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Serato Crashing Running Vidoes from my External HDD

Product
Scratch Live
Version
2.2.0
Hardware
Rane TTM 57SL
Computer
Mac
OS
Platform
-
DJ Kor 10:03 PM - 3 January, 2012
3 out of my last 5 gigs with a packed club, Scratch Live has crashed on me. I am running Mix Emergency for my videos using a Seagate FreeAgent 1tb drive with Firewire. Previously I was using a 500gb Lacie Rugged Hard Drive with Firewire and never had a crash. It leads to believe it could be the hard drive causing this? I don't get a notification that my drive has been disconnected or anything though. One important thing to note is that I do usually only have about 6 to 10 gigs of free space on my hard drive at any given time. I never have crashes when I am running audio only from the internal drive.

When it crashes...the audio just dies out. The track continues to spin on my deck until it appears the "buffer" of 15 seconds has run out...then the track waveforms just disappear. Then it just stops responding. If i load in a track off of my internal HDD, nothing happens. If I try restarting Serato, it re-crashes immediately and won't open. I HAVE TO RE-BOOT my Macbook Pro to get Scratch Live to work properly again.

Mix Emergency pushes the limits of my MBP - but I am confident this isn't the main issue causing the crashes as Mix Emergency has warnings that pop up if I need to be concerned with anything.

I also cut and paste my Crash report at the bottom of this.

Before I go and buy a 1tb Lacie Ruggd or another hard drive, I wanted to try to get some insight on what might be causing this? Thanks so much everyone!

My Scratch Live settings are:
15 Second Buffer
30 Max Screen Updates

My Macbook Pro Specs are:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,4
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.53 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP53.00AC.B03
SMC Version (system): 1.49f2

CRASH REPORT

Process: Scratch LIVE [251]
Path: /Applications/Scratch Live.app/Contents/MacOS/Scratch LIVE
Identifier: com.serato.scratchlive
Version: Scratch Live version 2.2 (2.2.0.33)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [99]

Date/Time: 2011-12-22 20:22:02.033 -0600
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.serato.scratchlive 0x0009c846 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 600924
1 com.serato.scratchlive 0x0009d638 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 604494
2 com.serato.scratchlive 0x0009e1b1 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 607431
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x0009ebde std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 610036
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00071f2a std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 426560
5 com.serato.scratchlive 0x000bafb9 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 725711
6 com.serato.scratchlive 0x000af448 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 677726
7 com.serato.scratchlive 0x0000a01e std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 820
8 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00009f45 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 603

Thread 1: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902db382 kevent + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902dba9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902daf59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902dacfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902da781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902da5c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902da412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902da9a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902da5c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4b5a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e26e1 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x903115a8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00080dc9 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 487647
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x0029c290 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 2696614
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e26f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9032b05f pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00080def std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 487685
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00051c44 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 294746
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e26f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9032b05f pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00080def std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 487685
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00286368 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 2606718
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e26f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9032b05f pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00080def std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 487685
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00055ddd std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 311539
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e26f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9032b05f pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00080def std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 487685
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00055ddd std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 311539
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e26f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9032b05f pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00080def std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 487685
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00055ddd std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 311539
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4b42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e26f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9032b05f pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00080def std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 487685
4 com.serato.scratchlive 0x00055ddd std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 311539
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902b4c0e mach_wait_until + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9033c429 nanosleep + 345
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9033c2ca usleep + 61
3 com.serato.scratchlive 0x0009a748 std::map<int*, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*, std::less<int*>, std::allocator<std::pair<int* const, CInterprocessCommsAudioQueueRefCountStruct*> > >::map() + 592478
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e2259 _pthread_start + 345
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x902e20de thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0xbffff74b ecx: 0x27fd1200 edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0xbffff74f esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbffff768 esp: 0xbffff680
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010293 eip: 0x0009c846 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x00000000

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6:30 PM, 4 Jan 2012
Discussion moved to Video-SL Help
Serato, Moderator
AnthonyS 2:36 AM - 5 January, 2012
Hi DJ Kor,

Sorry to hear your having issues with your setup. From what you have described it does sound like an issue with the hard drive rather than the software at this stage.

It is recommended that you don't run your drive with less than 10-15% of free space.

Also, ME is a third party application and you will need to contact them in regards to any problem that there software is causing.

I suggest re formatting that drive MAC OS Journaled and NOT running it without any free space. Let me know how you get on and we'll take it from there.

Anthony
DJ Kor 7:11 PM - 6 January, 2012
Thank you. The hard drive space (or lack of) was on my internal, which I increased. My external hard drive has plenty of free space. Again, I don't think ME had anything to do with it...I was just hoping that based on my crash report you could help me identify the issue.

I am re-formatting my HDD as we speak - so thank you for that advice!

Side note, I have VSL as well, but I haven't been able to figure out a way to correct video delay on it. Which is why I use ME.

Thanks for your time!
Serato, Moderator
AnthonyS 10:29 PM - 9 January, 2012
Hi DJ Kor,

OK, let me know how it goes once you have reformatted the hard drive.

The 'Delay Compensation' feature of ME is something we are looking to implement but I don't have a confirmed date at this stage.
DJ Kor 12:02 AM - 10 January, 2012
The new hard drive didn't work. I am wondering if it is compatibility b/w Serato 2.2 and Mix Emergency. I am going to switch back to VSL this week and cross my fingers :)
Serato, Moderator
AnthonyS 2:00 AM - 10 January, 2012
Hi DJ Kor,

Ok, let me know how you get on and if you have any further questions.
DJ Kor 5:36 AM - 1 February, 2012
I ran VSL with my original hard drive for two shows with no crashes, then peak hour on Saturday it did it again. The music cuts out. The buffer "wave forms" play out and then Serato freezes up.

I have to restart my computer and everything works fine again.

I am wondering if it could be my firewire port? I've had the problem with 2 external different hard drives (both firewire bus powered) and using both VSL and Mix Emergency.

or

Could it be a corrupt database of some sort?

My computer seems to be able to handle the graphics load, etc no problem.

Any ideas?
phatbob 10:30 AM - 1 February, 2012
What spec is your laptop?

For both decks to lock up does suggest the drive is a possibility, although I haven't really heard of FireWire ports going bad.

Did you reformat that drive to MacOS Extended as suggested?
DJ Kor 6:51 PM - 2 February, 2012
Hi Phatbob,

Yes, I did reformat to MacOS extended as suggested on my external.

An interesting new development just occurred - last night my Scratch Live did the exact same thing again, "crashing", except this time I was only playing MP3s off of my INTERNAL drive. I haven't had a Serato crash using MP3's since the last time I updated both my TTM 57 hardware and SL at the same time.

This makes me wonder if I am having some issues with....

Scratch Live
TTM 57
Or my laptop itself.

Here are my specs
My Scratch Live settings are:
15 Second Buffer
30 Max Screen Updates

My Macbook Pro Specs are:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,4
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.53 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP53.00AC.B03
SMC Version (system): 1.49f2
DJ Kor 7:05 PM - 2 February, 2012
Also, it's been occurring on both Serato 2.2 and 2.3.
Code:E 9:14 PM - 2 February, 2012
Quote:
I am wondering if it is compatibility b/w Serato 2.2 and Mix Emergency.

I would be trying 2.3.3. and not 2.2 it had issues.
You may want to try and back down to 1.9.2 just to test.
also make sure the 57sl's firmware is updated. Are you getting the USB light yellow and red?
Maybe try running your MBP in 32bit mode.
to run in 32 bit mode hold "3" and "2" down well starting up.

Also what OS are you running? I hope your still on 10.6.8 Snow leopard. and not lion.
Code:E 9:14 PM - 2 February, 2012
Also is that a 13 inch? or 15? do you have a dedicated video card?
DJ Kor 11:55 PM - 2 February, 2012
Hey Man,

It's a 15" without a dedicated video.

But last night I had the exact same type of crash using only MP3's on an internal drive.

I am wiping my MBP as we speak, reinstalling and going back down to SL 1.9.2 and crossing my fingers.

If I get another crash with a perfectly clean MBP I think I can narrow it down to maybe a corrupt database, something f'd up in my MBP, or maybe even something going on with my TTM 57.

I'm dumbfounded....and so close to buying a new MBP, but trying to avoid needing to do that. It's frustrating investing in the "best" gear and looking like an amateur DJ peak hour of the night when you crash.
Code:E 12:19 AM - 3 February, 2012
did you bebuild your v2 data base file?
Code:E 12:19 AM - 3 February, 2012
yet?
Code:E 12:19 AM - 3 February, 2012
Quote:
It's frustrating investing in the "best" gear and looking like an amateur DJ peak hour of the night when you crash.
Code:E 12:20 AM - 3 February, 2012
try the 32bit mode if you have an i series processor. also like i said befdore make sure your hardware (tm57) is up to date with firmware.
DJ Kor 12:47 AM - 3 February, 2012
Haven't rebuilt my v2 database file...do you have a link about this so i can learn more? I plan to re-scan everything tomorrow.

What does 32bit mode too? Sorry for asking
Code:E 6:50 AM - 3 February, 2012
you computer has a 64 bit processor. but it can run in 332 bit mode. lots of older software was/ is still programmed in 32 bit mode.... the details are really geeky. google it if you like.
Mo Niklz 3:10 AM - 4 February, 2012
I had a similar problem with my external hard drive I switched the connection from firewire to usb and haven't had a problem since. Realistically usb deals with smaller files easily unless your loading an entire movie it shouldn't be much slower.
Serato, Moderator
AnthonyS 8:24 PM - 13 February, 2012
Hi DJ Kor,

All good suggestions here.

I would start with rebuilding your database V2 file first; sera.to

I would also recommend updating to Scratch Live 2.3.3 as this has resolved a number of issues regarding video files.

Scratch Live is a 32bit application but also runs fine in 64bit.
djKenaceTheMenace 9:51 PM - 13 February, 2012
as a precaution though when you upgrade to Scratch live 2.3.3 the meta data is unique to 2.3.3 and you will not be able to play those files with a previous version of Scratch Live.
10:00 PM, 27 Feb 2012
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