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Time 4 new cans...Beats by Dre PRO or Pioneer HDJ 2000 ?!??

DjCity 3:47 PM - 7 March, 2011
Hey,
My Denon's Hp 1000's got ran over by a car (don't ask).
My Sony MDR 700's are in 3 pieces.
My Pioneer HDJ 1000's are in 2 pieces.
ALL headphones i've had in the past BREAK!!!!

I'm relatively gentle with headphones but all plastic headphones have a weak spot (HINGES)!!!

I am looking at 2 pair that don't seem to have this particular weakness.

Beats by Dre Pro's and Pioneer HDJ 2000's

I looked for direct comparisons of the two online but could not find anything helpful.

Now I ask the community..... Which ones are better?

I know that sound is subjective to the individual but I am looking for a comparison in sound, BUILD QUALITY, comfort and DURABILITY.

Anyone out there with real world experience with these two headphones?

I figure that if imma spend that kind of money for cans again, I really want em to last and NOT BREAK!!!!!!!!!
J.J. 4:27 PM - 7 March, 2011
I called AGIPRODJ a couple of weeks ago to order a AiAiAi TMA-1 Professional DJ Headphones for $200 because of the great reviews. Rick talked me into ordering the HDJ-2000 from Pioneer for just $55 more. I originally thought the 2000's were over $350 street price so they were out of my price range. I don't really care for Pioneer's overpriced equipment either.

However, they are metal (magnesium alloy), very light weight, soft pads that go over ears, very crisp mids and highs and excellent lows (for DJ's). You can use them for Studio work for hours at a time because they are that comfortable. I can't really speak on the longevity because I just got them, but I love them. It has a nice detachable (like a mini XLR) cord that locks into place.

Get the Beats by Dre if you want to be like every other 14 year old with rich parents. J/K they are great headphones but not designed to take the abuse that real DJ headphones need.
Djaward 4:45 PM - 7 March, 2011
I have the HD 2000 and I love them. I went from Sony 700's. The bulkiness of the 700 headphones started to get on my nerves. I then switched to Beats By Dres (Studios) and I did not like them. You can only wear them one way (On top, over both ears), no swivel ear cups and they break a lot faster than any other headphones Ive ever had. They sound great though, but truly not meant for Djs. The 2000 are worth the price. Very light weight, sound great and feel tough.

Go with the 2000
DjCity 4:45 PM - 7 March, 2011
I'm not talking about the Beats studio (battery powered) They suck in my opinion.

I'm talking about the Beats PRO
beatsbydre.com

All metal housing
vs.
Pioneer HDJ 2000
www.djdeals.com
Metal hinges

Thanks for the insight J.J. I appreciate it.
dj-dave-d 5:25 PM - 7 March, 2011
wasn't impressed with the dre's hdj 2000 are ok sennheiser hd25s are the shizzle ;) and as you are prone to breaking headphones all parts are raplaceable nd easy to change

oh and nothing comes close for sound isolation with the hd25's
Dj Bacik 8:56 PM - 7 March, 2011
Heres the difference. If you dj off the shoulder with the can flipped up then the beats are not for you. Thats where the deal breaker came in for me. I dj with my cans off the shoulder and the beats just don't swivel.

On a side note. The first week I had my hdj2000's they have a very noticeable corner that is metal. When wearing them around my neck I felt this and it was horrible. But after a week they started to break in and are now the most comfortable things ever. Plus my cord never snags.
ninos 12:02 AM - 8 March, 2011
i like the dres, they sounds good. feel solid. can swivle. but the price is out of this world. i love the pio's, great sounds. comfy, pretty pricey. but well worth it. id go with the pio.
Chris Deluxe 12:09 AM - 8 March, 2011
I own the 2000 since they came out, still lovin' them. All my previous HP's kept breaking, never had one that lasted longer then 6 months.
stevie o 12:18 AM - 8 March, 2011
I have had the tma-1's for 6 months. Love em. Small light loud perfect. I used pioneer v700's forever and made the switch. I love the beats pro, also. They sound great but have a douchebag quality about them. I will get them for my home studio soon
DJ-BRAVO 12:39 AM - 8 March, 2011
Get the Senhieser HD 25-II best headphones I ever owned...Light weight, Well built, Awesome sound quality....Trust me you won't regret it!
ta2423 12:48 AM - 8 March, 2011
Beats by dre.... An expensive NIKE sign.
Cool factor more than best of the best.
Chris Deluxe 12:49 AM - 8 March, 2011
I hear great reviews about the Senheiser all the time, but am i the only one who thinks their too ugly to be puttin' on a humans head?
DjCity 12:50 AM - 8 March, 2011
So far eveerybody stampin the Pioneers.
ta2423 1:01 AM - 8 March, 2011
Personally I like my technics... More in part of brand name matching. They do the job but in the same situation... Paid dough for a name.
DjCity 1:05 AM - 8 March, 2011
Anybody use the Beats Pro? I'm heaaring all good things about the 2000's but no real word on the Beats Pro's
Are they some BS?
DJMark 1:07 AM - 8 March, 2011
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Anybody use the Beats Pro? I'm heaaring all good things about the 2000's but no real word on the Beats Pro's
Are they some BS?


The price reflects a lot of things besides audio quality. Enough said.

Sennheiser HD-25. Again, enough said.
ta2423 1:10 AM - 8 March, 2011
serato.com
Here...
Dj Bacik 1:32 AM - 8 March, 2011
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i like the dres, they sounds good. feel solid. can swivle. but the price is out of this world. i love the pio's, great sounds. comfy, pretty pricey. but well worth it. id go with the pio.


They swing, not swivel.
ninos 2:32 AM - 8 March, 2011
thats what i ment... haha
DjCity 10:32 AM - 8 March, 2011
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I hear great reviews about the Senheiser all the time, but am i the only one who thinks their too ugly to be puttin' on a humans head?

I thought the same thing. I need one sided cord. And either swivle or swing. Don't think thee Senheisers fit either of those requiorments. They may be greeat cans but mos def not sexy.
DJWALDO 10:44 AM - 8 March, 2011
hdj 2000's WILL break on the hinges just like everything else.... i can provide pics if its absolutely needed. just know they break too
DjCity 10:49 AM - 8 March, 2011
I would like to see those pics. I want to see where and how Pioneer 2000 would break. I'm damn tired of headphones breaking which is why I'm looking at these two sets of cans instead of all the others.
DJWALDO 11:02 AM - 8 March, 2011
alright give me a minute
DJWALDO 11:08 AM - 8 March, 2011
s1029.photobucket.com

hopefully that link works lol
DJJorel 11:15 AM - 8 March, 2011
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I thought the same thing. I need one sided cord. And either swivle or swing. Don't think thee Senheisers fit either of those requiorments. They may be greeat cans but mos def not sexy


The HD25-1 II headphones swivel and have a one sided cord. You're probably talking about the HD25-SP II. Those one are considerably cheaper and have less features (No Swivel, 2 Sided Cord)

I have had my HD25s for about 6 years now. Before that, I must've spent a good $1000 on buying headphones and breaking them (been DJing since 1993). The Senns have taken a beating and still sound as great as the first day I got them.

Would you be willing to hold the Beats Pros or the Pioneers at shoulder height and drop them on concrete or a hard floor without worrying about them breaking? Honestly, I could drop my Senns on concrete without worrying about them breaking. Actually, I have...multiple times.
DJ GaFFle 12:02 PM - 8 March, 2011
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I would like to see those pics. I want to see where and how Pioneer 2000 would break. I'm damn tired of headphones breaking which is why I'm looking at these two sets of cans instead of all the others.

Do NOT get those Pioneer HDJ2000's... What a farce! Knowing the DJ world was littered with cookie-cutter plastic crap headphones, they toss another plastic unit out there and tout it with the illusion of being indestructible. Yes, the Pio's have a magnesium swivel but the fancy flanges are all plastic and the inner housing portions are plastic with a nice Made in China engraving slap on 'em. I will say, the HDJ2000's look super nice, not bulky and very light weight. They're probably some of the sexiest DJ headphones out there.

If you want indestructible, get the Beats PRO... not the $299 Beats... the $399 joints. All metal, no breakie OR if you are on a budget, get the workhorse Sony MDR 7506 Pro's. They fold, don't swivel but will last a long time with their mostly metal housing and construction and they're less than $100. I've got a pair that I've had since like '93. I've only had to replace the earpads.

I also have some Sennheiser HD25II's. I need a coil cord before I start using them more often.
DjCity 2:40 PM - 8 March, 2011
I would never get the Beats Studio. They some battery powered B.S. I would only get the Beats PRO's ($399). I can cop a pair for $260 including replacement warranty.

I just wanted to know which phones are better. Beats is just a name to me. Pioneer is overpriced traditionally, Beats are too but If i'm going to spend BIG bucks on a new set of cans, I want them to last. I believe the Beats might even be able to survive being run over by a car (would NOT test this theory). They mos def would survive a 7 foot drop to concrete.

I just don't wanna get some B.S.
Swyft 2:45 PM - 8 March, 2011
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro
BERTO 3:50 PM - 8 March, 2011
So apparently senheisser uses the same headphone in their highend and lowend headphones but put a peice of foam to change sound....
jbnyc 3:51 PM - 8 March, 2011
Damn those white beats by dre PRO are dope! Im going to the apple store this weekend to test them :)
BERTO 3:52 PM - 8 March, 2011
jedi sound system 2:49 PM - 9 March, 2011
I have the AIAIAI TMA-1 headphones. I love them, llightweight, very flexible, very good isolation, and they sound great!!!
terrible1fi 3:53 PM - 9 March, 2011
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So apparently senheisser uses the same headphone in their highend and lowend headphones but put a peice of foam to change sound....


thats a different model than the HD-25 II
Swyft 4:14 PM - 9 March, 2011
SELECT 4:27 PM - 9 March, 2011
Allen & Heath xone XD-53. Had them for over 2 years, unbreakable. Before that, technics broke, sonys broke, pioneers broke! The only other pair I would consider are the Sennheiser HD-25.

Both headphones are being used in this video- Watchwww.youtube.com
Dj Farhan 12:06 AM - 10 March, 2011
BEATS is overrated
DjCity 12:14 AM - 10 March, 2011
Does anyone have personal knowledge or experience with the two pair of headphones i'm asking about?

I am specifically looking at the...

PIONEER HDJ 2000
Informational link ...
pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com

BEATS BY DRE PRO
Informational link...
www.bestbuy.com

Click on link below for detailed pics of Beats Pro. (How they move/swing)
www.bestbuy.com

I am looking for the metal construction of these two sets of cans. I just want to know if one of them are better than the other and why.
I do not want the Beats Studio's. They are some B.S. (sorry if I offend anyone who owns em).

These are really the only two sets i'm seriously considering. Nothing wrong with the other suggestions and thank you all for them, but the two i'm asking about are really the only two i'm interested in unless there are another pair of metal cans out there.
jbnyc 12:20 AM - 10 March, 2011
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BEATS is overpriced!!


fixed!!
DjCity 12:31 AM - 10 March, 2011
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BEATS is overrated


Maybe for most but I can get the beats PRO's for about $260 instead of that ridiculous overprice of $400.

BEATS is overpriced...I agree but I got that problem fixed.
DjCity 12:32 AM - 10 March, 2011
Oops... I meant to quote BEATS is overpriced...
Dj Farhan 12:32 AM - 10 March, 2011
^ and how is that..;-P
DjCity 12:48 AM - 10 March, 2011
I got a partner that works for best buy and he will get them with his employee discount. That price includes replacement protection should anything ever happen to them.

I'm not worried about the price or that the beats are overpriced. For me, they are not overpriced cause i'm not paying anywhere near full price but slightly over half price and that includes a replacement warranty.

I just need to know which headphones are better, more durable and why.
jbnyc 12:51 AM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:
I got a partner that works for best buy and he will get them with his employee discount. That price includes replacement protection should anything ever happen to them.

I'm not worried about the price or that the beats are overpriced. For me, they are not overpriced cause i'm not paying anywhere near full price but slightly over half price and that includes a replacement warranty.

I just need to know which headphones are better, more durable and why.


damn!! i need to go to best buy and make friends there lol or hit on the ugliest chick! lol
dskreet 2:12 AM - 10 March, 2011
Senhieser HD 25-II

Sound great, can take a beating, are light and comfotable
DjCity 2:24 AM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:
Senhieser HD 25-II

Sound great, can take a beating, are light and comfotable

Thanks. senhieser makes Great headphones but IMO ugly as hell.

Does anyone have personal knowledge or experience with the two pair of headphones i'm asking about?
I am specifically looking at the...
PIONEER HDJ 2000
Informational link ...
pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com

BEATS BY DRE PRO
Informational link...
www.bestbuy.com

Click on link below for detailed pics of Beats Pro. (How they move/swing)
www.bestbuy.com
I am looking for the metal construction of these two sets of cans. I just want to know if one of them are better than the other and why.
I do not want the Beats Studio's. They are some B.S. (sorry if I offend anyone who owns em).
These are really the "only two sets i'm seriously considering". Nothing wrong with the other suggestions and thank you all for them, but the two i'm asking about are really the only two i'm interested in unless there are another pair of metal cans out there.
DJMark 2:26 AM - 10 March, 2011
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Thanks. senhieser makes Great headphones but IMO ugly as hell.


Headphones aren't a fashion accessory.

Way more than enough said.
dskreet 2:28 AM - 10 March, 2011
Get the Adidas version, they look dope!

www.dskreet.net
www.dskreet.net
DjCity 2:28 AM - 10 March, 2011
EVERYTHING is a fashion statement... Equipment and Headphones included.

Does anyone have personal knowledge or experience with the two pair of headphones i'm asking about?
I am specifically looking at the...
PIONEER HDJ 2000
Informational link ...
pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com

BEATS BY DRE PRO
Informational link...
www.bestbuy.com

Click on link below for detailed pics of Beats Pro. (How they move/swing)
www.bestbuy.com
I am looking for the metal construction of these two sets of cans. I just want to know if one of them are better than the other and why.
I do not want the Beats Studio's. They are some B.S. (sorry if I offend anyone who owns em).
These are really the "only two sets i'm seriously considering". Nothing wrong with the other suggestions and thank you all for them, but the two i'm asking about are really the only two i'm interested in unless there are another pair of metal cans out there.
DjCity 2:30 AM - 10 March, 2011
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Get the Adidas version, they look dope!

www.dskreet.net
www.dskreet.net

Not bad...
Not bad at all...
You make em? If so...show me what else u make.
DJMark 2:32 AM - 10 March, 2011
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EVERYTHING is a fashion statement... Equipment and Headphones included


That mindset is why the world is ending.

Half kidding.
dskreet 2:32 AM - 10 March, 2011
Nah, those are made by Adidas.
I do make Slipmats though!
www.dskreet.net
dskreet 2:33 AM - 10 March, 2011
DjCity 2:48 AM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:
Quote:


EVERYTHING is a fashion statement... Equipment and Headphones included


That mindset is why the world is ending.

Half kidding.


Sorry dude...I can't go out looking like a clown. I'm a professional DJ with professional equipment. You need to look the part as well as perform the part.

Does anyone have personal knowledge or experience with the two pair of headphones i'm asking about?
I am specifically looking at the...
PIONEER HDJ 2000
Informational link ...
pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com

BEATS BY DRE PRO
Informational link...
www.bestbuy.com

Click on link below for detailed pics of Beats Pro. (How they move/swing)
www.bestbuy.com
I am looking for the metal construction of these two sets of cans. I just want to know if one of them are better than the other and why.
I do not want the Beats Studio's. They are some B.S. (sorry if I offend anyone who owns em).
These are really the "only two sets i'm seriously considering". Nothing wrong with the other suggestions and thank you all for them, but the two i'm asking about are really the only two i'm interested in unless there are another pair of metal cans out there.
DJMark 2:58 AM - 10 March, 2011
I personally think those ridiculously huge chromed-up Pioneer headphones look very tacky and "clown-like", now that you mention it. Though my dislike for them is on mostly technical grounds.

Really don't see anything wrong (certainly nothing "unprofessional") about the look of the HD25's. They don't draw attention to themselves, they just work very well. That's pretty much what defines a truly "professional" product, in fact.
DjCity 3:19 AM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:
Quote:


Senhieser HD 25-II

Sound great, can take a beating, are light and comfotable

Thanks. senhieser makes Great headphones but IMO ugly as hell.


I ain't mad at ya Mark...
The operative in my statement is "IMO" (In MY opinion). I have nothing against other cans but i'm really looking at the specific ones I mentioned.
If you will read what I keep posting...

Does anyone have personal knowledge or experience with the two pair of headphones i'm asking about?
I am specifically looking at the...
PIONEER HDJ 2000
Informational link ...
pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com

BEATS BY DRE PRO
Informational link...
www.bestbuy.com

Click on link below for detailed pics of Beats Pro. (How they move/swing)
www.bestbuy.com
I am looking for the metal construction of these two sets of cans. I just want to know if one of them are better than the other and why.
I do not want the Beats Studio's. They are some B.S. (sorry if I offend anyone who owns em).
These are really the "only two sets i'm seriously considering". Nothing wrong with the other suggestions and thank you all for them, but the two i'm asking about are really the only two i'm interested in unless there are another pair of metal cans out there.
DjCity 10:43 AM - 10 March, 2011
I can see why the Senhieser HD 25-II wouldn't break. They look very flexable and do not have the infamous hinges that always break on other swivel headphones.
My concern with them is the cord.
It looks like if your not careful with them, you can easily pull the cord out of the headband.
I just don't understand how or why the cable is the way it is, routed through the headband.
It looks like a headphone that should have been connected to each can (one cord to each can) but they turned the cords upside down and stuffed it into a groove in the headband to have the cord on one side only.
That's my gripe with the Senhieser HD 25-II.


Does anyone have personal knowledge or experience with the two pair of headphones i'm asking about?

I am specifically looking at the...

PIONEER HDJ 2000
Informational link
pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com

BEATS BY DRE PRO
Informational link...
www.bestbuy.com

Click on link below for detailed pics of Beats Pro. (How they move/swing)
www.bestbuy.com

I am looking for the metal construction of these two sets of cans. I just want to know if one of them are better than the other and why.
I do not want the Beats Studio's. They are some B.S. (sorry if I offend anyone who owns em).
DJWALDO 10:44 AM - 10 March, 2011



Like I said HDJ 2000's break... They are not as "metal" as all the ads and info would lead you to believe, there's the proof. If you want something that does not break Pioneer is NOT it. These are 1 year old and I am in no which way shape or form hard on my gear. I am currently looking for a hard case to transport headphones in that does not require them to be folded in any way. My sony 700's lasted longer than the HDJ 2000's.... I am currently using Aerial 7's as an emergency replacement until I can decide on what I want to use on a more permanent basis.
DJJorel 11:27 AM - 10 March, 2011
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I can see why the Senhieser HD 25-II wouldn't break. They look very flexable and do not have the infamous hinges that always break on other swivel headphones.
My concern with them is the cord.
It looks like if your not careful with them, you can easily pull the cord out of the headband.
I just don't understand how or why the cable is the way it is, routed through the headband.
It looks like a headphone that should have been connected to each can (one cord to each can) but they turned the cords upside down and stuffed it into a groove in the headband to have the cord on one side only.
That's my gripe with the Senhieser HD 25-II.


The cord is in the headband, but it will not come out easily...it has never happened with mine. Like I said, I have had them for 6 years and I have never replaced or had to repair any part of them. Also, the cord is actually clamped down on the outside of right driver. The only way to remove the cord is by removing two screws...It's probably more secure than both the Beats Pro and the HDJ2000s...
DJ GaFFle 4:15 PM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:



Like I said HDJ 2000's break... They are not as "metal" as all the ads and info would lead you to believe, there's the proof. If you want something that does not break Pioneer is NOT it...

+1... them sh!tz iz plaztic! Like I said, they're light, look great, fit like a glove BUT they break. Proof is in his picture. Get the Beats Pro and look like a paid a mint for 'em when you really didn't @ $260. I wish I had that hookup.
DJ GaFFle 4:16 PM - 10 March, 2011
... look like you paid a mint...
SELECT 4:33 PM - 10 March, 2011
Those beats pro have a really good design, but I have no idea how they justify the 400.00 price tag. No way in hell I would ever pay that much, only if they were wireless and custom built like some in ear joints. Your not gonna DJ any better thats for sure.

Watchwww.youtube.com
ta2423 4:47 PM - 10 March, 2011
^had an itch to get them but price vs hype didnt rope me in. Drop them to 250 and I might buy a set. Happy with the Technics DH1200E-S for now.
for some reason dont even mind my 6 year old gc american audios that are still ticking for the full pop of 60$. Good for loaners when some of you dj's dont bring headphones to the venue. <-- Havent figured that one out yet.
ta2423 4:50 PM - 10 March, 2011
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^had an itch to get them but price vs hype didnt rope me in. Drop them to 250 and I might buy a set. Happy with the Technics DH1200E-S for now.
for some reason dont even mind my 6 year old gc american audios that are still ticking for the full pop of 60$. Good for loaners when some of you dj's dont bring headphones to the venue. <-- Havent figured that one out yet.

Then again maybe they are like thread starter and cant figure out which pair to buy.
Benefit of the doubt I guess.
SELECT 5:04 PM - 10 March, 2011
My Technics DH1200E-S broke on me. Sucked too cause they were fav headphones. No extras on the sound, very flat, great to mix with. The Technics RP-DJ1210E-S are way more durable. That ear cup swivel is the best design for DJ use.
ta2423 5:26 PM - 10 March, 2011
Yeah. I can tell they will break if I dont continue to give them special attention.
DJ GaFFle 5:32 PM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:
Those beats pro have a really good design, but I have no idea how they justify the 400.00 price tag. No way in hell I would ever pay that much, only if they were wireless and custom built like some in ear joints. Your not gonna DJ any better thats for sure.

Watchwww.youtube.com

Quote:
Those beats pro have a really good design, but I have no idea how they justify the 400.00 price tag. No way in hell I would ever pay that much, only if they were wireless and custom built like some in ear joints. Your not gonna DJ any better thats for sure.

Watchwww.youtube.com

Why do the other headphone designers justify making DJ headphones made of plastic with breaking hinges?
SELECT 5:44 PM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:
Quote:


Those beats pro have a really good design, but I have no idea how they justify the 400.00 price tag. No way in hell I would ever pay that much, only if they were wireless and custom built like some in ear joints. Your not gonna DJ any better thats for sure.

Watchwww.youtube.com

Quote:


Those beats pro have a really good design, but I have no idea how they justify the 400.00 price tag. No way in hell I would ever pay that much, only if they were wireless and custom built like some in ear joints. Your not gonna DJ any better thats for sure.

Watchwww.youtube.com

Why do the other headphone designers justify making DJ headphones made of plastic with breaking hinges?


Easy, more $$$, profit. I brought 2 pairs of sony MDR-V700 before I finally gave up on em. Same thing with 2 other people I know. Why sell a headphone that will last you forever. They want you to keep buying them after they break.
DJ Schematic 5:47 PM - 10 March, 2011
Dre Beats are advertised hard on American Idol. People wearing hats and headphones the whole time last night lol
SELECT 5:56 PM - 10 March, 2011
People who design headphones are definitely not working DJs.

The Beats pro headphones use that same swivel ear cup design, but its just a more fancy version.
ta2423 6:01 PM - 10 March, 2011
This gives a little tug to buy beats by dre.
www.colorwarepc.com
jbnyc 6:11 PM - 10 March, 2011
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Dre Beats are advertised hard on American Idol. People wearing hats and headphones the whole time last night lol



And on every other music video...
SELECT 6:47 PM - 10 March, 2011
I wonder if Dre even uses those headphones in the studio? Is it just a marketing ploy? They certainly got the best look of all of them, very modern and sleek.

Sony has to know their 700 DJ headphones break. I got my first pair in 2006 and a year later they were done. Thousands of other people with the same problem. Have they fixed it, no.
ta2423 6:52 PM - 10 March, 2011
^ whats even more ironic... My homeboy bragging about the new pc purchased with beats by dre speakers in it.
DjCity 10:09 PM - 10 March, 2011
Quote:
Those beats pro have a really good design, but I have no idea how they justify the 400.00 price tag. No way in hell I would ever pay that much, only if they were wireless and custom built like some in ear joints. Your not gonna DJ any better thats for sure.

Watchwww.youtube.com


I'm starting to lean toward the Beats PRO based on the video review and the fact that the construction of them makes them damn near bulletproof.
I've seen the broken Pioneer HDJ 2000's. (Boo)
The Senhieser HD 25-II seem really good but i'm not a fan of their appearance (personal preference). The Adidas series are cool but i'm still not quite sold.

Pioneer - $249 (they still break at hinge)
Beats Pro's - $260 (For Me...$399 for others)
Senhieser HD 25-II Adidas - $250

It's still a toss up.
dj red 10:46 PM - 10 March, 2011
I've had my pioneers since they dropped and have had zero problems with them they are the most durable and most comfortable set I've ever owned.
DjCity 10:48 PM - 10 March, 2011
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s1029.photobucket.com

hopefully that link works lol


Check this out about the pioneers ^^
dj red 10:53 PM - 10 March, 2011
How in the hell did he do that? Man I play 4-5 nights a week and travel and have never even come close to that. I have broken plenty of cans b4 especially at the hinge like on the sony's these are solid just make sure ur not buying knockoffs
SELECT 11:22 PM - 10 March, 2011
$260 is still outrageous for the beat pros, but Id definitely consider them at that price. The swivel arm design looks pretty solid on them.
jbnyc 12:00 AM - 11 March, 2011
What about the sleek by 50? Ive never heard them but i heard dre got mad hehe
DJJorel 6:15 AM - 11 March, 2011
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What about the sleek by 50? Ive never heard them but i heard dre got mad hehe


Doesn't Ludacris have a "premium" headphone also?
DJWALDO 9:59 AM - 11 March, 2011
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How in the hell did he do that? Man I play 4-5 nights a week and travel and have never even come close to that. I have broken plenty of cans b4 especially at the hinge like on the sony's these are solid just make sure ur not buying knockoffs



I don't know how it happened either... I still have all the original packaging I bought them about 90 days after they became available. Definitely not a knock off. I packed them up one night, put them in my bag, my bag ALWAYS gets laid flat in the car and at home. Never tossed around... pulled them out the very next night a voila! No bs. SUPER pissed about it. I'll never buy another set. I did however thoroughly enjoy them throughout the time I had them.
dj_soo 9:21 PM - 11 March, 2011
Sennheissers all the way. The best part is that every piece is replaceable too.

Beats By dre look like toys and the pioneer chrome is tacky as fuck.

I've had my hd25s for 6 years now and all I've had to do is replace the cable twice and the foam once.

Great sound and great isolation. It's not flashy but it's the epitome of pro gear.
CMOS 9:39 PM - 11 March, 2011
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Those beats pro have a really good design, but I have no idea how they justify the 400.00 price tag. No way in hell I would ever pay that much, only if they were wireless and custom built like some in ear joints. Your not gonna DJ any better thats for sure.

Watchwww.youtube.com Watchwww.youtube.com


I'm starting to lean toward the Beats PRO based on the video review and the fact that the construction of them makes them damn near bulletproof.
I've seen the broken Pioneer HDJ 2000's. (Boo)
The Senhieser HD 25-II seem really good but i'm not a fan of their appearance (personal preference). The Adidas series are cool but i'm still not quite sold.

Pioneer - $249 (they still break at hinge)
Beats Pro's - $260 (For Me...$399 for others)
Senhieser HD 25-II Adidas - $250

It's still a toss up.



After you break the Beat's and the Pioneers, get the HD25s, you wont care about looks after wasting 500 bucks on plastic crap.
jbnyc 9:40 PM - 11 March, 2011
its all about the looks baby!!! lol j/k
DjCity 9:49 PM - 11 March, 2011
The Beats PRO's are ALL METAL!!! I'm not talking about the cheap ass plastic studios. I can get the ALL METAL Beats PRO's for $260. If you don't know about them then look em up for yourself.
I could care less about a name but I DO CARE about construction and sound.

I am interested in METAL headphones. The Pioneer and the Beats PRO's are METAL!!!

Pioneer HDJ 2000 have metal hinge
Beats PRO's are ALL METAL

Do research before knocking something.
CMOS 10:21 PM - 11 March, 2011
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The Beats PRO's are ALL METAL!!! I'm not talking about the cheap ass plastic studios. I can get the ALL METAL Beats PRO's for $260. If you don't know about them then look em up for yourself.
I could care less about a name but I DO CARE about construction and sound.

I am interested in METAL headphones. The Pioneer and the Beats PRO's are METAL!!!

Pioneer HDJ 2000 have metal hinge
Beats PRO's are ALL METAL

Do research before knocking something.




Hahahah i just actually looked at them, they look MAD flimsy. Everytime u put them on or take them off you are straining that joint, it will eventually snap. Its just doesnt look tough to me.
DJ GaFFle 10:30 PM - 11 March, 2011
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The Beats PRO's are ALL METAL!!! I'm not talking about the cheap ass plastic studios. I can get the ALL METAL Beats PRO's for $260. If you don't know about them then look em up for yourself.
I could care less about a name but I DO CARE about construction and sound.

I am interested in METAL headphones. The Pioneer and the Beats PRO's are METAL!!!

Pioneer HDJ 2000 have metal hinge
Beats PRO's are ALL METAL

Do research before knocking something.




Hahahah i just actually looked at them, they look MAD flimsy..

Who is "them"... what are "they"?

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After you break the Beat's and the Pioneers, get the HD25s, you wont care about looks after wasting 500 bucks on plastic crap.

I'd venture to say that the Beats Pro are tougher than the HD25's. All metal dude... the HD25's have some seriously tough and robust plastic but they're not metal.
DjCity 10:32 PM - 11 March, 2011
@cmos. Ok. 100% aluminum headphones are mad flimsy. You clown on em before looking at them then look at them and come away wit mad flimsy. Dudes act a fool sometimes and speak what they know not.

Even people that don't like em because of the price, the sound or the beats name, nobody thinks the beats Pro's are flimsy.

The beats studios are flimsy and a joke but the Pro's are for real.
DJ GaFFle 10:38 PM - 11 March, 2011
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Beats By dre look like toys...

Not in my opinion. They're a little on the big side but they are kind of fly to me.

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and the pioneer chrome is tacky as fuck.

You must be talking about the shimmery HDJ1000's. The HDJ2000's are on point are far as looks, fit and feel.

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I've had my hd25s for 6 years now and all I've had to do is replace the cable twice and the foam once.

Great sound and great isolation. It's not flashy but it's the epitome of pro gear.

I have 'em too but they're not all that sexy. When I see the sports broadcasters wear them, the earcups always looks crooked on one ear and the cans look like two fat hockey pucks on the side of their heads. Yeah, HD25's are tough but the epitome of pro gear is a Technics 1200 turntable. IMO
ta2423 11:15 PM - 11 March, 2011
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@cmos. Ok. 100% aluminum headphones are mad flimsy. You clown on em before looking at them then look at them and come away wit mad flimsy. Dudes act a fool sometimes and speak what they know not.

Even people that don't like em because of the price, the sound or the beats name, nobody thinks the beats Pro's are flimsy.

The beats studios are flimsy and a joke but the Pro's are for real.


Dude Im curious... Why did you even start this thread if you already did your "homework" Without a doubt Dre's are overrated. Havent heard anybody talk about anything but if they break. What about performance drivers sound.
Have you tried them? Alot of songs sound harsh, walk with them on, they rattle.
Go to gc try the beats by dre then try the cheapest pair in comparison = overated.
The only reason I would buy a pair is for the look and you can color customize.
Who knows maybe that blonde over there is turned on by my black and flat gold dre's. I may buy a pair to get laid.
DjCity 11:30 PM - 11 March, 2011
It sounds like your talking about the beats Studios. I am talking about the Beats PRO's. GC does not have them in store. They don't have the Pioneer 2000's either.

I did my homework and this thread is part of that homework. The thread says...

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Does anyone have personal knowledge or experience with the two pair of headphones i'm asking about?
I am specifically looking at the...
PIONEER HDJ 2000
Informational link
pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com
BEATS BY DRE PRO
Informational link...
www.bestbuy.com
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You can't colorize the Beats Pro's.
Only the Beats Studio and Beats Solo can be colorized but Not the PRO's
G.C. does not carry either the beats pros or the Pioneer hdj 2000's in store.
I am looking for a direct comparison between the two.
No store seems to have both sets of cans. Thats why I started this thread.
DjCity 11:39 PM - 11 March, 2011
Correction....
Rock & Soul has both on site but I no longer live in NYC and 34th St. is kinda far from Washington D.C.

Chuck Levins (Washington Music Center) has the Pioneers but not the Beats Pro's.

Best Buy has the Beats Pro's but Best Buy does not have a pro system for me to properly demo them. Best Buy does not have the Pioneers.

Thats why I ask for anyone with personal knowledge or experience with THE TWO PAIR OF HEADPHONES THAT I AM ASKING ABOUT!!!

Not the Beats Studio's
Not the Beats Solo's
Not the Pioneer 1000's
Not the HD 25-II's

THE BEATS BY DRE PRO'S and the
PIONEER HDJ 2000's
DJ GaFFle 1:15 AM - 12 March, 2011
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Not the Beats Studio's
Not the Beats Solo's
Not the Pioneer 1000's
Not the HD 25-II's

THE BEATS BY DRE PRO'S and the
PIONEER HDJ 2000's

LOL.
DJJorel 6:07 AM - 12 March, 2011
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Best Buy has the Beats Pro's but Best Buy does not have a pro system for me to properly demo them. Best Buy does not have the Pioneers.


You're using Serato, right? You're just playing mostly MP3s anyways, right? Bring in your iPod, it'll be the same thing...

BTW, between the two, and I have tried both....I would pick the HDJ2000s. They're lighter (makes a big difference if you're spinning a 2 hour set), and they actually fit me a lot better than the Beats Pros. I like the the fact that you can swing the earcups, but the Pioneers are just more comfortable to wear. Sound difference and isolation performance between the two is negligible at best.

As for looks...the Beats Pro cans do look good, but less DJs would probably clown on you if you were rocking the HDJ2000s...

Personally, I use HD25s, and I have for six years. But I know you aren't even considering them...

BTW, has anybody tried the Shure SRH940s out?
DJ TOGTFO 10:13 AM - 12 March, 2011
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"EVERYTHING is a fashion statement... Equipment and Headphones included


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Sorry dude...I can't go out looking like a clown. I'm a professional DJ with professional equipment. You need to look the part as well as perform the part.


by far some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard on these forums, and then you compound it by considering the Beats headphones?

Watchwww.youtube.com
check his headphones @ 1:12
DJMark 10:28 AM - 12 March, 2011
Oh well, there's no way to transplant brain cells.
DjCity 10:31 AM - 12 March, 2011
What headphones do YOU use? Or are u just that nice that you don't need any?
Be constructive or be quiet.
I say that respectfully.

I want the best cans for ME. If you don't like em that's fine by me.
If the Pio's are best for me, great. If the beats are best for me, great. If some $5 koss are the best for me than so be it.

I'm looking for DIRECT COMPAIRSON between the two specific headphones I asked about.

That's all I asked about. Not weather you think my choice is a joke. To ME its serious. I want what I want and I want what works best for me, what is most comfortable for me, what I will like the best and what will last the longest in MY hands.
DJMark 10:36 AM - 12 March, 2011
Gimme!
DjCity 10:40 AM - 12 March, 2011
I'm thinking you dudes downing the beats pros have never handled them right?

Fucking morons.

The same kinda fools that used to say that your not a REAL dj unless you using records. That computer DJ'ing is a joke. Up until your dumbass tried it and saw for yourselves that Serato really is a good program and it is cool to bring a laptop to the club.

Fucking pretentious morons. I hope the word pretentious is not too big for your vocabulary. If it is I will explain it the next post
DJ TOGTFO 10:49 AM - 12 March, 2011
I have used both headphones

Beats by Dre suck ass, if you're gonna play video games on your laptop or listen to your iPod, they are great. FOr DJing, only a fool or noob would use those pieces of shit. Awful for 1 ear monitoring.

Pioneer HDJ 2000's, sounded great, but the fitment on my head was a turnoff. They feel too loose and kept falling off my head. I've never had that problem with any other headphone in my life

Sennheiser HD 25 and Unltrasone Pro DJ-1s are the best 2 headphones I have ever owned. I give the slight edge to the Sennheisers because they are lighter and smaller. Ultrasone is still a great headphone, and are designed specially to protect your hearing, but a little on the bulky/heavy side.
DJ TOGTFO 10:50 AM - 12 March, 2011
fuck yo couch.
DJMark 10:52 AM - 12 March, 2011
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Fucking pretentious morons.


I LOL at good irony.
DJMark 10:57 AM - 12 March, 2011
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Sennheiser HD 25 and Unltrasone Pro DJ-1s are the best 2 headphones I have ever owned. I give the slight edge to the Sennheisers because they are lighter and smaller. Ultrasone is still a great headphone, and are designed specially to protect your hearing, but a little on the bulky/heavy side.


The other issue (for me) with the Ultrasone's is that the "hinge" mechanisms reminded me too much of some other DJ headphones that proved to be way too breakable.

Seems like something on the magnitude of dropping a concrete block onto them would be needed to break the Sennheisers. And yes, the light weight is a real plus if you're using them for a long time.
DjCity 11:00 AM - 12 March, 2011
Thank you for being constructive. You are talking about the all metal, no battery beats PRO's right? If so, you have said what I wanted to hear. I don't give a flying shit about the name braand. I just want the best for me. I have handled the beaast but never heard them. I have owned Pio 1000's but never handled the 2000's.

I just want people with experience with these headphones to weigh in. Not the bullshiters who never touched em or think I'm talking about those cheap ass plastic battery using beats studios.
DJ TOGTFO 11:10 AM - 12 March, 2011
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Thank you for being constructive. You are talking about the all metal, no battery beats PRO's right? If so, you have said what I wanted to hear.


yes. They added those ridiculous swivels to both sides on the Beats 2 bc DJs were probably bitching so much about it on the original Beats by Dre headphones. But those dumb fucks at Monster added the swivels to both sides of the headphones instead of just one side. Makes for very awkward 1 ear monitoring.
DJ GaFFle 1:47 PM - 12 March, 2011
Solid gold bytche$: cgi.ebay.com

LOLOL!
DJ JuVi 4:07 PM - 12 March, 2011
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wasn't impressed with the dre's hdj 2000 are ok sennheiser hd25s are the shizzle ;) and as you are prone to breaking headphones all parts are raplaceable nd easy to change

oh and nothing comes close for sound isolation with the hd25's


+1, no doubt.

Sound quality, spare parts, sound isolation - you can't get any better than the HD 25's.

Both Dre & the 2000's are trendy over-priced headphones.

The beats' headphone especially are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too heavy. Unbelievable.

When it comes to the original question, if u really have to, go with the 2000's.
Devilboy4u247 1:52 AM - 25 March, 2011
If those are your options get the Beats Pro wont Break like the Pioneers after 1 year of use.
dj_soo 3:46 AM - 25 March, 2011
how do you know that? Didn't the beats pro just come out last june? They've hardly been time tested at all like the hd25s...
DJ GaFFle 10:10 AM - 25 March, 2011
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how do you know that? Didn't the beats pro just come out last june? They've hardly been time tested at all like the hd25s...

All metal... where are the gonna break at? No breaking, stress-point plastic hinges like errbody else.
Billy18bm 3:57 PM - 25 March, 2011
i swear by the technics 1200 headphones durability. I accidently step on em all the time and they don't break. My boy has broken 3 pairs hdj's he finally switched and he hasn't been able to break the techs yet. lol
Billy18bm 3:58 PM - 25 March, 2011
im refering to the hdj 1000's..
Billy18bm 3:58 PM - 25 March, 2011
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Personally I like my technics... More in part of brand name matching. They do the job but in the same situation... Paid dough for a name.


they aren't as comfortable as the pioneers, but they are durable.
jbnyc 4:11 PM - 25 March, 2011
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im refering to the hdj 1000's..


+1 3 years of abuse and no problems so far...
dj_soo 6:48 PM - 25 March, 2011
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how do you know that? Didn't the beats pro just come out last june? They've hardly been time tested at all like the hd25s...

All metal... where are the gonna break at? No breaking, stress-point plastic hinges like errbody else.


Still doesn't mean it's time tested. TTXs looked like they were built like tanks as well and were failing all over the place within a year or two.
DJJorel 9:38 PM - 25 March, 2011
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All metal... where are the gonna break at? No breaking, stress-point plastic hinges like errbody else.


All metal doesn't necessarily mean more durable. HD25s, as ugly as they are, have almost no metal, but they are, by far, the most durable headphones for DJing out there...
DJ GaFFle 10:59 PM - 25 March, 2011
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All metal... where are the gonna break at? No breaking, stress-point plastic hinges like errbody else.


All metal doesn't necessarily mean more durable. HD25s, as ugly as they are, have almost no metal, but they are, by far, the most durable headphones for DJing out there...

I'll buy that but I'd take my chances on the manufacturer who broke the cookie-cutter mold of making their 'DJ' headphones of all metal instead of plastic.
DJJorel 9:08 AM - 26 March, 2011
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I'll buy that but I'd take my chances on the manufacturer who broke the cookie-cutter mold of making their 'DJ' headphones of all metal instead of plastic.


True. IMHO, DJ headphones should have a good balance of comfort and durability (along with being great sounding). Also, these characteristics will be different for each individual. For me, the HD25s are the perfect mix of comfort and durability. I actually don't doubt that the Beats Pros are really durable, but they don't score high on me in terms of comfort. They are just too heavy...they might feel comfortable when you first put them on, but after a while, they might just start feeling a little heavier.

I do mobiles also, and sometimes I have to wear the headphones for a a few hours (sometimes more). The HD25s really don't feel like you are wearing a set of headphones...they weigh about as much as some hats. That is part of what sold me on them. Sports commentators wear them for possibly hours...so their headphones have to be comfortable.
DJ GaFFle 12:21 AM - 27 March, 2011
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... Sports commentators wear them for possibly hours...so their headphones have to be comfortable.

+1
DjCity 2:33 AM - 31 March, 2011
I finally got to hear and handle the Beats Pros in a work environment. They ARE HEAVY as hell. They don't seem that heavy @ Best Buy but at a club... HEAAAAAAVY.

The sound is not stellar. Don't get me wrong, they do sound good but not worth the money. Not even at the discount I could get them at. They are built like a armored tank tho, I can safely say they won't break. I could hurl them hard against the wall and they would just shrug it off and keep it movin. Really exceptional build quality. THEY WILL NOT BREAK!!! but they are not comfortable at all and the sound is just not good enough.

Compared to my Denon HP 1000's they sound louder, brighter, richer and deeper but not necessarily better. It's hard to explain but thats how I can describe them in comparison to the Denon's. I guess they sound colored, a trick to make your ears think they sound better than they really do.

I hope to test out the Pioneers in a club setting soon. I also want to test the HD 25's which are now solidly on my "check em out" list. I'm trying to get past their looks. (Personal preference thing) They really are unattractive cans.

Thanks for the input everyone, I'm still up for suggestions and opinions.
latindj 4:39 AM - 31 March, 2011
wow, does it normally take you this long to make decisions? you aren't by any chance related to djpuma? LOL

here's the deal. I've had my pio hdj1000's for almost 6 years now. they are finally ready for replacement, still usable, but ready for replacement. probably gonna purchase the 2000's next...I mean hell, if they 1000's can last 6 years, then the 2000's should make it to 10 for me.

bottom line, if you're rough with your gear you will get less mileage out of it. and I don't believe the dude who said his hdj2000's "mysteriously" broke overnight in his backpack...funny stuff but something he's not aware of happened to cause them to break.

personally, I know several dj's with the 2000's that rock them regularly and swear by them for their comfort, sound and durability. just buy from a reputable shop and I'm sure you'll have no problem exchanging for something else if they don't seem to work for you...
Trinicapone 5:49 AM - 31 March, 2011
Waiting for my hdj-2000 today! All I will say is I had my hdj-1000 for a yr one side broke at the joint fixed them and then in the middle of a party the other side broke now both sides are broken. I was pissed but I got over pioneer pooooor customer service but I was the stupid one for not registering my product. But anyway Dr. Dre headphones are tight but I cannot see me spending that much for headphones. We have all fell into being gear money sucking junkies for equipment 10 years ago we would never consider. At the end of the day its just headphones. But thats just me and my thoughts.
DJJorel 7:22 AM - 31 March, 2011
Since this thread started, I actually received the AIAIAI TMA-1s as a gift. I must say, I am very impressed. I haven't taken them out to a gig yet, but that will change this weekend. Also, they look great in a minimalistic sort of way. They are definitely not flashy, but they are very distinctive. The TMA-1s sound a little punchier than my HD25s. In terms of comfort, it's a total toss up, but the TMA-1s do look a lot better. Then again, looks are not really a concern of mine.

Also, Skratchworx posted a review of the Beyerdynamic DT1350 DJ headphones. Apparently, they are really impressive. And that site has reviewed every headphone mentioned in this thread, except for the Beats Pros. You might want to check those out...
DJWALDO 7:31 AM - 31 March, 2011
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and I don't believe the dude who said his hdj2000's "mysteriously" broke overnight in his backpack...funny stuff but something he's not aware of happened to cause them to break.


I would really love to know what happened to my bag that I am not aware of. You have noooo idea how meticulous I am with my gear. They broke inside the bag they come with. What this tells me is simply this... even the "durable" headphones are prone to breaking at the hinge when folded and placed in some bullshit bag the headphones get shipped with. Folding them is adding stress. I no longer carry headphones in a bag. They are now in a hard case that does not require folding.
latindj 4:51 PM - 31 March, 2011
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and I don't believe the dude who said his hdj2000's "mysteriously" broke overnight in his backpack...funny stuff but something he's not aware of happened to cause them to break.


I would really love to know what happened to my bag that I am not aware of. You have noooo idea how meticulous I am with my gear. They broke inside the bag they come with. What this tells me is simply this... even the "durable" headphones are prone to breaking at the hinge when folded and placed in some bullshit bag the headphones get shipped with. Folding them is adding stress. I no longer carry headphones in a bag. They are now in a hard case that does not require folding.


cool. I understand what you are saying, but somewhere during the course of your evening someone or something must have stepped on, fell on or something. regardless, the hard case is a good idea.
DJWALDO 9:31 PM - 31 March, 2011
That's the part I don't get... this night there was no gear in the car as I play the same venue Fri. and Sat in different rooms... the backpack itself lies flat on the floor then straight into the house and onto a desk in my bedroom. I'm extremely easy on my gear and very disappointed that they broke. I did really enjoy them.
DjCity 10:36 AM - 1 April, 2011
O.k.
Sennheiser Hd25
AIAIAI TMA - 1
Beyerdynamic DT1350

I guess my tastes are changing and you guys have pretty much convinced me.

Which of the three would be the best and WHY? PLEASE...If at all possible, give me real "FROM EXPERIENCE" viewpoints and not wild, uneducated, unexperienced guesses.

Sennheiser HD25...........Will the cable come out of the headband? it looks like it can.
AIAIAI TMA - 1...............Anyone ever USE them? How do they compare to the HD25's?
Beyerdynamic DT1350....Anyone ever USE them? Are they worth the hefty price tag?

Pio's are not out of the equation yet but they now have serious competition from the cans above.
Dubplate10" 12:41 PM - 1 April, 2011
Had my Technic DJ1200's nearly 11 years now - no problems. If they broke tomorrow I would go and buy another pair without question.

The key is looking after your equipment :)
dj_soo 7:04 PM - 1 April, 2011
what do you mean by "come out" of the headband? If you mean will it accidentally come out? probably not unless it gets yanked and even then, it'll probably just be slightly out of position and it's super easy to put back in place.

Biggest con about the hd25 is the cable is really short compared to most headphones - you can get a coiled cord replacement for it but i think the coiled cord is really badly designed and ends up being way too long...

what's nice about the senns is that every single part is replaceable so if anything goes, you don't have to replace the whole set - just whatever piece is broken and/or worn out.

As mentioned, my HD25s are at least 5 years old and the only thing i've replaced are the ear pads and the cable - although I think i might be needing a new frame soon...

also, get the velour earpads - way more sturdy and way more comfortable...
DJ GaFFle 7:55 PM - 1 April, 2011
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what do you mean by "come out" of the headband? If you mean will it accidentally come out? probably not unless it gets yanked and even then, it'll probably just be slightly out of position and it's super easy to put back in place.

Biggest con about the hd25 is the cable is really short compared to most headphones - you can get a coiled cord replacement for it but i think the coiled cord is really badly designed and ends up being way too long...

what's nice about the senns is that every single part is replaceable so if anything goes, you don't have to replace the whole set - just whatever piece is broken and/or worn out.

As mentioned, my HD25s are at least 5 years old and the only thing i've replaced are the ear pads and the cable - although I think i might be needing a new frame soon...

also, get the velour earpads - way more sturdy and way more comfortable...

I haven't use my Senn's since I bought them because of the lack of a coil cord. I just ordered the 'curly' cord with red velour padding so I'm gonna put them back in service soon.

If you buy the Senn HD25s, get the 'C' model... that's the one with the curly cord.
DJJorel 7:58 PM - 1 April, 2011
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AIAIAI TMA - 1...............Anyone ever USE them? How do they compare to the HD25's?


I can give a head to head on these.

HD25 - I've been using these for six years. They are the most durable headphones I have used. The cable is short, but I have had zero problems with the wire coming out of the headband. They have the best isolation and are the most comfortable cans when compared to any other that I have used. They are more than loud enough and clear at the same time.

TMA-1 - I got these as a gift and I used them at a gig last night. They are just as comfortable and light as the HD25 headphones. The cups don't swing, but the headband is flexible enough to easily move the cup for one-sided cueing. The coiled cord is also a big plus. They put out a little more bass than the HD25s, but it seems that the difference in sound between the two is a matter of personal preference.

Headphones are really a matter of personal preference. I think all of the headphones you have mentioned are great for DJing, so if I had to make a decision, it would probably be due to comfort and aesthetics. That being said, if I didn't own any of these headphones, I would probably be looking at the TMA-1, only because they are comfortable and they look a little better that the HD25s. The Pioneers are more flashy looking, but I am not really into things that are really flashy.

I got my HD25s when EVERY other headphone on the market had breakage problems, but I really do like them and I haven't looked back. But, the Beyerdynamics look hella pimp, and you would be one of the first ones to have them....
DJ GaFFle 10:23 PM - 1 April, 2011
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what do you mean by "come out" of the headband? If you mean will it accidentally come out? probably not unless it gets yanked and even then, it'll probably just be slightly out of position and it's super easy to put back in place.

Biggest con about the hd25 is the cable is really short compared to most headphones - you can get a coiled cord replacement for it but i think the coiled cord is really badly designed and ends up being way too long...

what's nice about the senns is that every single part is replaceable so if anything goes, you don't have to replace the whole set - just whatever piece is broken and/or worn out.

As mentioned, my HD25s are at least 5 years old and the only thing i've replaced are the ear pads and the cable - although I think i might be needing a new frame soon...

also, get the velour earpads - way more sturdy and way more comfortable...

I haven't use my Senn's since I bought them because of the lack of a coil cord. I just ordered the 'curly' cord with red velour padding so I'm gonna put them back in service soon.

If you buy the Senn HD25s, get the 'C' model... that's the one with the curly cord.

Hot damn... speak of the devil. I just received the coil cord from Fedex (it actually came yesterday but I missed the shipment). I just attached the coil cord and red pads to pimp my Senn HD25's out.

To DJCity... NO, the connection is very, Very tight going into the earcups. There actually a little overhang of the earpad cover elastic band which all the more grips the connection peace. I had to wiggle out the very secure connection as it doesn't come out too easily. I'm gonna get re-acquainted with these Senns at my gig tonight.
DJ GaFFle 10:24 PM - 1 April, 2011
There's actually...
DJJorel 10:58 PM - 1 April, 2011
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Hot damn... speak of the devil. I just received the coil cord from Fedex (it actually came yesterday but I missed the shipment). I just attached the coil cord and red pads to pimp my Senn HD25's out.


Where did you order the colored earpads from?
DJ GaFFle 11:19 PM - 1 April, 2011
www.juno.co.uk Earpads

www.juno.co.uk Coiled cord (be careful not to get non-Sennheiser brand imitations. Their cables have lower sound quality and will ruin the great sound of your headphones). The real Sennheiser model # is 523877.
DJ GaFFle 11:20 PM - 1 April, 2011
I swear I got that order in like 3 days when I chose the $9 Royal Air option.
DJJorel 11:24 PM - 1 April, 2011
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www.juno.co.uk Coiled cord (be careful not to get non-Sennheiser brand imitations. Their cables have lower sound quality and will ruin the great sound of your headphones). The real Sennheiser model # is 523877.


What is dope is that I just called Sennheiser USA and ordered the coiled cord directly from them (I just gave them the part number). Apparently they get a few in from time to time from Sennheiser Europe...

But, I will be ordering some Earpads shortly...
Trinicapone 10:56 PM - 2 April, 2011
For what its worth I broke my pios hdj 1000 and got me the 2000's from americanmusical.com and i'm happy
DJ Half 11:24 PM - 2 April, 2011
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and I don't believe the dude who said his hdj2000's "mysteriously" broke overnight in his backpack...funny stuff but something he's not aware of happened to cause them to break.


I would really love to know what happened to my bag that I am not aware of. You have noooo idea how meticulous I am with my gear. They broke inside the bag they come with. What this tells me is simply this... even the "durable" headphones are prone to breaking at the hinge when folded and placed in some bullshit bag the headphones get shipped with. Folding them is adding stress. I no longer carry headphones in a bag. They are now in a hard case that does not require folding.


Did the tire marks not show up on the bag?

"how meticulous I am with my gear" & "even the "durable" headphones are prone to breaking at the hinge when folded and placed in some bullshit bag the headphones get shipped with". (latindj) How meticulous are you?

J/k man, had to get you on this. Sorry to hear about your headphones, that would suck for me as well.

If I bought the Beats By Dre Studios, it's because I support Dre. He's my Producer Hero! I already have Beats By Dre SoloHDs, I go to the gym with them and use it on my mac as well. I love them! If the Studios gonna be heavy on my head, then I'll just work on my Neck muscles so that I can withstand the weight.
DjCity 12:53 AM - 3 April, 2011
Craziest thing happened today. I went to Chuck Levins (Washington Music Center) and had an opportunity to do a SIDE BY SIDE BY SIDE DIRECT COMPARISON of the Sennheiser HD 25's against the Pioneer HDJ 2000's vs beats By Dre Pro's. here is my in depth summary of all three cans...

Sennheiser HD 25.....
Excellent isolation and excellent sound. They press on the ears rather tightly but not uncomfortably so. I was quite impressed with the sound quality. Very impressed is more like it. They really sound amazing especially for such a small can.
I was not impressed with the build or the design. I'm not talking about sex appeal but the actual design of the headphone. I did not like that the cable is run through a groove in the headband. Too easy to be pulled out. I did not like the exposed cable around the can itself. Again, too easy to be pulled or to get caught in something. I see the weak spot in their design. The can itself has a little swivel room and thats a good thing but it can snap the arm or the bracket holding the can to the arm. I also found them to be kinds flimsy feeling. Too many things moving around between the swing of the arm, the swing of the headbands and the exposed cable.


Pioneer HDJ 2000's...
The worst sounding of the three. By themselves they sound good but in comparison, they do not even come close to the Sennheiser's or the Beats By Dre Pro's.
The design is very good though. Isolation is good but not as good as either of the other two headphones As far as durability, they seem durable enough but the headband is made of plastic and prone to breakage. The swivel has the very nice touch of snapping back into position but it's the actual swivel that concerns me. Although it is made of alloy, it still has many parts held together with screws. screws do come loose after a time and I can see test headphones going the same was as the 1000's. They are more durable than most headphones out there but not as durable as pioneer would have you believe.


Beats By Dre Pro's...
Best isolation of the three tested. I was VERY surprised to find the Beat's Pro's to have the best sound of the three as well (To MY ear). They are very bass heavy though and I can see some people not liking that amount of bass. When I tried the Beats Pro's in a club atmosphere, I was unimpressed at that time. I later found out that the mixers headphone output had "issues". I did not do a side by side comparison that night but today's testing has changed my mind on the Beats Pro's.
My opinion about the construction remains the same. BUILT LIKE A TANK!!!!! I don't think the Beats Pro's will ever break. They could get run over by a car and survive.
I do not like that the can itself does not swivel left to right in place. They are fixed in place. The swinging arms are just o.k. not great, not bad, just o.k. They are useful but the downside of them is that the can itself has no side to side wiggle so swinging the arm up takes the other can slightly off the ear. There really is no "cueing out one side from your shoulder with the Beats Pros again due to the lack of side to side wiggle. The Senns and the Beats were somewhat close in sound quality but for my ear and style of music, The beats by Dre Pro's edge out over the Sennheiser HD 25's


Well, thats my direct comparison of the three headphones. I was able to use and test all three headphones. I was able to test them on various mixers and with various music all with the same results.

Best...
Beats By Dre Pro's

Second best...
Sennheiser HD 25's

Last place...
Pioneer HDJ 2000's

I am now VERY interested in thhe AIAIAI TMA - 1's
from what I have read about them they have a little more bass than the Sennheiser HD 25's and do not have the weaknesses the Sennheiser HD 25's have. Unfortunately, The only way I have to test these out is to purchase them so again....
if anyone has EXPERIENCE with the AIAIAI TMA 1's please post about them. If anyone has done a side by side comparison of the Sennheiser HD 25's vs the AIAIAI TMA 1's...please post your findings.
dj_soo 1:04 AM - 3 April, 2011
HD25s are near indestuctible.

They don't look it and actually look pretty flimsy on first inspection but they are strudy as all hell. I always laugh at my buds who go through a pair of cans every year or two who passed on the HD25s cause they "looked flimsy" and yet here I an using the same pair of headphones for the last 6 years. I am also not meticulous at all with em. They get wound up and tossed in my bag with no padding, extra bags or anything.

In fact, I treat them like shit for the most part - have dropped them god knows how many times but like I said - same pair for 6 years. Only thing I've replaced is the earpads and the cable.

And no - you can't snap the ear thing unless you're *really* purposely trying to do it. and I've never had the cable "pull out" or snag on anything. Sometimes you may have to re-adjust, but trust me - these things do. not. break. And the best part is, even in the unlikely event that it does break, you just replace the part - not the whole set.
dj_soo 7:58 AM - 3 April, 2011
might want to look at these:

skratchworx.com

beyerdynamic is another audiophile headphone company (like sennheiser) that makes amazing studio and audiophile cans - the review looks good...
CMOS 4:21 AM - 4 April, 2011
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HD25s are near indestuctible.

They don't look it and actually look pretty flimsy on first inspection but they are strudy as all hell. I always laugh at my buds who go through a pair of cans every year or two who passed on the HD25s cause they "looked flimsy" and yet here I an using the same pair of headphones for the last 6 years. I am also not meticulous at all with em. They get wound up and tossed in my bag with no padding, extra bags or anything.

In fact, I treat them like shit for the most part - have dropped them god knows how many times but like I said - same pair for 6 years. Only thing I've replaced is the earpads and the cable.

And no - you can't snap the ear thing unless you're *really* purposely trying to do it. and I've never had the cable "pull out" or snag on anything. Sometimes you may have to re-adjust, but trust me - these things do. not. break. And the best part is, even in the unlikely event that it does break, you just replace the part - not the whole set.


+1 i beat the shit out of my HD25s on a daily basis.

My thing is that if they do break i can get parts easily. Hell there are even companies making aftermarket custom parts for them. Im pretty sure i read on skratchworx that either the AIAIs or the Berodynamic dont have user replaceable earcups.

IMO the AIAIs are Sennheiser clones, and the berodynamics are too expensive to be only a little bit better.
DjCity 10:03 AM - 4 April, 2011
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HD25s are near indestuctible.

Sometimes you may have to re-adjust, but trust me - these things do. not. break. And the best part is, even in the unlikely event that it does break, you just replace the part - not the whole set.


+1 i beat the shit out of my HD25s on a daily basis.

the AIAIs or the Berodynamic dont have user replaceable earcups.

IMO the AIAIs are Sennheiser clones, and the berodynamics are too expensive to be only a little bit better.


+1 about the Beyerdynamics

The AiAiAi's do have replaceable parts tho. Padding and the can itself can be replaced. No doubt they borrowed from Sennheiser design but they did a DAMN good job of it.
I want to compare the two head to head.

I hear everyone that says the Sennheiser's are just about unbreakable and I don't doubt you. I am not a fan of the exposed wires and I did not like how the felt in my hands. On my head they felt fine but in my hands...Not so much.

I come from a background of Sony 700's, Pioneer 1000's, Denon 1000's and Technics headphones. Understand that from them to the Sennheiser's is a VERY big difference in style and feel.
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the exposed wires and i'm having a hard time accepting that.
For me personally, if the AiAiAi's as good or better than the Sennheiser, they would be a more mentally comfortable alternative.

I'm still in amazement about the Beats Pro's though. If you ever get the chance to check em out (NOT AT A BEST BUY STORE!!!) you might be amazed too. They are heavy as hell but damnit if they don't sound great and damnit if they ain't just about indestructible. Just wish they did not have that giant "b" on em and the stupid "Beats by Dre" across the headband.
DJJorel 12:06 PM - 4 April, 2011
I know it's probably a matter of opinion, but to me, the HD25s and the TMA-1s sound better that the Beats Pros. Actually, in terms of sound quality, the Beats Pros come in last after the TMA-1, HD25, and the HDJ2000.

But by any means, it does seem that you have your heart set on the Beats Pros. Go ahead and get them, they are what seems to work for you. A good friend of mine DJs all over the world and makes his living DJing, and he will not DJ with anything but Sony MDR-V6 cans. Headphones are the most personal thing for DJs, so if the Beats work for you, then get them.

Asking DJs what headphones to get is like asking the IT guy what laptop to get. You'll just hear a bunch of different answers and it'll just delay your purchase even longer...
DJ GaFFle 1:30 PM - 4 April, 2011
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HD25s are near indestuctible.

They don't look it and actually look pretty flimsy on first inspection but they are strudy as all hell. I always laugh at my buds who go through a pair of cans every year or two who passed on the HD25s cause they "looked flimsy" and yet here I an using the same pair of headphones for the last 6 years. I am also not meticulous at all with em. They get wound up and tossed in my bag with no padding, extra bags or anything.

In fact, I treat them like shit for the most part - have dropped them god knows how many times but like I said - same pair for 6 years. Only thing I've replaced is the earpads and the cable.

And no - you can't snap the ear thing unless you're *really* purposely trying to do it. and I've never had the cable "pull out" or snag on anything. Sometimes you may have to re-adjust, but trust me - these things do. not. break. And the best part is, even in the unlikely event that it does break, you just replace the part - not the whole set.


+1 i beat the shit out of my HD25s on a daily basis.
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IMO the AIAIs are Sennheiser clones, and the berodynamics are too expensive to be only a little bit better.

Who says they're "a little bit better"? ... and that would be one person's opinion, not fact. I watch sports broadcasts all the time and I don't see them wearing AIAIAI's or Beyers... they've got the Sennheisers on. Yes, they're a modified/upgraded version of the HD25's but they're still Sennheisers and essentially the same.
DjCity 1:44 PM - 4 April, 2011
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Asking DJs what headphones to get is like asking the IT guy what laptop to get. You'll just hear a bunch of different answers and it'll just delay your purchase even longer...


Agreed!

Headphones and Mixer are the two most personal components of a DJ.

I had crossed the Beats off my list but the direct comparison put them solidly back on that list.

I may just go ahead and get both the beats and the AiAiAi's. I have not made up my mind yet. I still have my denon's (Glued and duck-taped up) and my Sony 700's (Glued up only) so it's not a real big rush. I just wanted the honest opinion of my fellow DJ's on their choice of phones and why they choose them.

I am a Hip Hop, R&B Reggae DJ. I am primarily a club DJ. For me, to my ear, the beats sounded best for what I do. I have not heard the AiAiAi's yet but look forward to hearing them.

I thank everyone for their input and I know this thread will continue to receive input.
CMOS 1:53 AM - 5 April, 2011
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IMO the AIAIs are Sennheiser clones, and the berodynamics are too expensive to be only a little bit better.

Who says they're "a little bit better"? ... and that would be one person's opinion, not fact. I watch sports broadcasts all the time and I don't see them wearing AIAIAI's or Beyers... they've got the Sennheisers on. Yes, they're a modified/upgraded version of the HD25's but they're still Sennheisers and essentially the same.


Just going by what i read on skratchworx, gizmo hasnt let me down yet, i trust his reviews.


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Those AIAIAIs have exposed wires as well no? The pics show the same wire (different a lil bit) plugging into each ear cup. Am i missing something?
DjCity 2:15 AM - 5 April, 2011
The wires are covered by the rubber band under the headband. One wire in, up through the headband then down to the other can but not exposed on the outside of the headphone and not running exposed through a groove in the headband.

Still exposed but nowhere as much as the HD 25's.

Another DJ posted this on a different forum...

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I have both the HD-25 and DJM-2000

I prefer to use the Pioneer for my gigs as they are more robust. The sound is not perfect but when used in a club with a powerful system it doesn't matter too much. Bear in mind these "DJ" headphones are not meant to be audiophile quality.

The HD-25 sound great but the build quality is poor for the money. The ones originally made in Ireland were great but since manufacturing moved to China they've been terrible.

I gave my first pair I had used for 6 years to my son & bought a new pair to DJ with. The build quality of the new ones is nowhere near as good as the original ones.

I ended up binning the new ones as the pins that plug in to the cans kept disconnecting and cutting the music off and they literally fell apart.

He still uses the original pair all the time (they are now 10 years old) and I have the Pioneers.

jbnyc 3:44 AM - 5 April, 2011
did you buy a pair of headphones already?? damn i would hate to see this guy buying a house!!! lol
latindj 4:09 AM - 5 April, 2011
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did you buy a pair of headphones already?? damn i would hate to see this guy buying a house!!! lol


LOL! I told ya...puma jr.

LMAO!
DjCity 5:36 PM - 5 April, 2011
Whats the deal with DJ Puma??? Whats his story?
DJ GaFFle 7:03 PM - 5 April, 2011
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I know I have the Ireland ones (it says it on the headband) but is it true that the newer HD25's are made in China? If so, I'll never recommend them again... ever.
jbnyc 8:08 PM - 5 April, 2011
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Whats the deal with DJ Puma??? Whats his story?


+1 i didnt get that joke neither lol
latindj 8:16 PM - 5 April, 2011
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Whats the deal with DJ Puma??? Whats his story?


+1 i didnt get that joke neither lol


ha ha! inside joke, those that know...well, know....
jbnyc 8:32 PM - 5 April, 2011
ooooookkkkk............
CMOS 8:46 PM - 5 April, 2011
This thread has gone on so long i kinda hope whatever he buys breaks in a week.
dj_soo 8:52 PM - 5 April, 2011
lol
jbnyc 11:27 PM - 5 April, 2011
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This thread has gone on so long i kinda hope whatever he buys breaks in a week.

lol
DjCity 12:22 AM - 6 April, 2011
Damn thats a fucked up attitude...
Believe me..... Whatever I get and i'm gonna wind up getting both the beats pro'sand the aiaiai's,

They won't break!!!
latindj 12:48 AM - 6 April, 2011
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Damn thats a fucked up attitude...
Believe me..... Whatever I get and i'm gonna wind up getting both the beats pro'sand the aiaiai's,

They won't break!!!


nothing breaks in the virtual world....lmao! Just busting your undecisive balls....

NH, NM
DjCity 1:03 AM - 6 April, 2011
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nothing breaks in the virtual world....lmao! Just busting your undecisive balls....

NH, NM

lol
I hear ya dude.
I'm not in a rush. Just trying to find out as much as I can in advance and give others the same info i'm getting.

I KNOW this thread will help others.
DJ GaFFle 1:07 AM - 6 April, 2011
This thread has jump the shark at this point. Nothing else to find out. Go ahead and get your choice and report back. We'll be here...
DJJorel 3:02 AM - 6 April, 2011
Just get these...these look indestructable!
fc09.deviantart.net
jbnyc 3:12 AM - 6 April, 2011
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Just get these...these look indestructable!
fc09.deviantart.net


LMFAO
closwebos 4:24 AM - 6 April, 2011
Getting back on track I have always loved the technic’s dh 1200 head phones all around but hinges are crap! Pioneer HDJ 1000 not only sound like shit but hinges are even worse! Now i recently got a pair of the Pioneer HDJ 200O and they are sweet! I am gonna check out the HD 25’S as a back up set. Beats by Dre are some bullshit advertisement gimmick period!
Trinicapone 4:25 AM - 6 April, 2011
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Just get these...these look indestructable!
fc09.deviantart.net


LMFAO

+100000
Trinicapone 4:27 AM - 6 April, 2011
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Getting back on track I have always loved the technic’s dh 1200 head phones all around but hinges are crap! Pioneer HDJ 1000 not only sound like shit but hinges are even worse! Now i recently got a pair of the Pioneer HDJ 200O and they are sweet! I am gonna check out the HD 25’S as a back up set. Beats by Dre are some bullshit advertisement gimmick period!


For real! I did the same thing but I didn't and wont get the hd 25
DjCity 10:52 PM - 6 April, 2011
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Beats by Dre are some bullshit advertisement gimmick period!


I thought the same thing until I tested them. Beats by Dre are some bullshit up until yoy get into the Pro's. I was really suprised to find the Beats by Dre Pro headphones to be a for real no joke no bullshit professional grade headphone.

Its funny, people think of the studios when you mention Beats by Dre. People don't think of or don't know about the Pro's. People have had a bullshit experience with the studios and shit on the Pro's off G.P. I was like that till I picked a pair up. They are for real.

DjCity 2:22 AM - 7 April, 2011
Let me clarify....

Beats by Dre solo.............BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beats by Dre Studio.........Battery powered BULLSHIT!!!!

Beats by Dre Pro.............Good ass headphones!!!!!!!!!!!
No joke. They really are like that.
Great isolation, Great sound,
Great build quality.
Heavy as hell and expensive
but when you can get them at 1/2 price.....
DJ Ness Nice 2:33 AM - 7 April, 2011
allen and heath xone 53.. there $200 but they also have the xone 40 that are $100, dont kno how the 40s are, but i can vogue for the 53s all day..

youtu.be
MelonHead 3:57 PM - 7 April, 2011
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I bought mine for half and will be getting them tomorrow... love that GC Pro Coverage Plan!
DjCity 4:00 PM - 7 April, 2011
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but when you can get them at 1/2 price.....


I bought mine for half and will be getting them tomorrow... love that GC Pro Coverage Plan!

You got em from G.C at half price?!? How did u manage to pull that off?
MelonHead 4:08 PM - 7 April, 2011
hmmm.. dats classified... j/k..

my girl bought me a set of Ultrasone DJ1 last year.. she also got the Pro Plan Coverage to go with it for 2 years. My DJ1's acted up so went and sent them back and GC hooked me up with a reimbursement card for the exact amount of the DJ1 and I simply paid the difference for the BBD Pro's.

ain't gonna lie... I'm a little excited about some damn headphones :)
DjCity 4:11 PM - 7 April, 2011
Not a bad way to get some phones.

Like I said, the beats by dre pro's are for real. I guess the rest of the community will find out in time.
MelonHead 4:12 PM - 7 April, 2011
indeed... and if you guys want to check them out, got to you local Best Buy store, they should have at least one on display and plugged up for demo. Stop by on the way home from work.
Vanish 4:20 PM - 7 April, 2011
I just recently bought my HDJ-2000's and they are unbelievably comfortable, durable, and great sounding. I got hooked up so I only paid 250 flat. I'd choose this over any Dre Beats any day. I did a lot of research before I picked these up, and I could not find the Max Input for the Studio's or Pro's, its like they dont want you to know. Pioneers have a 3500mW max input, which means it wont distort even at high volumes. Its good for on shoulder as well, something the studios cant do, the pros can. In terms of sound quality, both are great, but I'd lean towards the HDJ's just because its won numerous awards for its quality. One of my favourite producer's, Deadmau5, uses these. In my opinion, Dre Beats are just a trend, and are super overpriced. Another thing is that you will have to go to a music store to find the HDJ, you cant find them at Best Buy or any regular department stores. So the HDJ is only for Pro DJs. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. There are stories where the HDJ breaks, but very few, and it depends how you treat them. The Pros look really bulky and heavy, which would probably be uncomfortable if you have long sessions. The HDJ only weigh 10oz without the cord. The cord for the HDJ is also coiled which can reach 10ft, not many headphones have that. You should check out this video by the well know Pioneer Rep. Watchwww.youtube.com - notice how wide he bent the headphones, I dont think many headphones have that kind of flexibility. I personally wear my HDJ in public and people love how they look. I rarely see anyone with these, and i see Dre's EVERYWHERE, its a trendy pair of headphones. Nonetheless, I like the Pros, they are quality, but I just dont see it as true DJ headphones. Pioneer has been in the business way longer, and know what theyre doing. Hope this helps.
DJ Dub Cowboy 6:34 PM - 7 April, 2011
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+1 on these. 5 months and not a scratch, incredible sound, and amazing durability
Taiko 3:54 PM - 8 April, 2011
I've got a pair of Aiaiai TMA-1, love these headphones. I picked them up on a whim because I was offered them at a great price and I'm glad I did.

Great sounding, not too bass heavy.
Replaceable cable, durable finish.
Subtle and minimalistic, I'm not a fan of bling.
DJWALDO 4:24 PM - 8 April, 2011
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I just recently bought my HDJ-2000's and they are unbelievably comfortable, durable, and great sounding. I got hooked up so I only paid 250 flat. I'd choose this over any Dre Beats any day. I did a lot of research before I picked these up, and I could not find the Max Input for the Studio's or Pro's, its like they dont want you to know. Pioneers have a 3500mW max input, which means it wont distort even at high volumes. Its good for on shoulder as well, something the studios cant do, the pros can. In terms of sound quality, both are great, but I'd lean towards the HDJ's just because its won numerous awards for its quality. One of my favourite producer's, Deadmau5, uses these. In my opinion, Dre Beats are just a trend, and are super overpriced. Another thing is that you will have to go to a music store to find the HDJ, you cant find them at Best Buy or any regular department stores. So the HDJ is only for Pro DJs. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. There are stories where the HDJ breaks, but very few, and it depends how you treat them. The Pros look really bulky and heavy, which would probably be uncomfortable if you have long sessions. The HDJ only weigh 10oz without the cord. The cord for the HDJ is also coiled which can reach 10ft, not many headphones have that. You should check out this video by the well know Pioneer Rep. Watchwww.youtube.com - notice how wide he bent the headphones, I dont think many headphones have that kind of flexibility. I personally wear my HDJ in public and people love how they look. I rarely see anyone with these, and i see Dre's EVERYWHERE, its a trendy pair of headphones. Nonetheless, I like the Pros, they are quality, but I just dont see it as true DJ headphones. Pioneer has been in the business way longer, and know what theyre doing. Hope this helps.



1. They absolutely can and WILL distort if cranked to high
2. Wether or not they are sold at a department store or best buy does not negate what is pro gear (i got mine from a place called beach camera)
3. Being able to bend the headband backwards means absolutely nothing... it's called memory metal (which the pio's do not have) try bending them backwards like that to show off and hold them too long.... guess what they WILL be bent
4. What headphones have you ever seen have had the headband break? Headphones break on the hinge 8 out of 10 times and the HDJ-2000's are not any different.
5. Are you seriously needing to move 10ft from your mixer with headphones still on?
6. $250 on a discount means they are still higher than hd25's, 7506's and countless others that many, many, many dj's have used and swear by for years and years which at this point as an X hdj-2000 user honestly makes them just as much a fashion and status thing in the dj game as the damn beats......
DJ Jonasty 5:12 PM - 8 April, 2011
I needed new headphones. Got online. Looked at a couple reviews. I liked the AIAIAI model. Ordered em. 10 minutes. I love the new cans. Easy as
MelonHead 9:09 PM - 9 April, 2011
I got my fresh BBD Pros yesterday -- off da chain! Its just too bad they put a BS soft pleather case for it -- and NO STICKYS (wtf) !?!?! Sounds and feels great, though I can see it being a little heavy for some but I have a big head so it kind'a all works out for me.

and being it white, looks good wit my gear.
DJ Jonasty 10:10 PM - 9 April, 2011
I have found the TMA's have less ear fatigue than my Technics 1210's did. Of course this will vary from dude bro to dude bro. They are just so light and when I have them around my neck I can actually move my head around. The cord kind of pulls out easy though. I like the locking cord on the Techs as well as the 90 degree plug to the mixer. The TMA's plug straight in and I'm still getting used to that part. The cord is super long.. Part coiled and part straight. Well designed phones.

I saw some Dre headphones in the vending machine at Atlanta airport. $300, damnnn. I was just looking for some Cheetos. I saw a pair in a shop so I tried to demo them there, but they were busted.
DJ GaFFle 6:22 PM - 10 April, 2011
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I have found the TMA's have less ear fatigue than my Technics 1210's did. Of course this will vary from dude bro to dude bro. They are just so light and when I have them around my neck I can actually move my head around...

Well, I would never recommend anybody wearing Technic 1210 turntables on their head. At 27 lbs. a piece, that could cause a little neck pain and ear fatigue.
jbnyc 6:34 PM - 10 April, 2011
lol
DjCity 12:18 AM - 13 April, 2011
I ordered the AiAiAi TMA-1 and will purchase the Beats Pro's later this week.

I will give a review of each headphone after I've had some time to work with them and after the "break in" period.
jbnyc 12:35 AM - 13 April, 2011
thank god!!
latindj 1:16 AM - 13 April, 2011
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I ordered the AiAiAi TMA-1 and will purchase the Beats Pro's later this week.

I will give a review of each headphone after I've had some time to work with them and after the "break in" period.


so after buying 2 new pairs of headphones, I guess there goes all the money you saved getting a good deal on one.....LMAO! :P
DjCity 1:22 AM - 13 April, 2011
Always a good idea to have a backup. Besides, I can use one pair for gigs and the other at home for. Practice.
jbnyc 2:12 AM - 13 April, 2011
im not gonna front, i would love the beats by dre to practice at home, they would go perfect with my dj table hehe
mikep 4:16 AM - 13 April, 2011
KOSS, the broadcast professional standard for decades and now with lifetime warranty. I love my KOSS and have Bose for backup.
DJJorel 3:33 AM - 14 April, 2011
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I ordered the AiAiAi TMA-1 and will purchase the Beats Pro's later this week.


Now you can make a custom cable for the TMA-1s
i825.photobucket.com
ninos 3:36 AM - 14 April, 2011
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Quote:

I ordered the AiAiAi TMA-1 and will purchase the Beats Pro's later this week.


Now you can make a custom cable for the TMA-1s
i825.photobucket.com


i honestly love that so much its not even funny! some one make me a pair and ill gladly pay!
DJJorel 3:42 AM - 14 April, 2011
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i honestly love that so much its not even funny! some one make me a pair and ill gladly pay!


Pretty easy to make...the guy used Canare cable and Neutrik connectors...

Just scroll down a little more than halfway...he lists the parts: serato.com

I just ordered my parts....Black Neutrik gold-plated connectors and yellow cable...it looks pretty easy to solder a cable together...
DjCity 9:33 AM - 15 April, 2011
Got my AiAiAi TMA-1's yesterday and got to use em last night.

I AM IMPRESSED!!!!!

They sound awesome, very comfortable, GREAT isolation. The Aiaiai TMA-1's are some pretty rugged headphones. They don't press on the ears as much as the Senn HD25's and the build quality is better.
They do have slightly more bass than the HD25's but they sound natural. Very good roll off of frequencies. The highs and mids are balanced and you can wear them at high volume without as much ear fatigue.
Because of the isolation and tone of the TMA-1's, you don't have to have the volume up as loud to be able to hear clearly.

I am very impressed with the Aiaiai TMA-1's.

Waiting on my Beats by Dre Pro's. They should be here next week. ($160). GREAT DEAL!!!
DJ GaFFle 10:05 AM - 15 April, 2011
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I ordered the AiAiAi TMA-1 and will purchase the Beats Pro's later this week.


Now you can make a custom cable for the TMA-1s
i825.photobucket.com

That cable looks like it weighs a ton. Is all that really necessary? It has no coil cord.
DJJorel 5:07 PM - 15 April, 2011
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That cable looks like it weighs a ton. Is all that really necessary? It has no coil cord.


The guy who made the cable says he doesn't like coiled cables, and the TMA-1s don't come with a 90 degree plug. He said weight is not an issue at all, and since he built the cable himself, he was able to attach a low-profile 90 degree 1/4" plug to it.

Personally, I like the coiled cable. But since the parts were so cheap, I'm going to build a cable myself just to see how it is...Canare Star Quad cable is not heavy at all. The 1/4" plug might be heavy, but it becomes a non issue when plugged in.
SELECT 5:35 PM - 15 April, 2011
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I ordered the AiAiAi TMA-1 and will purchase the Beats Pro's later this week.


Now you can make a custom cable for the TMA-1s
i825.photobucket.com



Dude that cable looks dope. I did the braided cable sleeve on my old sony headphones, but I threw em out though after they broke. My brother just did the braided cable sleeves on all my speakon cables for my sound system. It added no weight to them and best part, they never get tangled!! They are now protected from cuts and dings and actually look and feel much better. I highly recommend the sleeves if your cables are expensive and you dont like them getting tangled.
latindj 8:35 PM - 15 April, 2011
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I ordered the AiAiAi TMA-1 and will purchase the Beats Pro's later this week.


Now you can make a custom cable for the TMA-1s
i825.photobucket.com
Dude that cable looks dope. I did the braided cable sleeve on my old sony headphones, but I threw em out though after they broke. My brother just did the braided cable sleeves on all my speakon cables for my sound system. It added no weight to them and best part, they never get tangled!! They are now protected from cuts and dings and actually look and feel much better. I highly recommend the sleeves if your cables are expensive and you dont like them getting tangled.


can you post a link of these sleeves please?

NM
DJ GaFFle 12:27 AM - 18 April, 2011
200th post
SELECT 7:11 PM - 18 April, 2011
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can you post a link of these sleeves please?

NM


I used the cables this past weekend, worked great, easy to wrap up. I love the right angle plugs for the speaker ends. I'll take a pic sometime this week. I asked my brother how he made them. This was his reply-

Speakon connectors:
The 2 and 8 pole versions offer 30 Amp current rating while the new 4 pole spx type features up to 50 Amp current carrying capacity for the operation of high power speakers and amplifiers carrying more than 1000 Watts.
NEUTRIK SPX series is what I used for your cables. I used the NL4FX and the NL4FRX (right angle plug).

Speaker Wire:
12 gauge speaker wire was very expensive, only because I wanted twisted pair construction. Could have gotten something cheaper but I chose this.
www.knukonceptz.com

braided sleeve:
I used size 1/2 inch for your cables. Whenever your doing a project that requires, for example 60ft, always order like 6ft extra, this stuff shrinks and expands and is a bitch to put on a cable.
www.cabletiesandmore.com

heat shrink tubing:
I put it on and use a heat gun to shrink. This is for the ends to keep the sleeves secure. www.parts-express.com
latindj 8:36 PM - 18 April, 2011
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can you post a link of these sleeves please?

NM


I used the cables this past weekend, worked great, easy to wrap up. I love the right angle plugs for the speaker ends. I'll take a pic sometime this week. I asked my brother how he made them. This was his reply-

Speakon connectors:
The 2 and 8 pole versions offer 30 Amp current rating while the new 4 pole spx type features up to 50 Amp current carrying capacity for the operation of high power speakers and amplifiers carrying more than 1000 Watts.
NEUTRIK SPX series is what I used for your cables. I used the NL4FX and the NL4FRX (right angle plug).

Speaker Wire:
12 gauge speaker wire was very expensive, only because I wanted twisted pair construction. Could have gotten something cheaper but I chose this.
www.knukonceptz.com

braided sleeve:
I used size 1/2 inch for your cables. Whenever your doing a project that requires, for example 60ft, always order like 6ft extra, this stuff shrinks and expands and is a bitch to put on a cable.
www.cabletiesandmore.com

heat shrink tubing:
I put it on and use a heat gun to shrink. This is for the ends to keep the sleeves secure. www.parts-express.com


cool, thanks!
hinncoke 5:44 AM - 24 April, 2011
Any word on what you think about the beat pros im still trying to make my decision between beats or the 2000s. i get them 50% off so price isn't issue longevity is.
DjCity 11:51 PM - 24 April, 2011
The Beats Pro's sound much better, have better isolation and are louder. The Pioneers are more comfortable.
The Beats Pro's are built MUCH better.

My choice between the two...
The Beats Pro's.
DjCity 11:51 PM - 24 April, 2011
I had an opportunity to do a SIDE BY SIDE BY SIDE DIRECT COMPARISON of the Sennheiser HD 25's against the Pioneer HDJ 2000's vs beats By Dre Pro's. I also wound up purchasing a pair of AIAIAI TMA-1's. Here is my in depth summary of the cans...

Sennheiser HD 25.....
Excellent isolation and excellent sound. They press on the ears rather tightly but not uncomfortably so. I was quite impressed with the sound quality. Very impressed is more like it. They really sound amazing especially for such a small can.
I was not impressed with the build or the design. I'm not talking about sex appeal but the actual design of the headphone. I did not like that the cable is run through a groove in the headband. Too easy to be pulled out. I did not like the exposed cable around the can itself. Again, too easy to be pulled or to get caught in something. I see the weak spot in their design. The can itself has a little swivel room and thats a good thing but it can snap the arm or the bracket holding the can to the arm. I also found them to be kinds flimsy feeling. Too many things moving around between the swing of the arm, the swing of the headbands and the exposed cable.


Pioneer HDJ 2000's...
The worst sounding of the bunch. By themselves they sound good but in comparison, they do not even come close to the Sennheiser's, the AIAIAI TMA-1's or the Beats By Dre Pro's.
The design is very good though. Isolation is good but not as good as the other headphones. As far as durability, they seem durable enough but the headband is made of plastic and prone to breakage. The swivel has the very nice touch of snapping back into position but it's the actual swivel that concerns me. Although it is made of alloy, it still has many parts held together with screws. screws do come loose after a time and I can see test headphones going the same was as the 1000's. They are more durable than most headphones out there but not as durable as pioneer would have you believe.


Beats By Dre Pro's...
Best isolation of the headphones tested. I was VERY surprised to find the Beat's Pro's to have the best sound of the bunch as well (To MY ear). They are very bass heavy though and I can see some people not liking that amount of bass. When I tried the Beats Pro's in a club atmosphere, I was unimpressed at that time. I later found out that the mixers headphone output had "issues". I did not do a side by side comparison that night but today's testing has changed my mind on the Beats Pro's.
My opinion about the construction remains the same. BUILT LIKE A TANK!!!!! I don't think the Beats Pro's will ever break. They could get run over by a car and survive.
I do not like that the can itself does not swivel left to right in place. They are fixed in place. The swinging arms are just o.k. not great, not bad, just o.k. They are useful but the downside of them is that the can itself has no side to side wiggle so swinging the arm up takes the other can slightly off the ear. There really is no "cueing out one side from your shoulder with the Beats Pros again due to the lack of side to side wiggle.

AIAIAI TMA-1's
I own them as well as the Beats by Dre Pro's.
The AIAIAI TMA-1's are a direct competition to the Sennheiser HD 25's. The design is quite similar with small but totally worth it differences. The AIAIAI's do not swing like the Senn's but they are flexable so they don't need to. The headband is a one piece design and the cable is not exposed like it is on the Senn's.
The AIAIAI TMA-1's....Great headphones!!! Better isolation than the Sennheiser HD 25's, more bass than the Sennheiser HD 25's, louder than the Sennheiser HD 25's. One piece design. Virtually unbreakable.


The Sennsheiser's, the AIAIAI's and the Beats were somewhat close in sound quality but for my ear and style of music, The beats by Dre Pro's edge out over the Sennheiser HD 25's and the AIAIAI TMA-1's.


Well, thats my direct comparison of the three headphones. I was able to use and test all three headphones. I was able to test them on various mixers and with various music all with the same results.



Best...
Beats By Dre Pro's

Second best...
AIAIAI TMA-1's

Third best...
Sennheiser HD 25's

Last place...
Pioneer HDJ 2000's
DJ Dub Cowboy 12:55 AM - 25 April, 2011
thanks for the efforts, great reviews

makes me glad i picked up the TMAs
brkdncr 4:36 AM - 25 April, 2011
I've had a Sennheiser 280 Pro for about 5 years of mixed home and dj use. The earmuffs and headband padding fell apart about 6 months ago. I bought the parts and fixed them up for about $20. When they recently dropped price to about $100 I bought another set.

I've yet to put any headphones on my head that compared. They are extremely comfortable, the cord is coiled and long.

The only thing that I don't like is that the cans are shaped in such a way that they can close against your neck. I pull the band out a bit and the problem goes away.

I've had other DJ's try them out and I always get them back with a "wow these are nice"
hinncoke 7:26 AM - 25 April, 2011
thanks for the review all this talk i want a pair of TMAs but no discount so ill go with the pros thanks again.
DJ GaFFle 1:36 PM - 25 April, 2011
Quote:
I had an opportunity to do a SIDE BY SIDE BY SIDE DIRECT COMPARISON of the Sennheiser HD 25's against the Pioneer HDJ 2000's vs beats By Dre Pro's. I also wound up purchasing a pair of AIAIAI TMA-1's. Here is my in depth summary of the cans...

Sennheiser HD 25.....
Excellent isolation and excellent sound. They press on the ears rather tightly but not uncomfortably so. I was quite impressed with the sound quality. Very impressed is more like it. They really sound amazing especially for such a small can.
I was not impressed with the build or the design. I'm not talking about sex appeal but the actual design of the headphone. I did not like that the cable is run through a groove in the headband. Too easy to be pulled out. I did not like the exposed cable around the can itself. Again, too easy to be pulled or to get caught in something. I see the weak spot in their design. The can itself has a little swivel room and thats a good thing but it can snap the arm or the bracket holding the can to the arm. I also found them to be kinds flimsy feeling. Too many things moving around between the swing of the arm, the swing of the headbands and the exposed cable.


Pioneer HDJ 2000's...
The worst sounding of the bunch. By themselves they sound good but in comparison, they do not even come close to the Sennheiser's, the AIAIAI TMA-1's or the Beats By Dre Pro's.
The design is very good though. Isolation is good but not as good as the other headphones. As far as durability, they seem durable enough but the headband is made of plastic and prone to breakage. The swivel has the very nice touch of snapping back into position but it's the actual swivel that concerns me. Although it is made of alloy, it still has many parts held together with screws. screws do come loose after a time and I can see test headphones going the same was as the 1000's. They are more durable than most headphones out there but not as durable as pioneer would have you believe.


Beats By Dre Pro's...
Best isolation of the headphones tested. I was VERY surprised to find the Beat's Pro's to have the best sound of the bunch as well (To MY ear). They are very bass heavy though and I can see some people not liking that amount of bass. When I tried the Beats Pro's in a club atmosphere, I was unimpressed at that time. I later found out that the mixers headphone output had "issues". I did not do a side by side comparison that night but today's testing has changed my mind on the Beats Pro's.
My opinion about the construction remains the same. BUILT LIKE A TANK!!!!! I don't think the Beats Pro's will ever break. They could get run over by a car and survive.
I do not like that the can itself does not swivel left to right in place. They are fixed in place. The swinging arms are just o.k. not great, not bad, just o.k. They are useful but the downside of them is that the can itself has no side to side wiggle so swinging the arm up takes the other can slightly off the ear. There really is no "cueing out one side from your shoulder with the Beats Pros again due to the lack of side to side wiggle.

AIAIAI TMA-1's
I own them as well as the Beats by Dre Pro's.
The AIAIAI TMA-1's are a direct competition to the Sennheiser HD 25's. The design is quite similar with small but totally worth it differences. The AIAIAI's do not swing like the Senn's but they are flexable so they don't need to. The headband is a one piece design and the cable is not exposed like it is on the Senn's.
The AIAIAI TMA-1's....Great headphones!!! Better isolation than the Sennheiser HD 25's, more bass than the Sennheiser HD 25's, louder than the Sennheiser HD 25's. One piece design. Virtually unbreakable.


The Sennsheiser's, the AIAIAI's and the Beats were somewhat close in sound quality but for my ear and style of music, The beats by Dre Pro's edge out over the Sennheiser HD 25's and the AIAIAI TMA-1's.


Well, thats my direct comparison of the three headphones. I was able to use and test all three headphones. I was able to test them on various mixers and with various music all with the same results.



Best...
Beats By Dre Pro's

Second best...
AIAIAI TMA-1's

Third best...
Sennheiser HD 25's

Last place...
Pioneer HDJ 2000's

Hot damn! Bout time somebody compared them. Those beats are super pri$ey but they are the end all when it comes to build quality and it seems like they're up there with the sound quality too. I will say that the Senn HD 25's may seem flimsy but they are very tough. That cable in the headband just does not come out unless you proactively pull it out.

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I see the weak spot in their design. The can itself has a little swivel room and thats a good thing but it can snap the arm or the bracket holding the can to the arm.

I think I'm gonna disagree here... It doesn't snap the arm OR bracket holding the can. It just doesn't happen nor have I even heard complaints or seen pics of this occurring. Yes, my first impressions of the Senns was they are light and feel flimsy but after using them, you know there's some great engineering going on with them. Now considering the AIAIAI's are a direct shoot-off from the Senn design, that is probably why they are an improvement. Hell, they took nearly all chances of break points out of the design by making them so static (non-rotatable earcups, non-folding, etc).

I agree with you on the Pioneers. Nicely ergonomics, good fit but plastic and screws everywhere except their "Magnesium" hinges.
dj_soo 6:47 AM - 27 April, 2011
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I see the weak spot in their design. The can itself has a little swivel room and thats a good thing but it can snap the arm or the bracket holding the can to the arm.


yea, i know a shit ton of professional, touring djs - all who've been use the senns for years and I have NEVER heard of them breaking let alone breaking where you think there's an "obvious" flaw.

Seriously, you're just making this "weak spot" up based on your own assumption and not based on any facts. It's not like these are the Sony MDR700s where it's well-documented that the joint breaks.

Please find me just one documented report of a pair of senns that have broken at that joint.

And in the unlikely event it does happen to break, it's like $70 to replace...
WarpNote 11:21 AM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:
Seriously, you're just making this "weak spot" up based on your own assumption and not based on any facts.

+ 1
HD25 are built to last!
DjCity 12:11 PM - 27 April, 2011
What's up with you narrow minded dudes?!? Y'all fucking your headphones or something? Go get a girl to fuck and stop dickriding the HD25's. DAMN.

I already said this is MY opinion and about the HD25's breaking...The rep at Chuck levins Washington Music Center made me aware of the breakage. Years ago, senns used to be built better but since being manufactured in China, quality has gone down.
DjCity 12:21 PM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:


Another DJ posted this on a different forum...

his post...
Quote:
I have both the HD-25 and DJM-2000

I prefer to use the Pioneer for my gigs as they are more robust. The sound is not perfect but when used in a club with a powerful system it doesn't matter too much. Bear in mind these "DJ" headphones are not meant to be audiophile quality.

The HD-25 sound great but the build quality is poor for the money. The ones originally made in Ireland were great but since manufacturing moved to China they've been terrible.

I gave my first pair I had used for 6 years to my son & bought a new pair to DJ with. The build quality of the new ones is nowhere near as good as the original ones.

I ended up binning the new ones as the pins that plug in to the cans kept disconnecting and cutting the music off and they literally fell apart.

He still uses the original pair all the time (they are now 10 years old) and I have the Pioneers.
DjCity 12:24 PM - 27 April, 2011
The REP let me know that they can break and the grade of plastic is more brittle than it was in the past.
They are great headphones but not the all in all that they once were.

if you've had a pair for a few years by all means...keep em. Purchasing a brand new pair, you may not feel the same way about the new pair as you did your older pair.

NOW STOP DICKRIDING...
SELECT 12:48 PM - 27 April, 2011
Tell me why you mad son! Buncha Sensative Sallys over here. Now shutup and use whatever you want to. Nobody cares about what silly headphones your using for your nights playing show tunes. For the record if you aint rocking these, you aint doin it right.
www.made-in-england.org
DjCity 12:54 PM - 27 April, 2011
Now thats some funny as hell shyt...

Thanks dude, I needed that.

It just gets on my nerves when people dickride. I gave a real good description based on MY research and what I posted id MY opinion.

Dudes saying that i'm making shyt up gets annoying.

I ain't hating on anyone and I ain't hating on any cans. Dudes just need to get some pussy (or some ass depending on how they swing) and stop sweating what I think about the HD25's.

Im Just saying tho...
WarpNote 12:58 PM - 27 April, 2011
For someone to d-ride Dr.Dre, your one to talk....
DjCity 1:05 PM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:
For someone to d-ride Dr.Dre, your one to talk....


I like the Beats By Dre Pros, the AIAIAI TMA-1's, the Sennheiser HD 25 and the Pioneer HDJ 2000's.
I did a comparison on the 4 sets of cans and came up with the best for me and my purposes with pro's and con's for each pair I tested.
I purchased the top 2...The AiAiAi TMA-1's and the Beats By Dre Pro's.

Where's the dickriding in that fool?!?

Grow up and get a life or a girlfriend or a boyfriend or a dog or something...
WarpNote 1:22 PM - 27 April, 2011
Calm down, DjCity
Remember the only thing I said is, that HD25 is built to last.

They have a proven track record. If you start calling out names you might end up have it come back at you, thats all. Anyway, its all good, enjoy your new cans.

Also, for track record, any users of AiAiAi TMA-1, Beats Pro By Dre & Pio HDJ 2000, please come back to this thread after a year or two of usage for a report. (not meant as joke, I'm genuine interessted in longevity)
DjCity 1:28 PM - 27 April, 2011
I appreciate that WrapNote...We all good.

I will MOS DEF revisit this thread in 3 months, 6 months and a year to update.

I don't d-ride anyone or anything! Sorry if I came off a lil strong. I ain't got nothing against anyone. just trying to do my best to compare the above mentioned cans.

We good dude.
DJ GaFFle 2:42 PM - 27 April, 2011
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...Years ago, senns used to be built better but since being manufactured in China, quality has gone down.

This is not true. The HD25 IIs are still made in Ireland. Sennheiser's lower quality headphones are probably made in China.
WarpNote 3:14 PM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:
I appreciate that WrapNote...We all good.

I will MOS DEF revisit this thread in 3 months, 6 months and a year to update.

I don't d-ride anyone or anything! Sorry if I came off a lil strong. I ain't got nothing against anyone. just trying to do my best to compare the above mentioned cans.

We good dude.

All good City, looking forward to reviews :D
Allan V 8:33 PM - 27 April, 2011
damn look these new beats by dre.. detox version..way overpriced in my opinion

www.bestbuy.com
SELECT 8:41 PM - 27 April, 2011
I tried on the beats pro at best buy, those things are huge and look real funny on my head. I dunno, I wasnt as impressed as I thought Id be.
Allan V 8:43 PM - 27 April, 2011
I agree..felt like an ear muff when I tried them..lol
latindj 8:44 PM - 27 April, 2011
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I tried on the beats pro at best buy, those things are huge and look real funny on my head. I dunno, I wasnt as impressed as I thought Id be.


oh come on...you don't like the princess leia cinnamon rolls on the sides of your head look? what's wrong with you? lol

NM
SELECT 8:50 PM - 27 April, 2011
I know man,
Quote:
Quote:
I tried on the beats pro at best buy, those things are huge and look real funny on my head. I dunno, I wasnt as impressed as I thought Id be.


oh come on...you don't like the princess leia cinnamon rolls on the sides of your head look? what's wrong with you? lol

NM


Your right, maybe they arent big enough lol.
CMOS 8:52 PM - 27 April, 2011
Does anyone have HD25s that are made in china? Every pair ive seen says Made in Ireland. Even the new pair my buddy got last week says this on the headband.
DjCity 8:55 PM - 27 April, 2011
Funny as hell....

Yeah, they are big, heavy and bulky but the sound great, built like a tank and have great isolation.

They are not for everybody tho...
DjCity 8:57 PM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:
damn look these new beats by dre.. detox version..way overpriced in my opinion

www.bestbuy.com


$100 for a color?!? are they serious?!?
Let me get this straight.

$100 extra just to have the headphones in black. PUCK DAT!!!!
DJJorel 9:00 PM - 27 April, 2011
Yeah...the Beats by Dre Pros sound good, but they seem just too heavy to wear for an extended amount of time...especially since I am pretty tall and tend to crouch when I DJ...
latindj 9:02 PM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:
Quote:
damn look these new beats by dre.. detox version..way overpriced in my opinion

www.bestbuy.com


$100 for a color?!? are they serious?!?
Let me get this straight.

$100 extra just to have the headphones in black. PUCK DAT!!!!


a little bitter you didn't hold out another week or two for the black? not to worry...you got yours at such an awesome price I bet you could sell them for a profit and scoop up the new black ones again for an awesome price and still come out ahead...may the force be with you princess!

NM
DjCity 9:14 PM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:
Does anyone have HD25s that are made in china? Every pair ive seen says Made in Ireland. Even the new pair my buddy got last week says this on the headband.


I'm happy for him. Wanna biscuit or something?

You the same fool that said the Beats Pro's looked MAD flimsy. I bet you think Technics are made by an american company huh?
Dj Nyce 9:28 PM - 27 April, 2011
i'm sorry i can't wear anything co-signed by dre or diddy. i've been using some old school sennheiser's for years. they sound amazing, but they don't fold. that my only grip with senn.

my next pair will be the name you can quickly trust...pio HDJ 2000.
dj_soo 11:06 PM - 27 April, 2011
no one's dickriding anything - people are just calling you out for making up shit that's just not true.

now take the sand out of your vag and enjoy what you spent money on. If it breaks 6 months down the road let us know otherwise enjoy your headphones.
jbnyc 11:31 PM - 27 April, 2011
Quote:
Quote:
Does anyone have HD25s that are made in china? Every pair ive seen says Made in Ireland. Even the new pair my buddy got last week says this on the headband.


I'm happy for him. Wanna biscuit or something?

You the same fool that said the Beats Pro's looked MAD flimsy. I bet you think Technics are made by an american company huh?


wtf?? did i missed something? your comment has nothing to do with his comment...
DjCity 3:02 AM - 28 April, 2011
What I was getting at is that "I" don't know where they are made weather it's in Ireland or china. I re-posted what someone else posted about their senns experience.
Don't puff up and post about ya friends joints when you have already proven yourself a fool. (Mad Flimsy). Even if you HATE the Dre Pro's... You can't reasonably say they "FLIMSY" if you have handled them.

The rep at Washington music center made me aware or the breakage issue. It's not something i'm making up like some fools seem to be implying. He is the one that told me the plastic they are now made with is more brittle than they used to be. He did Not say that they made in china but that the quality is not what it used to be.

I'm like this about...be constructive, be helpful or be quiet.
If you happy with your choice of headphones, i'm happy for you no matter what cans you use.

Don't hate on me or another set of cans because you have a narrow mind or because you think your senns are the best thing smoking since tight pussy.

The senns HD25's are some damn good cans. One of the best. Fuck anyone for looking down on me or another product cause I think another product is better.

If i'm being too hard on anyone... and I might be, Dudes need to loosen up and realize that other people have other opinions. I may need to loosen up too.

I have a NS7, a VCI 300, and V7's.
I like the NS7 the best, V7's next and VCI 300 last but that's just me.

I like the Beats Pro's and the AiAiAi TMA 1-'s better than the senns for the reasons that I stated in this thread.

No diss to real dudes but to haters and dumb motherfuckers talking to hear their own shit... They need to grow the fuck up.
BE HELPFUL
BE CONSTRUCTIVE or
BE QUIET...

Now... Im going to TRY to get this thread back on a positive note

Thank you all who HELPED and contributed to this thread. I appreciate your input. I hope I was able to give some insight with my analysis of the headphones I reviewed.
Use the headphones that work best for YOU but if you are interested in any others, This thread may be helpful and informative.
DjCity 3:17 AM - 28 April, 2011
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i'm sorry i can't wear anything co-signed by dre or diddy. i've been using some old school sennheiser's for years. they sound amazing, but they don't fold. that my only grip with senn.

my next pair will be the name you can quickly trust...pio HDJ 2000.


I hear ya dude.
I would be happier if his name were NOT on em and would be happier if they did not have that ridiculous "b" on em but as far as sound and build quality, I gotta stamp em.
DjCity 3:23 AM - 28 April, 2011
Damn... He from Brooklyn.

You should know better. Bklyn cats pride themselves on being different and original.
At least I do.
(Pink Houses / Linden Plaza).
Dj Nyce 3:57 AM - 28 April, 2011
lol yeah. crown heights in the building.
jbnyc 4:08 AM - 28 April, 2011
ohh i hear you, to me he just asked a simple question,i dont think he was dissing anyone but fuck it, far rockaway in the building!!!
CMOS 4:56 PM - 28 April, 2011
Fuck this punk muthafucker. You came in here asking opinions, people gave them to you, you shit on said opinions like you know what the fuck you are talking about when you came in here asking shit.

YOu need to lighten the fuck up son. Lookin up info. SMH.

What i was saying is YOU said that they are made in China now. I asked if anyone had ever seen a pair that DIDNT say IRELAND on the fucking headband.

Some people are just assholes yo.
CMOS 4:57 PM - 28 April, 2011
PS i still think they look mad flimsy and wouldnt buy them.
Billy18bm 5:13 PM - 28 April, 2011
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Fuck this punk muthafucker. You came in here asking opinions, people gave them to you, you shit on said opinions like you know what the fuck you are talking about when you came in here asking shit.

YOu need to lighten the fuck up son. Lookin up info. SMH.

What i was saying is YOU said that they are made in China now. I asked if anyone had ever seen a pair that DIDNT say IRELAND on the fucking headband.

Some people are just assholes yo.


get em..
latindj 5:16 PM - 28 April, 2011
lmfao! it's just headphones...I wish people got this worked up about things that really mattered in life.....SMH....you know what they say about opinions...

NM
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:26 PM - 28 April, 2011
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lmfao! it's just headphones...I wish people got this worked up about things that really mattered in life.....



your right what the fuck is wrong with djs on a dj forum in the dj discussion section discussing dj matters, why the fuck isnt there an in depth discussion about chinas effect on the world economy, the budget defficit, or the civil slaughter on dafur.....SMH
latindj 5:39 PM - 28 April, 2011
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lmfao! it's just headphones...I wish people got this worked up about things that really mattered in life.....



your right what the fuck is wrong with djs on a dj forum in the dj discussion section discussing dj matters, why the fuck isnt there an in depth discussion about chinas effect on the world economy, the budget defficit, or the civil slaughter on dafur.....SMH


Hey dumbass, again, you missed the point. But I've come to expect that from you...
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:42 PM - 28 April, 2011
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lmfao! it's just headphones...I wish people got this worked up about things that really mattered in life.....



your right what the fuck is wrong with djs on a dj forum in the dj discussion section discussing dj matters, why the fuck isnt there an in depth discussion about chinas effect on the world economy, the budget defficit, or the civil slaughter on dafur.....SMH


Hey dumbass, again, you missed the point. But I've come to expect that from you...


which point the one where you came into a thread called "Time 4 new cans...Beats by Dre PRO or Pioneer HDJ 2000 ?!??" read the thread and gets pissy that people are discussing opinions on headphones......ya IM the dumbass
latindj 5:48 PM - 28 April, 2011
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ya IM the dumbass


thanks for agreeing.
DjCity 5:55 PM - 28 April, 2011
Ok killa, it really ain't that serious and I gets my money regardless of forum gangstas. Read what I wrote about bringing this back to a positive thread dude.

I ain't shitin on nothing or no one. I said the Senns are great cans, just not the best cans for me.

You from Bklyn so imma cut U some slack. When you get an opportunity, go check out the Beats Pros. If you still think they mad flimsy then it is what it is.

Personally, I ain't NEVER been a punk. I'm a grown ass man that survived all the shit you probably only heard about. I'm grown enough to know when to let boys be boys and let them grow up.

I been spinnin since the 80's. Spun at the Tunnel, the Funhouse, Latin Quarters, Q Club, Union Station just to name a few.

You trying to let the bullshit go? Or you wanna be a forum gangsta?

Again, I appreciate all the input everyone has contributed to this thread. Hope the reviews and comments are helpful to someone looking for a new set of headphones.
Dj Nyce 6:50 PM - 28 April, 2011
i like turtles
SELECT 6:51 PM - 28 April, 2011
Headphone gangstas..
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:25 PM - 28 April, 2011
i have a belly button
DjCity 7:26 PM - 28 April, 2011
Y'all stupid...lol
DjCity 7:31 PM - 28 April, 2011
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What i was saying is YOU said that they are made in China now.



This is my last point on this silliness before I put this to bed.

Just when and where did "I" say they were mane in china?
It's helpful to read posts in full before commenting.


I ain't got nothing against you cmos, Just don't be an asshole.
latindj 8:45 PM - 28 April, 2011
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What's up with you narrow minded dudes?!? Y'all fucking your headphones or something? Go get a girl to fuck and stop dickriding the HD25's. DAMN.

I already said this is MY opinion and about the HD25's breaking...The rep at Chuck levins Washington Music Center made me aware of the breakage. Years ago, senns used to be built better but since being manufactured in China, quality has gone down.


well, you did reference a conversation with the rep about breakage and stating they are made in China now....
DjCity 8:58 PM - 28 April, 2011
It's a quote from someone else. it's their experience. I referenced a quote from someone else.

If I was unclear, I apologize. I was told by the rep that the quality had gone down in recent years.

I quoted another user about his experience.

Again, if I was unclear or misleading, My Bad and my apologies.
latindj 9:01 PM - 28 April, 2011
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It's a quote from someone else. it's their experience. I referenced a quote from someone else.

If I was unclear, I apologize. I was told by the rep that the quality had gone down in recent years.

I quoted another user about his experience.

Again, if I was unclear or misleading, My Bad and my apologies.


hey it's cool bro. don't worry about it so much. people will take what they need from your review, whether good or bad, you're helping others by posting your findings. it's up to them to make their own personal decisions on what might work best for them. good job.
DjCity 9:18 PM - 28 April, 2011
Thanks,
I Appreciate that.
CMOS 9:18 PM - 28 April, 2011
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It's a quote from someone else. it's their experience. I referenced a quote from someone else.

If I was unclear, I apologize. I was told by the rep that the quality had gone down in recent years.

I quoted another user about his experience.

Again, if I was unclear or misleading, My Bad and my apologies.



Ok I'll let the shit go. What I was asking was because I have heard a number of people say that newer hd25s are made in china. Has anyone (not just djcity) seen a pair that didn't say made in Ireland because I've yet to see one that didn't.

Wasn't really even directed at you and you came out ya neck. Is all good tho, is just the Innernetz.
dj_soo 9:21 PM - 28 April, 2011
y'all should just hug it out
DjCity 9:34 PM - 28 April, 2011
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It's a quote from someone else. it's their experience. I referenced a quote from someone else.

If I was unclear, I apologize. I was told by the rep that the quality had gone down in recent years.

I quoted another user about his experience.

Again, if I was unclear or misleading, My Bad and my apologies.



Ok I'll let the shit go. What I was asking was because I have heard a number of people say that newer hd25s are made in china. Has anyone (not just djcity) seen a pair that didn't say made in Ireland because I've yet to see one that didn't.

Wasn't really even directed at you and you came out ya neck. Is all good tho, is just the Innernetz.


We good dude...
it looks like it was just a misunderstanding.
Kinda like dudes lookin at each other on the train and getting in their feelings...
(WTF you lookin at?).

I'm past that kind of petty bullshit.
But seriously, If you ever get the chance to handle the cans, Check em out for yourself. They not for everybody but they the most durable cans I ever seenbut to each his own.

Problem squashed.
latindj 9:44 PM - 28 April, 2011
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y'all should just hug it out


Watchwww.youtube.com
jbnyc 10:10 PM - 28 April, 2011
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y'all should just hug it out


Watchwww.youtube.com


lol
D CA$H 10:27 PM - 28 April, 2011
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Get the Beats by Dre if you want to be like every other 14 year old with rich parents.


THIS
RogerRabbit 10:45 PM - 28 April, 2011
The moral of the story is : the name of your hood - - still carries weight on the internet...
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:46 PM - 28 April, 2011
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The moral of the story is : the name of your hood - - still carries weight on the internet...



LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:46 PM - 28 April, 2011
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It's a quote from someone else. it's their experience. I referenced a quote from someone else.

If I was unclear, I apologize. I was told by the rep that the quality had gone down in recent years.

I quoted another user about his experience.

Again, if I was unclear or misleading, My Bad and my apologies.



Ok I'll let the shit go. What I was asking was because I have heard a number of people say that newer hd25s are made in china. Has anyone (not just djcity) seen a pair that didn't say made in Ireland because I've yet to see one that didn't.

Wasn't really even directed at you and you came out ya neck. Is all good tho, is just the Innernetz.


We good dude...
it looks like it was just a misunderstanding.
Kinda like dudes lookin at each other on the train and getting in their feelings...
(WTF you lookin at?).

I'm past that kind of petty bullshit.
But seriously, If you ever get the chance to handle the cans, Check em out for yourself. They not for everybody but they the most durable cans I ever seenbut to each his own.

Problem squashed.



the more you know.......because knowing is half the battle
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:47 PM - 28 April, 2011
but dont take my word for it...READ THE BOOK
DJTommyP 9:45 PM - 3 May, 2011
thinking twice about the Pios after reading some of these war stories...

forums.pioneerdj.com
DJ GaFFle 2:24 AM - 4 May, 2011
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thinking twice about the Pios after reading some of these war stories...

forums.pioneerdj.com

The Pioneer HDJ2000's have 2 things going against them from the jump:

1... They're made of plastic (except magnesium 'hinges')
2... They're made in China
Dj Nyce 1:07 PM - 4 May, 2011
damn. i thought the whole thing was metal. #fail
bartmixer 4:00 PM - 4 May, 2011
Hello

I got the Pioneer HDJ 2000 since over 1 year now.
And my friends offer me the Beats Pro last week, and i will give you a review of them, next.

First impression, for the moment , the bass section on the Beats are excellent, so far better than the pioneer. High are more defined too but Mids are more smooth on the Pioneer.

If you 're listenning to a bad mp3 or AAC for example, the Beats Pro will give you the truth in High & Mid, you will stop listenning to it.

Isolation is also more more better on the Beats Pro, but it's more heavy than the pioneer.

Sorry for my english i will improve it soon LOL

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DJ GaFFle 4:04 PM - 4 May, 2011
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Hello

I got the Pioneer HDJ 2000 since over 1 year now.
And my friends offer me the Beats Pro last week, and i will give you a review of them, next.

First impression, for the moment , the bass section on the Beats are excellent, so far better than the pioneer. High are more defined too but Mids are more smooth on the Pioneer.

If you 're listenning to a bad mp3 or AAC for example, the Beats Pro will give you the truth in High & Mid, you will stop listenning to it.

Isolation is also more more better on the Beats Pro, but it's more heavy than the pioneer.

Sorry for my english i will improve it soon LOL

img862.imageshack.us

Thanx dude... I'm thinking about the Beats Pro's now. They've got them in stock at my local Best Buy. I just wish I had a discount coupon or something to take the sting out of the price!
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:05 PM - 4 May, 2011
i listened to the beats at best buy over the weekend and was really pleasantly suprised
DJ GaFFle 4:06 PM - 4 May, 2011
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i listened to the beats at best buy over the weekend and was really pleasantly suprised

Beats or Beats Pro?
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:08 PM - 4 May, 2011
pro
ninos 7:08 PM - 4 May, 2011
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Hello

I got the Pioneer HDJ 2000 since over 1 year now.
And my friends offer me the Beats Pro last week, and i will give you a review of them, next.

First impression, for the moment , the bass section on the Beats are excellent, so far better than the pioneer. High are more defined too but Mids are more smooth on the Pioneer.

If you 're listenning to a bad mp3 or AAC for example, the Beats Pro will give you the truth in High & Mid, you will stop listenning to it.

Isolation is also more more better on the Beats Pro, but it's more heavy than the pioneer.

Sorry for my english i will improve it soon LOL

img862.imageshack.us


NICE MIXER!
jbnyc 7:37 PM - 4 May, 2011
i listened a set of beat to shit beats by dre pro's @ my local best buy and wasnt impressed at all, soon i'll go to another best buy to test another one and check whats all the buzz cause this particular set had one of the cushion ear pieces hanging and when i tried them on they felt funny and i think the pioneer cushion feels better...
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:43 PM - 4 May, 2011
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i listened a set of beat to shit beats by dre pro's @ my local best buy and wasnt impressed at all, soon i'll go to another best buy to test another one and check whats all the buzz cause this particular set had one of the cushion ear pieces hanging and when i tried them on they felt funny and i think the pioneer cushion feels better...



lol ya i think the one i used was blown on one side, eithe either that or its so amasing that you can hear super low grade errors in tracks that youvenever heard before
DJ GaFFle 11:13 PM - 4 May, 2011
Just picked up the Beats Pros today (the white ones). I haven't opened the box. I wanna find out if Best BUy has a restocking or no return on headphones policy first.
jbnyc 1:03 AM - 5 May, 2011
dayumm how much were they? like 435?
DJ GaFFle 11:30 AM - 5 May, 2011
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dayumm how much were they? like 435?

$399 + tax.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:12 PM - 5 May, 2011
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dayumm how much were they? like 435?

$399 + tax.


lol your headphones cost more than my mixer
DJ GaFFle 1:36 PM - 5 May, 2011
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dayumm how much were they? like 435?

$399 + tax.


lol your headphones cost more than my mixer

I'm gonna order some via GC .com. They have a $50 couple I can redeem online or in store. No tax either.
DJ GaFFle 1:55 PM - 5 May, 2011
$50 coupon
DJ GaFFle 4:00 PM - 5 May, 2011
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dayumm how much were they? like 435?

$399 + tax.


lol your headphones cost more than my mixer

I'm gonna order some via GC .com. They have a $50 couple I can redeem online or in store. No tax either.

Just got them online from GC.com at $334 + tax (delivered). I'm taking my Best Buy pair back. I'll be doing a review of the following as soon as they arrive: Beats Pro, Senn HD25 II, Sony MDR700, Sony MDRV6.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:14 PM - 5 May, 2011
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I'll be doing a review of the following as soon as they arrive: Beats Pro, Senn HD25 II, Sony MDR700, Sony MDRV6.



TRACKING
Millz 4:23 PM - 5 May, 2011
IM just going to put it out there, the HDJ2000s are super nice, BUT after a few months, the connection between the wire and the cans becomes loose and loses connectivity. Ive found no fix for this really. Piss poor design IMO
DJ Dub Cowboy 6:26 PM - 5 May, 2011
I remember thinking the HDJ2000 were the end all be all of headphones when they came out....like finally someone got it right.....glad I never got a pair.

That IS how I feel about the TMI-1s and I am so happy that I have them.
DjCity 12:33 AM - 9 May, 2011
Wow...

People are starting to dig the Beats Pro's.

I got a lotta grief in this thread because I posted that they really are a great set of cans in both sound and build quality.

I'm glad that some people are getting past the "dre" bullshit and really checking out the cans themselves.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:56 PM - 9 May, 2011
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Wow...

People are starting to dig the Beats Pro's.

I got a lotta grief in this thread because I posted that they really are a great set of cans in both sound and build quality.

I'm glad that some people are getting past the "dre" bullshit and really checking out the cans themselves.



i tried them again this weekend, i think the earpads are the most comfortable ive experienced in headphones and im diggin the steel frames, they seem VERY durrable...im waitin for gaffles review
DJ GaFFle 2:29 PM - 9 May, 2011
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Wow...

People are starting to dig the Beats Pro's.

I got a lotta grief in this thread because I posted that they really are a great set of cans in both sound and build quality.

I'm glad that some people are getting past the "dre" bullshit and really checking out the cans themselves.

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i tried them again this weekend, i think the earpads are the most comfortable ive experienced in headphones and im diggin the steel frames, they seem VERY durrable...im waitin for gaffles review


So far... they're great! I wanted to demo them prior to purchasing but my closest Best Buy had their display Pro's stolen from the Beats display, LOL.

They got a lot attention from the high school crowd... a prom I DJ'd this past weekend. I was using them with my NS7 and I had to turn the headphone gains up a little higher than I did with my Sennheiser HD25 II's. This probably means the Senns have a higher sensitivity and are slightly more efficient with little headphone power; however, the Beats Pro's don't seem to flub and break up at the loudest of volumes like my Sennheisers do. They are absolutely solid in sound quality and most importantly durability. I find the cord to be a little too short but at least it's coiled at the end. The Beats Pro carry case is too shallow. It doesn't completely enclose the entire headphone when put in the bag and tied up. It's got a leather'ish feel to it.

As far as direct comparisons, I'm gonna try all my headphones on the TTM57 tonight. My Pro's ran me less than $350 delivered and I cracked open an electronic piggy bank with a half a year's saved coins to help fund the purchase. I can't see ever needed or wanting another pair of headphones. I'm imagining these will last as long or longer than my Sony MDRV6's.
DjCity 2:29 AM - 11 May, 2011
So far, i'm still giggin with the beats pro's. I have had no complaints at all. durability is off the charts. I think these cans might outlast my DJ Career.

Sound is still pristine. They have become more comfortable on my head due to me having gotten used to them. They sound better now than they did brand new due to them having been broken in now.

These headphones will tell you the truth. If your track sounds like some bullshit, thats what your gonna hear through the headphones. if it's mastered extremely well, Thats what your gonna hear through these headphones.

I gig with these headphones about 4 times a week.

I will give more updates as time moves on.
ninos 4:46 AM - 11 May, 2011
As Dr. Dre said, " Producers spend so much time perfecting their sound, you cant hear that sound with regular headphones, with beats you can"

i tried those beats out and i was DAMN impressed. too bad for the price of i would pick em up in a flash!
DjCity 10:41 AM - 11 May, 2011
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As far as direct comparisons, I'm gonna try all my headphones on the TTM57 tonight. My Pro's ran me less than $350 delivered and I cracked open an electronic piggy bank with a half a year's saved coins to help fund the purchase. I can't see ever needed or wanting another pair of headphones. I'm imagining these will last as long or longer than my Sony MDRV6's.


Waiting to read your reviews...
Dj K.Smith 3:18 PM - 13 May, 2011
About to pick up some aerial 7's today as back up cans...
DjCity 1:45 AM - 18 May, 2011
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Would you be willing to hold the Beats Pros or the Pioneers at shoulder height and drop them on concrete or a hard floor without worrying about them breaking? Honestly, I could drop my Senns on concrete without worrying about them breaking. Actually, I have...multiple times.


I have dropped my Beats Pro's on hard concrete flooring and hardwood flooring. I even threw them at someone. I threw them HARD. I missed because he ducked. They hit the wall, then the floor.

They STILL WORK!!! No damage whatsoever. They don't even have a scratch on em.

If your wondering why I have been so unnecessarily rough on them.... It's because I have 2 pair. I wanted to see if they really were as tough as they seem to be.
I can say without any doubt whatsoever....THESE ARE THE MOST DURABLE HEADPHONES I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!
haze324 2:34 AM - 18 May, 2011
do you find that they are too heavy to have on for a long night? That was my only concern with them. They just look heavy and big in comparison to Senn's or even HDJ-2000's. How would you compare sound quality to the HDJ-2000's
jbnyc 3:58 AM - 18 May, 2011
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I have dropped my Beats Pro's on hard concrete flooring and hardwood flooring. I even threw them at someone. I threw them HARD. I missed because he ducked. They hit the wall, then the floor.



holy shit!! didnt you just bought this?? LOL no wondering all that research!! haha
latindj 4:45 AM - 18 May, 2011
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do you find that they are too heavy to have on for a long night? That was my only concern with them. They just look heavy and big in comparison to Senn's or even HDJ-2000's. How would you compare sound quality to the HDJ-2000's


oh lord, here we go again....
DJJorel 5:09 AM - 18 May, 2011
This thread has driven me to abandon my headphones and become a wave watcher....lolz
Dj Spin 5:51 AM - 18 May, 2011
ninos 5:53 AM - 18 May, 2011

SEXY
DjCity 11:21 AM - 18 May, 2011
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do you find that they are too heavy to have on for a long night? That was my only concern with them. They just look heavy and big in comparison to Senn's or even HDJ-2000's. How would you compare sound quality to the HDJ-2000's


The Beats Pro's are heavy but comfortable. May take some getting used to if you are use to lightweight headphones.
The sound and build quality are Waaaaaay better than the pioneers.


I had an opportunity to do a SIDE BY SIDE BY SIDE DIRECT COMPARISON of the Sennheiser HD 25's against the Pioneer HDJ 2000's vs beats By Dre Pro's. I also wound up purchasing a pair of AIAIAI TMA-1's. Here is my in depth summary of the cans...

Sennheiser HD 25.....
Excellent isolation and excellent sound. They press on the ears rather tightly but not uncomfortably so. I was quite impressed with the sound quality. Very impressed is more like it. They really sound amazing especially for such a small can.
I was not impressed with the build or the design. I'm not talking about sex appeal but the actual design of the headphone. I did not like that the cable is run through a groove in the headband. Too easy to be pulled out. I did not like the exposed cable around the can itself. Again, too easy to be pulled or to get caught in something. I see the weak spot in their design. The can itself has a little swivel room and thats a good thing but it can snap the arm or the bracket holding the can to the arm. I also found them to be kinds flimsy feeling. Too many things moving around between the swing of the arm, the swing of the headbands and the exposed cable.


Pioneer HDJ 2000's...
The worst sounding of the bunch. By themselves they sound good but in comparison, they do not even come close to the Sennheiser's, the AIAIAI TMA-1's or the Beats By Dre Pro's.
The design is very good though. Isolation is good but not as good as the other headphones. As far as durability, they seem durable enough but the headband is made of plastic and prone to breakage. The swivel has the very nice touch of snapping back into position but it's the actual swivel that concerns me. Although it is made of alloy, it still has many parts held together with screws. screws do come loose after a time and I can see test headphones going the same was as the 1000's. They are more durable than most headphones out there but not as durable as pioneer would have you believe.


Beats By Dre Pro's...
Best isolation of the headphones tested. I was VERY surprised to find the Beat's Pro's to have the best sound of the bunch as well (To MY ear). They are very bass heavy though and I can see some people not liking that amount of bass. When I tried the Beats Pro's in a club atmosphere, I was unimpressed at that time. I later found out that the mixers headphone output had "issues". I did not do a side by side comparison that night but today's testing has changed my mind on the Beats Pro's.
My opinion about the construction remains the same. BUILT LIKE A TANK!!!!! I don't think the Beats Pro's will ever break. They could get run over by a car and survive.
I do not like that the can itself does not swivel left to right in place. They are fixed in place. The swinging arms are just o.k. not great, not bad, just o.k. They are useful but the downside of them is that the can itself has no side to side wiggle so swinging the arm up takes the other can slightly off the ear. There really is no "cueing out one side from your shoulder with the Beats Pros again due to the lack of side to side wiggle.

AIAIAI TMA-1's
I own them as well as the Beats by Dre Pro's.
The AIAIAI TMA-1's are a direct competition to the Sennheiser HD 25's. The design is quite similar with small but totally worth it differences. The AIAIAI's do not swing like the Senn's but they are flexable so they don't need to. The headband is a one piece design and the cable is not exposed like it is on the Senn's.
The AIAIAI TMA-1's....Great headphones!!! Better isolation than the Sennheiser HD 25's, more bass than the Sennheiser HD 25's, louder than the Sennheiser HD 25's. One piece design. Virtually unbreakable.


The Sennsheiser's, the AIAIAI's and the Beats were somewhat close in sound quality but for my ear and style of music, The beats by Dre Pro's edge out over the Sennheiser HD 25's and the AIAIAI TMA-1's.


Well, thats my direct comparison of the three headphones. I was able to use and test all three headphones. I was able to test them on various mixers and with various music all with the same results.



Best...
Beats By Dre Pro's

Second best...
AIAIAI TMA-1's

Third best...
Sennheiser HD 25's

Last place...
Pioneer HDJ 2000's
jbnyc 12:25 PM - 18 May, 2011
I wouldnt mind the beats by dre's weight,i uaually put them on,make the mix,put them on my head for a bit and before the mix i just look for my headphones somewhere on or under the table lol
Dj Nyce 2:05 PM - 18 May, 2011
even if the beats by dre are the best dj headphones ever made, i cannot wear them having "dre" "diddy" or "detox" on them. i just can't.
latindj 4:52 PM - 18 May, 2011
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even if the beats by dre are the best dj headphones ever made, i cannot wear them having "dre" "diddy" or "detox" on them. i just can't.


+1

and paying 400-500 dollars for headphones you are going to wear in a night club environment because they "sound" better is just redonkulous! IMO
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:25 PM - 18 May, 2011
paying 400 500 for headphones with steel hinges so they wont break like all the others = win...IMHO
DJ GaFFle 5:34 PM - 18 May, 2011
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paying 400 500 for headphones with steel hinges so they wont break like all the others = win...IMHO

+1 Anyone can get them for < $350 (delivered) if they do a little searching on the web.
Dj Nyce 6:41 PM - 18 May, 2011
can't somebody get this right? all metal construction, sound as good or better than senns, swivel, fold, replaceable cord, not ugly, no bloodclot albumsthatwillnevercomeout on the headband.
latindj 6:48 PM - 18 May, 2011
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paying 400 500 for headphones with steel hinges so they wont break like all the others = win...IMHO

+1 Anyone can get them for < $350 (delivered) if they do a little searching on the web.


well, my hdj-1000's are definitely prone to breaking but I've got 5 good years out of them for under $200. I can only imagine the hdj-2000's are much better than these and can be had for a little more than that....so that's where I personally will draw the line.
DjCity 7:01 PM - 18 May, 2011
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can't somebody get this right? all metal construction, sound as good or better than senns, swivel, fold, replaceable cord, not ugly, no bloodclot albumsthatwillnevercomeout on the headband.


+ 1000

The Beats Pro's would be perfect if not for the damn labeling!!!
haze324 7:10 PM - 18 May, 2011
my opinion after only trying them at Best Buy for a few minutes, is that for 350.00 they sound as good as cans that are in the 200 range. So the extra 150.00 is more of a tax because it's "Beats by Dre" than the actual metal contruction. We've all read about the plastic Senn's lasting for years and years and those go for under 200 bucks. I think difference in price margain is more for the name than signifcant diffeerence in quality. at 167.00 for Senn's 350.00 is a over 100% increase in price.

They do look pretty cool though....and I'm sure they sound great as well.
CMOS 8:58 PM - 18 May, 2011
LOL yall wouldnt buy Monster cable right, take a look who makes Beats By Dre.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:02 PM - 18 May, 2011
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LOL yall wouldnt buy Monster cable right


.....why wouldnt we?
Dj Nyce 3:23 AM - 19 May, 2011
monster cable is overpriced. for cables i only fucks with www.monoprice.com
DJ Half 10:13 PM - 22 May, 2011
I know I mentioned that I'd get the Beats By Dre Pro's but ended up getting the Pio's HDJ 2000. Smaller and Lighter, that is why. They both sound pretty good.
haze324 10:34 PM - 22 May, 2011
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I know I mentioned that I'd get the Beats By Dre Pro's but ended up getting the Pio's HDJ 2000. Smaller and Lighter, that is why. They both sound pretty good.


Just got them as well for those same reasons. Diggin them big time.
DJ Half 12:10 AM - 23 May, 2011
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I know I mentioned that I'd get the Beats By Dre Pro's but ended up getting the Pio's HDJ 2000. Smaller and Lighter, that is why. They both sound pretty good.


Just got them as well for those same reasons. Diggin them big time.


They are growing on me. Just spent 4 hours wearing them, my ears are not as tired as they are when I wear the Beats By Dre SoloHDs in the Gym for an hour.
MelonHead 12:58 AM - 23 May, 2011
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hmmm.. dats classified... j/k..

my girl bought me a set of Ultrasone DJ1 last year.. she also got the Pro Plan Coverage to go with it for 2 years. My DJ1's acted up so went and sent them back and GC hooked me up with a reimbursement card for the exact amount of the DJ1 and I simply paid the difference for the BBD Pro's.

ain't gonna lie... I'm a little excited about some damn headphones :)


30 sumthin days later and i absolutely have no regrets nor any negative remarks about the BBD. Loud, clear, solid, trendy.. wat more can u really ask. Although, it did felt heavy for da first few nights, heavy enough dat I actually felt a little sore after a show.. but after a few gigs, ain't nuthin but a thang... EFFIN LOVE 'EM! Best cans I've ever owned.

funny how now, everyone asks to rock it even when they tried to tell me all sorts of dumb shit and not get 'em from the get go... tell to your face you ain't nothin but a faker!
dj_soo 2:19 AM - 23 May, 2011
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my opinion after only trying them at Best Buy for a few minutes, is that for 350.00 they sound as good as cans that are in the 200 range. So the extra 150.00 is more of a tax because it's "Beats by Dre" than the actual metal contruction. We've all read about the plastic Senn's lasting for years and years and those go for under 200 bucks. I think difference in price margain is more for the name than signifcant diffeerence in quality. at 167.00 for Senn's 350.00 is a over 100% increase in price.

They do look pretty cool though....and I'm sure they sound great as well.


Think you might be thinking of the hd25-sp

Not really up to snuff for dj headphones . Hd25s are usually around $225
haze324 12:49 PM - 23 May, 2011
^^
HD-25-1's are listed at Unique Squared for 167.00 and HDJ-2000's were listed for 239.00. I shopped around for a bit, even had a pair of Ultrasone DJ1 Pro's on order for 145.00 but they were back ordered at that price till next month so I jumped on the Pio's for 239.00
DJ Half 12:40 AM - 24 May, 2011
Returning my HDJ2000's. I have reconsidered to getting the beats Pro due to:

moving my cord to the other earcup because I use my right ear to cue and left for master.
I like the swing back vs. the rotate. I'm getting old and that old school kick up your shoulder just gives straighn! lol
Bad thing? They are heavier and if I toss them on top of anything, it'll hurt the landing pad!

HDJ2000s,

Pros: They are smaller, looks very nice, Sound very good
Cons: The cord makes them heavy, I don't like the rotate. Can't choose what cup to put the wire. Can't swing the cup back and not mess up whats left for a hair doe. lol

I hope this helps other people out there who are looking. This is my personal choice and hope you might get something out of it. Other than that, they are both really nice. It's a matter of how I use them at this point.
DJ Half 12:46 AM - 24 May, 2011
Sorry for the spelling. AUTO TEXT! lol

Strain
Hair Do
DJ Half 4:33 AM - 24 May, 2011
Got the Beats Pro. They fit tight. Hope that loosens up. Other than that, they are good and not as heavy as I anticipated them to be.
MelonHead 12:18 AM - 25 May, 2011
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Got the Beats Pro. They fit tight. Hope that loosens up. Other than that, they are good and not as heavy as I anticipated them to be.


they'll losen up -- i also use the round foam dat holds down da platers inside my coffin to kind'a keep 'em open.. worked after a few days -- now they fit perfect.

did u get da whites or da blacks?
DJ Half 12:45 AM - 25 May, 2011
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Got the Beats Pro. They fit tight. Hope that loosens up. Other than that, they are good and not as heavy as I anticipated them to be.


they'll losen up -- i also use the round foam dat holds down da platers inside my coffin to kind'a keep 'em open.. worked after a few days -- now they fit perfect.

did u get da whites or da blacks?


I got the blacks. Good idea, gonna try them out that way. Thanks.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:09 PM - 6 June, 2011
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Got the Beats Pro. They fit tight. Hope that loosens up. Other than that, they are good and not as heavy as I anticipated them to be.



im excited to get a pair
DjCity 8:34 PM - 15 June, 2011
My Beats By Dre Pro Headphones are still the BEST headphones I have ever had. Indestructible and excellent sound.

I am very happy with my choice and i'm happy others are happy with their choice.

I will post again in another few months.
Mr. Goodkat 11:01 PM - 15 June, 2011
ive been using those new pioneers the 2000s and the 500s. the 2000s are big as hell, but sound really good at high volumes, the 500s are a bit tinny, but i like the size on my ear. we'll see how they last.
Evictor 1:46 AM - 21 July, 2011
If you own beats by dre, your a tool. Horrible sound quality, all of them. I wanted a pair when they first came out so I did ALOT of research, if you like bass but don't care about anything else, or if your a brand whore that feels the need to conform to every rich kid in north america, by all means, might as well buy some skullcandys. Im waiting on a pair of TMA-1's, currently I use Ortofon One's, hands down the best headphones I have ever used. You can feel the spacial differences and the metal plate the mids and highs bounce off of make them crisp and clear. The build quality is rugged, I just fold em up and throw em in my DJ bag. The noise cancelation is my only gripe, when you have the monitors blaring at you I constantly find myself Turing up my headphone's gain level. Excellent frequency range and cans that can go the distance. Best part is you just can't walk in to the store and by em. Had to order mine overseas. Still haven't caught another club DJ or anyone for that matter rocking my Ortofon One's. Beats The crap out of dre and DJ-2000's hands down. Can't wait to get my hands on my new AIAIAI TMA-1's!!
DJ Dub Cowboy 1:54 AM - 21 July, 2011
love my TMA-1s

fucking amazing and I love that no one knows what they are.

my only gripe is that the cord can come loose from the cans without too much effort (no lock), however, I have a grip of 1/8" to 1/8" cords if I ever need to replace it.
Evictor 2:38 AM - 21 July, 2011
I know, I can't wait to get mine fooled round with a friends pair and can't wait. I like how the cord comes loose easy. I had another DJ step on my cord in the middle of my set and almost tipped the DJM over on my current cans.
Dj Nyce 4:23 AM - 21 July, 2011
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love my TMA-1s

fucking amazing and I love that no one knows what they are.

my only gripe is that the cord can come loose from the cans without too much effort (no lock), however, I have a grip of 1/8" to 1/8" cords if I ever need to replace it.


i'm looking at these. how do you get around the earcup not swiveling and the headphone not folding?
latindj 4:25 AM - 21 July, 2011
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I know, I can't wait to get mine fooled round with a friends pair and can't wait.


no homo?
Evictor 4:30 AM - 21 July, 2011
Bua ha ha ha ha ha ha! I just caught that! Deff no homo
latindj 4:31 AM - 21 July, 2011
lol
Evictor 4:31 AM - 21 July, 2011
@ DJ Nyce, they are made of a flexible nylon compound, they move wonderfully and bounce back in to position every time. You can just move it behind your ear. No swivel required.
Stepsahead 6:11 AM - 21 July, 2011
Sennheiser HD25.

I've been using these cans for years & in my opinion they are the daddy for DJ-ing. Nearly every part is replaceable including the ear pads, leads, head cushion & the main frame. They are comfortable & most importantly sound awsome.

Don't buy beats by dre .... they are on the market for people that want to pose. They only look good but sound shite!!!
the_black_one 6:53 AM - 21 July, 2011
im i and latindj the only sane people in here!


Ban-wagon, easily brain washed, be yourself!!!

even at 400 bucks, its fucking crazy!
the_black_one 6:54 AM - 21 July, 2011
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Sennheiser HD25.

I've been using these cans for years & in my opinion they are the daddy for DJ-ing. Nearly every part is replaceable including the ear pads, leads, head cushion & the main frame. They are comfortable & most importantly sound awsome.

Don't buy beats by dre .... they are on the market for people that want to pose. They only look good but sound shite!!!


+100000000000
the_black_one 6:54 AM - 21 July, 2011
Sennheiser HD25.


till i die
DJ Dub Cowboy 7:58 AM - 21 July, 2011
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love my TMA-1s

fucking amazing and I love that no one knows what they are.

my only gripe is that the cord can come loose from the cans without too much effort (no lock), however, I have a grip of 1/8" to 1/8" cords if I ever need to replace it.


i'm looking at these. how do you get around the earcup not swiveling and the headphone not folding?


they are a lot less bulky that most DJ cans. When they are in the pouch they take up less room that a folded set.

+
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@ DJ Nyce, they are made of a flexible nylon compound, they move wonderfully and bounce back in to position every time. You can just move it behind your ear. No swivel required.


which also makes them bounce. I sometimes like to spike my phones after a good mix
Dj Nyce 1:30 PM - 21 July, 2011
i have Sennheiser's (not the Sennheiser HD25) and they sound amazing. totally durable, but it's time for some new ones.

i believe that Sennheiser HD25 may be the best overall cans for DJ's and studio use, but they are just fucking ugly (my personal opinion). what's with that divided headband?

anyways i think i will try the eye eye eye TMA-1's. i hate the fact that they don't swivel, but i'm willing to give it a try. if they don't work i'll take em back, grumble, curse, grumble some more and get the Senn's.
DJ Dub Cowboy 3:18 PM - 21 July, 2011
I was tripping on the no swivel but they work. They don't spin around 170 degrees like some cans but there is a lot of flex in them. They really thought out of the box.
WarpNote 12:08 AM - 22 July, 2011
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Sennheiser HD25.


till i die

+1

I've got 2 pairs actually, just ordered a new corded cable and new velour pads for my most worn set.
RAMPING 12:32 AM - 22 July, 2011
Watchwww.youtube.com

what headphones are those?
the_black_one 12:46 AM - 22 July, 2011
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Watchwww.youtube.com

what headphones are those?



Sennheiser HD25
RAMPING 12:49 AM - 22 July, 2011
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Watchwww.youtube.com

what headphones are those?



Sennheiser HD25


That's what I thought, but his is one Bar across the head, can you take it off or something?
the_black_one 12:51 AM - 22 July, 2011
google them
RAMPING 1:09 AM - 22 July, 2011
tma-1 cheaper, getting those.
the_black_one 1:14 AM - 22 July, 2011
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tma-1 cheaper, getting those.



good choice
yoyoqiuqiu 1:32 AM - 22 July, 2011
Perhaps you can look at this store! Get what you want here! goo.gl
The Return of Dj Sparky 2:23 AM - 22 July, 2011
Cheers I was looking for somewhere to be ripped off
DjCity 12:12 AM - 15 September, 2011
My Beats By Dre Pro's are STILL the best headphones I have ever owned. Not a scratch on em. they have been dropped numerous times and still.... NOT EVEN A SCRATCH!!!!

They STILL sound outstanding!!!

I stand by my review and will keep revisiting this thread every few months to report.
The Return of Dj Sparky 12:25 AM - 15 September, 2011
cant say the same about my hdj 2000's,

have the same issue as this user on the pioneer forums, forums.pioneerdj.com
mine are still under warrenty though so hopefully they repair/replace them just been too busy to return them to where i got them as its only cosmetic and doesnt effect the performance but still there now damaged
Dj Spin 2:57 AM - 15 September, 2011
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My Beats By Dre Pro's are STILL the best headphones I have ever owned. Not a scratch on em. they have been dropped numerous times and still.... NOT EVEN A SCRATCH!!!!

They STILL sound outstanding!!!

I stand by my review and will keep revisiting this thread every few months to report.

+1 :)
MelonHead 4:03 AM - 15 September, 2011
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My Beats By Dre Pro's are STILL the best headphones I have ever owned. Not a scratch on em. they have been dropped numerous times and still.... NOT EVEN A SCRATCH!!!!

They STILL sound outstanding!!!

I stand by my review and will keep revisiting this thread every few months to report.

+1 :)


+2
Steve Markovitch 5:42 AM - 15 September, 2011
This is a messed up thread!

I am glad I did read it as I was considering getting the HDJ 2000's but @ $369.99 here in Canada I will save up for the Dre Pros. I personally like the heavy feel and I do DJ for up to 4 hours at a time.

The "Detox" version is laughable though for an extra $100.00 - these are retailed at $549.95 or $449.95 for the reg Pro model in Canada. This is damn well near the same price as my $599.00 Pioneer DJM-350 Mixer :-/
WarpNote 6:55 AM - 15 September, 2011
Good to hear you've happy with those cans. I've never tried the beats, they're just not my cup of tea. Looks big & bulky (to me), but then again, if everyone made the same choices, how much fun would that be? Been tag-teaming with a buddy last few gigs. His got the Pio HDJ 2000, and I have to say they were a let down. They look the part, but sadly the sound is no way near the Sennheiser HD25, not so good isolation, less comfortable fit, less bass response, and overall not so loud.

Kind of annoying when using a K8 monitor.. Then again, everyone's outer and inner ears are shaped differently. So just try out a few different brands, and find what works for you....
Dj Spin 3:45 PM - 15 September, 2011
djpuma_gemini 4:01 PM - 15 September, 2011
I just can't see myself using dre headphones when everyone and their mama (not dj's) use them.

I'm happy with my PIO HDJ2000's.
Dj Nyce 4:26 PM - 15 September, 2011
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I just can't see myself using dre headphones when everyone and their mama (not dj's) use them.

I'm happy with my PIO HDJ2000's.


amen
WarpNote 4:30 PM - 15 September, 2011

"Expect footballers to start wearing them soon."
Dj Spin 5:31 PM - 15 September, 2011
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"Expect footballers to start wearing them soon."

Lol :)
juelz701 6:06 PM - 15 September, 2011
I spoke to a local DJ who also works at the Guitar Center. He told me to avoid Dr. Dre beats at all costs, not worth the money and not a good set of headphone for a DJ by DJ I mean one that actually mixes music and uses the headphones to do so not the ones who just SLAM!
latindj 6:24 PM - 15 September, 2011
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I just can't see myself using dre headphones when everyone and their mama (not dj's) use them.



I'm happy with my PIO HDJ2000's.




amen


+2 hail marys...
SiRocket 7:48 PM - 15 September, 2011
+1 on the dre pro's.... (i didn't pay retail). And i wear mine behind the neck "over the shoulder"
the_black_one 7:54 PM - 15 September, 2011
sorry if this come across as harsh but the dre headphones are mainstream targeted headphones that IMHO are horrible looking, OVERPRICED, heavy, hunk of clown crap. The isolation and sound are average at best. The construction is below average. If you have some good for you but when your ready to buy something for other that looks and brain washing advertisement there are many headphones out there for PROFESSIONAL musicians for you to look into.
SiRocket 8:14 PM - 15 September, 2011
the ones with the batteries and such might be... but you could say the same with the sony grays that break constantly... at the end of the night, a monitor is a monitor, i see headlining cats using ipod ear buds, or a lower "quality" model sony studio headphone that you would see at your highschool, or target headphone shopping aisle.

In the end nothing is really professional except in-ear formed monitors because they are professionally created to fit your ear and acoustics...

Professional "DJ" products shouldn't break under professional DJ usage....

P.s. i guess you can tell all of the skullcandy "pros" that their licensed headphones aren't good enough for them to spin with and that they are nOObs....

:)
DJ Dub Cowboy 8:29 PM - 15 September, 2011
some of best "mixing" comes from the times when I have the shittiest headphones.
the_black_one 9:16 PM - 15 September, 2011
None of the dj's that i follow wear skull candy cans, I have no idea why that brand was brought up. After 3 years with the Sennheiser HD25, i now use in ears( shure ). The next step is Ultimate ears. After 19 years of punishing my right ear with a loud monitor i needed protection and in ears have provided that.
canicypher 4:48 AM - 16 September, 2011
Sennheiser HD 280. They block out all outside noises really well even in loud clubs you can hear whats in the headphones clearly. I use them for gigs and in my recording studio as well. They have a variety of placement options and are comfortable to wear all night. Fair price (around $120) and they've been real durable for me too.
DJ metaphor 11:22 AM - 16 September, 2011
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None of the dj's that i follow wear skull candy cans, I have no idea why that brand was brought up.

I used a pair of $80 skull candys for a month.. and they BROKE. didn't bother sending them in.
Dysquo 6:52 AM - 19 September, 2011
Those BBD David Guetta Mixr's look dope.
dj_soo 7:27 AM - 19 September, 2011
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None of the dj's that i follow wear skull candy cans, I have no idea why that brand was brought up.

I used a pair of $80 skull candys for a month.. and they BROKE. didn't bother sending them in.


skull candy was aggressively sponsoring a lot of djs a few years back - I knew a lot of guys who were decently big using them - they would admit that the headphones were garbage, but I guess they got some cash from em so they kept using em...
DJ Ginger 7:31 AM - 19 September, 2011
Don't buy dre's. They look good, and sound alright but the price is almost all in the licence.
DjCity 2:29 PM - 19 September, 2011
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Don't buy dre's. They look good, and sound alright but the price is almost all in the licence.


It all depends on how much you pay for them...

I paid less than half of retail for a pair of cans that should last waaaaaay longer than any cans I had previously.

To each his own tho.
I'm happy with mine and they did not break the bank.
djpuma_gemini 2:40 PM - 19 September, 2011
I dont buy monster period. Overpriced shit.
SiRocket 8:17 PM - 19 September, 2011
i don't buy monster period, but having some friends in the consumer and pro audio industry have their perks, it would have cost me more to buy 2000's at wholesale cost then getting the pro's. So i went with the pro's.

Unpacking them for their first use did bring some chuckles... the packaging is nice but it does make you notice that its all a brand and name gimmick. I despise the beats brand but i really do enjoy the pro's, but damn well wouldn't pay 250 - 400+ retail for them.
Dj Nyce 11:57 PM - 19 September, 2011
Seeing Victor Ortiz rock these on hbo's 24/7 should say it all.

Let's not forget Turtle on Entourage. Major Nelson (Larry Hryb) from Xbox Live.

oh and i saw Katie Holmes with a pair on too...
the_black_one 1:10 AM - 20 September, 2011
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Seeing Victor Ortiz rock these on hbo's 24/7 should say it all.

Let's not forget Turtle on Entourage. Major Nelson (Larry Hryb) from Xbox Live.

oh and i saw Katie Holmes with a pair on too...



I'm going to ignore all of my personal knowledge that i have gained in 19 years of djing and just because VIctor Ortiz and turtle have some i'm now going to buy them based on pure image and advertisement, glitz and stupidity.!!!

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i will stick to was has worked w/out any problems for over 5 years
RAMPING 11:38 PM - 20 September, 2011
senheiser the open ones or closed ones are good?

thinking of getting them!!
DjCity 11:42 PM - 20 September, 2011
If you like em...Great!
If you hate em..Great!
If they work for you....Great!
If they don't work.......Great!

If you have never handled them and never used them then you don't know what you are talking about.

I used to think that the Beats By Dre Pros were the same kind of bullshit as the rest of the beats lineup.
I was wrong.

The Pro's are serious headphones with serious sound and by far the best built headphone on the market.
The price is out of order though. Waaaaaay overpriced but DAMN if they ain't about the best sounding and best built headphones out there.

ALL METAL CONSTRUCTION!!!!
That's all I can say.
I own Beats By Dre Pro's and AIAIAI TMA-1's Both are exceptional headphones.
DjCity 11:43 PM - 20 September, 2011
Read my review on the headphones...

It may help someone make a choice.
DJGeorgeT 2:23 AM - 21 September, 2011
in ear monitors are the best. I use Ultimate Ears Triple.Fis, three-drivers per ear for casual listening. Customs are nice, but too expensive. For djing, it is the HD25.
SiRocket 6:20 PM - 21 September, 2011
some people would rather hate on the gear then the dj's skills... imho...
Loading Display 12:04 PM - 22 October, 2011
There are a few reviews where the
Beats Pro are 'beaten' by the Audio Technica ATH-PRO700MK2. (just saying)
this is on sound quality.

And I read almost all posts and this is my conclusion:
no offence but really DjCity is a little kid..
(Sure every DJ trows their headphones at the wall, or throws them at the floor.)
DjCity confirms the fact that 14year old kids wear Beats by Dr. Dre :) Joking ^^


Pioneers come last place? This proves you are not the right man to judge..

Btw if you go to a store for a side-by-side comparison do not forget the 'cool'-looking headphones are 'over'-used.

Anyway I would get hd 25's but those are overpriced.. (no 200euro's isn't much but for what you get it is..)
And they are not around ears :/
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:39 PM - 22 October, 2011
Im still seeing people say

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The construction is below average.



...theyre made of steel for cryng out loud, theyre unbreakable, how is that poor construction!!
Dj matty k 1:07 PM - 22 October, 2011
I have the hdj 2000 and cant fault them :-) but with me it was the weigh up with beats pros to but went with the trusted pioneer brand not saying the others are not good but went with what i knew and the reivews were good on them :-)
DJMark 7:36 PM - 22 October, 2011
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I dont buy monster period. Overpriced shit.


Yep.
RAMPING 8:37 PM - 22 October, 2011
do the sennhesier wire on the bottom detach?

the one that connects to the mixer..
Dj matty k 8:39 PM - 22 October, 2011
what make ones i think they all do tbh :-)
Dysquo 6:53 AM - 24 October, 2011
I've used both the Beats Pro & HDJ 2000s and I officially endorse the Monster Beats!

BTW - Did you guys know that Monster had a official DJ Crew?
@IMAMonsterDJ -Twitter
www.monsterdj.com
DJSHARK 12:30 AM - 25 October, 2011
I think it's funny on the monsterdj.com website the pics of Dj Dysquo he has the pioneer 2000 headphones on.
SiRocket 7:37 PM - 25 October, 2011
didn't realize that, thats kind of funny :)
Dj matty k 10:04 PM - 25 October, 2011
^^^^ Thats funny :-)
Dysquo 2:21 AM - 26 October, 2011
Hey, I said I tried both!!! Lol
djnonstopla323 2:35 AM - 26 October, 2011
pioneer for the win I had the beats they're too uncomfortable after like 20 min the pioneers have good sound and they're light
Niro 4:57 AM - 26 October, 2011
Be careful with the Beat Headphones, I was in Bangkok a couple of weeks ago and all of the beats headphones were knock offs and selling at about 20% of the price. They had everyone and also made up color ways. They also looked and felt pretty on point. I'm sure the sound quality isn't good, but I'm sure most won't notice since so many people think pioneer mixers sound good. Don't get ripped off.
Dj Ace 4:59 AM - 26 October, 2011
I love the pioneer HDJ 2000's best headphone I EVER heard and I usually stay away from pioneer products...the beats by dre no comparison
Dj Ace 5:00 AM - 26 October, 2011
I have both...my wife bought me some thinking they were the "best" but after giging with the Pioneers, whew off the chain!
SiRocket 8:19 AM - 26 October, 2011
Why would they display pioneer product on the monster page, whomever is in charge of web/advertising/and or marketing should step down now... #smh.
pdidy 9:36 AM - 26 October, 2011
I think I trust this review more than some you who I'm quite sure have never tested the other model you claim sound like shit. This is the internet so people do lie..... blog.channelliveproductions.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:03 PM - 26 October, 2011
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didn't realize that, thats kind of funny :)



i think its even funnier the only people prominatly displaying the dres are the blinged out chicks lol
MelonHead 1:24 PM - 26 October, 2011
I love my over weight, over priced, over rated BBD cans ; )
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:40 PM - 26 October, 2011
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I love my over weight, over priced, over rated BBD cans ; )


My personal taste is for over weight, bulky headphones. Thats just my preference
MelonHead 1:44 PM - 26 October, 2011
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I love my over weight, over priced, over rated BBD cans ; )


My personal taste is for over weight, bulky headphones. Thats just my preference


U got me there... ROUND OF APPLAUSE
chlyklass 2:49 PM - 26 October, 2011
Had my HD25s for 5 1/2 years before they were stolen recently. They were extremely reliable, but I have to say I never really found them to be optimal for DJing. Cup didn't swivel (the new ones do that apparently, but still don't turn) so I've gotten accustomed to leaving them on when I blend tracks, a habit I definitely wanna break. I also disliked the fact that the cups don't cover the whole ear, not so much for DJing but when listening to music for long periods of time they hurt my ears. Doesn't really matter though since I can buy separate ones for that.

So here's my question: Do you guys really think it's necessary to have high quality phones for mixing? I get the isolation argument but sound quality seems secondary to me just to here the kick and the snare for a couple seconds.

So what I'm basically looking for is a decent headphone to dj off the shoulder that sounds good enough in loud environments. I sweat pretty hard in clubs sometimes so the cushions just shouldn't become mush that quickly. Durability isn't that much of an issue if I find a modestly priced model that meets my needs, because then I'll just get a new one every once in a while.
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:52 PM - 26 October, 2011
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Do you guys really think it's necessary to have high quality phones for mixing?


IMHO YES!! I dont think they need to be TOP DOLLAR cutting edge but you need to be able to cloearly define the sound, ive had to spin with the walmart sonys before and my mixing was DEF off, not saying its not possible, you can train your ears and experience is def a factor but why not just get the right tools for the job instead
chlyklass 3:23 PM - 26 October, 2011
Sure, but say the Sennheiser 205s would be good enough? (Just as an example, I realize those don't rotate either...)
DjCity 9:19 PM - 27 October, 2011
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There are a few reviews where the
Beats Pro are 'beaten' by the Audio Technica ATH-PRO700MK2. (just saying)
this is on sound quality.

And I read almost all posts and this is my conclusion:
no offence but really DjCity is a little kid..
(Sure every DJ trows their headphones at the wall, or throws them at the floor.)
DjCity confirms the fact that 14year old kids wear Beats by Dr. Dre :) Joking ^^


Pioneers come last place? This proves you are not the right man to judge..

Btw if you go to a store for a side-by-side comparison do not forget the 'cool'-looking headphones are 'over'-used.

Anyway I would get hd 25's but those are overpriced.. (no 200euro's isn't much but for what you get it is..)
And they are not around ears :/


DJ City is a Grown man and a professional DJ gigging at a minimum of 4x a week.

You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine.

#1, Beats by Dre Pro
#2. AiAiAi TMA-1
#3. HD-25's
#4. Pio 2000
DJJorel 7:55 AM - 30 October, 2011
Has anybody tried the Beyerdynamic DT1350 headphones yet?

I guess they must not be that great...I haven't really heard any feedback about them...
DJ Ginger 4:04 PM - 31 October, 2011
Well Im a fan of the HD 280 Pro by sennhiser. Great sounding and incredibly accurate. But most Djs don't like them cause they don't smile.
RAMPING 8:57 PM - 31 October, 2011
i'm getting the TMA-1 soon, their only 150 on ebay brand new.
skratchworx 9:17 PM - 31 October, 2011
www.skratchworx.com

The most complete DJ headphone group test around. Includes the Beyers and is always being added to. I've asked and asked Monster for Dr Dre's but no joy. I think they're scared of being compared against established headphones. I do have my doubts about them standing up to a regular DJ beating.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:22 PM - 31 October, 2011
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I do have my doubts about them standing up to a regular DJ beating.



ya because we all know how fragile steel is, that shit breaks all the time /sarcasm
the_black_one 10:46 PM - 31 October, 2011
Bezz.... We. Know that you know your fucking headphones are made about of steel! Must you continue to defend your Decition on cans?
the_black_one 10:46 PM - 31 October, 2011
* out of
DJ GaFFle 1:39 AM - 1 November, 2011
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www.skratchworx.com

The most complete DJ headphone group test around. Includes the Beyers and is always being added to. I've asked and asked Monster for Dr Dre's but no joy. I think they're scared of being compared against established headphones. I do have my doubts about them standing up to a regular DJ beating.

Looks like everyone in the bunch will snap or break at some plastic pivot point (besides the Sennsheisers and AIAIAI's) as they're all made of plastic.
the_black_one 2:00 AM - 1 November, 2011
Gaffle....... wait for it.... Bezzle and his "THEY ARE MADE OUT OF FUCKING STEEL" comment
the_black_one 2:01 AM - 1 November, 2011
and by the way! ford focus are made out of steel and they are pieces of shit!
mikep 3:42 AM - 1 November, 2011
I see that none of the "reviews" linked or quoted here include KOSS. I stillstand by them as the standard in studio and mobile. I guess they don't want to deal with the KOSS quality os lifetime warranty. I've had mine since the early '80's and they replaced them last year when I called about the plastic slide pieces breaking.
WarpNote 8:34 AM - 1 November, 2011
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I do have my doubts about them standing up to a regular DJ beating.



ya because we all know how fragile steel is, that shit breaks all the time /sarcasm

Steel pads, steel cables? Wow ;-) .....
psalmon 5:26 PM - 1 November, 2011
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I see that none of the "reviews" linked or quoted here include KOSS. I stillstand by them as the standard in studio and mobile. I guess they don't want to deal with the KOSS quality os lifetime warranty. I've had mine since the early '80's and they replaced them last year when I called about the plastic slide pieces breaking.



Which model do you use mikep?
sixxx 5:41 PM - 1 November, 2011
"Steel pads, steel cables? Wow ;-) ..... "

hahaha
DJ'Que 7:10 PM - 1 November, 2011
funny shit my beats pro kept falling of my cd Coffin sat. I swear they fell like 10x on concrete and they did not break. my sony's fell and broke instantly.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:20 PM - 1 November, 2011
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funny shit my beats pro kept falling of my cd Coffin sat. I swear they fell like 10x on concrete and they did not break. my sony's fell and broke instantly.



really?? so on contrary to the practical opinion of the theory the steel held up better to abuse than plastic.....interesting /sarcasm

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Gaffle....... wait for it.... Bezzle and his "THEY ARE MADE OUT OF FUCKING STEEL" comment


i LMFAO at this because as i read the post i was already angrily grabbing my keyboard ready to type that
DJ'Que 4:59 PM - 2 November, 2011
@ bezzle naw I know there steel but they do have a weak part thats at the input jack for the cable. That part is either aluminum or steel. Well as I just screwed it off the cap its aluminum. But under that its plastic and so is the bracket its made on. Thats where I was like if it falls thats where It would break. Funny thing was I kept thinking someone stole it when I didnt see it. I was setup at a barbershop party.lol
brainstorm 9:34 AM - 19 December, 2011
(I wrote this kind of like a review. Its pretty long, but hopefully it will help someone out in the future)

Well!

I started casually reading this thread for a little input on which headphones to buy… Before I knew it I’d read the whole thing and signed up as a member. This is a great discussion. And I wanted to contribute by sharing my own experience of buying some headphones last week.

After reading various reviews and forums I went to my local DJ shop the other day and tried out a few headsets. I mainly focused on the HDJ2000, the HD25-1 II and the TMA-1. I think I tried a couple of others, but they don’t appear to have registered with me, so they can’t have been that great.

The demo system they had set up was quite gutless so the listening experience was lacking. Probably the main conclusion I reached was that the AIAIAI’s were pretty uncomfortable. It might just be me, but the way the headband sits on the tip of your head with no padding or anything is not ideal, especially for a long session. I will admit they are a good looking, good sounding set of headphones, but they’re not for me.

As a side note, I ruled out the Dre Beats without even trying them due to not being able to afford the Pro’s and not being interested in the rest. To me it makes sense that they would have pretty decent sound since Monster has a good reputation. But they are ridiculously priced and look a little over the top, so I decided not to waste the guy’s time.

The next day I went to a different store to do a better comparison of the HDJ2000’s and the HD25-1 II. I spent about 2 hours there on just the two sets of headphones and listened to a wide range of my favorite tracks back-to-back, so I am pretty confident in the conclusions I have come to. Here are my thoughts:

In terms of sound these headsets came out about even. This is not to say they are the same – they are worlds apart. But overall they each have a great sound of their own.

The Pioneers have a very full sound. The bass isn’t just big – its also deep. The packaging put the frequency response at something like 3 – 30,000hz, which is an impressive claim. I normally take these sorts of statistics with a grain of salt, but in this case the depth was outstanding. You can actually feel the lower frequencies resonating. Its kind of like the headphones have a small subwoofer built in. The Pioneers really have presence!

On the other hand the Sennheisers have clarity. Especially in the mids and highs. But the bass while not being as full is still very tight. The frequency range on these is better than average, but you don’t get the high highs or low lows. What you do get is certain details that are less obvious with the Pioneers. Because these have a flatter frequency response than the Pioneers, they are a strong choice for anyone who also does a little producing on the side.

This is not to say that the Sennheisers are gutless or lacking in bass. Just like the Pioneers are not found wanting in clarity. But back-to-back its what stands out as the defining difference between the two sets. I would give the Pioneers a 5/5 for range and 4/5 for clarity, while with Sennheisers those numbers would be switched. So like I said: Even. But different.

As a final note on sound, you will get a LOT more power out the Pioneers. I noticed that with the Sennheisers I needed to turn the gain up a lot more to get the same output. I believe the Pioneers have the better drivers and the higher wattage which means that you can seriously crank them if that’s your preference. But it also means that if you choose to run them at a more sensible volume, the speakers will run comfortably with a heap of headroom. That should lend itself to strong reproduction of sound as well as increasing the life of your headphones. I am a little fuzzy on the full theory of all this especially since the Sennheisers didn’t list all of the necessary specifications on their packaging. But anyway, that’s my rough understanding.

Moving onto isolation the Sennheisers probably take it by a nose. To test this I turned off my music, chucked on the headphones and just listened to the people talking around me. In each case I could make out every word quite easily so the impact is not huge. This is the first time I have bothered investigating isolation in a set of headphones, so I probably had false expectations of all outside noise being blocked. This is not the case. During a performance I can’t imagine there being a huge reduction in sound coming from the main sound system. What I will say is that the peaks in sound seem to be muffled away so that the outside noise is evened out and therefore less distracting. I’ve decided that if you really want isolation you need in-ear headphones. As for the two sets being compared, I felt that the Sennheisers did a better job of reducing both overall volume and peaks in sound.

This leads onto the next issue which is comfort. One of the reasons the Sennheisers have better isolation is that they clamp quite firmly onto your head. The Pioneers sit more loosely on your head, but achieve isolation by surrounding the ear. Because these two styles are so completely different, I suppose it just comes down to personal choice. These are two totally different approaches to making headphones and they come as a complete package. If you want to have big speakers and cups that surround your ears you commit yourself to quite a beefy headphone with all the padding and extra structure that that requires. However, if you are happy to have a smaller speaker and a tighter fit you can get away with a very simple lightweight structure.

Incidentally, just as I was coming to these conclusions myself a friend of mine dropped into the store and told me the same thing. He had used the HD25-1 II for some production and was very impressed with the sound, but said they start to bite into the side of your head after a while. Most DJ’s seem to rearrange or remove their headphones quite regularly, so for the most part this should only be a minor concern.

Another interesting thing I noticed was that you don’t necessarily get less hot wearing the Sennheisers. I had assumed this would be the case, but the extra pressure on your ears does cause them to heat up just as with a full cup headphone. At the same time I suppose you have comparably less weight on other areas of your head which might lead to overall less fatigue, but for me its always the ears that get the hottest. This is not a negative for the Sennheisers, by the way. Its just something I assumed would be a positive that turned out to not be.

The real benefit to the Sennheisers is that they are light. There is something to be said for being able to move your head around naturally and not feel weighed down. If that’s important to you then you should like these headphones. In contrast the Pioneers are not light, but are well designed to sit comfortably on your head so that the weight and pressure is well distributed. Whether you prefer to have more pressure on your ears or to distribute pressure across your head is without a doubt a personal preference.

One last thing to mention on comfort is how the headphones feel when not worn normally. A number of DJ’s seem to do anything but wear their headphones correctly, so its important that headphones can be used in a range of positions. Both headphones can easily have one speaker tucked behind the ear, which is probably the most important variant. In each case the headphones feel both comfortable and stable. Both sets can also be used around the back of the neck with your shoulder supporting one cup to your ear. The one thing you can do with the Pioneers that you can’t do with the Sennheisers is bend the cup backwards. This can be handy if you have taken off your headphones completely and want to check something quickly without putting your headphones back on. Not really a deal breaker for most, but a point of difference.

In terms of build quality its more of the same – these sets are both well built in their own different ways. The Sennheisers are notably made pretty much entirely of plastic, but its quite a hard plastic with a good amount of flex. The Pioneers are made of hard plastic and magnesium alloy and use hinges and joins for flexibility. Of the two the Pioneers are definitely the more substantial, but its like comparing the build quality of a bicycle with the build quality of a car. Just because the Sennheisers aren’t physically as strong, doesn’t mean they aren’t well built. Its fair to say that the Sennheisers don’t NEED to be built of metal because they are a simple and lightweight design supporting relatively small speakers.

Having said that if I had to bank on the physical longevity of one of these products it would be the Pioneers. I am distinguishing between durability and strength here, because half the time headphones don’t die during standard use – someone sits on them or something. For general wear and tear I would say both headphones are equally good. Likewise for being dropped I think both sets will take a fair amount of abuse (although the metal on the Pioneers might not look as nice with a few dings). But for withstanding the impact of random events over an extended length of time the point has to go to the Pioneers. There’s a certain confidence that comes from knowing your headphones are made from the same stuff as car wheels.

Finally comes the question of style, which for me is really just a landslide to the Pioneers. Its not that I find the Pioneers amazingly attractive, but that the Sennheisers don’t even make an attempt. There is nothing about the look of the HD25-1 II’s to suggest aesthetics came into question at all during the design process. They are so very plain. And not a cool, minimalist kind of plain like the AIAIAI’s. It’s the kind of plain like I remember my grandad's headphones when I was a kid. Just. Undesigned.

The Sennhesiers have an overall cheap aesthetic. Ugly ordinary screws are exposed; wires poke out here and there; every plastic part looks so blatantly plasticky; and there is this odd feature cone at the hinge point. I don’t really like the mechanism for adjusting the size either – its clunky and prominent. There are smoother and better looking ways of adjusting headphone size these days. I could go on, but you get the idea. I think today we recognize that something can be built for a specific purpose, be functionally awesome, and still look good. Luckily for Sennheiser, most DJ’s put style quite low down the list.

In contrast the HDJ2000’s are a stylish and modern looking set of headphones. Hinges, screws and wires are cleverly concealed; a variety of textures are used including brushed metal; and labels and logos are detailed and tasteful. Plus, for a larger unit these headphones achieve quite a low profile by following the curve of the head and only jutting out quite near to the cup. Aesthetics come down in part to personal choice, but Pioneer have put in a solid effort with this design. I think with the uprising of cheap showy headphones, the Pioneers have struck the right balance between seriousness and style.

So with all of this in mind, which headphones did I choose? To be honest this decision was so difficult I changed my mind several times at the counter. Twice the guy even put the transaction through, but I ended up canceling when entering my card details. Needless to say these are two great sets of headphones and I think most DJ's will learn to love the benefits of either product.

On the one hand the Sennheisers have crystal clear sound and good isolation. They have a flat frequency response suitable for a wide range of applications including production. They are lightweight. And while they aren't at the forefront of style, they look professional and have the distinct advantage of being 20% cheaper in my region.

On the other hand the Pioneers have a massive range of sound with crazy amounts of power. The frequency response is made with DJ's in mind giving extra treble and bass for cueing and beat matching. They are built to last for years and designed to look the part.

In the end the deciding factor was actually application. When I spend that amount of money on a pair of headphones I want to know I can use them for whatever. The more I thought about the different uses I might have the easier my decision became. Of course I primarily bought these headphones for DJing. But for one, I also want to be able to casually plug into my iPhone when it suits me. And for two, I like to be able to play the odd game or two on my PC.

This tipped the balance and helped me to choose the Pioneer HDJ2000's. In my opinion they are a better match for iPhone/iPod users, because if you have the inclination to pump out your favorite track full bore you're not going to run short on power. And they will generally suit part time gamers better because when it comes to emotive soundtracks and special effects you're going to really enjoy that extra depth in the bass.

If I had different interests I imagine I could just as easily have gone for the Sennheisers. If you are interested in production, they are quite easily the better choice. Likewise they will suit live stage mixing along with any other situation where getting a true representation of sound is paramount. Some might say these are the better choice for games and movies – that really comes down to clarity over range. And there are a whole array of other differences that might be a deal breaker for you: style; strength; weight etc.

All I can say is that these are two completely different, but equally brilliant sets of headphones. Anyone who claims one or the other is rubbish is misinformed or some sort of fanboy. I doubt anyone will regret purchasing either and I would thoroughly endorse both pairs of headphones.
dj_soo 11:31 AM - 19 December, 2011
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Having said that if I had to bank on the physical longevity of one of these products it would be the Pioneers. I am distinguishing between durability and strength here, because half the time headphones don’t die during standard use – someone sits on them or something. For general wear and tear I would say both headphones are equally good. Likewise for being dropped I think both sets will take a fair amount of abuse (although the metal on the Pioneers might not look as nice with a few dings). But for withstanding the impact of random events over an extended length of time the point has to go to the Pioneers. There’s a certain confidence that comes from knowing your headphones are made from the same stuff as car wheels.


you'd be wrong. The senns are nigh indestructable - and that's mainly because they have very few weak points (i.e. hinges) - i've had the same pair for 5+ years - many falls, many drops, many drunken nights of just tossing them into a bag - and the only thing I've replaced is the cable twice and the earpads once.

That's the other plus of senns is that in the unlikely event you manage to crack the headband, you can just order a new headband and replace the broken one... same with every piece on those headphones...

I think more than anything that's what makes senns such a good value...
WarpNote 11:58 AM - 19 December, 2011
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The Pioneers have a very full sound. The bass isn’t just big – its also deep. The packaging put the frequency response at something like 3 – 30,000hz, which is an impressive claim. I normally take these sorts of statistics with a grain of salt, but in this case the depth was outstanding. You can actually feel the lower frequencies resonating. Its kind of like the headphones have a small subwoofer built in. The Pioneers really have presence!

On the other hand the Sennheisers have clarity. Especially in the mids and highs. But the bass while not being as full is still very tight. The frequency range on these is better than average, but you don’t get the high highs or low lows. What you do get is certain details that are less obvious with the Pioneers. Because these have a flatter frequency response than the Pioneers, they are a strong choice for anyone who also does a little producing on the side.

I'd have to disagree on this. Yeah, in a quiet environment, the pioneer sound more "bassy".
But in a real world situation, ie djing in a booth with a loud monitor, the pioneer has some issues with isolation, which in turn will make you crank them even louder, and you'll end up with a lot of high pitch noise. At least that's my personal experience. Also when plugging in the Sennheiser to the mixer (Rane 68) they feel louder and fuller than the pioneers....

And dj_soo is right about durability, HD25 have maintained broadcast industry standard for a very long time, for good reason... I agree that the pioneers look good, but when it boils down to quality the senns are still you're safest bet...
popnwave 6:37 PM - 19 December, 2011
My biggest gripe with headphones is a weak hinge. I may finally give the HD25 a spin after looking at the design. I've always had Technics and Pioneers.
DJ Remy USA 7:12 PM - 19 December, 2011
Am I the only DJ that uses ear buds to DJ? I hate regular DJ heaphones cause they end up hurting my ears after a while
DJ GaFFle 7:50 PM - 19 December, 2011
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Am I the only DJ that uses ear buds to DJ? I hate regular DJ heaphones cause they end up hurting my ears after a while

Naw... I use Ultimate Ear Triple Fi 10's and I prefer those most of the time. The TF10's use to be over $350 each but you can get them now for less than $140.
the_black_one 8:19 PM - 19 December, 2011
Shure in ears are what I use some of the time.
Niro 10:35 PM - 19 December, 2011
Funny, I'm at the audiologist reading this right now, I'm getting some ear impressions to get my UE Triple Fi's re-shelled for back-ups.

I use Westone ES5's, I also have a pair of Westone UM3X with UM56 tips for back up. But after using straight customs, I'm gonna get my UE Triple Fi reshelled into customs, it would have actually been cheaper than getting the custom UM56 tips.

I tried Shure 425 and 525 in-ears and am not a fan of their sound signature. They sounded really tingy and didn't reflect the sound of the music. My preference would be Westone, Ultimate Ears and last of all Shure's.

I have gone thru countless headphones and now that I'm on in-ears, I couldn't imagine going back. It takes a minute to get use too, but after you do, it's over. They sound better, isolate better and most importantly save your hearing.
DJJorel 8:28 PM - 22 December, 2011
Hellomusic.com got the Beats Pros for 299....I might have to try them...
stuuj 2:45 AM - 10 February, 2012
hey OP, if your still reading this thread ill give you my 2 cents. I am a bog fan of dre beats and although they are a fashion item I care a lot for very high SQ too. Having had a friend who had the studios I liked them at first, but wanted better quality, and so got a pair of pros. Now im not just another douche who thinks they are the best, I've trialled so many pairs of cans/buds just to find what I wanted and the pros came out on top, and thats after trying out sennys/pioneer/sony/panny/klipsch/ics/grados/westones etc etc. All the people who bum the hd25s are mostly failed djs who think because joris uses them they are brilliant and thats everything. but dont forget, will from 2manydjs, aswell as diplo, borgore and many others use the beats pro too. and im not a Dj but what i love is my music loud and full of filthy bass which feels like your head is going to explode after every beat. and for that nothing touches the pros. except
for the detox beats. Now THEY are nice :)
DJJorel 7:13 AM - 10 February, 2012
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All the people who bum the hd25s are mostly failed djs who think because joris uses them they are brilliant and thats everything


Failed DJs? So what about those commentators for the NFL...have they failed too? At the Rane booth, Faust and Shortee and the Beat Junkies...they all used HD25s...they're failed DJs too...

Here's the point...the HD25s are industry standards for a reason...because they work, and they work really well. The Beats Pros work well too...Sennheiser is not the only company out there who is capable of making good headphones...
dj_soo 7:47 AM - 10 February, 2012
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um, ok.

good sound doesn't mean it's good for DJing otherwise DJs would be all about a pair of Grado's.

Senns have some of the best isolation, overall flat sound quality, and construction + every piece is replaceable making it a great headphone for DJs.

I'm sure beats pro's sound good but the simple fact is you're paying a premium for the Dre name - if you can get a discount like the OP, they're probably worth it - but not if you pay full price.

Senns are basically the 1200s of headphones. High quality and time tested.
DJ Remy USA 1:23 PM - 10 February, 2012
Everybody my beats by Dre....man funk dat Im rocking ear candy's
Dj Nyce 4:02 PM - 10 February, 2012
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hey OP, if your still reading this thread ill give you my 2 cents. I am a bog fan of dre beats and although they are a fashion item I care a lot for very high SQ too. Having had a friend who had the studios I liked them at first, but wanted better quality, and so got a pair of pros. Now im not just another douche who thinks they are the best, I've trialled so many pairs of cans/buds just to find what I wanted and the pros came out on top, and thats after trying out sennys/pioneer/sony/panny/klipsch/ics/grados/westones etc etc. All the people who bum the hd25s are mostly failed djs who think because joris uses them they are brilliant and thats everything. but dont forget, will from 2manydjs, aswell as diplo, borgore and many others use the beats pro too. and im not a Dj but what i love is my music loud and full of filthy bass which feels like your head is going to explode after every beat. and for that nothing touches the pros. except
for the detox beats. Now THEY are nice :)


based on your comments you obviously have no idea what sound quality is and what the requirements for DJ headphones are.

i'm not sure what sham of a studio your buddy is running, but if he is giving his clients beats to monitor from...not a good look. if he is mixing down tracks using beats, i want my money back.

professional studios aka battery, chun king, D&D use AKG and Sennehiser headphones for a reason. Not because Katy Perry wears them.

oh and Dre and Beats are no longer partners. I guess we'll see what happens next.
latindj 6:45 PM - 10 February, 2012
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oh and Dre and Beats are no longer partners. I guess we'll see what happens next.


Beats by Minaj? LOL!
DJYoshi 6:46 PM - 10 February, 2012
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oh and Dre and Beats are no longer partners. I guess we'll see what happens next.


Since I'm a member of the Monster Cable family....I need to clarify... Jimmy Iovine & Dre are partners in the brand "Beats."
Monster Cable brought the research and technology that brought the Beats brand to life... Beats brand will retain some patents... Monster will retain others...

So there will still be Beats By Dre... they just won't be produced and distributed by Monster Cable anymore.
CMOS 8:43 PM - 10 February, 2012
What i find funny is a lot of people who shit on the HD-25s went and bought the TMA-1 for more money.

Its the same headphone with newer cables no??

I may be wrong but they looks like copies.
DJJorel 9:37 PM - 10 February, 2012
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What i find funny is a lot of people who shit on the HD-25s went and bought the TMA-1 for more money.

Its the same headphone with newer cables no??

I may be wrong but they looks like copies.


I have both...they're both dope. Which one of these headphones I use at the time is pretty much random.
TeeKay92 4:43 PM - 24 February, 2012
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BEATS is overrated


Maybe for most but I can get the beats PRO's for about $260 instead of that ridiculous overprice of $400.

BEATS is overpriced...I agree but I got that problem fixed.


you can get these for US$ 856 in Australia...lol...from where i stand it seems like a bargain...
hyun 7:18 PM - 24 February, 2012
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What i find funny is a lot of people who shit on the HD-25s went and bought the TMA-1 for more money.

Its the same headphone with newer cables no??

I may be wrong but they looks like copies.


I have both...they're both dope. Which one of these headphones I use at the time is pretty much random.


i have both as well... the TMA-1's are better looking, but i prefer the sound quality of the HD25-1 II's.
DjSsx 6:02 AM - 1 March, 2012
True what Hyun said the hd25 1 ii is better than aiaiai tma-1. I will see how long tma-1 will last.
DJWALDO 10:45 AM - 1 March, 2012
Speaking of monster.... anyone know if they will ever release those damn t1's.... been on pre order for like a year.... got contacted by the place I pre ordered and was told they were approaching final production and if i kept my pre order they'd send me the tron in ears for free.... been rocking those with the ipod for like 2 months still nothing.... was cool to get free shit but damn. waiting on slick headphones i'd only use once in a blue moon is getting old.
sixxx 8:13 PM - 1 March, 2012
Okay... so I wondered into this thread once before just to see what was up BUT I DIDN'T READ IT ALL. Now I have and I have to say... WOW.

After all that reading...
Looks to me like a lot of people are knocking the Beats by Dre PRO because they

a) cost too much and they can't afford them
b) cost too much and that alone says to them, you're a rich douche bag if you own them
c) they're made by Monster and are comparing the headphones to the cables made by the same company.
d) keep making the same mistake and thinking that all Beats headphones are the same.

But, looks like the guys who ACTUALLY listened to them, tested them, and ultimately bought them, gave an actual review AND LIKE THEM..... A LOT.

Then, we have Ricky J who comes with the common sense, as always, good dude. (no homo)

Now, you may be wondering why I'm in here and why I took the time to read all this shit? Well, it looks like I'll be getting some Beats by Dre PRO for free. Yes. Free.

So, that should automatically shut the mouths of those who think I'd be getting them for any other reason besides what I would look for in a headphone: sound, feel, durability, looks (as in design). No, I don't care about looks in the sense that they have to be a "popular" brand for me to wear, but rather looks in the way a design is done as to not look like a toy, or something that just doesn't look professional or doesn't perform how it should perform for a working club/gig environment.

Don't ask me why or how they'll be free as I can't publicly comment on that. But, as a regular DJ who has been doing this for 20 years. I think, if you take away the high price and the stigma that only rich douche bags would wear these, it actually makes sense to get these headphones.

Once they're in my possession, I will come back and give you guys a full review on JUST THE BEATS PRO feel/sound/look to me.

And no, I'm not getting them for free from Monster or anyone else associated with the company/brand so my review won't be bias.

nm
DJYoshi 8:36 PM - 1 March, 2012
sixx speaking his mind.
Waldo, I'll ping the marketing team and find out for you when the T1's official ship date is. I got mine a few weeks back for review and liked them...

Sixx really is on point when he says the beats pro sound great.
quality response...they're a hell of a lot more durable than the beats solo.

as a group, we're not pushing the beats line anymore since beats and monster aren't doing business together at the end of the year.... but i'll be honest and say that i put the beats pro up against expensive ass pairs of senheiser, shure buds and lower level headphones like technics and sony studio lines...and the beats pro blew them away... they are a little TOO on the bass heavy side...and your ears will bleed if you have them more than 1/3 of the way up on the volume knob....

yes, beats started to become that "status" kind of brand...but take that away, and it really is a quality product
DJWALDO 8:44 PM - 1 March, 2012
Yoshi... if you got them a few weeks ago then there's a good possibility they will hit in the later in the spring... I know it was something to do with the edges being sharp and a couple other issues. Just gets a little old leaving money sitting around just in case they finally hit. However the prospect of brushed aluminum and white headphones with blue lights in them is worth the bs in the end heh. definite show pieces!
sixxx 8:57 PM - 1 March, 2012
"Sixx really is on point when he says the beats pro sound great."

No. I didn't say that. I have NEVER heard them or even try them on. lol
I was posting what people who own them and have tested them have said.
I will give my full review when they're in my possession.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:58 PM - 1 March, 2012
^lol I caught that to!
sixxx 9:00 PM - 1 March, 2012
"yes, beats started to become that "status" kind of brand...but take that away, and it really is a quality product "

I guess that's what I meant by looks. I think a lot of people automatically put a negative spin on anything that is "status". Like I could give a fuck anyway. lol
Dj Nyce 9:01 PM - 1 March, 2012
more beats sighting: hilton lobby...entire Notre Dame women's b-ball team. all of them. yes all of them.

BDL airport: special kid and and old black lady.
sixxx 9:02 PM - 1 March, 2012
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more beats sighting: hilton lobby...entire Notre Dame women's b-ball team. all of them. yes all of them.

BDL airport: special kid and and old black lady.


Yeah... but were they all wearing the Beats Pro? I doubt that. lol

nm
Dj Nyce 9:02 PM - 1 March, 2012
bdl airport: most of cincy women's b-ball team
sixxx 9:03 PM - 1 March, 2012
Btw, I think it's funny that DJ's are knocking the beats because of that alone... yet, they go shoe crazy over shit that is also "status". lol
Dj Nyce 9:03 PM - 1 March, 2012
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more beats sighting: hilton lobby...entire Notre Dame women's b-ball team. all of them. yes all of them.

BDL airport: special kid and and old black lady.


Yeah... but were they all wearing the Beats Pro? I doubt that. lol

nm


no shit. all of them. some had them around their necks, some had them on their ears.
Dj Nyce 9:04 PM - 1 March, 2012
there was some cute ass chick that was with them. don't know who she was but she wasn't a player. she did not have a pair.
sixxx 9:04 PM - 1 March, 2012
Oh shit... they're going to great lengths to advertise the Beats Pro then. hahaha
DJWALDO 9:08 PM - 1 March, 2012
did anyone go see regeneration? the entire symphony Premier worked with... minus the couple sets of 7506's....
DjWoody 9:16 PM - 1 March, 2012
I tried the Beats Pro before. They sound great and they look durable. My only problem is that they're pretty heavy and the cups are bulky. Those two facts alone were a big turn off for me, otherwise I probably would've bought them.

When my Senns go bad, I'll probably replace them with the new Senn's or another pair of HD 25's. They're just so comfortable and so light, plus they sound very clean and get no distortion.

nm
DjSsx 2:33 AM - 2 March, 2012
Hi guy I got a question should I get the pair of Senn headphone it's new in box made in Ireland 70 ohm or is there a better version? I hate the straight steel cable on these. I am no pro cable maker but I craft some cable before I can tell the cable on the Senn is meh not so great and need upgrade another $40-50.
Now I got a coupon for 29$ off. This was the only version in the store.
On to another pair the xone xd 53 I like these I think it was better as a Dj phone anyway
coil cable. Nothing bad to say about these the coil cable is a plus use right away without buying extra cable. It was huge compare to the Senn but anyway. 53m driver I know best in the business. Hdj2000 cost $150 more so I don't want that just $200 range. But that where the problem is with the Senn extra cable 50 buck addidas version 250buck, its will total 300 buck. I might as well get Dt1350 for that price.

The store only had the 70ohm senn and the xd53 they also have hdj1000 and hdj2000
I got a coupon. So If I were you what would I buy?
DjWoody 4:05 AM - 2 March, 2012
There's several different versions of the Senns, some of them even come with an L-Shape plug, others are straight. If you want, you can also customize them since they sell the replacement parts in various colors.

The original ones with coiled cable are hard to find in the USA. I have them, but mine were special order. Google this part number so you can find them: HD 25-C II.

Amperior Version (NEW)
www.sennheiserusa.com

Adidas Version
www.sennheiserusa.com

Original & Coiled Version
www.sennheiserusa.com

Custom Parts (You can also order the parts directly from Senn in the USA).
www.customcans.co.uk
DjSsx 5:27 AM - 2 March, 2012
Thanks DJWoody I heard of Sennheiserusa before I didn't relized they have different version of the Senns cost 300$ for the coiled original. I'll buy from guitar center though got a coupon now if anyone interested. So I get it for 170$ for the studio version.
guitarcenter.com for the coupon.
Anyone prefer the xone xd 53 over Senns?
DJYoshi 8:35 PM - 2 March, 2012
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I tried the Beats Pro before. They sound great and they look durable. My only problem is that they're pretty heavy and the cups are bulky. Those two facts alone were a big turn off for me, otherwise I probably would've bought them.


cups take some getting used to...i don't know if it's bulk, or more b/c it's more of a rigid feel.
the new line that's being worked on..this was one of the big things that all of us addressed with the R&D team at Monster... and possibly offering variations of cups that can be utilized.

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Btw, I think it's funny that DJ's are knocking the beats because of that alone... yet, they go shoe crazy over shit that is also "status". lol


kind of REALLY true

Sixx when you get them, can you please send me your review on them? I share thoughts of the products with the R&D and marketing teams to show them what the people who use them on the regular and often in real situations think about the products.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:48 PM - 2 March, 2012
Am I the only one here who perfers bulky heavy headphones (nm)
DJJorel 8:51 PM - 2 March, 2012
Has anyone tried the Beats Mixr headphones?

I liked the sound of the Pros but I also thought they were too heavy and bulky....
mikep 9:21 PM - 2 March, 2012
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I see that none of the "reviews" linked or quoted here include KOSS. I stillstand by them as the standard in studio and mobile. I guess they don't want to deal with the KOSS quality os lifetime warranty. I've had mine since the early '80's and they replaced them last year when I called about the plastic slide pieces breaking.


I have the TD\65 model. Sorry I haven't watched this thread in a bit.
I also got a pair of buds from KOSS last year and they sound great with good isolation.
They just came out with a new Pro model also. I have Sony and BOSE and go back to the KOSS.





Which model do you use mikep?
DjWoody 10:41 PM - 2 March, 2012
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Thanks DJWoody I heard of Sennheiserusa before I didn't relized they have different version of the Senns cost 300$ for the coiled original. I'll buy from guitar center though got a coupon now if anyone interested. So I get it for 170$ for the studio version.
guitarcenter.com for the coupon.
Anyone prefer the xone xd 53 over Senns?


GC should be able to order the coiled ones for you. There shouldn't be a big price difference.
DjSsx 6:15 PM - 3 March, 2012
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GC should be able to order the coiled ones for you. There shouldn't be a big price difference.

Will do man hd25 all day.

Check this out very interesting.
www.virtualdj.com
LilSwann 5:35 PM - 6 March, 2012
Having my Beats Pro come in this week sometime gonna give my own review when I get them and test them out a little.
Mr. Goodkat 5:47 PM - 6 March, 2012
pioneer hdj 2000s are too expensive and heavy, the 500s work fine but they will break if you abuse them.
LilSwann 5:19 PM - 15 March, 2012
still waiting on Sixxx's review lol
Kepik 6:02 PM - 15 March, 2012
I'll be starting my new career at Monster in a week. I have Pioneer HDJ-2000s but I have been curious about the Beats...
DVJ HURRICANE 12:50 AM - 18 March, 2012
i have a set of the HDJ 2000 the best i ever had they wont break .! ok where do i go to buy replacement drivers? i got the new 62 & blew them!! so mad at myself it was the 1st time i hook them up bam! thanks so much if anyone can shed some light on this ..
Kepik 1:23 AM - 18 March, 2012
How did your's blow? The headphone volume on the 62 has apparently been lowered.
DJWALDO 1:53 AM - 18 March, 2012
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i have a set of the HDJ 2000 the best i ever had they wont break .! ok where do i go to buy replacement drivers? i got the new 62 & blew them!! so mad at myself it was the 1st time i hook them up bam! thanks so much if anyone can shed some light on this ..



the hinges will break.... trust me
djnonstopla323 3:24 AM - 18 March, 2012
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pioneer hdj 2000s are too expensive and heavy, the 500s work fine but they will break if you abuse them.

the hdj 200 are not heavy if anything they really light and yeah they will break this is my second pair mines broke cuz one of my friends was djing drunk he drop them and someone stepped on them other than that i also love my xd53's
djnonstopla323 3:25 AM - 18 March, 2012
oh and about expensive they are but i got them from zzounds 4 payment plan
4mydawgz 1:34 PM - 3 April, 2012
Was thinking about buying the beats mixr as a second pair of head phones. Didnt want to put out $400 for the Pros. But after reading, I think i'll stick with my Sennheiser HD 25-1 II till something else comes. Just wish the name was a little shorter.
bicedidit 2:55 PM - 3 April, 2012
we do realize that with headphones, your paying for a FCUKING EQ SETTING, rite?

and the dres are super bass heavy from my interactions with them.

i had a pair of beyers that were pleasantly flat...but those broke shortly after.

i would never pay more than $100 for a pair of headphones that claim some sort of high sound quality. my $80 sonys have lasted 4 years and ive only replaced the pads once, at $15+/-. and they sound great
DJJorel 4:02 PM - 3 April, 2012
I've seen a more than a few DJs (a few of them pretty well known) now using Aerial7 Tank headphones...I wonder if they are just a marketing thing or if they are actually good...
echa1945mf 6:22 PM - 3 April, 2012
im using Reloop RHP -20 , pretty bad ass , good sound and durability ,not too bassy just enough , and you can crank it high without distorting


best of all.......... i got it for free yeaaaaaaaaah
Skeld 13 5:30 PM - 13 April, 2012
Hey guys.. what about DJCity and his MONSTRER PRO Headphones ?? i wanna know how they are working..
I Just Tested (2 months ago) the Beats Pro, Technics RP-DJ1200, Pioneer HDJ 2000) and i couldnt see the "MONSTER" Factor in Beats Pro... well construction and indestructibles but i just bought the HDJ-2000 light weight, outstanding sound Quality (i am an EDM DJ). i would like to know about the 1 year Review of DJCity about his Pro´s by Dre..
DjCity 6:17 PM - 13 April, 2012
Damn. I had not realized it's been about a year now that I've had the beats pros.

Them joints are still going strong. They still sound great and they for damn sure have not broken

A year later and i'm still impressed with them. They still look brand new. No wear on the pads at all. No scratches on the phones either.

The beats pros have proven to be good, durable, lasting headphones.

Anyone else wanna give their experiences?
Skeld 13 6:31 PM - 13 April, 2012
Interesting that i was here looking for reviews to compare my opinion with others oppinion about the HDJ 2000.

i found that the main of the EDM DJ´s uses Pioneer or Technics Headphones, and most of the other DJ´s uses many brands.

Beats Pros have a really nice Deep Bass, and an outstanding look and construction. but just couldnt feel that full Frecuencies in my ears when mixing..
DJWALDO 6:43 PM - 13 April, 2012
hdj 2000's break... wouldn't pay more than $150 for them.
djaction 6:45 PM - 13 April, 2012
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hdj 2000's break... wouldn't pay more than $150 for them.


everything breaks.

the HDJ 2000's SOUND great and weigh next to nothing.. no brainer
DJWALDO 6:49 PM - 13 April, 2012
not paying that kind of money every 8 months.... either have a full, no bs, no limit warranty or drop the damn price.
DjCity 6:53 PM - 13 April, 2012
Everything brakes.
I don't know. My beats pros might not.

They really are worth it. If you can get a pair on a discount, jump on them. They are expensive but they may very well be the last pair of headphones you ever buy.
Skeld 13 7:04 PM - 13 April, 2012
i dont see the point on "2000´s break" if you look on the internet you will find that Beats Pro got broken on the HeadBand.
maybe the 2000 breaks often.
but still.. i dont see the point...
i am happy if my headphones last a Year that is in my budget (30 bucks at month if you are organized with your finance).
i am not telling that Beats are Bad.. just say that Personally couldnt feel the superior Sound Quality over 2000´s. so i repeat i am EDM DJ (mostly Trance and Prog House)... i dont mix other kind of music.. for me is very important the Mids and highs as the Lows.. and the clean Frecuencies on my ears.. just my Oppinion.
djaction 7:19 PM - 13 April, 2012
the beats by pro are just too fucking heavy!
djaction 7:19 PM - 13 April, 2012
hdj200's you barely even notice they are on your head
DJJorel 7:54 PM - 13 April, 2012
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the beats by pro are just too fucking heavy!


They aren't too bad...unless you jump around all crazy like The Gaslamp Killer...

Watchwww.youtube.com
DjCity 7:59 PM - 13 April, 2012
All I can say is that i've had mine for about a year and I have had ZERO problems.

I gig 3 to 5 nights a week (sometimes 6 nights a week) and have used the same pair over the past year. I have NEVER had ANY problems or issues with them.

They are big, bulky and heavy but i'm used to them. The do have a LOT of bass but for me, that's a good thing.
djaction 8:00 PM - 13 April, 2012
just sayin for an 6+hour set i'd rather not have a heavy ass ton of bricks on my head :D
djnonstopla323 11:13 AM - 14 April, 2012
true the beats are not good for djing just my opinion they're are heavy if you're djing for more than 3 hours plus i don't like that they don't have a swivel .
dj shon g 1:00 PM - 14 April, 2012
The beats are definitely a pretty good pair of head phones
dj-freestyle 3:58 PM - 14 April, 2012
Just to throw in my two cents i have used them all and by far i like my denon headphones the best. 20 years of djing and they have lasted the longest and sound the best i think. just my opinion
DJ DisGrace 4:12 PM - 14 April, 2012
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Just to throw in my two cents i have used them all and by far i like my denon headphones the best. 20 years of djing and they have lasted the longest and sound the best i think. just my opinion

+1 my HP700 have done very well for the price
dj-freestyle 4:17 PM - 14 April, 2012
hp 1000 have been the best I've had and I've used tons over 20 years
DjCity 4:21 PM - 14 April, 2012
I loved my hp 1000's too.... until they broke.

I still have them. They are crazy glued and duck taped up.
WarpNote 6:39 PM - 14 April, 2012
Had HP1000, not really comfortable for me, and headband adjustment broke in about 3 months. Sennheiser HD25 the last 5 years, gigging once or twice a week, everyday use on commute. No issues, great sound, light weight, great isolation. Still the best pair available for DJ'ing IMO.
DJ Unique 6:53 PM - 14 April, 2012
I've tried various headphones but I have liked the HD25-1 II the most. The sound is a perfect match to my studio speakers. The bass is not overpowering and the mid & highs are very precise which I prefer for DJing..
DJ Remy USA 2:00 AM - 15 April, 2012
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Just to throw in my two cents i have used them all and by far i like my denon headphones the best. 20 years of djing and they have lasted the longest and sound the best i think. just my opinion

+1 my HP700 have done very well for the price


the highs end up making my ears hurt after about a hour of mixing, ears get fatigued and I end blasting the phones just hear the beats...I much prefer my in ears Bose IE2s for this reason only outside of that they are great headphones for the price
a DJ 7:31 AM - 15 April, 2012
I just read this whole thread. A lot of laughs, a lot of people not reading, a lot of stubborness, and a lot of good information.

Can anyone comment on how the ultrasone DJ1 pros compare to these headphones? I have the cheaper dj1s and I really like them. Ive had them for 4 years and theyre still fine, but the earpads are worn out so Im gonna buy some new headphones eventually. Im considering the sennheiser hd25s, the aiaiai's, the hdjs, and the beat pros. And the dj1 pros of course.

I wear glasses so the comfort and stability when in awkward positions is a big factor for me. I also like sound quality and bass though. I am leaning towards the sennheisers because they could replace my audio technica athm50s that I use to produce/monitor/check mixes with (not dj mixes but studio mixes). But I wouldnt mind exaggerated bass either, I dont need to use these for mixing. I will try to try all of these headphones, but the last time I went to my local guitar center they had taken away most of the headphones and were very reluctant to help me try any of them.
DJ GaFFle 3:52 PM - 15 April, 2012
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I just read this whole thread. A lot of laughs, a lot of people not reading, a lot of stubborness, and a lot of good information...
...But I wouldnt mind exaggerated bass either, I dont need to use these for mixing...

You want bass in your headphones? Look no further than the Beat Pro's.
Bass
Exaggerated
and
Tough as
Sh!t
Pro
djvtyme85 10:45 PM - 15 April, 2012
I still find limitations with dre's the bass isn't as deep as I would like but for the most part they get me by. I'm thinking of copping some mixr joints for gigs as their more comfortable. I like my pros for reviewing my mixes in able ton . Guess all this only matters depending on application.
DjCity 11:07 PM - 15 April, 2012
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I just read this whole thread. A lot of laughs, a lot of people not reading, a lot of stubborness, and a lot of good information...
...But I wouldnt mind exaggerated bass either, I dont need to use these for mixing...

You want bass in your headphones? Look no further than the Beat Pro's.
Bass
Exaggerated
and
Tough as
Sh!t
Pro


That's a hell of a lot of reading...
DJ GaFFle 12:14 AM - 16 April, 2012
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Quote:
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I just read this whole thread. A lot of laughs, a lot of people not reading, a lot of stubborness, and a lot of good information...
...But I wouldnt mind exaggerated bass either, I dont need to use these for mixing...

You want bass in your headphones? Look no further than the Beat Pro's.
Bass
Exaggerated
and
Tough as
Sh!t
Pro


That's a hell of a lot of reading...

I was bored.
DjCity 2:19 AM - 16 April, 2012
I just re-read the ENTIRE thread.

That was a long read but it was helpful and informative.

There was a lot of ignorance in this thread but a lot of good info and good people and a lot of good headphone choices.

it's been a year and i'm still happy with my Beats by Dre Pro's. I hope everyone is still happy with their choice,

I will be back in a few months to continue my review.
DJJorel 4:20 PM - 16 April, 2012
Headphones are probably the most personal thing for DJs...If it works for you, then great. The good thing is that since there are so many companies competing in this market segment, there are a lot of great choices...

I just wish it was the same situation with turntables...
Dj Locky 10:35 AM - 17 April, 2012
Sennheiser HD 25 for me all day had so many pairs of headphones over the years had nearly every companys headphones on my head & for me they are the best i bought mine over 10years ago n only had to replace the cable once now thats good going AS for the beats my dr dre great for a iphone or ipod as for djing no thanks well over priced for me.
Rick Hodgkins 10:56 AM - 17 April, 2012
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I tried the Beats Pro before. They sound great and they look durable. My only problem is that they're pretty heavy and the cups are bulky. Those two facts alone were a big turn off for me, otherwise I probably would've bought them.


Same here, it wasn't a cost factor at all.
I agree its a personal thing, but generally speaking Dj's are a cheap lot despite what they say.

I wonder how many ppl buy because of name recognition also, Dre is big as is Monster.

I did like the flip up design cause I have trouble riding them half on/off.
Ended up with the VModa CF's and very happy. Military grade is as durable as it gets imo.

In the studio I use a set of Bose Quiet Comfort phones, and the quiet comfort says it all.
As expensive, and not as durable, but wow. And I use them cause they sit in the case unless I am flying otherwise so why not...
DjCity 1:01 PM - 17 April, 2012
When I was considering, name had nothing to do with it. I would have been happier if they did not have Dre name.

I could care less about that stuff. What I cared about was quality and the beats pros are built like a tank. They sound great to me and I paid less than half price for them. A year later and i'm still happy with them and plan on being happy with them for years to come.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:25 PM - 17 April, 2012
What happened to sixxxs review
DjCity 1:36 PM - 17 April, 2012
Who knows....

Maybe he never got them.
LilSwann 3:28 PM - 17 April, 2012
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What happened to sixxxs review

I was wondering the same thing lol Sixxx where you at bro?
a DJ 8:51 AM - 19 April, 2012
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I could care less about that stuff. What I cared about was quality and the beats pros are built like a tank. They sound great to me and I paid less than half price for them. A year later and i'm still happy with them and plan on being happy with them for years to come.

Well most of us dont throw our headphones at people lol. I know a lot of DJs that complain about their gear breaking but for some reason I never had that problem much. I have only been DJing for 5 years tho.

Oh yeah I saw your post way back about how much you hated the big beats by dre on the headband. I was thinking you could try putting the serato stickers over it.
DjCity 11:34 AM - 19 April, 2012
Not a bad idea.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:50 PM - 19 April, 2012
Lol I GARENTEE that if the exact same headphones were made by rane and had SL instead of a dre logo half the people hatin on em would be blowin their kids college funds to get em
DjCity 2:17 PM - 19 April, 2012
NO BULLSHIT!!!
WarpNote 3:14 PM - 19 April, 2012
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Lol I GARENTEE that if the exact same headphones were made by rane and had SL instead of a dre logo half the people hatin on em would be blowin their kids college funds to get em

Not so sure about that, I don't think the Ortofon 120 needles were that much of a success?
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:41 PM - 19 April, 2012
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Lol I GARENTEE that if the exact same headphones were made by rane and had SL instead of a dre logo half the people hatin on em would be blowin their kids college funds to get em

Not so sure about that, I don't think the Ortofon 120 needles were that much of a success?



......umm dude...we dont discuss those here, didnt you get the memo, the ortofons NEVER HAPPENED lol jk....but if you remember a TON of people ran out to get those when they came out and there were endless threads of people claiming that they were acutuall y amasing needles but people were using them wrong, then countless threads of mcguyver/stephen hawkins ways to finagle them into kinda working
WarpNote 3:57 PM - 19 April, 2012
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didnt you get the memo

Guess I didn't ;-)
And I don't think that many actually bought them,
only the ones who came online complaining....
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:59 PM - 19 April, 2012
Lol, probably true lol
djjoefresh 4:50 PM - 19 April, 2012
I have used the TMA-1's for a few months now, and I love them, both for DJing and production. Very comfortable, impossible to break the headband (which I've done countless times with other headphones), and they really sound phenomenal.

I'm curious to hear how good the new Pioneer 1500s are.
DJYoshi 8:23 PM - 19 April, 2012
was with Panasonic marketing and engineers a few weeks ago... they're revamping the headphones... the demo line sounded pretty good... real crisp highs...
DJ GaFFle 9:26 PM - 19 April, 2012
Well
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When I was considering, name had nothing to do with it. I would have been happier if they did not have Dre name.

I could care less about that stuff. What I cared about was quality and the beats pros are built like a tank. They sound great to me and I paid less than half price for them. A year later and i'm still happy with them and plan on being happy with them for years to come.

Built like a tank is right. I'm thinking of selling mine farm8.staticflickr.com and sticking to my in-ears and HD25II's though. I've got a big head and these Beat Pros make it look even bigger.

(-:
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:33 PM - 19 April, 2012
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was with Panasonic marketing and engineers a few weeks ago... they're revamping the headphones... the demo line sounded pretty good... real crisp highs...



Dj yoshi hes where YOU wanna be lol
DJ Unique 10:06 PM - 1 May, 2012
Rusty Meeks 5:29 PM - 1 June, 2012
Let me give you the REAL lowdown on these bad boys. I picked up some HDJ-2000s in late 2011, then for christmas that year I received a pair of Beats Pro, so basically I was given 2 of the best (if not most expensive) DJ headphones you can get at the same time.

almost 6 months has gone by and I've had the chance to use both pairs of headphones in all kinds of different settings, from really loud nightclubs to house parties to the production studio... and I must say I really like them both, but THE WINNER.... is Pioneer HDJ-2000.

Pioneer HDJ-2000 pros: As far as comfort goes, Pioneer is top-notch. The Beats Pro squeeze my head just a little too much which makes them hard to wear for longer than 2-3 hours at a time. As far as sound quality goes, it's very very close between these 2.. but there is something in the bass frequency that seems to have more punch while remaining very clean in the HDJ-2000s. For that reason I prefer to produce with the HDJ-2000s. The chord on the HDJ-2000 is less stiff in the spring which makes it better for when you're moving around the DJ booth because it doesn't get snagged on anything, whereas the Beats Pro have a stiffer spring that can get stuck on corners etc.

Beats Pro by Dre pros: Beats Pro cup around the ear a bit more and block out a little bit more external sound so you don't have to turn them up as loud when you have loud monitor speakers right behind you. The fold-up design of Beats Pro is really cool and easier to fold.. everytime I fold up my HDJ-2000s I feel like I might break them because you have to bend them a bit to get the cups in. Another feature I really like with the Beats Pro is that you can choose which side you want the cord coming out and it's easy to switch, whereas HDJ-2000s have the cord coming out of the left side only. Beats Pro definitely look the coolest, the HDJ-2000s look fairly generic despite their amazingness.

At the end of the day, both these headphones are at the top of the game and you'd be lucky to have either. In the past I've had Technics headphones, Sonys, and AKGs (all top of the line) and Pioneer HDJ-2000s and Beats Pro by Dre are significantly better.

Conclusion: Unless you're really worried about looking a bit more cool, GET THE HDJ-2000s!!!!
DJ Unique 5:42 PM - 1 June, 2012
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Let me give you the REAL lowdown on these bad boys. I picked up some HDJ-2000s in late 2011, then for christmas that year I received a pair of Beats Pro, so basically I was given 2 of the best (if not most expensive) DJ headphones you can get at the same time.

almost 6 months has gone by and I've had the chance to use both pairs of headphones in all kinds of different settings, from really loud nightclubs to house parties to the production studio... and I must say I really like them both, but THE WINNER.... is Pioneer HDJ-2000.

Pioneer HDJ-2000 pros: As far as comfort goes, Pioneer is top-notch. The Beats Pro squeeze my head just a little too much which makes them hard to wear for longer than 2-3 hours at a time. As far as sound quality goes, it's very very close between these 2.. but there is something in the bass frequency that seems to have more punch while remaining very clean in the HDJ-2000s. For that reason I prefer to produce with the HDJ-2000s. The chord on the HDJ-2000 is less stiff in the spring which makes it better for when you're moving around the DJ booth because it doesn't get snagged on anything, whereas the Beats Pro have a stiffer spring that can get stuck on corners etc.

Beats Pro by Dre pros: Beats Pro cup around the ear a bit more and block out a little bit more external sound so you don't have to turn them up as loud when you have loud monitor speakers right behind you. The fold-up design of Beats Pro is really cool and easier to fold.. everytime I fold up my HDJ-2000s I feel like I might break them because you have to bend them a bit to get the cups in. Another feature I really like with the Beats Pro is that you can choose which side you want the cord coming out and it's easy to switch, whereas HDJ-2000s have the cord coming out of the left side only. Beats Pro definitely look the coolest, the HDJ-2000s look fairly generic despite their amazingness.

At the end of the day, both these headphones are at the top of the game and you'd be lucky to have either. In the past I've had Technics headphones, Sonys, and AKGs (all top of the line) and Pioneer HDJ-2000s and Beats Pro by Dre are significantly better.

Conclusion: Unless you're really worried about looking a bit more cool, GET THE HDJ-2000s!!!!

HaHaHa...
You have posted the same exact thing in various discussions about headphones.
Rusty Meeks 5:29 PM - 4 June, 2012
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Let me give you the REAL lowdown on these bad boys. I picked up some HDJ-2000s in late 2011, then for christmas that year I received a pair of Beats Pro, so basically I was given 2 of the best (if not most expensive) DJ headphones you can get at the same time.

almost 6 months has gone by and I've had the chance to use both pairs of headphones in all kinds of different settings, from really loud nightclubs to house parties to the production studio... and I must say I really like them both, but THE WINNER.... is Pioneer HDJ-2000.

Pioneer HDJ-2000 pros: As far as comfort goes, Pioneer is top-notch. The Beats Pro squeeze my head just a little too much which makes them hard to wear for longer than 2-3 hours at a time. As far as sound quality goes, it's very very close between these 2.. but there is something in the bass frequency that seems to have more punch while remaining very clean in the HDJ-2000s. For that reason I prefer to produce with the HDJ-2000s. The chord on the HDJ-2000 is less stiff in the spring which makes it better for when you're moving around the DJ booth because it doesn't get snagged on anything, whereas the Beats Pro have a stiffer spring that can get stuck on corners etc.

Beats Pro by Dre pros: Beats Pro cup around the ear a bit more and block out a little bit more external sound so you don't have to turn them up as loud when you have loud monitor speakers right behind you. The fold-up design of Beats Pro is really cool and easier to fold.. everytime I fold up my HDJ-2000s I feel like I might break them because you have to bend them a bit to get the cups in. Another feature I really like with the Beats Pro is that you can choose which side you want the cord coming out and it's easy to switch, whereas HDJ-2000s have the cord coming out of the left side only. Beats Pro definitely look the coolest, the HDJ-2000s look fairly generic despite their amazingness.

At the end of the day, both these headphones are at the top of the game and you'd be lucky to have either. In the past I've had Technics headphones, Sonys, and AKGs (all top of the line) and Pioneer HDJ-2000s and Beats Pro by Dre are significantly better.

Conclusion: Unless you're really worried about looking a bit more cool, GET THE HDJ-2000s!!!!

HaHaHa...
You have posted the same exact thing in various discussions about headphones.


haha yup! thats how passionate I am that HDJ-2000s are the best headphones in the game!
bicedidit 5:34 PM - 4 June, 2012
so i got the studio beats by dre...

they should be called 'mud by dre'

my $70 sonys sound a lot better.

way to much low end. i cant imagine anyone actually mixing a record with these.

plus, i spend $300 and only get a 4 foot cable.....? seriously?

anyone wanna buy mud by dre for $300?
the_black_one 5:36 PM - 4 June, 2012
Lol @ mud by dre
bicedidit 5:38 PM - 4 June, 2012
ohhh, i meant $200 btw
DjCity 6:18 PM - 4 June, 2012
The studio beats by dre SUCK!!!
DJ_MALO 5:00 PM - 17 June, 2012
I've had the privilege to use multiple types of headphones including the HDJ-2000's. Im looking to buy new cans as well. I must say that the HDJ-2000's sound fantastic and are extremely comfortable. They are the most comfortable I've ever used. But, they do look very generic, which sucks. If I get them Im looking into getting them customized to white. Their are new Beats by Dre headphones out that are the David Guetta editions that do swivel for one ear comfort. I'd like to test those out and they are about $249. And as far as the Sennheiser's go they do have great sound, but they are so ugly I would never wear them. Ill post on how the Beats by Dre Pro David Guetta editions are later today.
DJWALDO 12:56 AM - 18 June, 2012
they are called the mixr... not pro not david guetta edition. they sound just fine. have them in white. extreme tight fitting. swivel is nice however the mechanism that allows for cup to band length adjustment is fairly loose which depending on how you use them can get annoying to re adjust multiple times....
djvtyme85 2:10 AM - 18 June, 2012
But how is the sound compared to the regular PRO? I'm thinking of making these my gig phones bc the Pros are so heavy and I like to use them more in the studio bc of the weight factor.
DJMark 2:17 AM - 18 June, 2012
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And as far as the Sennheiser's go they do have great sound, but they are so ugly I would never wear them. .


This is just plain weird.

Not only are the Sennheisers not "ugly" (just plain and utilitarian), they're far superior to the Pioneer or (LOL LOL LOL) "Beats" headphones. And weigh a hell of a lot less (kind of matters for something you might be wearing for several hours).

Maybe someone should spraypaint them with white metallic gloss, paste on some rhinestones and blue tassles, call them the "Nicki Minaj Hooptie Hoops" and double the price for the "DJ's" more concerned with "looks" than sound. LOL.
djvtyme85 5:56 AM - 18 June, 2012
i agree the Sennheisers are not a attractive piece of gear. sorry but look does play a big part in my opinion. if it wasnt for faceplates for the my turntables i would've not brought my mk5 even though the deal was sweet just because i hated the silver color.
DjCity 11:26 AM - 18 June, 2012
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I do not like the look of the senns but I agree that they are great headphones.
bicedidit 1:54 PM - 18 June, 2012
i just got the technics rp-dh 1200 headphones with swivel cups. sound pretty good. def sound better than the Mud by Dre. but as far as a flat frequency response, my sony MDR V-6 and sony MDR 700 sound better IMO
bicedidit 1:55 PM - 18 June, 2012
and the sonys a re a lot cheaper
Dj Nyce 7:22 PM - 17 September, 2012
just got the pio HDJ-2000K (black ones). i love them so far. quick question to anyone who has them. any tips on one ear monitoring? when i took one ear off with my old cans, i moved the one that's off towards the front of my head.

with the pio's it doesn't seem that is the proper way because of the swivel. it seems like you should move the off ear toward the rear of your head.

also when one ear shoulder monitoring are you supposed to rotate the off ear cup all the around so that it's facing outside?

thx
DJ Jonasty 9:50 PM - 17 September, 2012
18 months on my AIAIAI's and I couldn't be happier, best cans ever mane
DJ GaFFle 3:22 PM - 18 September, 2012
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just got the pio HDJ-2000K (black ones). i love them so far. ...

Those look pretty fly. What price did you get them for and where?
Niro 3:40 PM - 18 September, 2012
I actually like the look of the Senn HD25. They don't look like every other DJ headphone, I guess after so many years of the big silver sony-ish style, I got over it.

So every stand here in Bali has knock Beats, all models and even some ones that look better than the originals. They go for around $20-30, so be careful when you buy beats now. This also means the knock offs are being produced in a big way, last year I saw a few in Thailand, but this year they're everywhere and soon will be on everyone.
Dj Nyce 5:11 PM - 18 September, 2012
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just got the pio HDJ-2000K (black ones). i love them so far. ...

Those look pretty fly. What price did you get them for and where?


$245 new from amazon.com. the price fluctuates so i just added it to my cart and i kept getting notified when the price changed. saw $245 and pulled the trigger. Amazon Prime ftw!

as for the knock offs, they are getting pretty good with Pioneer and Beats. i highly recommend buying these new rather than used. and don't bother with ebay. it'll be hit or miss whether you are getting a genuine pair.
DJ GaFFle 5:22 PM - 18 September, 2012
Thanx... I was thinking Amazon too.
antimatter 7:26 AM - 21 September, 2012
My beloved technics rp-dh 1200's finally craped out after 6+ years. So I decied to audition some closed back and open backed headphones that were a step up in the mid-fi category. The open back's sounded better to me but kept interfering wit the monitor too much for me to purchase. The 5 closed back headphones I tried were the Beats pro, hdj 2000, AKG K500, Denon D-2000, and the ultrasone pro 900.
#5:The beats pro were built sturdy so I thought I would like them as I am usually kind of rough on my headphones. Things went downhill pretty fast after that. The clamp on my head was so tight that it hurt my head after only a few songs. The sound coming out of them was atrociously bass heavy and craped all over the mids and highs. I think you can find $100 headphones that sound better. The pleather ear cups are the worst too causting ear sweat almost immeadiately. If you bought these headphones return immeadiatly.
#4: The pioneer hdj-2000's felt quite flimsy to me. Structurally speaking they are the weakest out of the 5. The sound out of them is too neutral IMO. They have no flavoor. Everything sounds good but nothing sounds great either. They are quite comfortable and felt very light on my head with nice earcups as well. Nice headphone but I dont think they will last the average DJ more than 2 years tops.
#3: The AKG 550 is built very sturdy. Nice strong clamp but not anywhere near as strong as the beats. The sound out them is very clear and accurate. Very thin mid-bass and sub-bass left kindof bad taste in my mouth. If you are a fan of the mid forward sound and treble these are the headphones for you. Comfort level is average with fatigue sitting in at about an hour.
#2: The Denon/Fostex D-2000 is average at best in build quality. Flimsy feeling like the pio. The sound makes up for that quite a bit though. Its that fun, warm denon signiture sound that made me come back to these headphones and made me buy a LA-D2000 from Lawton Audio. They are the slowest headphones of the bunch though. Their comfort is the best out of the 5 headphones I tested as well. Even though they're heavy you can wear them for hours and not know they are on your head. Really nice headphone except for the build quality which is why I cant say they're #1 stock and why I also recommend getting a modded pair from Lawton Audio.
#1: The ultrasone Pro 900 is hands down the clear cut winner here if you like techno. At first I thought it was weak feeling as it's very light, but its made out very tough durable rubber and plastic with the easily scratched back cup being their biggest flaw. They make up for that with the best DETACHABLE VELOUR earcups. Once you realize how crapy pleather is u wont go back trust me. The sound cannot be put into words. If you are a techno fan you have, and I mean have to listen to these headphones. The mid bass kicks you hard and the sub bass is perfectly tuned not to overshadow any of the mids that are recessed but very well detailed or the highs which sparkle but can come in hot sometimes. They are extremely fast, but with ten times better encoders now a days thats not a problem anymore. The problems with the sound on these headphones is that the drivers are made out of titanium and require a trmendous amount of burn-in 200+hours to get to their true potential. They also require a headphone amp but a cheap cmoy or fiio will definitly suffice. Their comfort level is 2nd but only after a Sennheiser hd650 headband pad change otherwise it's the pios. They also hands down have the best packaging giving the customer a free travel case, 2 cables (one labtop, one dj with an awesome neutrick plug), and an extra $50 set of earcups. By far and away the best stock dj headphone in the $3-400 price range.
antimatter 7:43 AM - 21 September, 2012
Also the Senn hd 25ii's or the ultrasone dj pro 1's beat both the beats and pios if you are on a budget. I cant understand why people on here are obsessed with the looks of the hd 25. Thats sooo freakin stupid. Also have you seen the adidas version? Sick looking and probably the sexiest headphone out there.
antimatter 7:54 AM - 21 September, 2012
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18 months on my AIAIAI's and I couldn't be happier, best cans ever mane

TMA-1's? That's a great headphone. V-moda's m-100 shuld be out soon another great contender I'm sure.
Dj Nyce 5:25 PM - 21 September, 2012
the senn hd 25II sound amazing but are butt ugly (personal opinion). i care about looks. thats the reason why i shave, buy nice clothes and drive a nice whip.

AIAIAI TMA-1 are also another dope headphone. def top 3.
DjCity 5:44 PM - 21 September, 2012
The pair I use the most right now are the AIAIAI TMA1's

I still love my beats pro's but I got tired of them. The TMA1's are comfortable, sound great and look good.

Dj Nyce... I'm with you on the senn 25II's. They sound really good but to me, they ugly as hell.
I made a comment about that somewhere early in this thread and was told...
They are headphones, not a fashion statement.

To me, EVERYTHING is a fashion statement. Guess it's a NYC thing.
the_black_one 6:28 PM - 21 September, 2012
When did you guys become the fucking fashion police? GO FY!!!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:30 PM - 21 September, 2012
......wheres that review sixxx promised at?
antimatter 9:38 PM - 21 September, 2012
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the senn hd 25II sound amazing but are butt ugly (personal opinion). i care about looks. thats the reason why i shave, buy nice clothes and drive a nice whip.



AIAIAI TMA-1 are also another dope headphone. def top 3.

Have you seen the adidas version?! That blue on them is sick as hell mang!
antimatter 9:53 PM - 21 September, 2012
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The pair I use the most right now are the AIAIAI TMA1's



I still love my beats pro's but I got tired of them. The TMA1's are comfortable, sound great and look good.



Dj Nyce... I'm with you on the senn 25II's. They sound really good but to me, they ugly as hell.

I made a comment about that somewhere early in this thread and was told...

They are headphones, not a fashion statement.



To me, EVERYTHING is a fashion statement. Guess it's a NYC thing.

STUPID! sorry. Has anyone heard the ultrasone pro900? Definitly the clear cut winner here. They do look kindof cheap but I think that keeps their theft rate down. Anyone thought of that?! And forget about sixxx review I know I've tried more headphones than him/her.
DjCity 2:32 AM - 22 September, 2012
To each his/her own.

I like to look good in everything I do, wear, drive and own.

Wear whatever you like.
Niro 3:49 AM - 22 September, 2012
I personally like the way the HD 25II's look on me, they don't look big. I have both the regular and adidas edition, I wish they would sell the white velour hads seperately. And yes, I think looks are important, not just what the headphones look like, but what they look like on you.
antimatter 5:53 AM - 22 September, 2012
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To each his/her own.



I like to look good in everything I do, wear, drive and own.



Wear whatever you like.

You right. I just cant understand why someone would go for looks over functionality when there is an incredibly big difference in quality. I also honestly feel that that headphones are the most important part of a dj's rig. Even the most spoiled of us dj's that play at the nicest clubs usually have to bring two things, and thats needles and headphones. The needle disscussion is just such a moot point to me. If you want portable get an ortofon pro concorde, if you wanna bedroom dj get a 447. If you want somthin fancier get a nightclub E, or an OM pank. Disscussion over. Its not really gonna make a dif. anyway unless u throw allot of real vinyl into mix anyway. Headphones however yah there's a ton of them and they can sound way diiferent.
antimatter 6:05 AM - 22 September, 2012
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I personally like the way the HD 25II's look on me, they don't look big. I have both the regular and adidas edition, I wish they would sell the white velour hads seperately. And yes, I think looks are important, not just what the headphones look like, but what they look like on you.

Isn't the velour nice. There are some decent pleather pads out there but they dont touch the velour or real leather.
antimatter 6:11 AM - 22 September, 2012
If your really into how your headphones look you should check out www.lawtonaudio.com. Very functional as well as beautiful.
antimatter 6:31 AM - 22 September, 2012
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wasn't impressed with the dre's hdj 2000 are ok sennheiser hd25s are the shizzle ;) and as you are prone to breaking headphones all parts are raplaceable nd easy to change



oh and nothing comes close for sound isolation with the hd25's

Best parts department in the biz. Parts are very cheap too.
the_black_one 8:05 AM - 22 September, 2012
blah blah blah......
antimatter 8:06 AM - 22 September, 2012
Ok mr. city and nyce you have to answer this question honestly. Do you trim your pubes? PUBE TRIMMERS!!!!! Dre and pioneer should colaberate and come out wit some sissors next.
DJ GOOK 9:31 PM - 22 September, 2012
I got my pio hdj 2000 from pro audio star. Call them and you will get a great price. To answer your qustion Nyce if you do the shoulder thing, turn the cup all away around, and for whether you should put the one ear piece in front or behind its really how comfortable you feel, sometimes I just turn the one ear piece all away around the whole night
DjCity 9:57 PM - 22 September, 2012
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To each his/her own.



I like to look good in everything I do, wear, drive and own.



Wear whatever you like.

You right. I just cant understand why someone would go for looks over functionality when there is an incredibly big difference in quality. I also honestly feel that that headphones are the most important part of a dj's rig. Even the most spoiled of us dj's that play at the nicest clubs usually have to bring two things, and thats needles and headphones. The needle disscussion is just such a moot point to me. If you want portable get an ortofon pro concorde, if you wanna bedroom dj get a 447. If you want somthin fancier get a nightclub E, or an OM pank. Disscussion over. Its not really gonna make a dif. anyway unless u throw allot of real vinyl into mix anyway. Headphones however yah there's a ton of them and they can sound way diiferent.


I would never go for looks over functionality. I do my best to get both.
Personally, I don't really like how the beats pro's look. (Princess Leah) I like how they perform and love the construction.
I like how the TMA-1's look and I love how they sound.
My techs look good, my mixer looks good, my ns6 and ns7 look great (see profile pic). My macbooks look fantastic.

For all haters, is not my fault if you don't care about you look or how your gear looks.
You ain't taking no food off my table, no money out my bank account so maybe you should eat your own shit and GO FY
Alcane 10:46 PM - 22 September, 2012
For the love of god, please just buy Sennheiser HD25 headphones and save yourself hundreds of dollars.

I've been a DJ for fourteen years, and mine have lasted me for the past ten (and are still going).
Having played frequently every month in clubs since 2000, my headphones definitely take a pounding, not to mention forgetful colleagues always asking to use mine (which results in them getting caned for 5-6 hours, at high volumes).

The only cash I've had to shell out is for new ear pads (sweat will deteriorate them over time) and a new cable three years ago, which instantly made them sound brand new again.

Do the sensible thing!
Dj Nyce 4:42 AM - 23 September, 2012
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Ok mr. city and nyce you have to answer this question honestly. Do you trim your pubes? PUBE TRIMMERS!!!!! Dre and pioneer should colaberate and come out wit some sissors next.


once a year
antimatter 5:49 AM - 23 September, 2012
I dont get it. How do you like the TMA 1's and say the HD25's are too ugly. They look and sound allot alike. Personally I would go with the senn's because of their unparralled parts depot. Anywho anyone seen the new ultrasone signiture DJ? Looks really awesome so far.
Niro 7:45 AM - 23 September, 2012
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Ok mr. city and nyce you have to answer this question honestly. Do you trim your pubes? PUBE TRIMMERS!!!!! Dre and pioneer should colaberate and come out wit some sissors next.


Doesn't everyone trim their pubes and you use clippers. Scissors would take too long. If you don't I highly suggest it, imagine if your chick didn't trim.
WarpNote 9:25 AM - 23 September, 2012
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I dont get it. How do you like the TMA 1's and say the HD25's are too ugly. They look and sound allot alike. Personally I would go with the senn's because of their unparralled parts depot. Anywho anyone seen the new ultrasone signiture DJ? Looks really awesome so far.

+1 and +1
Love my 2 pairs oh HD25, and those new Ultra Signature DJ phones does look interesting.
Hefty price tag though...
antimatter 10:28 AM - 23 September, 2012
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For the love of god, please just buy Sennheiser HD25 headphones and save yourself hundreds of dollars.



I've been a DJ for fourteen years, and mine have lasted me for the past ten (and are still going).

Having played frequently every month in clubs since 2000, my headphones definitely take a pounding, not to mention forgetful colleagues always asking to use mine (which results in them getting caned for 5-6 hours, at high volumes).



The only cash I've had to shell out is for new ear pads (sweat will deteriorate them over time) and a new cable three years ago, which instantly made them sound brand new again.



Do the sensible thing!

And it was probly easy and cheap as hell to replace your earpads and and cable. The TMA 1's are a solid purchase but if you haven't bought either go wit the senn's
antimatter 11:00 AM - 23 September, 2012
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To each his/her own.







I like to look good in everything I do, wear, drive and own.







Wear whatever you like.


You right. I just cant understand why someone would go for looks over functionality when there is an incredibly big difference in quality. I also honestly feel that that headphones are the most important part of a dj's rig. Even the most spoiled of us dj's that play at the nicest clubs usually have to bring two things, and thats needles and headphones. The needle disscussion is just such a moot point to me. If you want portable get an ortofon pro concorde, if you wanna bedroom dj get a 447. If you want somthin fancier get a nightclub E, or an OM pank. Disscussion over. Its not really gonna make a dif. anyway unless u throw allot of real vinyl into mix anyway. Headphones however yah there's a ton of them and they can sound way diiferent.




I would never go for looks over functionality. I do my best to get both.

Personally, I don't really like how the beats pro's look. (Princess Leah) I like how they perform and love the construction.

I like how the TMA-1's look and I love how they sound.

My techs look good, my mixer looks good, my ns6 and ns7 look great (see profile pic). My macbooks look fantastic.



For all haters, is not my fault if you don't care about you look or how your gear looks.

You ain't taking no food off my table, no money out my bank account so maybe you should eat your own shit and GO FY

Ok well I thought you did get the beats pro because of the looks. If you like the bass out of the beats pro, their main featrure, listen to a pro 9 and hear what REAL bass, also their main feature, is supposed to sound like. Im just hopin you will give them a chance because I honestly think they look bad. Their sound sooooo makes up for their looks though. I do think you will like the looks of the signiture DJ's though. Much sleeker and have REAL lambskin leather headband and earcups. Probably my next headphone way down the road.
antimatter 11:15 AM - 23 September, 2012
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Ok mr. city and nyce you have to answer this question honestly. Do you trim your pubes? PUBE TRIMMERS!!!!! Dre and pioneer should colaberate and come out wit some sissors next.




Doesn't everyone trim their pubes and you use clippers. Scissors would take too long. If you don't I highly suggest it, imagine if your chick didn't trim.

Im just sayin if your gonna let looks get in the way of your headphone purchase. Where does it end?
Probably wit some pioneer by dre pube clippers/scissors. I use some $5 fiskars wit some plastic nibs on the end. Clippers scare me down there for some reason.
DJ GaFFle 2:42 PM - 23 September, 2012
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I dont get it. How do you like the TMA 1's and say the HD25's are too ugly. They look and sound allot alike. Personally I would go with the senn's because of their unparralled parts depot. Anywho anyone seen the new ultrasone signiture DJ? Looks really awesome so far.

+1 and +1
Love my 2 pairs oh HD25, and those new Ultra Signature DJ phones does look interesting.
Hefty price tag though...

Ultrasone has too many fly-by-night models for me... they're constantly coming out with a different model unlike some of the other manufacturers which makes a case for designs like the HD-25 Senns. They're consistent, solidly built and yes, parts are very prevalent.

$1299 for a Ultrasone Signature Pro??? ... yeah right. The DJ version probably isn't far behind in price. I'm also not a fan of their appearance: www.head-fi.org as they 'look' like a $50 Skullcandy headphone.

I may have mentioned it earlier but I sold my Beats Pros. They were absolutely great for iPods and computer listening as they sounded VERY full and bassy. Most computer and iPod outputs make other headphones sound somewhat thin but not the Beat Pros. My issue was they looked huge on my head, the earcups were uncomfortable even after short periods and I got tired of seeing people wearing them as a fashion statement. If Monster redesigned them correcting their fitment and excessive bass, I'd buy them again as they're the most solidly built headphones out there.
DjCity 2:45 PM - 23 September, 2012
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Ok well I thought you did get the beats pro because of the looks. If you like the bass out of the beats pro, their main featrure, listen to a pro 9 and hear what REAL bass, also their main feature, is supposed to sound like. Im just hopin you will give them a chance because I honestly think they look bad. Their sound sooooo makes up for their looks though. I do think you will like the looks of the signiture DJ's though. Much sleeker and have REAL lambskin leather headband and earcups. Probably my next headphone way down the road.


Why would you think I got the beats pro's cause of how they look?

They are very bass heavy but for me, that was a plus. The isolation was another plus. To me and IMO, I liked the sound of them for the type of venues I play in and the type of music I play. They worked well and NO OTHER HEADPHONE is built like them.

What is a pro 9? What is the signature DJ?


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I dont get it. How do you like the TMA 1's and say the HD25's are too ugly. They look and sound allot alike. Personally I would go with the senn's because of their unparralled parts depot. Anywho anyone seen the new ultrasone signiture DJ? Looks really awesome so far.


The TMA-1's have a more solid (less moving parts) construction. The cable is routed through the band so it's not exposed all the way through like the senns. The rubberized texture of the TMA-1's also look and feel better to me than the senns and to my ear, they sound better. It's just simply a neater build design.


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Ok mr. city and nyce you have to answer this question honestly. Do you trim your pubes? PUBE TRIMMERS!!!!!


Yes. as a matter o fact, I do trim my pubes.
WarpNote 4:00 PM - 23 September, 2012
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What is a pro 9?
www.ultrasone.com

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What is the signature DJ?
www.head-fi.org

@GaFFle
Ultrasone is known for sound quality on a high level, hence the price. Not saying the price is justified just yet, will have to try them, to make up my own mind about sound & build.
HiFi quality cans in general does come at a premium price. When it comes to "bread & butter" cans, the HD25 will be my choice for the foreseeable future. As a music collector, besides DJ'ing, I have a strong desire to listen to music, and the better the sound, the better the experience. Maybe they look like a pair cheap Scullcandy in the phtos, I never payed much attention to Scullcandy, so I couldnt tell. A colleague of mine is a contemporary music composer, and use his Ultrasones a lot for "headphone monotoring", and those cans look anything but cheap up close.
WarpNote 4:06 PM - 23 September, 2012
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"headphone monotoring"
headphone monitoring....
Dj Nyce 4:14 PM - 23 September, 2012
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I dont get it. How do you like the TMA 1's and say the HD25's are too ugly. They look and sound allot alike. Personally I would go with the senn's because of their unparralled parts depot. Anywho anyone seen the new ultrasone signiture DJ? Looks really awesome so far.


the reason that i think the HD25's are ugly is because of the band.

and i agree that you shouldn't sacrifice sound, quality over looks. you should aim for a balance of all. and for me that balance was with the pioneer.

if i want to hear the fly landing on Ringo's snare during Hey Jude i'll pop out my shure se535's but when i'm dj'ing its the HDJ-2000K or TMA-1's.
antimatter 1:10 AM - 24 September, 2012
Coo Coo I like the TMA 1's as well. I really think the sig DJ's are going to be the end all King of dj headphones though. They're kind of pricey, you can preorder them for $699 but I bet by this time next year you could find an amazon warehouse deal or somthin fo around $599. Nobody should complain about the Pro 900's price though. I got mine shiped to me for less than $350 and while they need a portable headphone amp you get so many freebees when you buyem it easily makes up for the amp. Also Dj gaffle nobody pays $1299 for the sig pro. You can get them brand new for $850 which is common among the hi-fi headphones(bigger price,bigger discount). I also never saw a pair of skullcandy's wraped in real lambskin leather. I do agree with you on ultasone when it comes to their edition series headphones (ed. 8,9,and 10) though they stink. Edition 9's are soso and hard to get. Also for the love of Jesus dont get any of the new denon beats inspired headphones. Fostex and denon had a falling out and are now doing headphones seperatly. The old Fostex/denon (d-2000,d-5000,d-7000) smoke the the new d-400,d-600,d7100 line in every concievable way. The d-600 is the only one that shows any promise and there's still way better purchases. Fostex has an awesome TH-900 out but its $1750 on a good day. I would really love to see a TH-5 or 700 without the expensive laquer process.
DJ Dub Cowboy 4:47 AM - 24 September, 2012
I'm a TMA1 lover and trimmer.

I have 2 pairs and they are so solid. I love the sound. I love the feel. I'll probably pick up some studio ear pads. They feel so good.

The service is great on the AIAIAIs too. I emailed about replacing my carry bag and they sent a new one from Denmark in less than a week, no charge.

I'm not gentle with my cans either. I'll throw them down like a football if I'm feeling it. That is why I went with the TMA-1s, that is what they are designed for.
DJ Dub Cowboy 4:48 AM - 24 September, 2012
Oh, I'm going on 2 years with my first pair and they are in perfect condition. I couldn't get any Pioneer, Sony, or Technics cans to come close to that.
Alcane 8:13 AM - 24 September, 2012
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And it was probly easy and cheap as hell to replace your earpads and and cable. The TMA 1's are a solid purchase but if you haven't bought either go wit the senn's


Yes, very simple.

The point people seem to be missing is that we're DJs not models, so headphones we use need to be robust and maintainable - not to look cool!

Technics decks are what they are because the perform under the rigors of a club environment, and HD25's are the same. Its true that it is entirely down to personal preference, but if you are indeed serious about mixing you surely want an industry standard product - like Technics for turntables, Shure SM58 for a stage performance mic, etc.

I just can't believe that there are serious DJs on this forum that consider buying a product which is endorsed by a hip-hop producer, who frankly makes shit pop music now. In fact I don't ever recall Dr Dre ever being seen mixing, scratching or doing anything remotely DJ-orientated the 20-odd years I've been listening to hip-hop!

The Sennheisers are used in a number of professional applications in the media (not to mention being seen on most of the world's top DJs) for a reason. Most cases where another make are used is because the DJ or celebrity in question is being PAID to endorse other headphones.

I have literally seen the staff at Rub-A-Dub records in Glasgow take a new pair out the box, and drop to the hard floor and stand on them to prove their strength and sturdyness. I would do the same to mine to prove that point.

Could you say the same about your style headphones?...
antimatter 8:22 AM - 24 September, 2012
The beats by dre fleshlight. Now there's a million dollar idea. Pros: The bass makes it better than the real thing. Cons: All you hear is bass.
DJ GaFFle 9:04 AM - 24 September, 2012
Dr. Dre was a dj in the early and mid 80's. Edumacate yourself and look him up... the mixtapes and videos.
antimatter 10:37 AM - 24 September, 2012
Thats still a long ass time ago.
WarpNote 10:54 AM - 24 September, 2012
Agree on what Alcane says.
Have friend, he is a cameraman, shooting mostly outdoors in nature. Lots of mountain and ski events. He once mistakenly caught the HD 25 standard-cable in the ski lift and was pulled a good 15 meters with his camera rig, before the cable snapped. Pretty good testament to quality if you ask me.

Then again, get whatever works for you.
Personally, I like the HD25 look, recent the Beats look, and most other flashy ones as well.
latindj 4:19 PM - 24 September, 2012
Hi. Is this where I come for info. on how to trim my pubes? Thanks.
DJJorel 10:01 PM - 24 September, 2012
Why should anyone care what headphones other people are using?

If you are rockin Skullcandy Lakers headphones because you like how they look, then that's on you. If you wear Beatport TMA-1s because DJ Vice is using them, then that's your prerogative. If you like the Senns because they have great isolation, then good for you.

If you sift through all the crap...there is actually some good information on this massive thread...

As for personal grooming? That's another matter....that's just good hygiene...
DJMark 10:27 PM - 24 September, 2012
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I actually like the look of the Senn HD25.


So do I.

Less is more.
latindj 10:45 PM - 24 September, 2012
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I actually like the look of the Senn HD25.




So do I.



Less is more.


wait...less pubic hair or what exactly?
DJJorel 11:14 PM - 24 September, 2012
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wait...less pubic hair or what exactly?


Only married dudes rock the bro fro...
DJMark 11:19 PM - 24 September, 2012
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wait...less pubic hair or what exactly?


Shave them and make a "furry" version of the HD-25.

Someone would buy it I'm sure...
DJMark 11:21 PM - 24 September, 2012
For a small extra cost, you could buy the special Tiesto/Avicii/Whoever Signature Pube Edition.

There, has this thread gone as low as it can go now?
reggae delgado 11:26 PM - 24 September, 2012
Had an awesome headphone failure at the club this weekend... doin an all 45s set, as if that didn't challenge me enough, my Sony's fell apart & one of the cans landed on the mixer! (the other stayed innocently on the side of my head). Anyway, I was that surprised that my standby MDR 700s are no longer made (and surprised that I hadn't noticed it yet). FInally gave me an excuse to try the TMA-1s, I've heard nothing but good things from folks I respect. I'll let ya'll know what I think after gigs this weekend...
antimatter 6:26 AM - 25 September, 2012
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Had an awesome headphone failure at the club this weekend... doin an all 45s set, as if that didn't challenge me enough, my Sony's fell apart & one of the cans landed on the mixer! (the other stayed innocently on the side of my head). Anyway, I was that surprised that my standby MDR 700s are no longer made (and surprised that I hadn't noticed it yet). FInally gave me an excuse to try the TMA-1s, I've heard nothing but good things from folks I respect. I'll let ya'll know what I think after gigs this weekend...

Try a Ultrasone pro 750 or 900 before you make a final decision. Just make sure they've been burned in before you listen.
antimatter 6:10 AM - 29 September, 2012
The senheiser momentums and V moda m100's are two others I would try out as well. They just came out and the reviews are postive so far.
Niro 7:02 AM - 29 September, 2012
I've noticed a majority of DJ's in Asia use Senns HD25's.
the_black_one 7:11 AM - 29 September, 2012
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I've noticed a majority of DJ's in Asia use Senns HD25's.


smart folks
DJ Unique 7:53 AM - 29 September, 2012
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I've noticed a majority of DJ's in Asia use Senns HD25's.


smart folks

Yep.
DJJorel 9:27 AM - 2 October, 2012
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I've noticed a majority of DJ's in Asia use Senns HD25's.


Small people....small heads....
Mr. Goodkat 7:37 AM - 4 October, 2012
just bought the HDJ 1500, like them better than the 2000s, seem better built than the 500s(i've broke 3 pairs in a year).
DJ Dynamight 5:48 PM - 5 October, 2012
you can also make your own headphones.... www.thingiverse.com
antimatter 9:47 PM - 5 October, 2012
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just bought the HDJ 1500, like them better than the 2000s, seem better built than the 500s(i've broke 3 pairs in a year).

way more than enough reason to try somthing other than pioneer
d:raf 6:55 PM - 11 October, 2012
Didn't see this in here yet... audiofry.com

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The Beats by Dre Gimmick
By Boosh | May 02, 2012

Marketing genius can convince people that drinking Pepsi cures AIDS. Say hello to the headphone gimmick of “Beats by Dre,” the iPod-earbud replacement for the wealthy and ignorant.

There is no headphone that stands out more than “Beats by Dre.” While sleek in some aspects of design, Beats mostly look like fragile ear tumors. It’s a law of nature that the more retarded something looks, the more people want to buy it.

Starting at around $300, these ear-cans are sold as high-end studio headphones used by the best in the business. Dr. Dre, Eminem, Gwen Stefani, and David Guetta, are among the slew of A-list celebrities sporting these overpriced earmuffs.
High-end Studio Quality?

A quick search across audiophile forums will reveal a general consensus that Beats by Dre is a joke in terms of serious studio production (granted, headphones alone are never the best idea for music production).

Beats is known for a “smiley-face” EQ. Basically, cutting out the mid-frequencies and boosting the bass and treble. While this may have an appeal for casual-listening, it is the last thing you look for when mixing and producing because it gives an skewed sense of what the music really sounds like.

Oh, and that shiny plastic casing is really as fragile as it looks. Youtube is littered with broken Beats headphones.

Does it work for the casual-listener?

Yes, except casual-listening does not cost $300.

The main problem is that all of a sudden, you have people lining up to shell out Daddy’s money because they suddenly believe in “sound quality.” How do you know this is true? Ask anyone who has bought Beats by Dre, and you’ll see that the majority of them have never tried out any other headphones before buying Beats. Most won’t be able to name a single model of similar price.

So please, if you bought Beats by Dre, just admit that you did it for the sex appeal. If I had more money and less shame I would too!

Jimmy Iovine, current chairman/CEO of Interscope Geffen A&M Records, teamed up with Dr. Dre to create the Beats by Dre brand. Alongside Monster Cables, Jimmy and Dre and have effectively convinced the public that they need $300 overpriced headphones for their workout at the gym.

How did they do it? Endorsements. Endorsements out the asshole. Both Jimmy and Dre are huge industry players, and they used their connections to get everyone from Justin Bieber to Lebron James wearing and raving about Beats.

While celebrity sponsorship is nothing new, it’s never been seen with headphones. Think about what Skullcandy, Sony, Sensheimer, AKG, etc., all lack. A bunch of money-hungry famous people wearing their shit!

Gimmicks only become acceptable when you realize you’re buying in to the gimmick. The extra $200 you pay for Beats by Dre is all brandname and looks — being sexy ain’t cheap.

Do you love Beats by Dre and think I am overcompensating for something? Let me know with a loving comment below!
bicedidit 1:32 PM - 17 October, 2012
i hate that headphones have become a fashion accessory. high school kids walking around with $300 headphones like a status symbol. meanwhile they're bumping music with no dynamic range.

im glad i graduated hi school in the 90's

sorry to hijack
/rant
antimatter 4:26 AM - 18 October, 2012
Beats were around in the 90's. They were called sony mdr-v500 and 700's and they sucked too. Just history repeatin itself, unfortunatly it's just much bigger and worse this time around.
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i hate that headphones have become a fashion accessory. high school kids walking around with $300 headphones like a status symbol. meanwhile they're bumping music with no dynamic range.



im glad i graduated hi school in the 90's

Beats were around in the 90's. They were called the sony mdr-v500 and 700. Everybody whose over 30 had a pair and we all know how bad they were. Just history repeatin itself. Unfortunatly I think the beats era is a much bigger and worse problem than the sony's.



d:raf 4:36 AM - 18 October, 2012
If I was going for style and had thousands in disposable income I'd get these: www.lawtonaudio.com
Alcane 7:56 AM - 18 October, 2012
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Beats were around in the 90's. They were called sony mdr-v500 and 700's and they sucked too. Just history repeatin itself, unfortunatly it's just much bigger and worse this time around.


I had a pair of the Sony MDR-V700's a well - cost me about £100 as well.

They lasted about 6 months before the cracks started appearing on the hinge. Two months later I was down to a solitary ear cup then I bought myself my Sennheiser HD-25 cans, never looked back!
antimatter 9:08 AM - 18 October, 2012
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If I was going for style and had thousands in disposable income I'd get these: www.lawtonaudio.com

I got a new LA-D2000 ten days ago and they are a dream to listen to and wear. And yes they look stylish in the pics on their website. But on your head they stick out about 5 inches from your ears cause of how thick the ear pads are and how deep the wooden cups go, not so stylish. However the sound and comfort is spot on and totally makes up for that. Lawtonaudio is running a sale right now but its 10% vs. the 20% off deal they had goin in the summer. These headphones are also discontinued and they and you may have trouble gettin new stock headphones at a decent price. Denon's new line is beats inspired crap. The last time I checked the old line was going the way of the technic turntables and jumping way up in price or just plain not for sale. If you buy these headphones do it because you really like to listen to music because they look wierd when you wear them on your head. $900 is allot to spend but if you seriously like music its worth every penny.
dj-freestyle 3:09 PM - 18 October, 2012
Denon is beats inspired. What planet are you on. The 1000 have been the same for years and are built like tanks so not sure what headphones you are looking at
WarpNote 4:33 PM - 18 October, 2012
I had DNHP1000, they broke within 4 months...
dj-freestyle 6:53 PM - 18 October, 2012
really, i do mobile 2 or 3 gigs a month and im hard on them and ive has 2 pairs in 6 years. different for everbody i guess
dj-freestyle 6:53 PM - 18 October, 2012
2 or 3 a wekeend, sorry
antimatter 9:41 PM - 18 October, 2012
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Denon is beats inspired. What planet are you on. The 1000 have been the same for years and are built like tanks so not sure what headphones you are looking at

Uh you obviously haven't seen the new d-400,600,and 7100. They came out a couple months ago. Suppose to replace the D2,5,and 7k. The new music maniac, and urban raver line, even their names are complete cheese.
DJ GaFFle 11:37 PM - 18 October, 2012
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Denon is beats inspired. What planet are you on. The 1000 have been the same for years and are built like tanks so not sure what headphones you are looking at

Uh you obviously haven't seen the new d-400,600,and 7100. They came out a couple months ago. Suppose to replace the D2,5,and 7k. The new music maniac, and urban raver line, even their names are complete cheese.

Those overpriced headphones: have dual signal cables coming from the earcups, have no coil cord, are non-rotatable, are non-foldable and cost up to $1200. I've got no time for boutique audiophile headphones with Burlwood Mahogany finishes. Give me some rugged purpose-built DJ headphones that last for years.
dj-freestyle 3:04 PM - 19 October, 2012
According to denon those line of headphones have nothing to do with there dj line. to each his own.
eugguy 7:35 PM - 19 October, 2012
I owned and used the D2000 and D5000. These are the discontinued models. They were OK. Nothing special. Even after Lawton mods, I can't see these being more enjoyable than other headphones available now. I've owned so many headphones and the one that sticks out to me the best is the AKG K181DJ. Sounds better than headphones twice, three times the price. For dj's I recommend these over any pioneers.
antimatter 5:23 AM - 20 October, 2012
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I owned and used the D2000 and D5000. These are the discontinued models. They were OK. Nothing special. Even after Lawton mods, I can't see these being more enjoyable than other headphones available now. I've owned so many headphones and the one that sticks out to me the best is the AKG K181DJ. Sounds better than headphones twice, three times the price. For dj's I recommend these over any pioneers.

Well I respect your opinion but its pretty obvious you are not a basshead. If you were the D2 and 5K would be at the top of your list. Then you even furthered that with mentioning the akg. The akg's do mids and highs well but u will get more bass out of a 10 dollar keyboard.
Mr. Goodkat 7:21 AM - 20 October, 2012
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I owned and used the D2000 and D5000. These are the discontinued models. They were OK. Nothing special. Even after Lawton mods, I can't see these being more enjoyable than other headphones available now. I've owned so many headphones and the one that sticks out to me the best is the AKG K181DJ. Sounds better than headphones twice, three times the price. For dj's I recommend these over any pioneers.

Well I respect your opinion but its pretty obvious you are not a basshead. If you were the D2 and 5K would be at the top of your list. Then you even furthered that with mentioning the akg. The akg's do mids and highs well but u will get more bass out of a 10 dollar keyboard.


akg 181djs are my favorite. bass shy they arent, obviously you havent used them. thats why i dont like the senheiser hd25s or whatever, no bass, real flat.

the problem with the akgs is that they are plastic and break, other than that, all time favorite headphone next to the technics Technics RP-DJ1200K, with the straight, not coiled cord, which is too long.
antimatter 11:16 AM - 20 October, 2012
hd 25's are some of the bass slammiest headphones out there. You obvisously haven't used them. I'm just sayin akg is known for anemic bass.
DJMark 11:39 AM - 20 October, 2012
The HD-25's are really the only "DJ" headphone I've ever used where I can preview a song in cue and set EQ's, and be reasonably confident of the sound that will actually come out of the speakers when playing it.

They're also capable of playing really loud without distortion.

And you don't get raped for spare parts (had to change out an ear cushion recently).
d:raf 1:58 AM - 22 October, 2012
I'm putting this in the Craigslist thread too... greenville.craigslist.org

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Beats by dr dre!!****** (Spartanburg )
Date: 2012-10-21, 6:26PM EDT

I have 4 ibeats(2 black 2 white)
3 powerbeats(1 red 2 white)
And a pair of red solos hd.
All for $400! That's extreamly cheap.
*These beats are replicas though!*
But there amazing! Sound real and look real!. I'm selling all of these really cheap. Need to pay bills quick. You can triple your money selling them on eBay! Or double it selling it on here. I also have a pair of real solos(black) ill sell for $150 or $540 for everything!

Text me at [number removed]
Mr. Goodkat 2:32 AM - 22 October, 2012
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hd 25's are some of the bass slammiest headphones out there. You obvisously haven't used them. I'm just sayin akg is known for anemic bass.


really? i always thought of them as being really flat. kinda like a monitor. maybe i didnt listen to them long enough
DJ GaFFle 11:00 AM - 22 October, 2012
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hd 25's are some of the bass slammiest headphones out there. You obvisously haven't used them. I'm just sayin akg is known for anemic bass.


really? i always thought of them as being really flat. kinda like a monitor. maybe i didnt listen to them long enough

No, not really. They're closer to flat and have balanced bass. That guy has obviously never used Beats or Beats Pros. Those have 'slammiest' bass... too much bass.
eugguy 9:03 PM - 22 October, 2012
The Sennheiser HD 25 is great if you are in a club setting with an external monitor. Very crisp and clean. The AKG DJ181 is my personal favorite. Mind you, I am a bass head buddy. But I don't like flabby, weak bass. I've pushed them with an expensive headphone amp, also done with Lawton Mods. Not impressed. I've tried the Ultrasone Pro 900's...still flabby. Mind you as well, these headphones are expensive. Headphones are all about personal preference. I can push the akgs to the max and they still sound great. Warm, great amount/quality of bass, nice frequencies. Sounded great with either my Rane mixers or the Xone Rotary I'm rocking now. HD25 is a little weaker on the bass, but still accurate. And of course. It depends on what you are listening to and mixing. If you mix heavy bass colored music, the sennheiser hd25 might be a great match to balance out the sound during your mixing.

Headphone to Female Analogy:

Ultrasone 900 & Denon 2000/5000= fat ugly chick, big sloppy boobies and body

Sennheiser HD25/AKG K181DJ= lean, sexy, firm, fit babe

Beats: a lonely woman who has gotten a lot of plastic surgery and needs to feel loved
DJ GaFFle 11:00 PM - 22 October, 2012
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AKG K181DJ = with all the plastic and extended skinny earcup arms, looks like they'll snap with the quickness.
eugguy 11:20 PM - 22 October, 2012
AKG K181DJ...been gigging 4 plus years strong...about as tough as the plastic on your cute Land Rover.
DJ GaFFle 11:27 PM - 22 October, 2012
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AKG K181DJ...been gigging 4 plus years strong...about as tough as the plastic on your cute Land Rover.

THat's tough... I'm sold. :-)
Mr. Goodkat 12:04 AM - 23 October, 2012
i broke 3 pairs at about 9-12 months with akg181s. i wouldnt say they are overly tough, but im rough on gear.
eugguy 12:14 AM - 23 October, 2012
Dang, three pairs?
DjCity 2:35 AM - 23 October, 2012
This is a looooooooooooooooooooooooong ass thread.
antimatter 6:14 AM - 23 October, 2012
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According to denon those line of headphones have nothing to do with there dj line. to each his own.

Yes the dnhp-1000's are just modded, rebaged audio technica m50's. Even if audio technica and denon part ways u can still just mod your own m50's.
antimatter 6:44 AM - 23 October, 2012
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The Sennheiser HD 25 is great if you are in a club setting with an external monitor. Very crisp and clean. The AKG DJ181 is my personal favorite. Mind you, I am a bass head buddy. But I don't like flabby, weak bass. I've pushed them with an expensive headphone amp, also done with Lawton Mods. Not impressed. I've tried the Ultrasone Pro 900's...still flabby. Mind you as well, these headphones are expensive. Headphones are all about personal preference. I can push the akgs to the max and they still sound great. Warm, great amount/quality of bass, nice frequencies. Sounded great with either my Rane mixers or the Xone Rotary I'm rocking now. HD25 is a little weaker on the bass, but still accurate. And of course. It depends on what you are listening to and mixing. If you mix heavy bass colored music, the sennheiser hd25 might be a great match to balance out the sound during your mixing.



Headphone to Female Analogy:



Ultrasone 900 & Denon 2000/5000= fat ugly chick, big sloppy boobies and body



Sennheiser HD25/AKG K181DJ= lean, sexy, firm, fit babe



Beats: a lonely woman who has gotten a lot of plastic surgery and needs to feel loved

Ok so I had a chance to audition the 181dj's and they were really impresive. The bass was thin but fair. Definitly more present than in their K550 model wierd. However to compare them to a pro 9 or d2k is laughable. Listening to the speed and detail of my pro 9's is like going to the drag strip and watching a vette take on a geo metro(181dj's). I also dont think you heard the pro 9 burned in. I will be the first to admit the pro 9 sounds like garbage (seriously almost unbelievably broken) between hours 5-100. 100-200 they start improving and by 200 hrs. they are a techno lovers dream. I know burn-in is a highly debated subject but with the titanium drivers on the pro 9 their is no debate. Anyone who held on to them long enuff will tell you the same. There is absolultly no sub-bass flab after burnin. Just tons of mid-bass slam. Also I will admit the d2k's do have flabby sub-bass but not my LA-D2000's. What mods did you do? Did you do the mods yourself? Not all mods work with some people i.e. I would never recomend angle pads for people wit small ears. With no specifics I can only assume you did a half-ass DIY that may have made the d2k's worse. Anyways as far as the 181 dj's go I would rate them as a $200 can in $100(only$95 on amazon!) sheep's clothing. I like them better than the AT m50's and the Koss 8400's, and I would probably draw the line at $150 before you find a better deal with the vmoda m80 crossfade and the ultrasone djpro1 giving them a run for their money.
eugguy 3:30 AM - 24 October, 2012
To have to mod a pair of headphones sounds ridiculous to me. Burn-in is acceptable, but even so, the pro 900s aren't exactly considered hifi. Still mid-fi. Those can also be modded as well. I actually do like hearing your comparison. Maybe I will buy the 900s in the future and mod them accordingly. What is your comparison of the dj1/dj1pros to the 181?
ontime1269 12:38 AM - 25 October, 2012
Here is the standard of headphones!!! Ooooooh!!! LOL!!!

www.americanmusical.com

I like the look of them. Maybe they sound good as well. I refuse to pay for the name which is why you will never see me sporting any Beats either.
DJ GaFFle 2:40 AM - 25 October, 2012
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Here is the standard of headphones!!! Ooooooh!!! LOL!!!

www.americanmusical.com

I like the look of them. Maybe they sound good as well. I refuse to pay for the name which is why you will never see me sporting any Beats either.

It says "Anodized aluminium parts for heavy duty use"... bout time they start getting the point. It's probably the Beats Pros that have trail blazed the way for full metal construction. I appreciate the metal on those AKG's but the look is kind of blah. I'd have to try them on. My favs in the looks dept. are the Pioneer HD2000's. Too bad they have primarily plastic parts.
antimatter 5:20 AM - 25 October, 2012
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To have to mod a pair of headphones sounds ridiculous to me. Burn-in is acceptable, but even so, the pro 900s aren't exactly considered hifi. Still mid-fi. Those can also be modded as well. I actually do like hearing your comparison. Maybe I will buy the 900s in the future and mod them accordingly. What is your comparison of the dj1/dj1pros to the 181?

The dj1's have more bass than the 181's. The dj1pros have a better soundstage.
antimatter 5:29 AM - 25 October, 2012
Actually my ultrasone recommendation right now is the pro 750 not the dj1 or dj1pro. Its only $225 on amazon now. Lowest i've ever seen it and i've watched it for a wile. Not quite as v-shaped sound as the 900's. Eugguy I think you would like these better than the 9's. My $150 headphone is vmoda m80 crossfade. Built like a ton of bricks, sound great, and are comfy. Just dont get any of the lp versions, they're crap.
eugguy 12:01 PM - 25 October, 2012
Thanks Antimatter, I'll look into the 750s. The 900s were pretty V shaped.
antimatter 2:36 AM - 26 October, 2012
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Thanks Antimatter, I'll look into the 750s. The 900s were pretty V shaped.

Yeah amason is the shit for trying out headphones. Im lucky I got a rich friend who recently opened up a home audio store, but he recently got into djing and bought a 20k dj rig. He would like to start carrying dj equipment and I think needles and headphones would be a good start. Amazon usually has a return policy on their headphones and free shipping so all you have to pay for is shipping them back. With the post office only a block away from the store I bet weve tried 15 sets for less than 100 bucks in the last few months.
antimatter 2:44 AM - 26 October, 2012
So I was fortunate enough to see Mr. Dj Dara and Mr. Claude von Storke on the 20th. Dara I didn't get a chance to ask him but I'm 99% sure he was using tma1's. Von stroke I did have a chance to ask and it was the akg teiesto's. While i'm not a fan of tiesto I will have to try these out. I've seen the stroker twice now and he killed it both times. Dara I've seen since he had 3ft. dreads, kind of a wierd set. You know its a good party when those two are in the second room. Thanks 4sho.
antimatter 2:55 AM - 26 October, 2012
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hd 25's are some of the bass slammiest headphones out there. You obvisously haven't used them. I'm just sayin akg is known for anemic bass.




really? i always thought of them as being really flat. kinda like a monitor. maybe i didnt listen to them long enough


No, not really. They're closer to flat and have balanced bass. That guy has obviously never used Beats or Beats Pros. Those have 'slammiest' bass... too much bass.

Yes, yes really. They have kindof a hybrid sound that has more emphasis on bass than most mid-forward cans. They def. gota alot of mid-bass kick. Maybe not beats level. The hdj-2000's and the ultrasone pro750 have this hybrid sound too. Oh and sony xb-1000's are the bass kings not beats. 70mm drivers and twice the bass of beats. Fartimus Supremus.
eugguy 3:33 PM - 26 October, 2012
I'm on a headphone hunt...would also like to try the AKG K267 (Tiesto Headphones) even though I despise Tiesto, I trust AKG's sound enough. Hopefully they will have that sound I crave. I'd also like to test out some ultrasones. It might be best for me to go to B & H and test in person. I've gone through so many headphones this past month...since I do most of my mixing in my headphones in my apartment, i need something that can bring me into the mix as much as possible and also be enjoyable. An accurate but fun sounding headphone. The AKG 181s have had the closest sound I'm looking for so far. I dig being able to feel my ears vibrate a bit as well, without distortion, which the AKGs handle well. Sony's will most likely sound bad, not sure on which model of the ultrasones will have the sound even though I've tested the pro900s. Too tinny, not enough of that full sound I know I'm looking for. Mixing deep, soulful, melodic house, I want to hear and feel my music. As much as I can with headphones on.
antimatter 10:24 PM - 26 October, 2012
Yeah im not a tiesto fan either but if his heaphones are von stroke aproved im down. If its one thing I hate about ultrasone's its you dont kno what you got. What mite sound like crap one minute sounds like a dream after being put on the rap staition for a week.
antimatter 9:02 AM - 5 November, 2012
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I'm on a headphone hunt...would also like to try the AKG K267 (Tiesto Headphones) even though I despise Tiesto, I trust AKG's sound enough. Hopefully they will have that sound I crave. I'd also like to test out some ultrasones. It might be best for me to go to B & H and test in person. I've gone through so many headphones this past month...since I do most of my mixing in my headphones in my apartment, i need something that can bring me into the mix as much as possible and also be enjoyable. An accurate but fun sounding headphone. The AKG 181s have had the closest sound I'm looking for so far. I dig being able to feel my ears vibrate a bit as well, without distortion, which the AKGs handle well. Sony's will most likely sound bad, not sure on which model of the ultrasones will have the sound even though I've tested the pro900s. Too tinny, not enough of that full sound I know I'm looking for. Mixing deep, soulful, melodic house, I want to hear and feel my music. As much as I can with headphones on.

Akg just came out with what I think is going to replace the 181dj's (totally assuming). The K618dj's and k619. You never know a new pair of 181dj's mite be your best replacement option. Theyr'e really cheap right now. I kno when my technics first started to deteriorate I tried the fischer fa-003's and fell in love but waited too long to buy. The brainwavs hm-5 is said to be it's clone but I think its a piece of crap compared to the original fischer's. Have you tried the cal's yet? Definitly my second favorite $100 can. Anyways hopefully this year's black friday is better than last years which was crappy.
eugguy 11:28 PM - 14 November, 2012
I will look into those AKG's as well!
inmod3stman 4:42 PM - 19 November, 2012
do NNOOTT get beats sound quality is crap you just have two subs on the side of ur face you cant hear anything through the muddy crappy bass
inmod3stman 4:47 PM - 19 November, 2012
can someone recommend me which one of these is better:

AKG K-267

AKG Q-701

Sennheiser HD 600

Pioneer HDJ-2000

its a lot of cans ik but thx to anyone who can
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:06 PM - 19 November, 2012
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do NNOOTT get beats sound quality is crap you just have two subs on the side of ur face you cant hear anything through the muddy crappy bass

Sounds perfect for dubstep
DJ Unique 6:42 PM - 19 November, 2012
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Sounds perfect for dubstep

HaHaHa...
the_black_one 7:19 PM - 19 November, 2012
i finally had a chance to hear the beatport version os the aiai or whatever they are called and they sound horrible!
antimatter 10:37 PM - 19 November, 2012
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AKG K-267



AKG Q-701



Sennheiser HD 600



Pioneer HDJ-2000



its a lot of cans ik but thx to anyone who can

The akg 701 and senn. hd600 are open cans so they prob. wont work too well with djing as they leak out allot of sound out the backs of them. Prob. the best bang for you buck headphones though. The pio and akg k267 tiesto's are closed. The prob I have wit the pio's is that they break easy. The k267 hasn't been out long enuff for me to try out or read any reviews on. Good reviews have come in on the k167 its smaller on ear cousin.
DJJorel 10:41 PM - 20 November, 2012
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i finally had a chance to hear the beatport version os the aiai or whatever they are called and they sound horrible!


Really? I use the TMA-1 Fools Gold edition (which are identical), and they sound great to me...

Then again...this demonstrates how much of a personal choice headphones are...
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:01 PM - 5 December, 2012
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Contrary to what you see in ads, there’s more to headphones than which rapper or DJ has signed off on endorsing them. Particularly for the rigorous demands of DJs, headphones have to deliver amazingly clear sound quality, high sound pressure levels, extreme durability, road-worthiness, ideally provide a little bit of unique panache. We pitted five models against each other from the likes of Beats By Dre, Pioneer, Sennheiser, V-Moda, and Wicked Audio to see which cans deserve your cash. Read on for the goods.

THE CONTENDERS

(listed below as pictured above – from left to right)Reviewed: Sennheiser HD 25-1 IIPrice: $249.95 (MSRP), $199-249 (retail price range)Ships with: 1/4-inch screw-on plug adapter, 1 pair of soft ear pads, nylon carrying pouch.Weight: 4.9 ounces (140 g) (not including the cable)Model: Beats By Dre MixrPrice: $249 (MSRP), $249 (retail price)Ships with: 1/4-inch gold plated snap-on plug adapter, cleaning cloth, a detachable 1/8-inch audio cable with an Apple-compatible remote/mic, a second detachable 1/8-inch audio cable with an extended-range coil, and a zippered soft-shell carrying case.Weight: 7.4 ounces (210 g) (not including the cable)Reviewed: V-Moda Crossfade LP2Price: $199 in the DJTT WebstoreShips with: gunmetal shield kit, screwdriver, “Exoskeleton” case, carabiner, detachable 3-button remote/mic cable, detachable extended cable,1/4-inch plug adapter, cleaning cloth.Weight: 9.2 ounces (260 g) (not including the cable)Reviewed: Pioneer HDJ-2000Price: $450 (MSRP), $229-349 (retail price range)Ships with: 1/4-inch gold plated, screw-on plug adapter, cloth carrying pouch.Weight: 10.2 ounces (290 g) (not including the cable)We tested the metallic black Pioneer HDJ-2000-K, which except for the color, is the same as the silver HDJ-2000 and white HDJ-2000-W. We refer to all three models generically as the HDJ-2000Reviewed: Wicked Audio SolusPrice: $99 (MSRP), $59-99 (retail price range – this is this review’s “budget” headphone)Ships with: 6-foot audio extension cable with 1/8-inch jacks, 1/4-inch gold-plated plug adapter, fabric carrying pouch.Weight: 15 ounces (425 g) (including the hard wired cable)Here’s how today’s review works: We’ll take a look at how each model performs in sound quality, build quality, fit/comfort, portability, and value – and choose a winner for each category. We’ll also choose an overall winner – but remember that as with a lot of reviews of headphones, it can be a subjective opinion as to which headphone truly is the “best”.

SOUND QUALITY 

Probably the most important criterium, the sound of a set of headphones includes the quality of its bass response, frequency separation, stereo image, loudness, overall sound quality, and also its sound isolating ability (how well the headphones keep out external noise).To evaluate their sound, we tested each pair of headphones with a playlist of popular tracks from the ’80s, ’90s, and 2000′s across multiple DJ-friendly genres. For each headphone set, the signal path and volume level from audio file to software to soundcard was identical.Sennheiser HD 25-1 IIBass response: big and rumbly, similar to the Pioneer.Frequency separation: defined; clear separation between all mids and highs.Stereo image: wide, on par with V-Moda.Loudness: very close to Pioneer and Wicked.Overall: similar to the Pioneer, but a little less harsh.Sound isolation: nowhere near as good as advertised. On-the-ear cup design let more external sound in.Beats By Dre MixrBass response: deep and smooth. Doesn’t muddy up the other frequencies.Frequency separation: all frequency ranges are clearly defined, the high frequencies are not too sharp and piercing.Stereo image: appropriately wide and well-defined.Loudness: the loudest of the bunch.Overall: a “transparent” sound, meaning it doesn’t seem to color music in any particular way; it just has an excellent overall mix.Sound isolation: decent, but in the middle of the pack for this round-up.V-Moda Crossfade LP2Bass response: full and round. Not too hyped or rumbly. Really quite good.Frequency separation: a little muted in the highsStereo image: nice and wide.Loudness: lower than the rest.Overall: smooth and warm, not raw and in your face. The most pleasing and balanced overall sound.Sound isolation: The best by a small amount. Good fit over the ears.Pioneer HDJ-2000Bass response: deep, but not hyped. A little rumbly.Frequency separation: much better than the Wicked set. Bright highs and defined mids.Stereo image: not overly wide, but adequate.Loudness: about the same as Wicked and Sennheiser.Overall: a little raw, but definitely better than the Solus.Sound isolation: 3rd after the Solus.Wicked Audio SolusBass response: big bass- it sounds overly hyped. Clearly a priority for these.Frequency separation: muddy between the mids and highs. Not as bright and crisp in the high-end, which may be preferred when listening at loud levels.Stereo image: nice and wide.Loudness: about same or a little louder than Pioneer.Overall: a rather muddy mix.Sound isolation: somewhere just behind the V-Moda.Sound Quality Winner: Beats By Dre MixrSound Quality Runner-up: V-Moda Crossfade LP2Really, sound evaluation comes down to personal preference and personal needs. I ultimately decided that listening to music in general felt the best through the LP2 and Mixr headphones. Songs sounded like I expected them to, and the overall smoothness of the sound contributed to prolonged listens without ear fatigue. I’d prefer to mix an original track through the LP2s, but with its louder relative signal, I gave the Mixrs the nod for DJing. If, however, what you want for DJing is a raw, gritty, loud but still accurate sound, it’d be a tie between the HDJ-2000 and HD 25-1 ii. The Solus cans sounded overly hyped in the bass and overly muddy everywhere else.I tested the sound isolation of the headphones not only while DJing but also while playing drums with a full live band. I felt that the LP2s did the best job of actually dampening external noise when there was no audio signal coming through the phones. Because the relative loudness of the LP2 was the lowest, it’s tempting to think of the other cans as being better at sound isolation when they’re blasting music in your ear. However, although it was a close call, the enveloping fit of the LP2′s ear cups did the best at isolating external noise.

BUILD QUALITY

The more you practice and play, the more you beat up your headphones. It’s just inevitable. You’re putting them on, taking them off, packing them up, and pulling them out more than the average user. If you’re some kind of superstar, you may be showered with a promotional bounty of the latest pairs of stylish cans, but otherwise, the headphones you buy should be made with durability in mind for abusive demands of a busy DJ.For this category, we’re looking at how strong the models are for bending the headband, pulling the ear cups in and out to adjust the size, any twisting of the ear cups, a strong and replaceable cable, and the robustness of the materials used for the different parts of the headphones.Sennheiser HD 25-1 IIWeight was a priority for Sennheiser on these headphones, so it’s made mostly from lightweight but tough molded plastic. They weigh only 4.9 ounces without the cable, a remarkably low weight. Yet the headband bends all the way flat and then backward if you need it to, so that’s more than sufficient.From the looks of the ear cups, it appears as if they are both supposed to rotate backward and forward. On the set that we tested, however, only the left cup moved, which could be fine in practice. Different from the rotating swivel of the Pioneer and Wicked Audio headsets, the ear cup of the HD 25-1 II moves backward or forward almost 90 degrees in each direction, for almost 180 degrees of total movement. Unfortunately though, this rotating movement is noticeable more stiff and awkward than the other cups that swivel easily, so it can be cumbersome to monitor with a single cup of these headphones.Rather than detaching easily for storage, the cable of the HD 25-1 II detaches by unscrewing two small Philips-head screws and pulling cables out of the ear cups, so you’d really only want to detach it to replace a faulty cable. And like the Pioneer cable, the one for the HD 25-1 ii is a non-standard cable that sells for $46.09 plus shipping from Sennheiser’s site.One other note on the build of these can involves their exposed wires going into the ear cups. I personally don’t prefer exposed wires on DJ headphones, because I’m liable to get them caught on something as I’m removing them throughout a set.Beats By Dre MixrApparently David Guetta dusted off his post-doctoral industrial engineering degree to create these headphones with DJs in mind – but it shouldn’t matter who allegedly designed the Mixr. What matters is that these headphones have achieved something many others have tried but often fall short: They’re extraordinarily stylish, yet they don’t sacrifice durability or necessary features. The very flexible headband doesn’t twist quite as extremely as the V-Moda’s Steelflex band, but it’s clearly built for the long haul. You can bend it back and forth and twist it around at will.The on-ear cups utilize a single hinge made of a strong metal alloy to offer both rotation and length adjustment. Each cup can rotate back 90 degrees and then forward 180 degrees in order to fold up into a compact ball for carting around in the included zippered case.Guetta wanted some lightweight headphones, and he got ‘em. The Mixr weighs only 7.4 ounces, second lightest after the Sennheisers. Although physically small and light, they’re built with robust metal alloys where it counts and should be able to handle a pretty tough physical toll during your travels.V-Moda Crossfade LP2At first glance I was concerned about using the LP2 for one-ear monitoring, because its ear cups don’t swivel or rotate. However, V-Moda make their headphones with what they call the Steelflex Headband, saying it is “virtually indestructible.” I wouldn’t go quite that far, but it is very clearly built to last and extremely flexible. You can bend it flat and backwards at will, but perhaps more importantly, you can twist the Steelflex Headband liberally and without concern, so that you can quickly monitor with a single cup. I still don’t prefer this method to swivelling cups, but it is nonetheless quite effective.As for the rest of the LP2, it feels sturdy all around. Besides the steel frame, there are aircraft-grade metal cup shields, which you can replace and customize with different colors and laser logo engravings. The headband and ear cups are lined with leather with memory foam underneath.The LP2s also have exposed wires coming out from the cups, but for this model, the detachable cables are standard 1/8-inch connectors, so they could be replaced easily. The included cables are reportedly Kevlar-reinforced on the inside and have stood up to more than 1 million bends in testing. Overall, with its impressive build quality, it’s easy to see these V-Modas giving the HDJ-2000 a run for their money in durability.Pioneer HDJ-2000With the HDJ-2000′s I have the benefit of hindsight, since they’ve been my headphones of choice for DJing for the last 3 years. Although it’s not the only set I’ve been using, the 3-year old HDJ-2000 pair I have still retains the same level of flexibility and movement in all areas, and aside from a few cosmetic scratches and grime ground into the brushed metal of the outer ear cups, they’re none the worse for wear and seem ready for another few years of use at least.The HDJ-2000s weigh just more then 10 ounces: not too heavy, and yet its moving joints are made of a magnesium alloy that makes them extremely solid. The ear cups rotate 90 degrees to one side for conveniently monitoring your cue mix, and with its metal hinges, and extremely flexible yet solid headband, you can confidently twist and bend the HDJ-2000s with abandon as you perform.Pioneer has even infused a ton of quality into the HDJ-2000′s detachable cord. Rather than an 1/8-inch mini jack, the cord attaches to the headphones with a locking Mini XLR connection. It securely locks in with a button-press release, and the other end is an 1/8-inch audio plug that can go with either the included screw-in 1/4-inch plug adapter or any other non-screw-in 1/4-inch adapter. The cable measures 1.2 meters coiled, and 3 meters when extended fully. The drawback to the detachable cord is that it is a non-standard cable that sells for $27-43 online.Wicked Audio SolusWhen you take a look at the comparative prices, it’s no shocker that the Solus phones are the least sturdily made of the bunch. Plastics take the place of metals, and the flexibility of the headband may be a concern. When testing the limits of the headband, I stopped short of bending it backwards out of fear of breaking or at least misshaping it.The ear cups swivel in either direction for 90 degrees, giving them 180 degrees of total mobility. That’s a welcome perk, but the plastic hinges don’t instil the greatest of confidence, especially if you plan on exposing them to the true rigors of the DJ lifestyle. In fact, in the middle of testing these headphones and folding them up for storage, one of the screws holding together the two plastic halves of one of the ear cup hinges fell out, and a plastic panel broke off as a result. Later the 1/4-inch plug adapter fell apart simply by taking it out of the carrying bag! Given that this occurred after only about a few of hours of use (and not abuse), it’d be tough to recommend these to a working DJ, unless maybe as an inexpensive back-up pair.The round ear cups and headband are generously padded and wrapped in a silicone type of pleather. The Solus’ audio cable is hard-wired to the right ear cup and includes an in-line volume control and mono/stereo switch, both potentially useful features. The gold-plated 1/8-inch audio plug is not threaded for a screw-on 1/4-inch adapter.Build Quality Winner: Pioneer HDJ-2000Build Quality Runners-up: V-Moda Crossfade LP2, and Beats By Dre MixrWith the LP2′s sturdy construction and crazy headband flexibility, and the Mixr’s innovative lightweight design, they come in at a close second-place tie behind the HDJ-2000. Ultimately though, the HDJ-2000′s build strikes me as the Parthenon of DJ headphone construction. The classic swivelling and collapsible cups combined with supreme durability stand the test of time. The locking, detachable cable with threaded connection for a screw-on 1/4-inch adapter seal the deal. The HD 25-1 ii’s unique construction breaks some ground and comes in as the lightest set, but it’s ultimately rather awkward to manipulate. And, well, two parts of the Solus broke in no time flat, so what else needs to be said?

FIT + COMFORT

Some DJs wear their headphones more than others, but whether you have them on for most of your sets or just check them in one ear every once in a while, a good set of headphones ideally should maintain a tolerable level of comfort on your ears and head after a few hours of mixing or monitoring music. You may or may not use your DJing cans as your phones for making original tracks, as well, but it’s nice to have that option.Key factors in this category include size adjustability, comfort of the ear cups and comfort of the headband.Sennheiser HD 25-1 IIThese headphones are very light and put almost no pressure on your head from the headband. On the downside, the on-the-ear cups pinch a fair amount, so I felt physical discomfort from wearing them about as fast as I did with larger headphones that affected the head more. After about an hour on the HD 25-1 ii, I wanted to give my ears a break.There’s a really long adjustable range of more than 2 inches to pull out the ear cups, but you also have to be careful that you don’t pull the ear cup entirely off the main unit, which can happen.Beats By Dre MixrThe Mixr’s fit in similar manner to the Sennheiser pair: they put almost no pressure on your head from the headband. Instead, the on-the-ear cups hold them to your melon, and the resulting pinch took a toll on my ears within an hour. They weren’t intolerable until almost two hours, but if I were the type of DJ who wears headphones throughout an entire set, I’d try a different set or look into some in-ear monitors.There’s plenty of adjustable length range for the ear cups to pull out, again using the cleverly designed single hinge that also allows the cups to rotate widely.V-Moda Crossfade LP2V-Moda touts its hexagonal ear-cup shape that comes from more than four years of research and development and this time, the marketing claims live up to their billing. I found the LP2s to be the most comfortable fit of all the headsets tested here. The hexagonal ear-cups indeed did fit very inoffensively over my ears; didn’t pinch much at all, and the light pressure on the head from the headband was diffused somewhat from the light padding distributed across the entire headband. All headphones will eventually get on your nerves, but I was able to wear the LP2s the longest before feeling annoyed to the point of needing a rest.For adjusting the length of the headband, the V-Modas had the shortest throw for pulling out the cups at just over 1 inch. However, the headband itself is also a little longer than the others, so I don’t see this as a problem.Pioneer HDJ-2000These are not the most comfortable headphones I’ve ever worn, but they’re up there as far as DJ-specific headphones are concerned. The round, over-the-ear cups have a soft leather outer lining, and squishy urethane pads on the inside. The top of the headband also sports a leather and urethane pad for your dome. The headphones sit pretty well, with their weight and pinching pressure distributed nice and evenly. Some discomfort appears after about an hour of constant use, but it doesn’t become intolerable until after about three hours.Of course, not all noggins were created equal. Each side of the HDJ-2000s pulls out about 1.25 inches to adjust for head size. That’s not as long as some popular Sony studio headphones that pull out 1.75 inches, but it should be plenty enough adjust to accommodate a larger cranium.Wicked Audio SolusAlthough it has similarly round, over-the-ear cups, the Solus ended up being quite a bit more uncomfortable after an hour than the HDJ-2000s, seemingly due to the ear cup foam not having as much give, and the headphones pinching the head more. The Solus was not outright uncomfortable — the headband barely registered any annoyance — but it was noticeably more fatiguing over the same amount of time than the Pioneers.Regarding adjustability, the Solus has a little more than 1.5 inches of pull-out for each side, so once again, enough for just about any case, until Sasquatch decides to learn beat-matching.Fit + Comfort Winner: V-Moda Crossfade LP2Fit + Comfort Runners-up: Pioneer HDJ-2000 and Wicked Audio SolusAfter wearing all these headphones repeatedly, the winner of best fit has to be the LP2 due to the soothing relief I felt every time when putting them on after one of the other pairs. The hexagonal over-the-ear cups won out clearly over the on-the-ear design of the HD 25-1 ii and Mixr, as well as the round, over-the-ears of the HDJ-2000 and Solus.

PORTABILITY

How well equipped are the headphones to fit into cramped bags and survive the possible smooshing of overhead compartments? Do they collapse and fold up nicely? Is there a protective case?Sennheiser HD 25-1 IINot only are these headphones very light at 4.9 ounces, but they are also physically smaller than average due in part to the smaller on-the-ear cups rather than over-the-ear cups. They don’t fold in or collapse to shrink in storage size; you just push the ear cups in and stash them in the included bag. There is no hardshell case, not even as a paid add-on.Beats By Dre MixrThe Mixr fits the bill for portability so well that when I first opened up the box and saw the grapefruit-sized case that held the Mixr inside, I thought “what kind of baby headphones are these?” That fear was quickly assuaged, though. You open the case to find a compactly folded set of lightweight headphones clearly designed for the road. Although they are quite light at 7.4 ounces, I wouldn’t sweat it if you accidentally sit on them a few times while trying to get comfortable in coach class.V-Moda Crossfade LP2You won’t save any room storing the LP2s in a bag since they don’t fold up or collapse. On the other hand though, they come out of the box with a molded “Exoskeleton” hardshell case for excellent protection. Inside the case there are cable organizers, and outside there’s a carabiner for hooking the case to a DJ bag or wherever else you want to hang it. At 9.2 ounces without the case or cable, the LP2s weigh less than the HDJ-2000.Pioneer HDJ-2000These cans collapse nicely into a folded-up crescent shape when you’re finished, which you can easily stuff into the included fabric carrying pouch along with the detached cable. Because the headphones’ folding parts are constructed with a strong magnesium alloy, you can fold them up and expand them again and again quickly without worrying about damaging them.While many sets of headphones now — especially at this price — come with a hardshell carrying case, the HDJ-2000 does not, although the companion zippered hardshell Pioneer HDJ-HC01 case sells separately for $39 and includes a carabiner for hooking onto a DJ bag.Wicked Audio SolusThe Solus folds up pretty well into a crescent shape for storing in its carrying pouch, although it doesn’t collapse with the same sort of care-free ease of the HDJ-2000. No hardshell case is available as an option, so given the proven vulnerability of its plastic parts, you’ll want to avoid stuffing these into a crowded DJ bag without regard to their safety.At 15 ounces, these are the heaviest cans in this group, but we’re talking about a difference of just a few ounces, not enough to be a big concern.Portability Winner: Beats By Dre MixrPortability Runner-up: Pioneer HDJ-2000The Mixr was the only pair that hit the sweet spot for portability: very light, foldable, and with a custom-shaped zippered case included. The Sennheisers are the lightest, but don’t fold-up and have no hard case option. The V-Modas come with a hard case but don’t fold up to save space. The Solus folds up but has no hard case. And the HDJ-2000 collapses nicely and has a rock-solid build that you can stuff into odd spaces without too much worry.

BONUS POINTS: EXTRAS

It’s worth checking out briefly what extra features or accessories each model comes with – below we’ve noted the coolest stuff only!Beats By Dre Mixr includes a detachable 1/8-inch audio cable with an Apple-compatible remote/mic, a second detachable 1/8-inch audio cable with an extended-range coil, and a zippered soft-shell carrying case. Special features include a dual input: each ear cup has an 1/8-inch audio connection, so you can share the music or simply pick which side to plug into.Pioneer HDJ-2000 includes a1/4-inch gold plated, screw-in plug adapter and cloth carrying pouch. Only one special feature – the left ear cup has a switch for selecting a Mono or Stereo mix in the headphones.Sennheiser HD 25-1 II has a 1/4-inch screw-on plug adapter, 1 pair of secondary soft ear pads, nylon carrying pouch. Special Features: headband can split apart from the center and widen out; this is to allow the cable to come out and possibly to help adjust it to your head. The cable terminates with a right-angle audio plug to stick out less from a mixer or controller.V-Moda Crossfade LP2 has some secondary gunmetal shield kit (screaming to be painted/laser etched/customized), strong hardshell  ”Exoskeleton” case, carabiner, detachable 3-button remote/mic cable, detachable extended cable, 1/4-inch plug adapter, cleaning cloth.Wicked Audio Solus includes a 6-foot audio extension cable with 1/8-inch jacks, 1/4-inch gold-plated plug adapter, fabric carrying pouch.The headphone cable includes an in-line volume control and a stereo/mono switch.Winners: V-Moda Crossfade LP2 and Beats By Dre MixrThis category is the least important, but with the LP2′s two detachable audio cables, hard case, customizable shield plates and other goodies, V-Moda has exceeded expectations. Same goes for the Mixr. Although you pay a bit more, you get a nice case, two detachable audio cables, and a handy snap-on 1/4-inch adapter — all of them beautifully designed.

VALUE

How does the overall package look against the price?Winner: V-Moda Crossfade LP2Seeing as how this overall contest is a statistical dead heat between the V-Moda and the Pioneer until you look at the extras and the price, the LP2 wins the value race, as well. Take the value consideration with a grain of salt, however. Pro DJs or aspiring pros should probably concern themselves more with overall quality than price considerations. You need what will best suit your own needs first.

GRAND CHAMPION OF THE MULTIVERSE

What we have here is a very close three-way competition between the Mixr, HDJ-2000, and Crossfade LP2. V-Moda surprised me with the LP2. I’d used a lower-tier V-Moda product before and was not overly impressed, so to see the LP2 hang with the perennial favorite HDJ-2000 and the zillionaire-backed Mixr opened my eyes to this company. It’s supplying a high-caliber product at a reasonable price and with some fun considerations toward personal styling.The Mixr quickly proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it’s not just hype behind the Beats by Dre brand. It’s covered just about all the bases, giving you loud and accurate sound inside a robust, lightweight, collapsable and attractive design.Still though, if a DJ comes to me personally and asks which of these I recommend for DJing and if price is not a factor, I’m pointing them to the HDJ-2000. The LP2′s sound and comfort might make it the better pick for all-purpose use, but for DJing in particular, the HDJ-2000 has the higher sound levels, classic and proven form factor, with legendary durability to boot. When it comes to comparing the HDJ-2000 and the Mixr, the Mixr almost has it all. However, ultimately I wouldn’t switch to the Mixr for DJing because of its pinching on-ear fit, and because I still prefer the HDJ-2000′s fluid bending and flexing design for DJing over the Mixr’s smart, but less fluid scheme for bending the ear cups and collapsing the headphones for travel.



WarpNote 7:35 PM - 5 December, 2012
Ill take that review with a grain of salt. Saying stuff like:
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"HD 25-1 II moves backward or forward almost 90 degrees in each direction, for almost 180 degrees of total movement. Unfortunately though, this rotating movement is noticeable more stiff and awkward than the other cups that swivel easily, so it can be cumbersome to monitor with a single cup of these headphones."
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"From the looks of the ear cups, it appears as if they are both supposed to rotate backward and forward. On the set that we tested, however, only the left cup moved"
is just plain dumb, and goes to show how much effort the tester really put into it....
Kepik 7:46 PM - 5 December, 2012
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"These are not the most comfortable headphones I’ve ever worn,"


I think they are very comfortable! In fact, I could wear them for more than 2-3 hours with very slight discomfort.

How does the Mixr end up being the best sound quality? I had those before (no, I didn't buy them, got it for free), and the mids / highs were not clear at all. It had too much bass.
WarpNote 7:50 PM - 5 December, 2012
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How does the Mixr end up being the best sound quality?

The tester, mr Markkus Rovito is deaf?
antimatter 3:41 AM - 6 December, 2012
So did anybody get any good black fiday/cyber monday deals? Kindof looks like it was another crappy year to me. I did get my nefew a sony mdr-v6 for $59 with shiping and tax. Heard it was as low as $40-45.
antimatter 4:18 AM - 6 December, 2012
As for that review I dont kno what to make of it. Sound quality beats mixr? No way last place, not even as good as the pros IMO. Build quality pioneer? No way again. However I do come to the same conclusion that vmoda is the best bang for ur buck, but I like the m 80's over the lp2's and they're cheaper. I dont think that guy has done alot of headphone reviews.
WarpNote 5:09 AM - 6 December, 2012
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I dont think that guy has done alot of headphone reviews.
+1, think he's more of a journalist, than a DJ, to tell you the truth...
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:09 AM - 6 December, 2012
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I dont think that guy has done alot of headphone reviews.
+1, think he's more of a journalist, than a DJ, to tell you the truth...



speaking of which didnt sixxx find a pair on the back of a truck and promise us a review?
WarpNote 5:12 AM - 6 December, 2012
To busy with his oranges for the holiday season?
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:15 AM - 6 December, 2012
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mabye there was an issue durring production of the sixxx - orange julius editions...probably signed guetta over him last minute
antimatter 8:26 AM - 23 December, 2012
So here's my review or picks for can choices for dj's.

Budget cans: At $65 you have the sony mdr-v6 and koss dj pro100. Both are excellent values, sound good, comfy, and sturdy. I would go for the sony's if your head and ears are on the smaller size. The cal's (creative aurvana live) also deserve a mention.

Beginer cans: At $100 the sennheiser hd 280, audio technica ath m50, and akg 181dj are excellent values. The bass boost on the akg's make them my choice for sq. The m50 and 280 are built sturdier though imo. Sennheiser also has a great parts depatment.

Amatuer cans: At $150 the v-moda m-80 crossfade and ultrasone djpro1 are great buys. The m-80 crossfade is built like a tank, comfy, and has great sq. The djpro1 is not quite as comfortable, not quite as tank like, but has a lil bit better sq. and to me is the first headphone pricewise that gives the user a glimpse at a decent soundstage.

Pro cans: At $200 the sennheiser hd 25II's and fischer fa-003's are solid purchases. The problem with the fischers is that they are hard to come by and the supposed clones really fall short imo. The hd 25II's have been a dj staple for years and I still dont see anything else out there that compete's except maybe the beyerdynamics 1350. Just be aware that the sennheiser and beyer are on-ear not over-ear.

Premium cans: At $300-$400. Surprise no ultrasone. Why? I recently tried out the v-moda m100 and wow is all I can say. This headphone seriously adresses every dj headphone issue. Very comfortable, has the most unique bulletproof hinges I've ever seen which is where 90% of your breaks are going to occur, and damn near audiophile quality sound with no amp. At the time I bought my ultrasone pro 900 they were the best $350 can around but with all its little quirks the best grade I can give it is a B. These m100's are an A+.
antimatter 9:03 AM - 23 December, 2012
Can's you should avoid: Anything beats, and I know beats brought in allot of people into the world of headphones that otherwise wouldn't, but there's just way better values out there. Anything on my list beginer or above will smoke a beats heaphone in terms of comfort, durrability, and sq. Sony also gets this excpet for their cheap v6's and their ultra expensive R10's and the xb 1000's. V-moda anything with an lp in the name. Audio technica ath-w5000. Ultrasone ed.8 and 10. Brainwavs hm-5.
Dj AR1 5:41 PM - 23 December, 2012
HDJ-2000
djaction 2:40 AM - 24 December, 2012
djaction 3:06 AM - 24 December, 2012
antimatter 11:32 AM - 24 December, 2012
The hdj-2000's aren't bad but they felt awfully flimsy to me and there's quite a few people on here that had problems with the hinges breaking after only a year of use. If pioneer would beef up the hinges or some hedphone geek came up with a diy job maybe I would consider them. They are extrmely comfortable but as of right now $200 is about the most their worth. I haven't tried the momentums, they and the akg k267 are on my to listen to list. I have hard time believing they're going to beat the m-100 though. They are seriously some bad ass cans.
djaction 2:56 PM - 24 December, 2012
yeah the M100's i think are going to be my nice purchase.


all the audophiles out there give it semi bad reviews because they say its too bass heavy (almost like drte's) but for a DJ that may not be a bad thing.

i'd really like to see a review by a DJ comparing the Seinhesser Momentum's vs the M100's.. like I said the only comparison I've seen was done by an audiophile.. and OUR needs as DJ's can be a bit different.
djaction 3:23 PM - 24 December, 2012
ive also heard the momentums wont fit anyone with avg to large ears
antimatter 4:51 AM - 25 December, 2012
Yeah the m100's are a bit v shaped in their sound but I cant say their as v-shaped as my pro 900's. The mid's are a bit more forward but abit less detailed, the treble is better, and the bass not quite as good quantity wise but quailty its even. Then again I also got dynamat xtreme in my 900's. Momentums look solid but at $399 I doubt there much better than the $220 hd 25II's and the vmoda's sq is better than a hd 25II's. Also while I like sennheiser with their part department being the shit they have reeeally clamped down on pricing and I think by this time next year you will see a drastic price difference between a m-100 and a momentum. Which audiophile gave them a soso sq review djaction? I really found them to be quite refined and silky sq wise.
antimatter 7:10 AM - 29 December, 2012
Ok so now I know why the m-100's got soso sq reviews. When I originally listened to them I was at my buddies audio store and he had a couple loud systems kickin in the background. They sounded amazing in that enviroment. Afterwards I took them home for a bedroom session where its quiet and the soundstage, imaging, and seperation is all messed up on them. I would'nt even say theyr'e m-80 quality. If you are one of the lucky few that plays out more than practices in the bedroom then these are still grade A badass headphones. But if your like me and its viceversa then ultrasone pro750/900 with a portable amp is still the best purchase. The pro 750 also has hit record low pricing as of late. Catdogit emerica I really thought I had found the one. Back to the hunt....shit this sucks.
antimatter 6:48 AM - 30 December, 2012
So scratch what I said above. It was my headphone amp!? I've heard of some headphones being amp picky but I didn't think it would be this headphone. Kindof a deal breaker for me. I only spent a hundo on my headphone amp but would still like a headphone that gets better with it not worse...oh well.
antimatter 6:54 AM - 6 January, 2013
So I have had some time with some new headphones that came out and there is definitly a clear winner. The mad dog by mr.speakers is extremely tough, comfortable, portable, and has amazing sound. They do need a headphone amp but most portable non-tube amps seems to mate well with these. If an amp is just out of the question then the akg k267 tiesto's for comfort and V-moda m-100 for toughness. The tiesto's do house and trace better and the m-100's do dub and d&b better but I think the comfort/toughness question should be answered first. Momentums: Awesome headphone, not for dj's.
DjCity 1:05 AM - 9 January, 2013
I'm still loving my AIAIAI's
The Beats PRO's are still going strong.

I'm looking into in ear cans now but I don't have a clue about them so whoever knows, pull my coat to earbuds for Dj'ing.

What's good? What to look for in a pair? What to stay away from? How do they REALLY work for Dj'ing i n a club or party?

What brands should I look into? Beats is NOT what i'm looking for in earbuds. I will be using them for DJ'ing... Not for my phone or an ipod.

What do you all have to say on this?
antimatter 2:08 AM - 9 January, 2013
Silly dj city iem's are for kids
DjCity 2:31 AM - 9 January, 2013
O.k.

What the hell is a iem?
DjCity 3:19 AM - 9 January, 2013
Just figured it out.

In Ear Monitors.

I still really wanna know about using them for Dj'ing
antimatter 6:26 AM - 9 January, 2013
Well iv'e tried out 7 iem's and not impressed. The only ones that impressed me was a $350 pair of sony's my friend got for $150. I cant remember the model name but it had 3 or 4 drivers and a port coming out the side.
antimatter 6:27 AM - 9 January, 2013
Heir audio supposedly makes some good ones but I haven't heard any and their quite pricey.
eugguy 5:56 AM - 13 January, 2013
Big boys can afford good iems. Try Westone 3 iems. Good for electronic-house-hiphop. I have the um3x. For what it's worth, they are more for live use on stage. It is a different method of mixing, cueing with iems. There are plenty of good iems that can work.
antimatter 11:50 AM - 13 January, 2013
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Big boys can afford good iems. Try Westone 3 iems. Good for electronic-house-hiphop. I have the um3x. For what it's worth, they are more for live use on stage. It is a different method of mixing, cueing with iems. There are plenty of good iems that can work.


Yeah sorry bout that dj city. Im just not an iem fan and what little expierence I got hasn't benn a good expierience so far. Eugguy if your still on a headphone hunt my just recently ended with the Mad Dogs by mr. speakers. I think I remenber reading you have or have access to headphone amps. These work really well with most SS cheap portables. Plus mr. speakers has a 15 day risk free trial and only charged $9 to ship them to me and they got here really quick.
Dj Nyce 5:33 PM - 13 January, 2013
yes big boys can def afford good iems.

proud owner of the shure se535 special editions and they sound amazing
DjCity 10:16 AM - 14 January, 2013
@djNyce
The shures are one of the pair i'm looking into. This and the westone 4.

Iem's can't be returned onec opened so I'm trying to make sure of what I get before getting it.

$499 would be an expensive oops to make of I find out I don't like them or there not gonna serve my purpose.

Nyce...
Can you be a little more in depth about your iem's? How they sound in comparison to regular headphones, how they really are for dj'ing, comfort, convenience,... All that.
antimatter 11:11 AM - 14 January, 2013
Saw a lightly used pair of those shure's with allot of accessories for $400.
eugguy 1:23 AM - 20 January, 2013
Thanks Antimatter. I've heard good things about the mad dogs. I'll check them out. Iems are definetly a personal choice. Totally different sound and way to listen to songs you love. To songs in better detail makes me happy.
antimatter 6:42 AM - 20 January, 2013
Just got a demo half priced portable adl stride to go with the mad dogs and my moded pro 900's. Blissfull. And what I wrote about the akg k267 above was actually the K167. Still think my headphone hunt is done but damn I'm kinda wondering how good a K267 is if the cheaper K167 impressed me so much. Last thing on my list is to outfit my pro 900's with a pair of Audeze LCD-2 veagan pads, still researching that. My LA-D2k's and ultimate cmoy amp are gone now but I think I got a way better setup now for less money. Mad dogs for bedroom and pro 9's for beatport and playing out.
antimatter 6:47 AM - 20 January, 2013
Oh and the amperiors are the seenheisers you wann get if you dj, not the momentums(unless you are realllllly careful with your headphones. A decent step up from the hd-25 1 II's
eugguy 10:56 AM - 20 January, 2013
I like your style antimatter. I've actually been eyeing the 267s for a while. I'll wait for some comparisons. As a previous 167 owner, I can say I wasn't impressed. I was expecting more. People said it sounded like an audiophile can. I have a sennheiser 600, that is more audiophilic to me. I'm looking into the 267 as a possibility. Reviews also say the 267 sound like the 167. I'm hoping they pump more volume and bass quality/quantity so I can both listen and dj with them. I've also had hd25s for 7 years. Solid phones, both on the build and sound. Can't ever go wrong with those. My fav is still the akg181, but I will need to be changing things up soon. I'm wondering how the lcd2 sounds, and also hifiman 400/500s. If there was a headphone that sounded clean, and full with a bit of openness and separation, I'd buy. Hopefully, the 267 punches me in the face so I can stop this headphone hunt.
DJ Dub Cowboy 11:49 AM - 20 January, 2013
you guys took this thread into some serious headphone nerdery. respect
antimatter 7:10 PM - 20 January, 2013
The mad dogs are a mini lcd2, a third of the price, closed instead of open, and easier to amp. I got the mad dogs and my demo adl stride amp/dac for $528 shiped. LCD-2 combo your prob lookin at $1300-$1500 and probaly desktop vs. portable. The hifiman he-400 probably is the best bang for your buck headphone out there but it's open like the LCD-2's. These are the speediest headphones out there and speed and techno go very very well together, but you wont see any of these headphones true potential til ya find the right amp or amp/dac combo. I can verify personally that mad dogs and stride work awesome together.
antimatter 7:29 PM - 20 January, 2013
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you guys took this thread into some serious headphone nerdery. respect

Yeah we did. But the way I see it I spent a grand each on my 2turntables, mixer, and labtop, almost a grand each on my serato, and portable sound. Add in my odyssey coffin/stand, tascam 900sl, and vinyl collection and ya got almost another 2G's. Why not a grand on headphones, especially after I got over 6 solid years with my technics. Also I didn't get just 1 set of headphones I got 2 headphones, a portable amp/dac, 2 cables, and a nice headphone stand.
WarpNote 7:50 PM - 20 January, 2013
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you guys took this thread into some serious headphone nerdery. respect

Re-Tracking thread...
eugguy 10:39 PM - 20 January, 2013
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you guys took this thread into some serious headphone nerdery. respect


Hahaha. I'm somewhat of a headphone gigolo. I put my head in between those soft lil cushions in the search for perfect audio sex. Never satisfied with what I hear. I feel like I'll never find the one, gotta keep searching. Sound is subjective, like many of the other senses...so what sounds good to one's ear's sounds like cacophony to another's.

Antimatter, your comments re:headphones is making my wallet thinner as we speak! Peace!
antimatter 6:12 AM - 21 January, 2013
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you guys took this thread into some serious headphone nerdery. respect

If it saves even 1 dj from spending over $100 on a beats pro then it's all been worth it.
antimatter 6:22 AM - 21 January, 2013
Also before anyone gets an itch to but a headphone amp I want to really stress that my pro 900's and mad dogs are defintly the exception to the rule and not the norm. Some mite even say that it takes those 2 headphones out of the dj headphone niche but I disagree. 99% of dj headphones ARE easy to drive and you will benefit much more from a portable dac than you will from an amp. My personal recomendation is the jds labs odac. At $149 its decently affordable and there isn't a easy to drive headphone out the less than $400 that it cant max out. Even if u own $100 pair of hd280 pros, m50's,rpdj1200, or k181dj's you are going to see significant improvment, and if you own some higherend models like the amperiors or m-100's watch the funk out cause that's a really serious setup.
DJ GaFFle 12:28 PM - 21 January, 2013
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...Some mite even say that it takes those 2 headphones out of the dj headphone niche but I disagree. 99% of dj headphones ARE easy to drive and you will benefit much more from a portable dac than you will from an amp...

Help me to understand something... why in the WORLD do headphone nerds by amps for their HeAdPhOnEs ?!?!?

That seems like a sure-fire path to going deaf.
WarpNote 12:35 PM - 21 January, 2013
Why do you need amps for you speakers? L.O.L
Its about sound quality, not allways the db....
DJ GaFFle 12:46 PM - 21 January, 2013
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Why do you need amps for you speakers? L.O.L
Its about sound quality, not allways the db....

My speakers play out for crowds of 50-1000 ppl, whereas headphones are on my head attached directly to my ears. I don't see where huge gains in sound quality would come with a headphone amps vs. the headphone output of my Rane TTM57.

Is this an issue where the people and headphones that require amps are usually played on non-DJ equipment (ie: like audiophile components) that have very weak headphone output volumes? Maybe I'll just have to hear a headphone amp vs. a mixer's headphone output to hear what the deal is.
WarpNote 12:48 PM - 21 January, 2013
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s this an issue where the people and headphones that require amps are usually played on non-DJ equipment (ie: like audiophile components) that have very weak headphone output volumes?
Exactly... when using ipods etc... No point in using an extra headphone amp with a rane mixer...
antimatter 2:20 PM - 21 January, 2013
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s this an issue where the people and headphones that require amps are usually played on non-DJ equipment (ie: like audiophile components) that have very weak headphone output volumes?
Exactly... when using ipods etc... No point in using an extra headphone amp with a rane mixer...

Unless you have a really hard dj headphone to drive like the mad dogs or pro 900's but those are probably the only 2 you are ever going to come across and that's the only thing I think that is keeping them from being tru dj headphones. Most dj headphones have a impendance of 30ohms or less where the pro 900's and mad dogs are 40 and 64ohms that coupled with a lil xtra bass equals a hard to drive headphone even for my pio djm 600 which is no slouch mixer wise.
antimatter 2:29 PM - 21 January, 2013
Like I said before 99% of dj headphones dont need amping they need dacing. You can get a koss prodj100 for $59 on amazon and build your own odac in less than an hour for $99 and you will probably see better results than a stock hdj-2000. Even if you get the built one for $149 its still probably cheaper.
WarpNote 2:41 PM - 21 January, 2013
Considering getting the Pro 900´s for listening purposes and my home setup. Are you saying I would need an amp/dac when using it with my Sixty Eight? Been using HD25 for the last 6 years or so...
antimatter 3:15 PM - 21 January, 2013
Yes the pro 900's would definitly benfit more from an amp or amp/dac mor than a dac alone. Personally I like the pro 900's on the road more than at home, that's mad dog territory. The v-shaped sound and incredible detail make beatmatching a breeze they're are also more volume friendly than the mad dogs going to near ear bleed level before any distortion, dont recommend it just trust me.
antimatter 3:18 PM - 21 January, 2013
As for your mixer I have to the pro 900's at 75% on my djm-600, not as bad as my mad dogs 90%, but with my stride 40% on both.
WarpNote 3:47 PM - 21 January, 2013
Before getting the 68, I actually had the DJM600.
Wasn´t to impressed with the sound from that mixer,
both master out and the headphones...

Anyone else using a amp/dac with the 68 headphone output?
...worth it? ...or overkill?
DJ GaFFle 4:48 PM - 21 January, 2013
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Before getting the 68, I actually had the DJM600.
Wasn´t to impressed with the sound from that mixer,
both master out and the headphones...

Anyone else using a amp/dac with the 68 headphone output?
...worth it? ...or overkill?

Okay, humor me... would you really want to carry around a headphone amp along with your standards DJ setup, just to get extra 'sound quality' from your headphones?

That headphone amp needs to be plugged into a power source as well which is extra clutter. All of this while playing in loud environments and listening to crappy mp3's? Overkill IMO.
WarpNote 5:23 PM - 21 January, 2013
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Okay, humor me... would you really want to carry around a headphone amp along with your standards DJ setup, just to get extra 'sound quality' from your headphones?

No way, remember, I wrote:
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Considering getting the Pro 900´s for listening purposes and my home setup.

I don´t "listen" at gigs, I cue and match tempo....
Considering for home/studio use ONLY....
DJ GaFFle 5:26 PM - 21 January, 2013
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Okay, humor me... would you really want to carry around a headphone amp along with your standards DJ setup, just to get extra 'sound quality' from your headphones?

No way, remember, I wrote:
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Considering getting the Pro 900´s for listening purposes and my home setup.

I don´t "listen" at gigs, I cue and match tempo....
Considering for home/studio use ONLY....

Home/studio... gotcha.
antimatter 5:44 PM - 21 January, 2013
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Before getting the 68, I actually had the DJM600.

Wasn´t to impressed with the sound from that mixer,

both master out and the headphones...



Anyone else using a amp/dac with the 68 headphone output?

...worth it? ...or overkill?

Personally if your lookin for an over ear replacement for your hd-25 1 II's I would recomend the Koss djpro1+ odac combo. Koss makes a great headphone stock but it's usually bested by quite a margin by the 4 $100 headphones I mentioned above. Maxed out on an odac that big margin gets whitled down to about zero. It's really a sleeper headphone.
Okay, humor me... would you really want to carry around a headphone amp along with your standards DJ setup, just to get extra 'sound quality' from your headphones?



That headphone amp needs to be plugged into a power source as well which is extra clutter. All of this while playing in loud environments and listening to crappy mp3's? Overkill IMO.
antimatter 5:46 PM - 21 January, 2013
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That headphone amp needs to be plugged into a power source as well which is extra clutter. All of this while playing in loud environments and listening to crappy mp3's? Overkill IMO.

Everything I mentioned is battery powered, no more bothersome than carrying around you cell phone.
WarpNote 6:26 PM - 21 January, 2013
Love my hd25´s for gigging, but still interested in trying out something else for the fun of it.
Not really looking for a replacement. Before getting the hd25´s, I was going through a pair every year/second year. The 25 are built so well, I haven´t yet had the need to change (appart from cable & pads).

So, guess Its more to satisfy my curiosity when it comes to new cans, loads been released since I got the Senn´s
antimatter 7:11 PM - 21 January, 2013
Amperiors are a decent stepup and very similar to your hd25's. If you have heard the beats pro the pro 900 is very similar except 3 times the speed, detail, and clarity. Anyone try out the new monster diamond tears yet? From what I've read monster has somewhat redeemed themselves for the beats fiasco.
Kepik 7:26 PM - 21 January, 2013
Monster took into consideration the negative flack from Beats about having too much bass. Has anybody tried the rest of Monster's headphones? Didn't Beats and Monster split partnerships?
dj-freestyle 7:38 PM - 21 January, 2013
Ya dre didnt renew contract and they split.
dj-freestyle 7:40 PM - 21 January, 2013
@warp, are these the 25's, Sennheiser HD 25-SP II
WarpNote 9:31 PM - 21 January, 2013
I would stay away from the SP´s for serious dj use...

You want the HD 25-1 II -> www.sennheiserusa.com
Actually got myself 2 pairs, regular cable and a coiled one.
Personally I prefer the regular over the coiled, to be honest.
WarpNote 9:42 PM - 21 January, 2013
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Amperiors are a decent stepup and very similar to your hd25's.

Appart from the looks, alu build, impedance 70 Ω vs 18Ωs, iphone mic and weight, what would you say is the main differences? Ie any major difference in the sound? And is it worth the $100 markup?
WarpNote 9:50 PM - 21 January, 2013
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. If you have heard the beats pro the pro 900 is very similar except 3 times the speed, detail, and clarity.

I didn´t really like the beats myself. So might be looking at a disapointment then.... I´ve tried another older pair Ultrasone´s (cant remember model) that I liked a lot... Guess I´ll just have to go to a store and listen to them first hand.... Did you ever try the 700´s?
antimatter 7:53 AM - 22 January, 2013
WarpNote all of your comments remind me of me before I went on my headphone hunt. Your really attached to your hd 25's but are wondering what's right for you if you decide to take the next step and go with something else. You can definitly make me a list of headphones you are interested in and chances are pretty good I have tried them and I can gice you a decent review but the fact of the matter is is that everyone's ears are different i.e. I thought the rane mixer had better faders but I actually prefer the sound of my djm-600. I also did some research on the hd 25's sinc it had been a wile since I heard them and what I found out actually shocked me. The hd 25's have an impendace of 70 ohms!! Which should make them harder to drive than my pro 900's and mad dogs. But they also have have an spl of 120db/mw which kindof makes up for that. If you do decide your ready for somthin new try out 2 things first with your hd 25. One is the jds labs c421 headphone amp. They're cheap, portable, run on batteries and from what I've read matches up well with the hd 25's. Two if your budget allows it try out an audioengine D1 dac. It's very small as well and doesn't run on batteries or ac adapter, it uses your usb out your Mac/PC to power itself, super easy to use, and you can connect it to your home stereo and take your mp3's to a whole new level. After those 2 then go on a headphone hunt.
antimatter 8:22 AM - 22 January, 2013
Oh snap I forgot the most important thing. With the amp and dac I mentioned you'll have to buy 1 or 2 cables, DO NOT BUY ADAPTERS and a cheap cable to connect your headphones to these devices, you will lose all your fidelity. Grado and sennheiser make 1/8in. male to 1/4in. female cables for $15-$20. With the amp you will need that and a 1/4in. male to 1/8in. male cable, pretty sure the rane has 1/4in headphone out. I got mine 1.5 ft. from markertek.com for $26 but that was overkill. If you like the markertek cable make sure you get the TRS not the TS plug, the TS is mono and you will only get sound from the left side.
antimatter 12:49 PM - 22 January, 2013
I made a mistake with that odac that was the o2 amp + odac dac combo I tried out and its $275 and doesn't run on batteries. There aren't to many portable dac units out there and the ones that are out there are really expensive. The market is pretty much dominated by amps and amp/dac combos but some are mostly dac, I think fio makes a mostly dac model I wanna say E11.
Dave The One 2:36 PM - 22 January, 2013
The best way to buy headphones is to audition them.

Dj headphones need to be matched to the type of monitors/speakers you're using if you really care about not only how you'll hear your mixes but how everyone else will.

9 times out of 10 pro venues match their booth speakers with the house speakers and the sweet spot so that levels eq can be properly adjusted. And this isn't just done by ear, physics, math and electronics are involved.

Call me crazy but I never stick to one pair of headphones for deejaying. I have four pairs of headphones, The Sony MDR 7506, The Sony v700's, Beats By Dre Pro Limited edition (Black Detox) and Bose Quiet comfort 15.

My real use are for quickly pitching/beat matching and use them in conjunction with the booth speakers again for short periods of time; things change when you are using different mixers or dj controllers. One thing I make time for are sound tests, getting to the venue early or day/days ahead of time if the venue permits for sound checks, record a 5-10 minute set in Serato or if you're plugging in with Traktor and Theres a Serato setup it's even more important to conduct a sound test. I'll first listen to the booth speakers and make my selection if headphones right then and there. If they have shitty monitors I'll use whatever headphones sound as close to the floor speakers as possible. Mix up a set play it back and listen from the dance floor help me decide on whether I'll rely on booth, headphones or both.

Right now I use a dj controller at home with event 20/20 BAS monitors tuned to how my beats by Dre pro sound. Oh the dj controller is the ddj sx, before that I had ns6. I also have a FireWire solo sound card and I tune my 20/20's according to the MDR 7506 for producing.

This thread is full of great headphone recommendations. But there isn't one magic headphone just as there isn't one magic speaker. Yamaha NS10, Event 20/20 BAS, Mackie HR 824, KRK's. People will argue forever.

I say audition your headphones based on your space or the venues space and the quality of the monitors you'll be using them with.

Peace
antimatter 5:15 AM - 23 January, 2013
So I hung out with a couple of headphone experts in my area and Iam all wrong on this dac deal. They said I was using my djm-600 mixer as my dac and not the dac on my stride. They didn't see a way of hooking up the dac to my system either. So I guess the difference in sound was just the strides amp. My heaphone out area on my mixer does get hot fast when it is cranked with my pro 900 and mad dogs. If your mixer does the same a portable headphone amp probably isn't a bad idea. I also see very dramatic changes in sound now going from amped to unamped now that I've had it for a week and its for the better. The crapy part is you have to look up which amp synergizes best with your headphones, some combinations are bad. Still definitly feel like I got my $219 worth out of my stride and so did the guys that tried out my setup. They also said my la-2000 was the best closed headphone they have ever heard which was pretty sweet.
WarpNote 3:01 PM - 23 January, 2013
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thought the rane mixer had better faders but I actually prefer the sound of my djm-600.
Well, I guess we differ here, my old 600 sounded a lot more muffled, and not as clear as the 68 IMO. The 68 does maybe sound a bit "warmer" too, but I could be dreaming, it´s few years since I used the 600 in a studio environment, and most of my venues switched for 700 or 800 by now...

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hd 25's have an impendace of 70 ohms!!
I know, right? Still easy driven... Amperiors are 18Ω in comparison, same SPL. So the Amperiors should be really loud and easily driven then?

@Dave The One, absolutely agree on the audition part. I think my first pair of DJ phones was either the Sony v700 or the Sony MDR 7506. I really like the MDR 7506 and went through 2 pairs of those, and those are rugged built. The v700´s died rather quick. Also used the Technics RP DJ 1210 alot back then.

@antimatter, kinda confused about this whole amp or dac or both, scenario. I´m gonna hold on to my hd25´s, and might add pro900. Will also try to have a look at V-Moda and aiaiai.

Got some cheap KRK Rokit 6´s for desktop use. Not using a dedicated soundcard for them, just a nanopatch for volume. Would be nice to hook up something that could serve both for the speakers (balanced out) and the headphones.

Spent quite some time on www.head-fi.org forums, but the info was overwhelming, so kinda let it go. Still interested in some advice for a portable DAC and/or AMP with the pro900´s/hd25´s and iphone/ipod touch...

So basically, one desktop solution, maybe add a portable and even add a new set of cans...
eugguy 9:11 PM - 23 January, 2013
Antimatter, how would you compare the MadDogs to the AKG 181s? You mentioned my ears might like what the MadDogs sound like. Is there a similarity in sound, sound pressure, bass? Or is the MadDog more audiophile sounding? I do appreciate a good headphone ear massage. I'm seriously considering the MadDogs over the akg267, as I'm hearing the akg267 isn't as impressive as everyone is making it out to be. They say the 267 is close in sound to the 167.

I've already bought and returned the 167, not impressed. Also in past month have bought and returned pro900s, denon d600, d2000, d5000, vmoda m100s...few others but those are the more popular models. I want something with a nice, heavy, full bodied sound without drowning out detail. I'm rocking a xone 92, also have a c421 headphone amp...a very good piece of kit.
antimatter 7:16 AM - 24 January, 2013
The best way I can describe the mad dogs is that there not v-shaped, there not u shaped, there a figity flatlined headphone and they seriously are flat at least across the mids. The sub bass has a lil bump in it, it's very subtle not allot of impact like my pro 900's, but it has such deep extension. The treble is a bit rolled off at the upper reaches but I love it for that reason because my ears are sensitive to upper treble, mid and lower treble sparkle. Mids are as flat as flat can get everything is right where it needs to be. Everything is soo fast and smooth out of the mad dogs. If I had to describe my pro 900's in two words "detail kings" the mad dogs "smigidy smooth" it takes 300 bpm hardcore and craps black silk. You lucky bastard you got c421. I was kind of debating on selling my stride for more than what I paid for it and going after that since I found out I only use the amp out of it and not the dac. Read allot of good things about the c421 and its still $50 less than my half priced stride but jds stopped makin it. I think I'm going to hold on to my stride though cause the amp does synergize well and I'm a really big fan of its 80hr. battery life. Anywho it would surpize me quite a bit if mad dogs + c421 doesn't equal a beast. I also have the dog pad version which is $299 and comes with real leather ear pads and supposedly some extra bass. There is also mad dogs with shure 840 ear pads for $263.
antimatter 7:37 AM - 24 January, 2013
Warpnote I totally screwed up on that whole dac thing. If you run a dj serato setup you can't add a dac into the mix. The guys I spoke to a couple of days ago said the dac and amp out of my mixer should be more than enuff to handle my headphones but after I showed them hot it can get after 40 min. of having the headphone gain at 80-90% which is what the mad dogs and pro 9's required. I also explained to them that this heat can take time off your mixer's lifespan they said it probably wasn't a bad idea that I got an amp. I worked really hard to afford that mixer new 7 years ago, I would like to see it last as long as possible. I did get to try out the amp and dac on my stride on beatport and my djm-600's dac is about equivilent. There's a slight improvment in quaility but I have to add allot more volume I guess cause my mixers amp is better than my labtop which makes sense. The c421 amp eugguy has is the one I would recommend based off what I read, it seems to mate well with hd25's, pro 900's, mad dogs, etc. but jds labs stoped making it. New the c421 goes for $175, mite send jds an email and see whatsup.
eugguy 7:45 AM - 24 January, 2013
Thanks for the words again Antimatter. I like the way the maddogs sound from your description. I got the jds labs c421 (ad8620 version) and am very pleased with the sound. I just checked the website and it is out of stock, wow. I actually order one of the first new batches of the black version. I even spoke with John the owner of jds, super nice guy who is genuine and makes a genius solid product. Glad I picked this portable amp instead of any of the other ones out there. Even the bass boost is very smooth and well done. Great detail is in the ad8620 chip. So in conjunction with maddogs I can see where you say these would be the cat's meow. I remember from when I tried the pro900s two weeks ago and then owning it also 4 months ago, that it was a bit sibilant. Also bass was different to me than what I am used to hearing. In the maddogs the roll off on the treble sounds more my style. People are comparing it "almost" to an lcd2/3 which is crazy because the maddogs are 1/4 the price. I've also been eyeing the Lcds, but would need to look for a serious desktop amp.
antimatter 7:50 AM - 24 January, 2013
Few more things I wanna say bout the mad dogs. Yes they're modded fostex t50rp headphones but Mr.speakers is the only modder I kno of that will let you try them out free for 15 days. You also mite as well get the $9 shipping cause I ordered mine on 12/30 and got them on 1/3 pretty fast. The last thing is that there is only one other headphone that has a frequency response like these and that's the audeze. Audeze's are very expensive and open back which lets sound go in and out freely and they have massive earcups that will touch the backs of you eyes making one ear monitioring a bitch.
antimatter 7:55 AM - 24 January, 2013
Warpnote I would also recomend the ultrasone pro 750 over the 900 unless you spin mostly rap, d&b, breakbeat bass heavy music. The 900's v-shaped sound helps out in noisy enviroments but house and trance are better through the 750's.
WarpNote 8:56 AM - 24 January, 2013
Thanks for the advice antimatter. Very interested in the mad dogs now, Heard good stuff about the pro 700 before aswell. Might actually end up with a few different pairs. Will make that list soon :)
DJ GaFFle 2:17 PM - 24 January, 2013
New headphones for us non-audiophile DJ's: www.inmusicbrands.com

...MPC Pro Headphones feature powerful 50mm drivers and an over-the-ear design for premium isolation and comfort in the studio... Both feature Akai Professional's unmatched expertise in tuning and frequency response, as well as fully adjustable headbands, pivoting ear cups, and gunmetal aluminum and steel construction for a solid, comfortable fit...

Full metal construction should be a prerequisite for those that don't like the typical and disposable plastic headphones that eventually break.
antimatter 2:53 PM - 24 January, 2013
Those look interesting. Im still more interested in the diamond tears though.
antimatter 3:11 PM - 24 January, 2013
Waprnote after thinking about it for a wile the beyer 1350's are probably the better upgrade from hd 25's than the amperiors. Youn kno the germans always make good stuff.
antimatter 1:00 PM - 25 January, 2013