the dicer

But it's cheaper then the 57.

I would hope so since it's been downgraded

oh, cue POINT button.
thought you meant audio cue button.

even though i use dicers for cue points that does mess things up considering my setup is fully custom. those cue point buttons definitely helped a lot.

And even to find out the capability of the 61.. there's only a lil information about it.. most video's touch on the but go into great detail about the 62... And how dumb is it to have to set ups on one mixer.. that to me mean I have to reach over two turntables/cdj's to use the mixer... Unless your going to put the mixer between each set up and either was is still stupid

So in your opinion I should just get the 57 and call it good? I like the 62 but for my needs its just over kill. I like the 57 but no MIDI so I can't use it with other programs and that's a must for me.

IMO the 57 would be idea.. I have one but I had to get a midi controller (The Nanokontrol got the nanoKontrol and the NanoKontrol 2 (Well recommended) with 8 slides 8 knobs and 24 buttons I have everything in ME midi to it and a few feature of SSl as well

Hahaa, got the Kontrol aswell. I guess ill wait till someone in my area has one (61/62) on display and try em out before I spend...

sooo not impressed with the 61 especially with less controls.
fully mappable, big deal. would need to add another midi controller to switch from a 57. seems like a downgrade and it probably is meant to be.

Hmm, looks like the Ecler & SL3 will be sticking around a little longer...

Buying a 57 would be like buying a cdj1000. What is the point. Its old tech. not that it is bad, and was great in its day, but its day had passed and i think it would be crazy to not consider either the 61 or 62 over the 57.

people keep comparing the 57 to a 61. The 61 is more like an upgraded 56s with an audio interface. It is a mixer for people that use external midi controller and don't want the added expense of two sound cards and internal effects (already pioneer 1000). For people in this category this mixer is an awesome buy! Cheaper than a 57 and removes stuff they don't need or can add later.

Yes it is.. I never looked @ it like that.. And I would've got a 56.. So I'll never get the 61.. Thanks for making it clearer

+1

Pretty sure i said the same exact thing somewhere too, and someone else also wrote it. But finally someone else speaks the truth.

I said it. And tell everybody I know that but everybody still crying on the price. I will have my 62z and probley keep the 57. Im not conplaining on price. Wanna play with the big dawgs then u gotta pay the piper.

excuse me, but that sounds like a flip flop

didn't you say?

how do you feel about paying for upgrades now?

61 speaks midi as well as the 62.

only thing is - whats already pre mapped / a mixer function will not be disabled (on both of them).

but you DO can use e.g the "session in" knob to turn something in SSL, in case you don't actually need the session in.
(because turning the knob would still affect the session in volume, can't disable that)

that is the same as on the sixty eight by the way, and just common sense.

lots of people use the mic controls of the sixty eight to control the DJ FX.
you can obviously do the same on the sixty one, as long as you don't need a mic.

www.rane.com, page two:

thats not a upgrade to me thats something very needed.

lol...quite true.


what's funny is many people feel an upgrade is something very needed,
especially in vsl and ssl.
i wonder if those people would pay for what they need?

As much as free is fun, and when I was younger I didn't mind running free flavors of Linux and downloading pirated copies of this and that... I realize that my time and others is worth money. Some folks will never understand that so it's no point in arguing it with them.

While it may KEEP me from upgrading as fast, if a product has features I want, be it hardware or software, I will eventually buy it.

So if I have cdj2000s and I want to upgrade from dfm400 mixer. And I'm trying to get more into video-sl and controlling everything from my mixer. Which mixer should I buy? I was just bout to get a 57 till I saw the upgrades. But I don't care bout two sound cards/2 djs feature with 62 however I like the effects since I'm use to pioneer mixers. If I can control video-sl all from the 61 mixer, it seems like this is the way to go. thoughts?

I say cause you use CDJ's get the DJM900 and another small MIDI controller for some video efx and extras.

Yeah I will look into that mixer but I kind of wanted to get rid of my sl3 box and any other add on devices. I prefer having everything all in one.

I totally know what you mean. But until rane makes a good 4ch mixer (not holding my breath), why force it when you can get better stuff from other manufactures.

Heres an idea for you.
Do you take your own decks with you to most of the places you play? and if not your own decks your own mixer? if so why not get a mixer case or full coffin case, build your serato box into it with the mixer. and set it up so you dont ever take the mixer out of the box, all of the cables could live in the case also. it would make for quick setup's.
I used todo this, but most of the clubs i play at have 2000's and a DJM mixer of some kind already. And any of those clubs dont want me moving there stuff just to setup the same stuff in my cases with cables. :( so i just organize the hell out of my cables in my DJ bag into colour coded pencil cases.

I actually do exactly this. I have two of my 1200's, my DJM-800, and SL-3 box in a coffin case with everything already pre-wired and all cables neatly tied up and organized.

Everything is very secure too...there is padding to cover the space between the 1200's and the top of the case and the SL-3 is velcroed to one of the carpeted shelves inside the case. The power cords for everything are plugged into a surge protector that's in the coffin as well, so all I have to do is run one power cable to an outlet and I'm good to go.

It's a great setup but unfortunately it's basically impossible to carry by myself. Usually have to get one of the door guys at the places I play at to help out, or if it's a wedding I'll ask someone from the staff. If you bring all your own gear to the places you play at (and you're friends with the door guys) then I'd highly recommend looking into a similar setup.

But if all you have to bring is your own mixer then getting a flight case with the SL box inside and wired up like Code:E recommended is a great idea too.

The Rane 68 is a more than good 4 channel mixer...use one and you will see!

Been there done that..... the 68 leave lots to be desired. Biggest issue i have is placement of knobs on the mixer, everything is too close together. I would take my Xone92 or any top end DJM mixer(800/900/2000) any day of the 68.

You have your opinion I have mines...my post was for Rodbo tho! I hate that the effects knob on the pioneer mixers...

Yeah I was thinkin bout the 68. That would give me what I want but I read a lot of things like it had some faulty issues.

the only 'REAL' problem is the midi cue buttons (useable for everything except drumming)...everything else is butter!

the new mixer are basically the same thing...except improved cue buttons!

To each there own. I dont like it and im sure there's tons of people of this forum that would agree with both of us.

very true....

i just don't like the sound of the effects. to me it seems quite obvious on a pioneer when the effects are on and less obvious on a 57.