Hi D.J Miracle,

Sorry to hear you are having these issues.

The Sync system has changed from older versions of ITCH. Are you positive that both syncs are illuminated blue, and the beat position indicator and running together in time?
Are your beatgrids set up correctly?

Does this issue happen when the motors and on AND off?

Are you using key lock?

Thanks :)

Hey Martin,

It happens with any loop, if I manual push the loop button it stays in sync & it occurs with or without the motors on, I do have key lock activated. A lot of times I like to loop a small phrase or section of the beat and bring in a new song and make remixes when DjN live the beat sync at times seems to do more damage that actually helping, matching tempo is the most important thing for me as I rather have control of what beat to bring in my mixes, but I tried it both ways and if I understand the new sync system correctly I believe it's activated correctly, I use to use virtual DJ and it's so simple to sync and loop, and once you set a loop it stays in beat, you just don't get the real scratch turn table feel when scratching with virtual DJ as you do with itch. But I haven't been able to get this to work correctly.

Are all your files analyzed and the beatgrids are correct?

Does this happen with all of your files?

Is it possible for you to make a little recording of the song sounding distorted? Does it sound any less distorted with key lock off?

Even if it was possible to make a short video of your loop falling out of sync as well that would be real helpful.

Thanks

I have found that, with auto loop the loops stay in sync, but when I manual set the loops by selecting the in and out they don't loop correctly and I come in accurately with my in and out points. As far as the distortion with tempo change through trial and error I found out that itch does not like 96kps mp3 bit rate files, I took the same files and resampled them to 128 or higher bit rate and no more distortion during tempo change. What would be your way of handling the sync issue the best way possible to get the files back to there original tempo(in light of the new sync system), and I am also noticing a few files that I am getting bpms that are analyzed wrong, virtual dj analyzed the same files correctly where as serato was completely off, so I used tap, but why does this happen, but I hope this discussion and your input and my trial and error is helpful for any one facing similar issues...

Hi D.J Miracle,

I am unsure how the loops could be incorrect if you are accurate with pressing LOOP IN and LOOP OUT to make a good loop. It would be helpful if you could make a video of this happening so I can see it not working for you.
Does the loop appear visually correct and the same as an auto loop of the same length?

A 96kbps file is of very poor quality, so any manipulation of such a file, isn't going to be great. The problem may seem less when you resample it to 128kbps, but this does not actually improve the quality of the song, and I am sure you are still bound to run into quality of sound issues. Are you using key lock when changing the pitch?

Not all BPMs that are analyzed can be completely accurate. Different programs use different methods of calculating BPM and some songs that ITCH may get correct, Virtual DJ may get incorrect and vice versa.

Often ITCH can calculate the BPM double or half what it should be, is the case for you?

What songs particular are incorrect, and what is the BPM showing instead?

I will try and post a video when I get my unit back I had to send it in for repair, and the inaccurate BPM was not even half the value, the song is called Count it up by young Jeezy, and it's giving me like a 101 BPM, when the real BPM is about 70 or 140 depending on how the BPM is calculated so I'm clear on how BPM is calculated and Itch is completely off. If you could get the song, try it and see what it does for you. As far as the re-sampling it changes the file all together, even at 96kps files play clearly and I don't have any sound issues unless manipulation was attempting, once the file has been resampled all has been good with every file I have tried...

A video would be very helpful indeed!

Are you able to attach that song to this thread so I could try it out for myself?

Did you try correct the BPM manually to see if the problem is still there?

File is attached and I will upload a video as soon as possible...Manually BPM works fine, I just don't know why Serato didn't calculate proper BPM.

Yes, the loops will not correctly work unless the BPM is correct, and for some reason ITCH can't detect this accurately.

The song doesn't appear to really have any definitive transients for ITCH to calculate the BPM from, so it will struggle. Unfortunately in this situation you will have to manually tap the BPM to get it right, so the loops will function correctly.

Cool, thanks do you have any suggestion of my tempo issue sometimes I wanna sync a song just long enough to bring it in the mix smoothly and think I like to immediately go back to the songs original tempo if it's something that I have adjusted by more than 10BPM and you can't do this under the new sync system in the 2.0 versions but you good in 1.7 just by pushing sync button to get out of the change synced BPM as the manual tempo slider doesn't allow you to get back to original tempo, I understand the motor machine limitations but 1.7 had a clear cut solution for this, you just pushed the sync button again and wahla....lol Thank U.

Do you mean that if you pressed sync again after the mix, you wish for it to return to its original tempo straight away?

Would that not be quite an abrupt change in the music?

You could more gradually move the song back to its original tempo by changing the pitch back to "0" then turning off sync. This would then sound a bit better audibly too.

Is this what you meant?

Yes, I like doing it right away, If you do it right I think it sounds better than the gradual change, but if you sync say a 90BPM song with a 130BPM Song you can't get the song gradually back to the tempo using the pitch change tempo slider ect... You don't have enough play in the adjustment unless there's something I'm missing...

I dont believe there is a way to return back to the original tempo, other than reloading the track.

The fact that you dont have enough play in the adjustment of the pitch sounds like you are limited by "range".

Try pressing on the button "RANGE" directly above your pitch sliders (just below keylock)

This should increase the pitch range allowing your to reach a wider range of pitch/tempos with the songs you are playing.