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Traktor Kontrol X1
VJ Justin Allen
7:42 PM 3 February 2010
It's been ordered and should be here early next week. Full report will be coming then.
I think it will blow the Denon HC1000 out of the water.
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I think it will blow the Denon HC1000 out of the water.
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daft_soul
8:23 PM 3 February 2010
Does seem pretty nasty. Only thing that I don't like about the serato preset is I don't see a dedicated loop on/off or am I wrong?
VJ Justin Allen
8:25 PM 3 February 2010
Not sure yet. But it's 100% programmable and comes with a blank overlay...so you can just set it up the way you want to if something is not there.
Konix
8:50 PM 3 February 2010
Already got one, it's pretty cool, better than my former Xone:1D that's for sure.
monkeybiz
8:53 PM 3 February 2010
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Not sure yet. But it's 100% programmable and comes with a blank overlay...so you can just set it up the way you want to if something is not there.The overlay is just a .pdf, not a physical overlay. So if you want to print one out and go through all the joy of cutting lots of circles and rectangles out, it's great that way, I guess.
I picked one up recently after I tried it out. You can load the SSL preset that comes on the disc, but you'll probably still have to assign a few parameters from scratch, like loop length via the knobs. To do that, ignore NI's controller setup software after you install the SSL preset file, then just assign the controls in Scratch Live's MIDI assign mode. Once I got that done, it's been great fun to use, but I'm a bit annoyed by the sketchy setup process and the lack of a physical overlay in the box. I have yet to hear from NI as to why they didn't include one as their website says.
Dj-M.Bezzle
8:55 PM 3 February 2010
the setup is what makes me not want one, i LOVE my 1000 but im eyeballing this
DjWoody
8:59 PM 3 February 2010
Isn't funny how when I first posted about the X1 I got flammed by a lot of you. And now that it's out, all of the sudden lots of you want it. lol
Eitherway, I'm getting one. HEHEHE!!!
Eitherway, I'm getting one. HEHEHE!!!
VJ Justin Allen
9:14 PM 3 February 2010
I posted about it as well months ago..I too was flamed :)
It's all good. I look forward to what works for me, and based on the shortcomings of the Denon unit, I never bought it. This one looks like it will fit much better into my workflow, plus it also looks like it will fit nicer alongside my mixer...like it was naturally supposed to be there.
Konix, I look forward to your thoughts! Here are a few questions:
1) When you program it do you still get the light feedback?
2) does it have another midi page (page 2)
3) do the lights work on page 2 (if it exists)
4) can you tell what midi page you are on easily (a light perhaps)
It's all good. I look forward to what works for me, and based on the shortcomings of the Denon unit, I never bought it. This one looks like it will fit much better into my workflow, plus it also looks like it will fit nicer alongside my mixer...like it was naturally supposed to be there.
Konix, I look forward to your thoughts! Here are a few questions:
1) When you program it do you still get the light feedback?
2) does it have another midi page (page 2)
3) do the lights work on page 2 (if it exists)
4) can you tell what midi page you are on easily (a light perhaps)
DJ Quartz
9:32 PM 3 February 2010
Hey Guys,
If you have any questions or difficulties, please join forum and post your questions or concerns here.
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If you have any questions or difficulties, please join forum and post your questions or concerns here.
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Turn Table Tennis
9:38 PM 3 February 2010
my favorite part of traktor and native instruments.... is the dj rafik videos.
DjWoody
9:44 PM 3 February 2010
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I look forward to what works for me, and based on the shortcomings of the Denon unit, I never bought it.Same here.
Rebelguy
9:48 PM 3 February 2010
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I posted about it as well months ago..I too was flamed :)It's all good. I look forward to what works for me, and based on the shortcomings of the Denon unit, I never bought it. This one looks like it will fit much better into my workflow, plus it also looks like it will fit nicer alongside my mixer...like it was naturally supposed to be there.
Konix, I look forward to your thoughts! Here are a few questions:
1) When you program it do you still get the light feedback?
2) does it have another midi page (page 2)
3) do the lights work on page 2 (if it exists)
4) can you tell what midi page you are on easily (a light perhaps)
I find it interesting that you bought the unit without knowing the answers to those very major questions you posted. What shortcomings did you see in the Denon unit?
the_black_one
9:56 PM 3 February 2010
turntable,mixer,midi control,turntable, computer.
the order of my set up from left to right.I like how it sits between the mixer and turntable
the order of my set up from left to right.I like how it sits between the mixer and turntable
VJ Justin Allen
9:56 PM 3 February 2010
Rebelguy, those are not deal breakers for me.
First off the position of the Denon unit doesn't work for me. Placing it above or below my mixer isn't natural, but placing it along side of my mixer fits better for me.
Also the Kontrol X1 has the ability to let me program both ScratchLive and VSL controls on the same page in a more "organic" set-up. The Denon unit does not lend itself to that flexibility.
The other issues are just bonus issues. If they turn out to be solvable then that just makes for a better unit.
First off the position of the Denon unit doesn't work for me. Placing it above or below my mixer isn't natural, but placing it along side of my mixer fits better for me.
Also the Kontrol X1 has the ability to let me program both ScratchLive and VSL controls on the same page in a more "organic" set-up. The Denon unit does not lend itself to that flexibility.
The other issues are just bonus issues. If they turn out to be solvable then that just makes for a better unit.
Konix
11:49 PM 3 February 2010
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Konix, I look forward to your thoughts! Here are a few questions:1) When you program it do you still get the light feedback?
2) does it have another midi page (page 2)
3) do the lights work on page 2 (if it exists)
4) can you tell what midi page you are on easily (a light perhaps)
1) Unfortunately no, not until Scratch Live supports MIDI output feedback
2) Yes, two pages
3) No, see 1
4) Yes, the Hotcue button is the only one that lights up (green), signifying the X1 is in MIDI mode, pressing the Shift button on the X1 switches to the second page, and will light up white.
Overall though, it's still a great controller, definitely prefer it over the Denon HC1000. I prefer the vertical orientation of the X1 versus the horizontal orientation of the HC1000. And with effects coming in SSL 2.0, you're going to need a lot of knobs, which the Denon lacks. The X1 is solid yet lightweight. If you've ever played with NI's Maschine, the X1 is on par build-quality wise with it. If only it the LEDs light up, it would be perfect as it looks very nice when lit-up. But alas, the LEDs only work if you use Traktor.
VJ Justin Allen
12:41 AM 4 February 2010
Konix,
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions. It seems like it will be a great addition to my set-up.
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions. It seems like it will be a great addition to my set-up.
VJ Justin Allen
12:42 AM 4 February 2010
Hmm quick thought. Doesn't the Denon HC1000 light up in response to feedback from ScratchLive? Wouldn't that indicate that ScratchLive already supports MIDI output feedback?
the_black_one
12:46 AM 4 February 2010
^^^^ brings up a good point that makes me come to a conclusion....It's all about bandwidth.. SL1 and ttm57 are runing USB 1.0,they got video,and now efx on 1.0 bandwidth.thats damn good if you ask me.Now that the 68 and SL3 are 2.0 may be there will be enough bandwidth to make this happen?
Richard Schmidt
12:55 AM 4 February 2010
i have had one for over a week now the... running it with 2.0 there is no controller that comes close blows the denon away.... LED do work in serato.. the set up takes about 5 mins and u have total control over all the effects.. loops in out... samples... pithch bend... everything and anything u want.. once again the LEDs do light up in serato... learn your product b4 u post!
the_black_one
1:03 AM 4 February 2010
konix is wrong about the LED's? i find it very strange! not calling BS but I think Konix has gained a bunch of respect around here.
Konix
1:52 AM 4 February 2010
Well, I could be wrong, granted I've only played around with my X1 for a couple hours. If you got the LEDs to work Richard Schmidt, I'd be curious to know how (yikes, Konix doesn't know something!). Are you using the included SSL_X1.XML map NI provides, or mapping it yourself?
Also I noticed on my PC, the LEDs do not light up at all, however, on my Mac, all the buttons are very dimly lit, but they do not get brighter when pressed or anything. Strange. I'll mess around some more with the Control Editor for the X1 and see what I find.
The Denon does light up on it's default pre-mapped page as Serato wrote special drivers for it, the buttons don't light in the other normal MIDI pages though. So Serato could theoretically possibly write special drivers for the X1 if the demand is great enough for it.
Also I noticed on my PC, the LEDs do not light up at all, however, on my Mac, all the buttons are very dimly lit, but they do not get brighter when pressed or anything. Strange. I'll mess around some more with the Control Editor for the X1 and see what I find.
The Denon does light up on it's default pre-mapped page as Serato wrote special drivers for it, the buttons don't light in the other normal MIDI pages though. So Serato could theoretically possibly write special drivers for the X1 if the demand is great enough for it.
Richard Schmidt
2:22 AM 4 February 2010
no disrespect to konix however i do run it wit the LEDs on and very bright... i used the ssl.xml in the control editor mapped the effects knobs and everything my self just by hitting midi and turning the knob or hitting the button u want to midi map... just like u would map a nano control or aki mpd or mpk.. i have have them all
To get the LEDs to work u have to install traktor le which comes on the kontol x1 disc... go into the preferences and turn the LEDs up then closte traktor the LEDs will be on then switch back to serato and they remain on... this is for mac i can't resond to pc setup.
To get the LEDs to work u have to install traktor le which comes on the kontol x1 disc... go into the preferences and turn the LEDs up then closte traktor the LEDs will be on then switch back to serato and they remain on... this is for mac i can't resond to pc setup.
Konix
3:09 AM 4 February 2010
Well, I think we're talking about different things Richard. I've figured how to get all the lights to stay on and lit constantly (or all off), that's a preference in the Control Editor app (On-State brightness and Off-state brightness, which you can also set in Traktor as well), however, what we're talking about is getting the lights to act like in Traktor. That is, partially lit or not lit at all when not active, fully lit when active. And I'm happy to report I've got this working in Scratch Live, at least partially, took a bit of tweaking in the Control Editor app though. So, making progress.
VJ Justin Allen
12:16 PM 4 February 2010
Konix,
Is the control editor app shipped with the unit or are you talking about something else?
Is the control editor app shipped with the unit or are you talking about something else?
valdini
1:30 PM 4 February 2010
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Sounds like a winner in the midi control stakes...awaits Video for perfect setup and then I'm on it!
Looks like March is gonna be expensive...A&H: DX + X1... I better get gigging some more!
K
Sounds like a winner in the midi control stakes...awaits Video for perfect setup and then I'm on it!
Looks like March is gonna be expensive...A&H: DX + X1... I better get gigging some more!
K
Konix
2:17 PM 4 February 2010
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Konix,Is the control editor app shipped with the unit or are you talking about something else?
Yes, there's an app on the install CD that you use to edit the X1...i48.photobucket.com
VJ Justin Allen
2:20 PM 4 February 2010
Thanks. I saw that picture before but couldn't find the program to download it.
I'll be asking more questions next week :)
I'll be asking more questions next week :)
Dj-M.Bezzle
2:22 PM 4 February 2010
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^That's alright, I'll wait for Paul the DJ to make one.Quote:
^^^^ Not that clown. Waiting for Konix's SL bible vidLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dj-freestyle
5:03 PM 4 February 2010
Not say the x1 isnt dope but after usieng both love the denon for mobile gigs and clubs much more. easier to use with scratch live and mapped the second scene to effets was easy to ,i love it.
RogerRabbit
5:09 PM 4 February 2010
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Not say the x1 isnt dope but after usieng both love the denon for mobile gigs and clubs much more. easier to use with scratch live and mapped the second scene to effets was easy to ,i love it.There is not that many knobs on the denon unit, so I can still see it being limited.
dj-freestyle
5:12 PM 4 February 2010
sure the knob thing could be an issue but for a club dj or a mobile dj i lover it, there are enough knobs and pads for the effects i like to use and the denon is built so much better for being dragged around to gigs, its a tank. i love it like i said. works really well for what i need and had 3 empty scenes to map midi stuff so i love it
Dj-M.Bezzle
5:15 PM 4 February 2010
i LOVE the denon, its built like a tank and i love the natural feel with SL...that said i need more buttons and knobs for effects\video purposes.......i will be using both connected to a hub most likley like i am currently doing with the korg kontrol
RogerRabbit
5:19 PM 4 February 2010
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sure the knob thing could be an issue but for a club dj or a mobile dj i lover it, there are enough knobs and pads for the effects i like to use and the denon is built so much better for being dragged around to gigs, its a tank. i love it like i said. works really well for what i need and had 3 empty scenes to map midi stuff so i love itYeah I think that the difference between the x1 and the denon - more functions are available on the x1 especially for 2.0 without having to switch between scenes.
Konix
5:20 PM 4 February 2010
Well, I think the Denon is probably better suited if you're more interested in cue point/sample player triggering (bigger buttons), the X1 for effects (more knobs).
dj-freestyle
5:21 PM 4 February 2010
Makes sense, like i said ive used both and get the pros and cons of both. i have all denon stuff and love it,. its been a rock to me for 20 years so i stick with what works. Sure it would be nice to have more knobs and pads but when im doing clubs and gigs its just enough.
timbuktumusic
5:31 PM 5 February 2010
Hi guys,
got my X1 a few days ago and I love it.
Is there any possibility yet to use SSL's easter egg of Auto Loop with the controller? I'd love it if i just pressed shift while using the loop knob and it would auto loop instead of going back to the old position.
Any idea how to do that?
Tim
got my X1 a few days ago and I love it.
Is there any possibility yet to use SSL's easter egg of Auto Loop with the controller? I'd love it if i just pressed shift while using the loop knob and it would auto loop instead of going back to the old position.
Any idea how to do that?
Tim
the_black_one
6:37 PM 5 February 2010
not on the X1 but on another midi device that has a rotary knob
VJ Justin Allen
10:55 PM 5 February 2010
Tracking number received on my unit being shipped. Next week will be fun.
treeo730
3:32 AM 6 February 2010
anybody got that link for for the X1 vid by konix... I have the denon but with the new 2.0 i think we need more knobs
treeo730
3:42 AM 6 February 2010
i went tis youtube channel but he talks about midi mapping but not specific to the NI controller
Konix
5:34 AM 6 February 2010
I haven't made any videos yet for the X1, what do need help with though?
Billy18bm
6:03 AM 6 February 2010
i had seen a video on youtube the other day and the guy had it mounted right above his 57 and it had like a 45 degree angle, any idea how he did this? Does it come with a stand or something.
VJ Justin Allen
12:20 PM 6 February 2010
The only "stand" you can purchase made specifically for it is the bag from NI. It's a protective bag and a 3-4 inch block so that it's even with a mixer.
If someone had it at a 45 degree angle, this was something they did themselves.
If someone had it at a 45 degree angle, this was something they did themselves.
VJ Justin Allen
10:48 PM 9 February 2010
OK just received my Kontrol X1 and and juggling several things at once...but I plugged it in thinking that it would "automatically" work...and it doesn't.
I am positive this is operator error but anyone that has one know how to make the ScratchLive presets work?
I am positive this is operator error but anyone that has one know how to make the ScratchLive presets work?
Dj-M.Bezzle
10:55 PM 9 February 2010
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OK just received my Kontrol X1 and and juggling several things at once...but I plugged it in thinking that it would "automatically" work...and it doesn't.I am positive this is operator error but anyone that has one know how to make the ScratchLive presets work?
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Not sure yet. But it's 100% programmable and comes with a blank overlay...so you can just set it up the way you want to if something is not there.The overlay is just a .pdf, not a physical overlay. So if you want to print one out and go through all the joy of cutting lots of circles and rectangles out, it's great that way, I guess.
I picked one up recently after I tried it out. You can load the SSL preset that comes on the disc, but you'll probably still have to assign a few parameters from scratch, like loop length via the knobs. To do that, ignore NI's controller setup software after you install the SSL preset file, then just assign the controls in Scratch Live's MIDI assign mode. Once I got that done, it's been great fun to use, but I'm a bit annoyed by the sketchy setup process and the lack of a physical overlay in the box. I have yet to hear from NI as to why they didn't include one as their website says.
VJ Justin Allen
11:28 PM 9 February 2010
M.Bezzle thanks for the info. I actually found the SSL midi file in their folder and only had a few minutes to play with it.
This definitely will take some practice before going live with it...I can see me screwing up by adding a new song with just the push of a button :)
First quick impressions: Knobs and buttons feel nice and solid. It's a bit wider than I thought it would be, good weight, solid feel. It will take some time using it and I will certainly have to re-program it before using it.
I did receive the physical overlay in the box but I can see that I will not be using the SSL side, just the blank side. Also getting the light feedback to work will be a learning process as well.
WIll it be worth the money, very first, very quick run-thru says yes.....I hope to have a better feel for that by this weekend.
This definitely will take some practice before going live with it...I can see me screwing up by adding a new song with just the push of a button :)
First quick impressions: Knobs and buttons feel nice and solid. It's a bit wider than I thought it would be, good weight, solid feel. It will take some time using it and I will certainly have to re-program it before using it.
I did receive the physical overlay in the box but I can see that I will not be using the SSL side, just the blank side. Also getting the light feedback to work will be a learning process as well.
WIll it be worth the money, very first, very quick run-thru says yes.....I hope to have a better feel for that by this weekend.
bgardali
5:38 AM 11 February 2010
To get the all of the LED lights working on the X1 with Serato open the X1 control editor and change all of the buttons from 'gate' to 'toggle.' The LEDs will not work as they should. If this causes problems in Serato as far as the buttons' 'on' (lit) position not corresponding to the on position of the serato button, change the button's type to relative - binary offset within Serato. Good to go, gloooowing buttons. I like to keep my 'off' buttons at a dim level too so they're never fully off and my X1 looks sexy.
treeo730
5:41 AM 11 February 2010
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To get the all of the LED lights working on the X1 with Serato open the X1 control editor and change all of the buttons from 'gate' to 'toggle.' The LEDs will not work as they should. If this causes problems in Serato as far as the buttons' 'on' (lit) position not corresponding to the on position of the serato button, change the button's type to relative - binary offset within Serato. Good to go, gloooowing buttons. I like to keep my 'off' buttons at a dim level too so they're never fully off and my X1 looks sexy.video? Sorry I have denon controller but with new features in 2.0 trying to justify not switching to the X1, or to justify why I should. How does the autoloop work for you? and the loop roll? those functions are just so easy on the Denon... thanks
djdragon
5:44 AM 11 February 2010
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I haven't made any videos yet for the X1, what do need help with though?Holy Schmidt Konix get on that video LOL
bgardali
5:44 AM 11 February 2010
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The LEDs will not work as they should.This should have read: The LEDs will NOW work correctly.
djdragon
5:46 AM 11 February 2010
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I'll have videos up with the X1 and 2.0 in the next day or so.Overall before you do the video demo.
Yea or Ney on the X1?
Konix
5:49 AM 11 February 2010
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open the X1 control editor and change all of the buttons from 'gate' to 'toggle.'Yep, but this is only good for on/off type buttons. Which for things like turning on/off the FX is great, but most other functions (cue points, loops, etc.) work better as a trigger or gate.
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Overall before you do the video demo.Yea or Ney on the X1?
Overall Yea, depends on what you want from it though. FX? Most definitely.
livefast
5:51 AM 11 February 2010
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Does seem pretty nasty. Only thing that I don't like about the serato preset is I don't see a dedicated loop on/off or am I wrong?you push down on the top of the rotary knob to activate the loop, then turn clock wise to increase the size of the loop & counter to decrease the size..
djdragon
5:53 AM 11 February 2010
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Overall before you do the video demo.Yea or Ney on the X1?
Overall Yea, depends on what you want from it though. FX? Most definitely.
Perfect I'll get one from my shop in the morning LOL. thanks again.
Z0nkers
12:59 AM 12 February 2010
i got a problem mapping this. the left auto cue scroll works and when i press the knob it turns it off/on perfectly just as it should. the RIGHT knob though scrolls no problem, but doesnt always turn it off/on when it should. sometimes it does and most of the time it doesnt
Z0nkers
1:00 AM 12 February 2010
actually to clarify, the right knob always turns auto cue on when pressed, but does not always turn it off.
Z0nkers
1:01 AM 12 February 2010
another question while im at it...how do you make the buttons glow at 1/2 the brightness when in the off position?
bgardali
1:04 AM 12 February 2010
Go to the controller editor preferences, then under the controller tab you can adjust the off and on brightnesses.
Z0nkers
1:09 AM 12 February 2010
hmm thats what i was hoping for, but when i set the off to 50, still no lights
Z0nkers
1:09 AM 12 February 2010
any thoughts on the right auto cue knob only turning it on and not off?
VJ Justin Allen
1:20 AM 12 February 2010
Z0nkers,
I just wrote a quick programming guide for the X1. See if any of this solves your issues
www.scratchlive.net
I just wrote a quick programming guide for the X1. See if any of this solves your issues
www.scratchlive.net
bgardali
1:20 AM 12 February 2010
Have you checked your midi note settings for the knob button in the control editor? It may have accidentally been changed.
Z0nkers
1:42 AM 12 February 2010
checked midi note settings & are the same left/right. will check the guide, thanks everyone 4 the help...im sure others who pick up the x1 will be reading this thread :)
Z0nkers
5:10 AM 12 February 2010
hmm well so far so good. it can be a lil tempermental it seems at times. still had the same prob with deselecting the auto loop on the right side, even though i mapped it to a button. but then all of a sudden it started to work fine.
sim im a lil nervous to try it live and have this autoloop get stuck, lol
other than that though, with some tweaking here and there within ssl midi setting and also the x1 editor, i found the right combination of ish to get it all working just spiffy. still not done, need to takle the effects section next, but got all the standard stuff i use mapped nicely. havent been able to get the lights to light up when in trigger mode though, would be kinda nice just as a visual confirmation when im slapping around the cue points quickly.
one day if i find the energy ill post my mapping here.
anyone know what to do with the green hotcue button?
ps/ the shift key is soooooo nice! althogh i havent tried yet, i can see how its gonna make the efx section swunderful
sim im a lil nervous to try it live and have this autoloop get stuck, lol
other than that though, with some tweaking here and there within ssl midi setting and also the x1 editor, i found the right combination of ish to get it all working just spiffy. still not done, need to takle the effects section next, but got all the standard stuff i use mapped nicely. havent been able to get the lights to light up when in trigger mode though, would be kinda nice just as a visual confirmation when im slapping around the cue points quickly.
one day if i find the energy ill post my mapping here.
anyone know what to do with the green hotcue button?
ps/ the shift key is soooooo nice! althogh i havent tried yet, i can see how its gonna make the efx section swunderful
n:deuce
3:29 AM 15 February 2010
dj-freestyle...
care to share how you mapped the denon to work with the effects. i know how to assign, i am asking what feature you assigned to what button/knob. thanks for the insight.
care to share how you mapped the denon to work with the effects. i know how to assign, i am asking what feature you assigned to what button/knob. thanks for the insight.
spirez
3:09 PM 15 February 2010
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whats the dubstep track in the video mate? very nice
Sub Scape - Nothing's Wrong
spirez
3:10 PM 15 February 2010
Can someone hurry up and make a vid of the X1 with serato 2.0 please!
VJ Justin Allen
3:24 PM 15 February 2010
Trying to solve a few problems with it, the lights, and some feedback. Konix should have one out soon :)
dj-freestyle
4:01 PM 15 February 2010
i used scene two and i used the pads for on and off and the knobs for scrolling throught the different effects. it works really nice.
n:deuce
4:22 PM 15 February 2010
ok. i have the pads set up for on and off. i tried to set the knobs up to control the amount of effect on the superknob but it seems i can only map that to one effect. i wonder if i can control the amount with one of the buttons instead. trying to understand the whole midi mapping things...thanks!
dj-freestyle
4:26 PM 15 February 2010
When you assign the knob to the effects you have to change the setting so you can scroll through them, when you set it and the box turns green change the setting and one of them lets you scroll through effects then, i forget with one i dont have it in front of me.
VJ Justin Allen
5:05 PM 15 February 2010
Guys make sure you read my thread on programming the X1...it will give you some valuable hints, especially how ScratchLive AND the X1 Controller program work together. And review Konix's video on changing the midi programming in ScratchLive once you select it.
nik39
9:25 PM 15 February 2010
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To get the LEDs to work u have to install traktor le which comes on the kontol x1 disc... go into the preferences and turn the LEDs up then closte traktor the LEDs will be on then switch back to serato and they remain on... this is for mac i can't resond to pc setup.Hahaha :) Awesome response :)
djdragon
11:46 PM 15 February 2010
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If only it the LEDs light up, it would be perfect as it looks very nice when lit-up. But alas, the LEDs only work if you use Traktor.Still no fix for this? I bought the X1 and Midi mapped it, all I can say is that it's effin' awesome for the new SSL2.0 effects and SP6 sampler.
Can team Serato please add the fix for the X1 led's to light up?
Z0nkers
12:13 AM 16 February 2010
the lights work for me. you gotta go into the controller editor and then file > preferences > controller then adjust the light brightness there. also it depends on how you set it up within the editor map to toggle etc...and again it depends on your config within ssl itself
its def not easy to get going, but once you get it, it will be easy. the only thing i cant get it to do it light up when i press a button that isnt a toggle. like its not ON in the down mode then OFF in the up mode if acting as a trigger
its def not easy to get going, but once you get it, it will be easy. the only thing i cant get it to do it light up when i press a button that isnt a toggle. like its not ON in the down mode then OFF in the up mode if acting as a trigger
Konix
12:23 AM 16 February 2010
You can get the LEDs to light when assigned as gate or trigger, but since SSL doesn't have MIDI output in order to light the LEDs, you'll need to use a third party MIDI translating program like Bome's MIDI translator, Pure Data, or MIDIpipe (which is what I'm using, Mac only). This will output MIDI back to the X1 and hence light the LEDs in all modes (toggle/trigger/gate). That's what I'm working on right now before I get my videos up.
VJ Justin Allen
12:24 AM 16 February 2010
Yea, and I keep hoping that Traktor will just change their controller software :)
the_black_one
12:32 AM 16 February 2010
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You can get the LEDs to light when assigned as gate or trigger, but since SSL doesn't have MIDI output in order to light the LEDs, you'll need to use a third party MIDI translating program like Bome's MIDI translator, Pure Data, or MIDIpipe (which is what I'm using, Mac only). This will output MIDI back to the X1 and hence light the LEDs in all modes (toggle/trigger/gate). That's what I'm working on right now before I get my videos up.can't wait. after i see this vid i will make me decision on what midi controller im going to use
djdragon
12:50 AM 16 February 2010
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You can get the LEDs to light when assigned as gate or trigger, but since SSL doesn't have MIDI output in order to light the LEDs, you'll need to use a third party MIDI translating program like Bome's MIDI translator, Pure Data, or MIDIpipe (which is what I'm using, Mac only). This will output MIDI back to the X1 and hence light the LEDs in all modes (toggle/trigger/gate). That's what I'm working on right now before I get my videos up.We shouldn't HAVE to use 3 party apps for it to work. SSL should have a decent LPSI factor.
www.scratchlive.net
We will see, if enough of us bitch about it it could be a quick resolve. Since Abelton integration is soon, we need lights for our pretty controllers LOL
Z0nkers
1:07 AM 16 February 2010
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You can get the LEDs to light when assigned as gate or trigger, but since SSL doesn't have MIDI output in order to light the LEDs, you'll need to use a third party MIDI translating program like Bome's MIDI translator, Pure Data, or MIDIpipe (which is what I'm using, Mac only). This will output MIDI back to the X1 and hence light the LEDs in all modes (toggle/trigger/gate). That's what I'm working on right now before I get my videos up.i have the effects switch assigned to buttons and lit up with toggle / binary offset
i have cue points assigned to button that won't light up with gate / absolute
all of the buttons are lit at about 25% so i can see them through the editors control preferences.
dunno how you are doing it, but i seem to be having the opposite problem you are, lol
VJ Justin Allen
1:09 AM 16 February 2010
The problem isn't really Serato's issue this time...yes it would be nice if Serato would do some more work on some midi feedback but with the X1 there are at least 4 different mode options (Toggle, Trigger, Gate, and Inc) AND there are 12 different type options...all of which add up to lots and lots of selection options.
In the case of the X1, it really is Traktor's to change. Let's hope they do make some changes in the near future.
In the case of the X1, it really is Traktor's to change. Let's hope they do make some changes in the near future.
djdragon
1:23 AM 16 February 2010
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i have the effects switch assigned to buttons and lit up with toggle / binary offset
i have cue points assigned to button that won't light up with gate / absolute
all of the buttons are lit at about 25% so i can see them through the editors control preferences.
dunno how you are doing it, but i seem to be having the opposite problem you are, lol
MOFO! I changed the control change in the NI editor software to 'toggle' for the buttons and now it works. FML!
Thanks for the tip.
djdragon
1:43 AM 16 February 2010
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MOFO! I changed the control change in the NI editor software to 'toggle' for the buttons and now it works. FML!
Thanks for the tip.
Spoke too soon. It sorta works. Yes it lights up but it takes too many clicks to engage and disengage the 'light' from the function.
Konix
1:45 AM 16 February 2010
In the Editor, change the "on" value to 64 and "off" value to 66 (default is 0 on 127 off), then it will work right and won't have to push the button 4 times.
VJ Justin Allen
2:14 AM 16 February 2010
I was trying all sorts of numbers but never came up with that combination. Excellent job!
Z0nkers
2:28 AM 16 February 2010
i havent changed those numbers for anythign yet, but i know what yu are talking about. thats why ive been changing the setting within ssl. i just played with those until it worked like i needed. it depends on what you are using the buttons for. it you want it lit as ON and unlit when OFF, then i found toggle/ binary offset worked for me. if you use toggle / other combination, then it can make you double click.
what i havent been able to do yet, is make a trigger button light up for the instant and only when its pressed down...then back to normal what you take your finger off and it comes back to the up position. for cue points....
what i havent been able to do yet, is make a trigger button light up for the instant and only when its pressed down...then back to normal what you take your finger off and it comes back to the up position. for cue points....
VJ Justin Allen
2:38 AM 16 February 2010
Try using Gate instead of Trigger....and Konix's numbers as well. Mine's not in front of me right now or I would test that.
DJ Jonasty
2:44 AM 16 February 2010
Just got one of these bad boys today, what a sweet controller. Haven't used it with SSL yet but it did come with an overlay. It works great with * Ummm, Traktor * Best purchase of the year. I'll fire it up with 2.0 in a bit. I am just not in the mood to do any mapping, I just like the things to work when I plug em in.
VJ Justin Allen
2:45 AM 16 February 2010
2.0 is not saving midi mappings at this time with any reliability. Just an FYI
the_black_one
3:42 AM 16 February 2010
the pioneers of the midi controllers!!! thanx allen and konix and the others for doing this work first before anyone
djdragon
4:57 AM 16 February 2010
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In the Editor, change the "on" value to 64 and "off" value to 66 (default is 0 on 127 off), then it will work right and won't have to push the button 4 times.Actually it works set up like this better.
NI Editor Software: TOGGLE Value OFF: 0 ON: 127
Serato SSL2.0 Midi: Relative - Binary
The only glitch is (either Konix or the above way) is for example when you assign the DJ FX (button FX1 on X1) to expand the DJ FX and the SP6 (button FX2 on X1) to expand the sampler and your select either button first, then select the second they both stay lit. Although one collapses and the other opens. The only work around is to press the button to collapse that function before opening the next. Kinda lame.
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2.0 is not saving midi mappings at this time with any reliability. Just an FYII've noticed that too.
the_black_one
5:32 AM 16 February 2010
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2.0 is not saving midi mappings at this time with any reliability. Just an FYIthat sux!
djdragon
5:41 AM 16 February 2010
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2.0 is not saving midi mappings at this time with any reliability. Just an FYIthat sux!
Yeah, I'm checking in XLM and it seems that the midi is saving but when loading the midi preset back into SSL2.0 it doesn't take.
Konix
6:52 PM 19 February 2010
Alright kiddies, here you go
Traktor Kontrol X1 with Scratch Live 2.0
part 1 - www.youtube.com view
part 2 - www.youtube.com view
For best results, watch on Youtube and not embedded here, in HD (720p) and full screened.
Traktor Kontrol X1 with Scratch Live 2.0
part 1 - www.youtube.com view
part 2 - www.youtube.com view
For best results, watch on Youtube and not embedded here, in HD (720p) and full screened.
Dj-M.Bezzle
6:55 PM 19 February 2010
damn Konix uppin the anty on the vids, how much longer before we have a CGI konix doin demos
The Version Suicides
11:07 PM 20 February 2010
I borrowed my friends X1 for a gig. Now I have one coming in on Monday.
@Konix.
Thanx for the tutorials, man.
Much gratitude.
@Konix.
Thanx for the tutorials, man.
Much gratitude.
The Version Suicides
1:01 AM 21 February 2010
I believe we'll definitely see at least an X2, if not an X4.
What i'd really like to know is will one of them be a soundcard as well?
Irrelevant of course, since it won't work with Serato, but the addition of audio would effect the price point.
Dj BuddyLove
1:19 AM 21 February 2010
has anyone checked out the Vestax VCM 600..
looks rad!!
www.youtube.com view
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looks rad!!
www.youtube.com view
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www.youtube.com view
valdini
7:14 AM 21 February 2010
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Looks like Dubfire from Deep Dish completely ditched the CDJ's & Vinyl for two X1's.nightmoves.me
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Lots of EDM DJ's work Traktor with AutoSync on and have started switching to midi only options!
Not a great look in my opinion but is certainly catching on within the scene by some big players.
K
VJ Justin Allen
11:42 PM 21 February 2010
So last night was my first night using the X1 in a club setting and not using my Trigger Finger.
Wow. What a great piece of equipment this X1 is. I used it all night long and had zero issues with it, everything worked great and I found myself using video effects much more since they were easier to get to. (I re-programmed the X1).
I 100% recommend this piece of equipment as a must have.
Now they need to come out with one that has sliders...and fix the multiple controllers on the same system issue.
Wow. What a great piece of equipment this X1 is. I used it all night long and had zero issues with it, everything worked great and I found myself using video effects much more since they were easier to get to. (I re-programmed the X1).
I 100% recommend this piece of equipment as a must have.
Now they need to come out with one that has sliders...and fix the multiple controllers on the same system issue.
fl0w
8:14 AM 22 February 2010
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since SSL doesn't have MIDI outputI tend to believe Serato DOES have MIDI output, because (AFAIK, I don't own one) the lights of the Denon DN-HC1000S ARE controlled by Serato. The Denon's LEDs are controlled by MIDI messages:
www.denondj.com
So I highly suspect the MIDI out feature is locked, but does exist!
Dj-M.Bezzle
3:27 PM 22 February 2010
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since SSL doesn't have MIDI outputI tend to believe Serato DOES have MIDI output, because (AFAIK, I don't own one) the lights of the Denon DN-HC1000S ARE controlled by Serato. The Denon's LEDs are controlled by MIDI messages:
www.denondj.com
So I highly suspect the MIDI out feature is locked, but does exist!
not on the scenes you map, the only time the feedback lights work is on the preprogrammed scene 1 so it sounds like a workaround for me
marcuslastname
4:33 AM 24 February 2010
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Alright kiddies, here you goTraktor Kontrol X1 with Scratch Live 2.0
part 1 - www.youtube.com view
part 2 - www.youtube.com view
For best results, watch on Youtube and not embedded here, in HD (720p) and full screened.
Nice video! Has anyone tried it with Internal mode?
jepe
6:53 PM 1 March 2010
how can i assign 2 buttons for the same thing? like the browse /scrooling assign on this video ? both buttons scroll the library.
thanks in advance
jepe
thanks in advance
jepe
VJ Justin Allen
7:51 PM 1 March 2010
And the answer to that is in the Controller Editor software set the Number field to the same number for both (or multiple) controls.
VJ Justin Allen
7:52 PM 1 March 2010
And the answer to that is in the Controller Editor software set the Number field to the same number for both (or multiple) controls.
OhCeeDee
8:20 AM 2 March 2010
man these things must be going like hot cakes. lots of places sold out. i already bought the hard case/stand in anticipation!
OhCeeDee
8:05 AM 4 March 2010
a local shop but most places have them. bhphotovideo.com or turntablelab.com both have them i believe
jroc453
2:33 PM 4 March 2010
I just ordered mine the other day. Samash is the only local store in South florida that sells them and they have zero within the company right now. So I just have to wait till they get them. They said N.I. is shipping most out mid March... :-( . This is replacing my LPD8 and I can't wait to get this....
jroc453
2:49 PM 4 March 2010
Ya... I really want to try this thing out.
Konix, First I want to say "thanks for all your videos!!!!" It's always been a big help. I saw how you have your X1 set up. Is their a way to put your midi info into a file that I can install and get mine up and running just like yours with out me having to map it out?
Konix, First I want to say "thanks for all your videos!!!!" It's always been a big help. I saw how you have your X1 set up. Is their a way to put your midi info into a file that I can install and get mine up and running just like yours with out me having to map it out?
jroc453
3:13 PM 4 March 2010
You should... I'm sure alot of people would use it. will it work for a windows pc? Would I still need to get that midi program to configure the leds to light up?
jroc453
4:46 PM 4 March 2010
I know this comes with a template that goes over the controler for Serato. I saw the button configuration for it. It looks pretty god for 1.9.2. And I know this has a second page that can be mapped to whatever you want. I was wondering if their is a way to leave pg (1) as the way they configued it to work with their template for 1.9.2 and use pg (2) to work the fx's for 2.0 and other things someone would want to map/add to pg (2) with all the led's to light up?
howcome
6:25 PM 4 March 2010
I have a 57 which I mount on the turntable cases using its ears. A lot of the videos seem to have this placed between the mixer and the turntable. Is there a stand or something else to mount this on so it is easily accessible? I don't want to have to move to the end of the table to mess with it, I like everything right in front of me.
jroc453
7:19 PM 4 March 2010
So I just got off the phone with Native Instruments. They said they won't receive their shipment of the Kontrol X1 till March 18th. Then they shill have to ship them out to all their vendors after that. So I'm sure it won't be on any shelves till at least the end of the month... that really sucks!!! :-(
VJ Justin Allen
10:17 PM 4 March 2010
I just had a vendor sell part of my order that he had in stock to another buyer. Needless to say I will not be buying from that vendor again.
dj-freestyle
2:55 PM 7 March 2010
Thats why i love my denon midi, it sits right in front of my mixer and does exactly what i need , effects and all.
Dj-M.Bezzle
4:49 PM 8 March 2010
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Thats why i love my denon midi, it sits right in front of my mixer and does exactly what i need , effects and all.my mixer has the damn headphone jack in the front blocking me from a perfect place to put it..DOHH
OhCeeDee
9:09 PM 8 March 2010
get an L-shape 1/4" adapter.
probably wont completely solve the problem but might help!
probably wont completely solve the problem but might help!
dj-freestyle
12:49 AM 9 March 2010
i have the denon mixer so it sits in front nicely but if you go onto the denon forum website some dude has built some really nice legs for it, i think his name is dboy, there pretty dope.
jroc453
4:05 PM 9 March 2010
Does anyone know who has the Kontrol X1 in stock??? I pre ordered mine with Samash but I wont get it for another month and don't feel like waiting that long... it's B/S... I can just get my money back and order it online. Can someone let me know who has them please???
Thanks,
Jason
Thanks,
Jason
jroc453
4:25 PM 9 March 2010
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Try DJsupply.com, they may still have some.No luck there... :-(
jroc453
4:39 PM 9 March 2010
Ya... he said Bad Boy Bill came in and other big DJ's bought the rest. I can't find it anywhere... I want this soooo bad!!! I hate waiting a few days foe things but this is a few weeks. lol...
jroc453
4:47 PM 9 March 2010
No kidding.... Everyone is looking for them. They must be loving it... I'm shocked Rane doesn't have a Sratchlive version to this. If it was at the same price point it would do really well.
C. William
9:08 PM 9 March 2010
yea i bet rane is like "fuuuucccckkk why didn't we do something like this"
djdragon
9:13 PM 9 March 2010
www.axemusic.com we always have 4 instock in our store and online warehouse.
FYI Rane Sixty-Eight will be available end of April for around $2976.00 + GST CDN, I just confirmation today.
FYI Rane Sixty-Eight will be available end of April for around $2976.00 + GST CDN, I just confirmation today.
jroc453
9:39 PM 9 March 2010
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www.axemusic.com we always have 4 instock in our store and online warehouse.FYI Rane Sixty-Eight will be available end of April for around $2976.00 + GST CDN, I just confirmation today.
Damn it... they have them but can't ship the United States.
djdragon
9:39 PM 9 March 2010
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www.axemusic.com we always have 4 instock in our store and online warehouse.FYI Rane Sixty-Eight will be available end of April for around $2976.00 + GST CDN, I just confirmation today.
Sorry guys, Canadian orders only LOL. To whom ever called from SFLA. I'm sorry I didnt mean to get you all hyped.
dj-freestyle
10:44 PM 9 March 2010
try midwest stereo on chicago, its www.midweststereo.com, when everybody was out of the denon midi they had iot
jroc453
10:54 PM 9 March 2010
What... they want $250 for it when everyone selles them for $200. But I did call Hollywooddj.com today and the guy said that N.I. was gonna raise the price to $250 and I thought he was full of sh**. Maybe he was right??? It's just what he said... I have no idea...
dj-freestyle
10:58 PM 9 March 2010
They r usally a little more exspensive but they always have what i need when everybody else doesnt.
jroc453
11:06 PM 9 March 2010
Nope.... nothing.... They are out too. I guess I have to wail like everyone else... Thanks guys for trying though... :-)
dj-freestyle
11:06 PM 9 March 2010
cool, hope it helps. i am there all the time and i saw one in the case last week so i bet they have them
jroc453
11:15 PM 9 March 2010
I think I tryed Audiolines this morning and they were out. I never seen nlfxpro.com but i will give them a shoot.
jroc453
11:19 PM 9 March 2010
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Try Bernie at Audiolines.com or Ben at NLFXpro.comlmao... no & no...
RogerRabbit
11:40 PM 9 March 2010
^^^ post fail lol...
I was going to say : because both ssl and tracktor guys use it.
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wow, im shocked, hot item. crazy.I was going to say : because both ssl and tracktor guys use it.
DJ Jonasty
11:55 PM 9 March 2010
Guitar center has one in "mint condition" online in stock now. $175 -sweet. Oh btw, I love this thing. It's one of the best purchases I've made all year. Instead of packing a coffin with cdj's into a small booth at the club I just bring the mixer and this controller and go for it. Last Friday night was a blast with this controller. Yeah, I'm occassionally leaving the CDJ 2k's at home for my lil $200 controller, amazing. Get em while they're hot!
www.guitarcenter.com
www.guitarcenter.com
VJ Justin Allen
11:59 PM 9 March 2010
I thought about a used one but figured it was way too soon for any to be returned.
jroc453
12:26 AM 10 March 2010
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I thought about a used one but figured it was way too soon for any to be returned.Ya... me too... I would rather wait for a new one....
jroc453
4:40 PM 10 March 2010
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Guitar center has one in "mint condition" online in stock now. $175 -sweet. Oh btw, I love this thing. It's one of the best purchases I've made all year. Instead of packing a coffin with cdj's into a small booth at the club I just bring the mixer and this controller and go for it. Last Friday night was a blast with this controller. Yeah, I'm occassionally leaving the CDJ 2k's at home for my lil $200 controller, amazing. Get em while they're hot!www.guitarcenter.com
Are you guys remapping it to work without your cd/turntables? I use CDJ1000MK3's and I'm trying to not have to take them out of my house. I don't see how to control the songs with just using the Kontrol X!. Are you using two of them?
jroc453
4:41 PM 10 March 2010
When I say controling the song I mean fast forward & rewind. And bend the tracks.
dj-freestyle
4:44 PM 10 March 2010
ya im really lost, i need to feel the record or platter to spin. period
jroc453
4:49 PM 10 March 2010
I have been reading that people have been just using the Kontrol X1 withot cdj/turntables. But I'm sure thats fine when Traktor has the sync fet. Then dj's can just cheat all day long I guess.
VJ Justin Allen
5:26 PM 10 March 2010
You cannot use 2 of the X1's at the same time yet. They have said they will fix that with future releases.
C. William
5:56 PM 10 March 2010
most macs only have two usb ports anyway
after an sl1/sl3 is plugged you're only gonna be able to use one
after an sl1/sl3 is plugged you're only gonna be able to use one
VJ Justin Allen
6:08 PM 10 March 2010
Use a 2.0 USB Hub. That's what I do with my 2 midi devices I currently use.
jroc453
6:21 PM 10 March 2010
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Use a 2.0 USB Hub. That's what I do with my 2 midi devices I currently use.Are you using a powered USB hub? I use a PC and I'm kinda worried about getting USB dropouts if I plug in a hub or getting them using the Kontrol X1. I never got them when I added the LPD8 from AKAI so I hope I will be fine...
VJ Justin Allen
6:27 PM 10 March 2010
I do use a powered hub. It's this one:
www.amazon.com
and I use a usb extension cable to keep it off to the side.
www.amazon.com
and I use a usb extension cable to keep it off to the side.
Dj-M.Bezzle
6:37 PM 10 March 2010
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Use a 2.0 USB Hub. That's what I do with my 2 midi devices I currently use.Are you using a powered USB hub? I use a PC and I'm kinda worried about getting USB dropouts if I plug in a hub or getting them using the Kontrol X1. I never got them when I added the LPD8 from AKAI so I hope I will be fine...
i dont use a powered hub, i bought a $5 usb 2.0 hub from office max and have the dennon hc1000 and korg kontrol pad hooked up to is, SL1 on the other USB port...0 issues
jroc453
6:50 PM 10 March 2010
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Use a 2.0 USB Hub. That's what I do with my 2 midi devices I currently use.Are you using a powered USB hub? I use a PC and I'm kinda worried about getting USB dropouts if I plug in a hub or getting them using the Kontrol X1. I never got them when I added the LPD8 from AKAI so I hope I will be fine...
i dont use a powered hub, i bought a $5 usb 2.0 hub from office max and have the dennon hc1000 and korg kontrol pad hooked up to is, SL1 on the other USB port...0 issues
Let me guess... you got a Mac?? :-)
VJ Justin Allen
6:57 PM 10 March 2010
You can. The X1 allows you to change the midi channel so they do not conflict.
Dj-M.Bezzle
7:20 PM 10 March 2010
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Use a 2.0 USB Hub. That's what I do with my 2 midi devices I currently use.Are you using a powered USB hub? I use a PC and I'm kinda worried about getting USB dropouts if I plug in a hub or getting them using the Kontrol X1. I never got them when I added the LPD8 from AKAI so I hope I will be fine...
i dont use a powered hub, i bought a $5 usb 2.0 hub from office max and have the dennon hc1000 and korg kontrol pad hooked up to is, SL1 on the other USB port...0 issues
Let me guess... you got a Mac?? :-)
yup.... :)
Dj-M.Bezzle
7:21 PM 10 March 2010
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bezzle can u use the x1 and denon together with serato?when i finally find a spot to buy one thats not outta stock ill let ya know lol
jroc453
8:04 PM 10 March 2010
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bezzle can u use the x1 and denon together with serato?when i finally find a spot to buy one thats not outta stock ill let ya know lol
Good luck with that...lol.
dj-freestyle
9:40 PM 10 March 2010
cool, we one have at the club but i have my denon at home, ill grab a x1 when they r back. i love my denon but haveing both would really put it on lock. They r haveing a workshop at the club in the city friday with the x1 and traxtor, no serato love but its all good.
dj-freestyle
4:42 PM 11 March 2010
Found an x1 last night, very nice. just broke it out of the box. :)
jroc453
8:43 PM 11 March 2010
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Found an x1 last night, very nice. just broke it out of the box. :)Who has them?
DJ Jonasty
8:43 PM 11 March 2010
Yeah, I guess I was cheating when just using the controller with a mixer. I was using the Traktor Kontrol X1 with Traktor. Please forgive. I understand where you are coming from though, I prefer using CDJ's but in a pinch it's a nice setup. I'm still not sure 100% if utilizing the SYNC is cheating as compared to lining up the red and white sticks in Serato. I won't get into that here though. I would love to use SSL in a lighter setup if it allowed me to just use a controller. Not all my gigs allow space for my full coffin.
jroc453
8:49 PM 11 March 2010
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Yeah, I guess I was cheating when just using the controller with a mixer. I was using the Traktor Kontrol X1 with Traktor. Please forgive. I understand where you are coming from though, I prefer using CDJ's but in a pinch it's a nice setup. I'm still not sure 100% if utilizing the SYNC is cheating as compared to lining up the red and white sticks in Serato. I won't get into that here though. I would love to use SSL in a lighter setup if it allowed me to just use a controller. Not all my gigs allow space for my full coffin.I'm in the same boat as you. I would like to stop bringing my cdj's to some events.
DjWoody
9:03 PM 11 March 2010
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Found an x1 last night, very nice. just broke it out of the box. :)Where? I found a website last night that said they had them in stock. It's a small store in the midwest somewhere. I emailed them and they replied back saying they did have it. I called right now to verify and the lady said she had just sent me an email saying it's she's sold out. :( Sure enough, I did get the email. :(
VJ Justin Allen
9:05 PM 11 March 2010
I was just screwing around the other day and using my DJM-800 and my X1 and that was it. I mapped channel 3 & 4 volume sliders to left and right pitch control.
It was pretty wild but I am not sure I have the cojones to just bring those two items only to a gig.
It was pretty wild but I am not sure I have the cojones to just bring those two items only to a gig.
dj-freestyle
10:02 PM 11 March 2010
i have a friend at gc who was out of town and came back yesterday and his ni rep had one for me. i got lucky. good timeing, i like it, still way more comfortable on denon midi but im getting used to it today. love them both for sure.
dj-freestyle
10:02 PM 11 March 2010
i tried usieng no cdjs or tables and boy that blows. how boring, takes all the fun out of it for sure. even after 20 years i still love it.
DjWoody
4:33 AM 13 March 2010
HURRY OUT to Guitar Center. They just got them today. I just got mine and it did come with a physical Serato overlay.
MikeNicco
1:02 PM 14 March 2010
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HURRY OUT to Guitar Center. They just got them today. I just got mine and it did come with a physical Serato overlay.+1
I got mine yesterday. Last one GC had left.
valdini
2:15 PM 14 March 2010
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Can someone whack up a clear shot of the SSL overlay on the X1... Woody?
Be nice to see the options on the first scene.
K
Can someone whack up a clear shot of the SSL overlay on the X1... Woody?
Be nice to see the options on the first scene.
K
MikeNicco
3:03 PM 14 March 2010
Some picture of the overlay that I took with my phone.
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i327.photobucket.com
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VJ Justin Allen
4:04 PM 14 March 2010
When you turn it over it blank which is nice because it hides the words written on the unit.
jroc453
6:24 PM 14 March 2010
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HURRY OUT to Guitar Center. They just got them today. I just got mine and it did come with a physical Serato overlay.yaaaaaa!!!! I got the last one today... Thanks Djwoody!!!! I don't know how G.C. got some??
jroc453
7:44 PM 14 March 2010
I guess i'm an idiot... I can't get serato to recognize the x1? hotcue is lit up...thats it. I was just gonna start using it with the version it has just for now. Is their something I need to put into seratos midi file?
jroc453
8:16 PM 14 March 2010
oh I did... I was just gonna use the default one. I read somewhere that I had to copy a file and make a midi file in the scratchlive folder. I did that and I get nothing.
jepe
9:15 PM 14 March 2010
did you did the install? from the cd? intall the drivers/controller editor?
jroc453
9:51 PM 14 March 2010
yup... Should Serato recognize the x1 from just installing the drivers/controller editor? I am able to make my template work if i start from scratch and map it myself. It works that way buy I ran into a problem when trying to assign the browse knobs, cuz you can't assign two. Do you think I messed up the install some how?
Konix
10:27 PM 14 March 2010
First you have to select the Serato Scratch Live template in the X1's Controller Editor software. Then included on the install CD is the xml file for Scratch Live for the X1, you need to copy this file into your ~/Music/ScratchLIVE/MIDI folder. Then you have to load it in Scratch Live's setup menu on the MIDI tab page.
Also in order to get both knobs to scroll through crates/tracks, you have to assign them the same CC# in the Control Editor.
Also in order to get both knobs to scroll through crates/tracks, you have to assign them the same CC# in the Control Editor.
dj-freestyle
10:30 PM 14 March 2010
Now that ive used both for awhile, i really like the denon better. go figure.
jroc453
10:47 PM 14 March 2010
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First you have to select the Serato Scratch Live template in the X1's Controller Editor software. Then included on the install CD is the xml file for Scratch Live for the X1, you need to copy this file into your ~/Music/ScratchLIVE/MIDI folder. Then you have to load it in Scratch Live's setup menu on the MIDI tab page.Also in order to get both knobs to scroll through crates/tracks, you have to assign them the same CC# in the Control Editor.
Thanks Bro.. I'm watching your vids right now. I think I'm just gonna map my own. seems to be working well that way. I did assign them the same number cc16 or cc17 but I can only use one knob at a time. Konix... I wish you were right around the corner...lol
jroc453
12:28 PM 15 March 2010
This thing rocks. I did have a question on the midi mapping software though. Is their any software that DOES NOT have to run in the background when using the controller? Like something I can just set up one time. I'm sorry for asking all these questions about this. It's just MIDI stuff is new to me and I'm just learning all of this for the first time. I tried to find Bomes light but all I could find was the demo Bomes. Also... I have no idea what to do once I open that software. I did do the same thing that Konix did (Midi in / Midi out) and was able to see the Tractor controller but I couldn't do anything with it. I'm using a PC. Is their a better program to use?
Also... When using page (2) on the controller, I saw Konix just press the shift button down without holding it and it stays on page (2). When I press it I have to hold it down to stay on page (2). Do I have to set that button in the controller editor as a toggle or something for it to work that way. And what does HOTCUE do? It just stays lit green on my x1. Thanks guys for your help!!!
Also... When using page (2) on the controller, I saw Konix just press the shift button down without holding it and it stays on page (2). When I press it I have to hold it down to stay on page (2). Do I have to set that button in the controller editor as a toggle or something for it to work that way. And what does HOTCUE do? It just stays lit green on my x1. Thanks guys for your help!!!
Konix
1:51 PM 15 March 2010
You have to assign the shift button as a toggle instead of hold in the Controller Editor.
If you want the LEDs to light, yes you have to use an external MIDI program, until Serato implements MIDI output in Scratch Live. With Bome's I think you have to map each button individually to light up, which is a pain.
If you want the LEDs to light, yes you have to use an external MIDI program, until Serato implements MIDI output in Scratch Live. With Bome's I think you have to map each button individually to light up, which is a pain.
jroc453
1:59 PM 15 March 2010
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You have to assign the shift button as a toggle instead of hold in the Controller Editor.That's what I thought. That's how you have yours right?
As far as the Bomes program... It always needs to be running in the background? What did you do with the HOTCUE button? Are you sure Bomes has a free light version to their software?
Konix
2:08 PM 15 March 2010
Yes Bome's has to stay open in the background. On PCs, there are two versions of Bome's, the Pro version, and the Classic version. The Classic version (www.bome.com) is free, and has limited functionality compared to Pro. The Pro version costs money and does more stuff.
Hotcue button does nothing in normal MIDI mode, it's only for when using Traktor Pro in native mode, it switches to the cue point setting/triggering page.
Hotcue button does nothing in normal MIDI mode, it's only for when using Traktor Pro in native mode, it switches to the cue point setting/triggering page.
jroc453
2:15 PM 15 March 2010
Thank's Konix... I really love this controller bro... Thanks for all your videos and support. When I get home from work I am gonna download The classic Bomes software and work on that tonight. Now I just need to design a bracket to mount it to the side of my coffin out of some kind of thin metal that I bent into the right shape so I can slide it down the side of the coffin and it will support the x1 right on the side.
jroc453
2:39 PM 15 March 2010
Some thing like this...
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The metal will rap around the side of the coffin and tuck down the side of the foam and run up the top the back down at the right height so that the X1 is flush with the top of my coffin.
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The metal will rap around the side of the coffin and tuck down the side of the foam and run up the top the back down at the right height so that the X1 is flush with the top of my coffin.
jroc453
12:30 PM 16 March 2010
Well I think I found a good stand for the X1. I was gonna try to design a bracket to mount on the side of my coffin. But I found this:
www.samash.com
All I need to do is trim the sides a little bit with a jig saw then file down the edges. I can then place it right behind my coffin so that it's right next to my laptop and it will be at the perfect angle. I'm gonna pick it up today.
www.samash.com
All I need to do is trim the sides a little bit with a jig saw then file down the edges. I can then place it right behind my coffin so that it's right next to my laptop and it will be at the perfect angle. I'm gonna pick it up today.
valdini
12:37 PM 16 March 2010
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Good looking out on the photo's, I'll go ahead an pick one up now!
... then we just need some nice Midi Maps to be stickied for us :)
K
Good looking out on the photo's, I'll go ahead an pick one up now!
... then we just need some nice Midi Maps to be stickied for us :)
K
jroc453
12:41 PM 16 March 2010
This one will work better because the top plate mounting bracket is not as wide so it can be cut down some more.
www.samash.com
www.samash.com
jroc453
12:43 PM 16 March 2010
The top can be at any angle you want too... its fully adjustable to any height/angle.
jroc453
1:08 PM 16 March 2010
My bag / stand comes in today. I'm only using it as the bag though. I can only use it as a stand when I'm at the club. I also do alot of mobile stuff and have a coffin so I need something to support it.
MikeNicco
1:35 PM 16 March 2010
How is the quality of the bag. Does it brings the controller to an even level with the mixer and TTs?
jroc453
1:57 PM 16 March 2010
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How is the quality of the bag. Does it brings the controller to an even level with the mixer and TTs?From what I have seen... yes . I will know for sure today though.
monkeybiz
4:08 PM 16 March 2010
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How is the quality of the bag. Does it brings the controller to an even level with the mixer and TTs?Yes, it's designed to. The quality's fine. Nothing really amazing, but it's well designed. The velcro tabs that unfold to support the X1 are a bit fussy; they keep catching on the bottom and sides of the bag, so it usually takes me a few tries to position them.
jroc453
5:21 PM 16 March 2010
I just got mine... It really not worth $40 but what else can you use. I did need it so I would recommend it .
dj-freestyle
7:18 PM 16 March 2010
i got the rain stand for my denon and love it, right above my mixer. useing it and the x1 is really dope.
Black Science
3:03 AM 17 March 2010
XI looks nice, but so much of still looks/feels like a band-aid that only get's you about 75% where you need to be (like the DNHC1000S). Have said before (many times) and will say it again: RANE needs to be the one designing and manufacturing true, professional, industrial-grade, SL-native, SL born n' bred controllers for use with SL. No one knows the product better and how it's used in the field, and IMO, no one makes better hardware for this type of stuff than RANE.
C. William
5:06 AM 17 March 2010
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XI looks nice, but so much of still looks/feels like a band-aid that only get's you about 75% where you need to be (like the DNHC1000S). Have said before (many times) and will say it again: RANE needs to be the one designing and manufacturing true, professional, industrial-grade, SL-native, SL born n' bred controllers for use with SL. No one knows the product better and how it's used in the field, and IMO, no one makes better hardware for this type of stuff than RANE.yeah +1000
they also need to come out with a wicked digital-spinning platter-HID-controller for ssl. it's time.
jroc453
11:24 AM 17 March 2010
Can I just say "I HATE MIDI"............ So just when I think I have everything mapped out... I go to test it out and something is not assigned. The midi box in serato is gray not green. So I reassign it... that one works but now something else is not assigned. And the numbers on the controller editor keep changing on their own. I don't get it??? I save everything in serato and in the controller editor software. I got everything to work by the end of the night but I'm sure when I test it tonight things will be missing. :-(
Also, I have no clue how to use Bome's software to use the LED's. I click on Midi in or Midi out... I can see Trakto X1 but It can't do anything with it. I just says somthing about an error. Can someone chime in and give me a tip on how to use it. I would mess with it but I don't want to screw anything up.
I'm starting to lose my patience with this...
Thanks guys!!!!
Also, I have no clue how to use Bome's software to use the LED's. I click on Midi in or Midi out... I can see Trakto X1 but It can't do anything with it. I just says somthing about an error. Can someone chime in and give me a tip on how to use it. I would mess with it but I don't want to screw anything up.
I'm starting to lose my patience with this...
Thanks guys!!!!
VJ Justin Allen
2:44 PM 17 March 2010
lol The X1 also works like a charm. The biggest difference is that the X1 is 100% programmable, has more options to it, and fits the workspace (at least mine) better than the Denon.
dj-freestyle
2:48 PM 17 March 2010
I have 3 empty scenes in the denon that are fully programmable and the denon sits perfect at top of my mixer so its a perfect extension of my mixer, im useing both and love the denon much more by far.
jroc453
2:48 PM 17 March 2010
Thanks Justin... for both of my post's... I guess your search box works better then mine...lol ;-p
Dj-M.Bezzle
2:54 PM 17 March 2010
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The biggest difference is that the X1 is 100% programmable, has more options to it.for me personally thats its biggest drawback, i hate having to program things by myself i can never decide the optimal place to put things and i hate knowing that i have to leave some things out in exchange for others, i also end up changing what buttons back and forth so its hard for me to remmebr whats what, i like to buy a unit thats preprogrammed and labeled
jroc453
2:57 PM 17 March 2010
Justin, I see how you set yours up. I do have a question though... you wrote :
TYPE: Control Change
MODE: Toggle
ACTION ON: Down
That will make the the LED light up, but wont it stay lit cuz it's a toggle? Can you use that configuration for cues? I thought it needed to be set as a gate??
TYPE: Control Change
MODE: Toggle
ACTION ON: Down
That will make the the LED light up, but wont it stay lit cuz it's a toggle? Can you use that configuration for cues? I thought it needed to be set as a gate??
VJ Justin Allen
3:10 PM 17 March 2010
That's where the Brome software comes in. I choose (in the beginning) to not worry too much about the lights and concentrate on the functionally. Then Konix came along and solved the light issue.
I have all of my lights set-up at 50% dimming and just look at my screen mostly...it's getting so I really don't have to look too much at the controller.
So there is a difference between mine and Konix's set-up.
I am hoping that Serato will look into more midi functionally within the next several months so we do not need a program like brome's.
I have all of my lights set-up at 50% dimming and just look at my screen mostly...it's getting so I really don't have to look too much at the controller.
So there is a difference between mine and Konix's set-up.
I am hoping that Serato will look into more midi functionally within the next several months so we do not need a program like brome's.
jroc453
2:34 PM 23 March 2010
Even though I have received my Kontrol X1 I just wanted to post this email I just got for everyone who is waiting for them....
Hi
We would like to thank all of you who preordered this item for your patience in waiting.
Our Native Instruments Rep had a conference call with head office last night and was told they should at last arrive at Native on Wednesday of this week and will start shipping on Friday 26th to dealers. We have not yet had any confirmation on the number of units we will be receiving. If we receive all that we have ordered, we will have more than enough to cover all backorders.
We therefore should be shipping these units out towards the end of the week of 29th.
As soon as we get tracking information of the shipment coming to us, we will forward the ship date to all customers.
Again, thanks for your patience.
Best regards
Julie
Hi
We would like to thank all of you who preordered this item for your patience in waiting.
Our Native Instruments Rep had a conference call with head office last night and was told they should at last arrive at Native on Wednesday of this week and will start shipping on Friday 26th to dealers. We have not yet had any confirmation on the number of units we will be receiving. If we receive all that we have ordered, we will have more than enough to cover all backorders.
We therefore should be shipping these units out towards the end of the week of 29th.
As soon as we get tracking information of the shipment coming to us, we will forward the ship date to all customers.
Again, thanks for your patience.
Best regards
Julie
jroc453
2:39 PM 23 March 2010
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That's where the Brome software comes in. I choose (in the beginning) to not worry too much about the lights and concentrate on the functionally. Then Konix came along and solved the light issue.I have all of my lights set-up at 50% dimming and just look at my screen mostly...it's getting so I really don't have to look too much at the controller.
So there is a difference between mine and Konix's set-up.
I am hoping that Serato will look into more midi functionally within the next several months so we do not need a program like brome's.
Anyone know how to use Bomes??? I still don't know how to set up the lights on the Kontrol X1 using Bomes..
Dj BuddyLove
4:53 PM 23 March 2010
i got a question.
can you use 2 - X1'S to control ssl? (pretty sure you can)
and what is the with & lenght of these units?
im desiding on 2 - X1's or 1 of the Denon's.
im selling my Stanton 3D's. fuckers never fix issues with the firmwear.
no more stanton products for me.
can you use 2 - X1'S to control ssl? (pretty sure you can)
and what is the with & lenght of these units?
im desiding on 2 - X1's or 1 of the Denon's.
im selling my Stanton 3D's. fuckers never fix issues with the firmwear.
no more stanton products for me.
VJ Justin Allen
4:56 PM 23 March 2010
DJ BuddyLove
At this time using 2 X1 creates issues. The X1's cannot tell each other apart :) Native has said that they plan on addressing this issue with a new update.
At this time using 2 X1 creates issues. The X1's cannot tell each other apart :) Native has said that they plan on addressing this issue with a new update.
Dj BuddyLove
5:01 PM 23 March 2010
cool thanks for the info.
guess ill hold off until they adress the issue.
guess ill hold off until they adress the issue.
The Version Suicides
10:22 PM 23 March 2010
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I'm sure this will be the case for most vendors... just FYI!!!!The place where I'm getting a second X1 said pretty much the same thing, in case anyone needed a second opinion.
thanx jroc453
feniks
12:52 AM 24 March 2010
been using it for the past week. pretty cool...especially with the lights off and tha back lights on the X1 lit up. i was a bit reluctant at first as anything with NI association usually gets my shitcan right from the start. however, i agree with the above....def one of the top midi controllers out there right now. only thing it's lacking IMO is a fader control (to use with VSL), otherwise it's top notch.
VJ Justin Allen
1:52 AM 24 March 2010
I wouldn't be surprised if in a month or so if Traktor doesn't come out with a companion piece that has exactly that feniks.
DjWoody
2:11 AM 24 March 2010
I think it's also missing a 5th push button in addition to the crossfader. This would be an ideal configuration, in addition to the crossfader off course.
Push Button Top Left - VSL Effects for Left Deck
Push Button Top Right - VSL Effects for Right Deck
Push Button Top MIDDLE (MISSING BUTTON) - VSL Effects for the Main Output
Push Button Bottom Left - Loops Left Deck
Push Button Right - Loops Right Deck
Push Button Top Left - VSL Effects for Left Deck
Push Button Top Right - VSL Effects for Right Deck
Push Button Top MIDDLE (MISSING BUTTON) - VSL Effects for the Main Output
Push Button Bottom Left - Loops Left Deck
Push Button Right - Loops Right Deck
VJ Justin Allen
10:02 AM 24 March 2010
Here is my VSL set-up
Starting on the left side
Button 1 Opens VSL
Knob 1 gain control left side
Button 2 opens left effect 1
Knob 2 scrolls left effect 1
Button 3 opens left effect 2
Knob 3 scrolls left effect 2
Button 4 opens transition effects
Knob 4 scrolls transition effects
Starting on the right side
Button 1 not mapped
Knob 1 gain control right side
Button 2 opens right effect 1
Knob 2 scrolls right effect 1
Button 3 opens right effect 2
Knob 3 scrolls right effect 2
Button 4 not mapped
Knob 4 not mapped
I use the knobs below the top section for song scrolling and loading, loop loading and scrolling, loops latch and release, ins & out, cue points and a few other things.
I haven't even touched the shift key yet as I was playing with the VSL stuff. I am thinking about moving the VSL options to the 2nd page and making the front page more audio intensive...but I use so much video that I am not sure yet.
Starting on the left side
Button 1 Opens VSL
Knob 1 gain control left side
Button 2 opens left effect 1
Knob 2 scrolls left effect 1
Button 3 opens left effect 2
Knob 3 scrolls left effect 2
Button 4 opens transition effects
Knob 4 scrolls transition effects
Starting on the right side
Button 1 not mapped
Knob 1 gain control right side
Button 2 opens right effect 1
Knob 2 scrolls right effect 1
Button 3 opens right effect 2
Knob 3 scrolls right effect 2
Button 4 not mapped
Knob 4 not mapped
I use the knobs below the top section for song scrolling and loading, loop loading and scrolling, loops latch and release, ins & out, cue points and a few other things.
I haven't even touched the shift key yet as I was playing with the VSL stuff. I am thinking about moving the VSL options to the 2nd page and making the front page more audio intensive...but I use so much video that I am not sure yet.
dj-freestyle
4:21 PM 24 March 2010
Im useing my x1 and the denon and together they work great. best of both worlds for sure.
OhCeeDee
12:58 AM 26 March 2010
guitar center in chicago (on halsted) just got like 5 in (before any other stores in the midwest it seems) and i scooped one up right quick.
configuring it now, im working on a MIDIPipe file that splits one of the fx knobs on each side into two separate CC messages, which should allow me to map one knob to two separate fx within SSL 2.0 to create a DJM-800 style single-knob filter sweep.
configuring it now, im working on a MIDIPipe file that splits one of the fx knobs on each side into two separate CC messages, which should allow me to map one knob to two separate fx within SSL 2.0 to create a DJM-800 style single-knob filter sweep.
djmallon
1:10 AM 26 March 2010
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configuring it now, im working on a MIDIPipe file that splits one of the fx knobs on each side into two separate CC messages, which should allow me to map one knob to two separate fx within SSL 2.0 to create a DJM-800 style single-knob filter sweep.Interesting! Share your config files after?
OhCeeDee
2:25 AM 26 March 2010
Making progress except...
Whenever I unplug, and re-plug the X1 in, it doesnt save my setting for the off-state backlight.
So i put it at about 50%, unplug the X1, plug it back in, get the light show, and then no lights come back on except the green hotcue/midi light.
i tried saving the template and everything, i have to go back into the controller editor software and move the slider in prefs back up to get the LEDs to come on EVERY time i plug the X1 in.... annoying!
anyone else having this problem? Ive installed the lastest Controller Editor software and the latest drivers (same version thats on the CD)
Whenever I unplug, and re-plug the X1 in, it doesnt save my setting for the off-state backlight.
So i put it at about 50%, unplug the X1, plug it back in, get the light show, and then no lights come back on except the green hotcue/midi light.
i tried saving the template and everything, i have to go back into the controller editor software and move the slider in prefs back up to get the LEDs to come on EVERY time i plug the X1 in.... annoying!
anyone else having this problem? Ive installed the lastest Controller Editor software and the latest drivers (same version thats on the CD)
OhCeeDee
2:27 AM 26 March 2010
oh and it doesnt seem to matter if the "start in MIDI mode" box is checked either, it always starts with the HOTCUE button lit green, even though the checkbox defaults to UNCHECKED...?!
Konix? Any ideas?
Konix? Any ideas?
VJ Justin Allen
2:51 AM 26 March 2010
Save the controller file, reboot, then when you start up again open the controller file (then you can close it again) and it should work.
OhCeeDee
7:25 AM 26 March 2010
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Save the controller file, reboot, then when you start up again open the controller file (then you can close it again) and it should work.wow that fixed it! not sure why/how, but it did.
now im having another (possibly more serious problem). ive been playing with my MIDIPipe setup and got some really awesome MIDI wrangling set up to allow 1 fx knob/button on the x1 to control 2 seperate fx banks in SSL (combined with Konix's suggestion in his youtube video to make the momentary/gate buttons light when pressed), but suddenly MIDI output from the X1 has gone completely haywire.
MIDIPipe no longer sees the output from the X1 so none of those mappings are working, but its still sees the X1's input... also using MIDI Monitor, the X1 sometimes doesnt even show as being connected (no MIDI output sources) even though it shows up fine in the NI Controller Configuration software...
and lastly, sometimes MIDI monitor will show the X1's output (as "MIDI input port 0") and will show activity when turning knobs/pressing buttons, but Serato recognizes NOTHING from the X1 when in MIDI learn mode...
didi get a lemon? should i start a new thread? halp!
OhCeeDee
7:31 AM 26 March 2010
to clarify, the X1 is selectable in the "Midi Out" module of MIDIPipe, but it is not selectable in the "Midi In" module...?!
OhCeeDee
6:49 PM 26 March 2010
YES! got it figured out.
Using the "hijack" function in MIDIPipe completely borks the X1. I had to delete the X1 profile from Audio MIDI Setup utility to get the MIDI output from the X1 back.
I've also mostly finalized my MIDIPipe file along with my Serato xml file to allow some wicked filter sweeping!
Prob wont have time to post it today but hopefully tomorrow when i can get all the necessary config files together (MIDIPipe file, Controller Editor file, and SLL MIDI.xml file)
so excited to use this thing out this weekend :)
Using the "hijack" function in MIDIPipe completely borks the X1. I had to delete the X1 profile from Audio MIDI Setup utility to get the MIDI output from the X1 back.
I've also mostly finalized my MIDIPipe file along with my Serato xml file to allow some wicked filter sweeping!
Prob wont have time to post it today but hopefully tomorrow when i can get all the necessary config files together (MIDIPipe file, Controller Editor file, and SLL MIDI.xml file)
so excited to use this thing out this weekend :)
dj-freestyle
7:21 PM 26 March 2010
no wonder my denon seems so much simpler, i like the x1 but denon was plug ans play witch was nice, i know not enough buttons, ive heard it all. i like both dont get me wrong.
DjWoody
7:30 PM 26 March 2010
Kontrol X1 is pretty much plug & play too, just drop the settings in the Serato MIDI folder and you're done. But people like to customize it. That's why they keep talking about Midi Pipe, settings, and stuff like that.
dj-freestyle
7:34 PM 26 March 2010
For anybody in il who wants a x1, the gc in highland park and been closed for 2 days for power issues so they havent been able to sell there's out, my boy who works there said they should be open tomorrow hoepfully. they still have two full trucks to put out.
DCD
1:12 AM 27 March 2010
This might be a bit of a stupid question, but can you use the Maschine with SSL?
djmallon
6:17 AM 27 March 2010
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This might be a bit of a stupid question, but can you use the Maschine with SSL?Yup
OhCeeDee
11:06 PM 27 March 2010
Yeah you can use the deaf
exactly. you can definitely use the default Scratch LIVE profile that the X1 ships with, or theres even a 2.0 mapping on the NI forums that you can download, but i like to super customize my mappings, hence all the extra trouble. But its worth it :)
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Kontrol X1 is pretty much plug & play too, just drop the settings in the Serato MIDI folder and you're done. But people like to customize it. That's why they keep talking about Midi Pipe, settings, and stuff like that.exactly. you can definitely use the default Scratch LIVE profile that the X1 ships with, or theres even a 2.0 mapping on the NI forums that you can download, but i like to super customize my mappings, hence all the extra trouble. But its worth it :)
RogerRabbit
11:40 PM 27 March 2010
I have seen the Konix vids on these - anyone else got video rocking on an X1.
dj-freestyle
4:14 PM 28 March 2010
ya but u just plug the denon in and thats it, for mobile djing its alot more productive and for me it sits in a better place then the x1, the x1 takes up way to much space for mobile or clubs i think but i like my x1 to.
VJ Justin Allen
6:27 PM 28 March 2010
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the x1 takes up way to much space for mobile or clubs i thinkSo it's just for bedroom DJ's then? Wow.
OhCeeDee
7:15 PM 28 March 2010
def dont think it takes up too much space at a club, quite the opposite actually.
when i was using the LPD8 i was always having a hard time finding a good place to put it.
in front of the mixer it was too low/got in the way of my hands on the x-faders/up-faders and headphone cable depending on the mixer.
on the laptop stand in front of the laptop sort of defeated the purpose of not having to reach for my laptop to control SSL.
i usually found myself placing it vertically either next to my laptop (if the booth allowed for it) or between the mixer and TT on top of something, much like the X1 sits on its bag/stand.
i love the placement of the X1, it feels much more like a natural extension of the mixer to me.
when i was using the LPD8 i was always having a hard time finding a good place to put it.
in front of the mixer it was too low/got in the way of my hands on the x-faders/up-faders and headphone cable depending on the mixer.
on the laptop stand in front of the laptop sort of defeated the purpose of not having to reach for my laptop to control SSL.
i usually found myself placing it vertically either next to my laptop (if the booth allowed for it) or between the mixer and TT on top of something, much like the X1 sits on its bag/stand.
i love the placement of the X1, it feels much more like a natural extension of the mixer to me.
DJ_Phenom
10:40 PM 28 March 2010
just bought one likin it so far. is there a way to switch from scrolling through songs back to scrolling through crates?
OhCeeDee
10:48 PM 28 March 2010
you can map a button to switch tab focus in the MIDI assign panel that shows up when in MIDI assign mode.
kinda wish i could use the left rotary for crate scrolling and the right one for tracklist scrolling tho!
kinda wish i could use the left rotary for crate scrolling and the right one for tracklist scrolling tho!
asthmatic
11:32 PM 28 March 2010
can some of you guys post pics of where you have the x1 situated with your gear? Personally i'm interested in coffin pics, but i'm sure others would love to see any kind of x1 pics.
djdragon
11:49 PM 28 March 2010
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the x1 takes up way to much space for mobile or clubs i think but i like my x1 to.BS. Have you looked under the X1? See that little dimpled hole? That's so it sits on a turntable platter perfectly, and the physical size is exactly the size of the platter. Jeeze.
DJ_Phenom
12:11 AM 29 March 2010
I don't see how it takes up too much space either, It fits perfectly in between the TT and mixer. Will post up some pics later.
Dj BuddyLove
12:31 AM 29 March 2010
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can some of you guys post pics of where you have the x1 situated with your gear? Personally i'm interested in coffin pics, but i'm sure others would love to see any kind of x1 pics.konix.
how would 2 - X1's favor in this coffin, situation.
you got the DDM so you should kinda know the dimensions of the rack mounts & the X1.
picasaweb.google.com
C. William
12:33 AM 29 March 2010
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kinda wish i could use the left rotary for crate scrolling and the right one for tracklist scrolling tho!
this is basically the main reason i wanted to buy one...i thought that's how it worked anyway. can it be mapped to do this?
djmallon
12:44 AM 29 March 2010
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can some of you guys post pics of where you have the x1 situated with your gear? Personally i'm interested in coffin pics, but i'm sure others would love to see any kind of x1 pics.Here's how I have it in my setup....
www.iplaythemusic.com
www.iplaythemusic.com
www.iplaythemusic.com
VJ Justin Allen
12:00 PM 29 March 2010
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kinda wish i could use the left rotary for crate scrolling and the right one for tracklist scrolling tho!
this is basically the main reason i wanted to buy one...i thought that's how it worked anyway. can it be mapped to do this?
Each rotary knob has 2 functions, one is the obvious, moving left and right or just like a regular knob would work. The other function is as a button...just push it down.
Why not use the push down function to move windows and the knob to scroll through whatever window you are on?
Mine is not set-up so I cannot try this out today...
jroc453
1:27 PM 29 March 2010
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just bought one likin it so far. is there a way to switch from scrolling through songs back to scrolling through crates?I was at the WMC this weekend. I asked Shaun how to do this. By pressing TAB on your keyboard will do this.
djmallon
2:27 PM 29 March 2010
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I was at the WMC this weekend. I asked Shaun how to do this. By pressing TAB on your keyboard will do this.
that defeats the purpose of the controller then? Pretty sure you can map tab focus in the 'Show MIDI Panel' section after you click the main MIDI button.
dj-freestyle
4:13 PM 29 March 2010
Denon fits much better for my set up, not everybodys. Some of you need to chill the f out. Its just a piece of equipment.
VJ Justin Allen
4:46 PM 29 March 2010
Dude, it's ok to say that something works well for you but to then say the X1 is good for nothing but bedroom DJ's is just a little bit over the top.
Different people have different styles and use different equipment. You need to realize that.
Different people have different styles and use different equipment. You need to realize that.
dj-freestyle
6:36 PM 29 March 2010
i never said bedroom dj's, we all started as bedroom dj's for sure, i just meant its been easier for me to use denon out then the x1, again i love the x1 but for me the choice is the denon thats all. i get ur point but god forbid you voice a opion on here all hell breaks loose and even worse if konix loves it forget it. people freak. it cracks me up. i have both and love both.
RogerRabbit
7:15 PM 29 March 2010
^^Haha you just gotta accept, some folks got more juice than ya...
OhCeeDee
7:35 PM 29 March 2010
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...we all started as bedroom dj's for sure...my first time ever DJing was at a 4000 capacity megaclub in Ibiza, i thought that was how it was for everyone?
:)
DJ_Phenom
8:38 PM 29 March 2010
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kinda wish i could use the left rotary for crate scrolling and the right one for tracklist scrolling tho!
this is basically the main reason i wanted to buy one...i thought that's how it worked anyway. can it be mapped to do this?
Each rotary knob has 2 functions, one is the obvious, moving left and right or just like a regular knob would work. The other function is as a button...just push it down.
Why not use the push down function to move windows and the knob to scroll through whatever window you are on?
Mine is not set-up so I cannot try this out today...
I prefer pushing the button to load songs to corresponding decks, I think midi-mapping the tab would be the most convenient
OhCeeDee
8:45 PM 29 March 2010
i have tab switch and add to prepare list mapped to the FX1 and FX2 buttons under the right side browse encoder. works pretty well.
VJ Justin Allen
9:52 PM 29 March 2010
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I prefer pushing the button to load songs to corresponding decks, I think midi-mapping the tab would be the most convenientI agree 100%. Mine is set-up this way as well.
WarpNote
1:21 PM 30 March 2010
Lets not make this into NI vs Denon war. I've used both, and like dj freestyle I prefer the Denon. (I've got the hc1000, friend of mine got the x1) That being said, if you get either one you'll be more than satisfied. I don't agree that any of them blows the other one...
The X1: great set up software, espcially the dim lit function is nice, 32 buttons (including push rotaries), 12 rotaries (4 of them "endless") 2 pages of midi. Lighter than the denon, a little bulkier, vertical layout. bag/stand available. A tad more pricey than denon.
The hc1000: A little easier to use out of the box, nice blinking function when loops are active. No dim light function (At least not yet, Denon, this would make a nice extra, as I understand it is possible to light them up 50% ?) 45 buttons (including push rotaries), 4 midi pages and shift functions on each page, 3 endless rotaries (with extra shift function). Ssmaller form factor, a little heavier. Horisontal layout. A little cheaper. No bag/stand yet, but built in mount threads under it and should eventually available (I believe Denon is working with UDG...)
With a little creativity you should be able to make either work perfectly for you, both function wise and placement wise in the booth. So what it boils down to; try out both and get the one you like the most...
After all, thats what djing is all about - creativity...
The X1: great set up software, espcially the dim lit function is nice, 32 buttons (including push rotaries), 12 rotaries (4 of them "endless") 2 pages of midi. Lighter than the denon, a little bulkier, vertical layout. bag/stand available. A tad more pricey than denon.
The hc1000: A little easier to use out of the box, nice blinking function when loops are active. No dim light function (At least not yet, Denon, this would make a nice extra, as I understand it is possible to light them up 50% ?) 45 buttons (including push rotaries), 4 midi pages and shift functions on each page, 3 endless rotaries (with extra shift function). Ssmaller form factor, a little heavier. Horisontal layout. A little cheaper. No bag/stand yet, but built in mount threads under it and should eventually available (I believe Denon is working with UDG...)
With a little creativity you should be able to make either work perfectly for you, both function wise and placement wise in the booth. So what it boils down to; try out both and get the one you like the most...
After all, thats what djing is all about - creativity...
VJ Justin Allen
1:27 PM 30 March 2010
One other thing about the X1 that is very appealing (at least to me) is that you can tell when you are on midi page 2 (shift key lights up) and you have no idea what midi page you are on with the Denon.
WarpNote
2:21 PM 30 March 2010
Sure Justin I get that one, It would be nice if Denon included indicators for each page.
Still, most of the time, I use the native page. You can almost always see if you're on that page (page 1): tap button lights up if no track is loaded (or bpm is missing), cues and loops light up when tracks are loaded (I alway set at least one cue for tracks at the beginning, ie first down beat... - using play from first cue point)
And whenever changing pages the hc1000 lights up showing what page you've engaged.
Been using the hc1000 for almost 5 months now, and havent had any misfires due to midi page confusion, yet... took me about a 1 week getting used to switching between pages.
So basically I've set it up like this: Page 1 native, Page 2 mapped similar to native, only switched tap button for play/pause (ie "all internal mode"...) Page 3 mapped for FX. Will probably map page 4 for VSL (Not yet gotten into video)
Also a function that I like a lot, is the fast track search, not sure if that can be done with any other controller than the hc1000 ?
But again, get the midi controller you like the most, both of them are nice.
Still, most of the time, I use the native page. You can almost always see if you're on that page (page 1): tap button lights up if no track is loaded (or bpm is missing), cues and loops light up when tracks are loaded (I alway set at least one cue for tracks at the beginning, ie first down beat... - using play from first cue point)
And whenever changing pages the hc1000 lights up showing what page you've engaged.
Been using the hc1000 for almost 5 months now, and havent had any misfires due to midi page confusion, yet... took me about a 1 week getting used to switching between pages.
So basically I've set it up like this: Page 1 native, Page 2 mapped similar to native, only switched tap button for play/pause (ie "all internal mode"...) Page 3 mapped for FX. Will probably map page 4 for VSL (Not yet gotten into video)
Also a function that I like a lot, is the fast track search, not sure if that can be done with any other controller than the hc1000 ?
But again, get the midi controller you like the most, both of them are nice.
dj-freestyle
3:36 PM 30 March 2010
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^^Haha you just gotta accept, some folks got more juice than ya...[/quoteLets hope otherwise people are slippin.
OhCeeDee
6:10 PM 30 March 2010
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Can someone please help me with the Bonmes software... :-(yeah sorry ive never delved into it very deep so im not sure how to use Bome's!
jroc453
2:23 AM 31 March 2010
I would looove to use my lights on my X1....... But cant find out how to use bomes and the X1.
DJ SpinArt
2:11 AM 11 April 2010
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can some of you guys post pics of where you have the x1 situated with your gear? Personally i'm interested in coffin pics, but i'm sure others would love to see any kind of x1 pics.Here is how I have the X1 and everything else:
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jroc453
11:18 AM 16 April 2010
Ok... I am having a problem with my Kontrol X1. I just did a clean install of windows 7. Since then my Kontrol X1 is not being recognized automatically. I used to just plug it in and it would turn on and the lights would come on. Now it's plugged in and the only way I can get it to work is if I open the N.I. Controller Editor software. once I run that I get the light show and It is on. I never had to do that before I did the clean install.
What am I doing wrong? What did I forget to setup?
What am I doing wrong? What did I forget to setup?
VJ Justin Allen
11:52 AM 16 April 2010
That's interesting because on my Mac I need to open (then I can close it) the controller software before it will work.
jroc453
12:02 PM 16 April 2010
yup... thats what I have to do now but didn't before. I wonder if I had it setup different before.
Konix
1:00 PM 16 April 2010
In the Control Editor preferences (or in Traktor), do you have the option "Start in MIDI mode" checked?
dj_phear
3:17 PM 22 April 2010
i got another question regarding the kontrol x1. on the cjd´s 800/1000 you set the cue. not HOT CUES, just the normal orange lighted button next to the play button. when you push and hold it it will play the song from the moment you cued it until you release the button. then it stops! pushing the button will do it over and over again. i believe most of us are familiar with that function. anyways the question is:
is that possible with serato / kontrol x1? you know like without having to play the record...
thx
is that possible with serato / kontrol x1? you know like without having to play the record...
thx
jroc453
3:38 PM 22 April 2010
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i got another question regarding the kontrol x1. on the cjd´s 800/1000 you set the cue. not HOT CUES, just the normal orange lighted button next to the play button. when you push and hold it it will play the song from the moment you cued it until you release the button. then it stops! pushing the button will do it over and over again. i believe most of us are familiar with that function. anyways the question is:is that possible with serato / kontrol x1? you know like without having to play the record...
thx
I know what your talking about. Would be nice if you could. I'm sure their most be a setting to do that.
Konix
3:41 PM 22 April 2010
Yes, just press and hold the cue button (or in this case, the button on the X1 you have mapped). This is how the cue behavior already works when the control vinyl is stopped, or if in Internal mode, if the play button isn't engaged.
Konix
3:51 PM 22 April 2010
Whoops, spoke too soon, looks like it only works that way in Internal mode only, not Relative.
dj_phear
3:56 PM 22 April 2010
yeah... i know! and that sux! i love the way you can kick in drums or beats that way...
dj-freestyle
4:39 PM 22 April 2010
Would only work in internal otherwise you have to have the control cd or record playing to control the music, it make sense why it would not work in relative mode.
DjWoody
8:03 PM 22 April 2010
That's a feature that's already included on the SP6 sampler. I wish they would incorporate that into the main decks.
OhCeeDee
8:22 PM 25 April 2010
I think it also functions this way in HID mode if you're lucky enough to have access to one of the few decks that allow this.
SUBSTANCE
9:13 PM 5 May 2010
bought one of these on the weekend after watching Konix's videos and then seeing a few in a local shop. Really like what it's allowing me to do in my sets already.
Still haven't figured out the exact sequence of events to get the lights to flash when I touch them. I'm using midipipe and the controller editor. They light up sometimes, then sometimes I notice it's just the ones I've set to toggle.
anyway, cool piece of gear...
Still haven't figured out the exact sequence of events to get the lights to flash when I touch them. I'm using midipipe and the controller editor. They light up sometimes, then sometimes I notice it's just the ones I've set to toggle.
anyway, cool piece of gear...
jroc453
1:08 AM 6 May 2010
I will let Konix chime in... I have mine set up really nice. You need to have Midipipe running in the backround for it to work.
SUBSTANCE
1:15 AM 6 May 2010
it's weird. I've had it working fine on several occasions but sometimes the cue buttons aren't lighting up when I push them. No big deal, just gotta find out what I'm doing different to the times when it does work.
SUBSTANCE
1:17 AM 6 May 2010
...and yes I have midipipe etc running.
How do I make the rotary encoders scroll my library on the shift page aswell as the first page? i.e. duplicate the midi commands.
How do I make the rotary encoders scroll my library on the shift page aswell as the first page? i.e. duplicate the midi commands.
Konix
2:46 AM 6 May 2010
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How do I make the rotary encoders scroll my library on the shift page aswell as the first page? i.e. duplicate the midi commands.You have to assign the knobs the same CC# in the Control Editor app, on both pages.
SUBSTANCE
4:21 AM 6 May 2010
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And the answer to that is in the Controller Editor software set the Number field to the same number for both (or multiple) controls.thank you much...
SUBSTANCE
4:25 AM 6 May 2010
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How do I make the rotary encoders scroll my library on the shift page aswell as the first page? i.e. duplicate the midi commands.You have to assign the knobs the same CC# in the Control Editor app, on both pages.
and thanks to you also my friend....
OhCeeDee
5:06 AM 6 May 2010
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bought one of these on the weekend after watching Konix's videos and then seeing a few in a local shop. Really like what it's allowing me to do in my sets already.Still haven't figured out the exact sequence of events to get the lights to flash when I touch them. I'm using midipipe and the controller editor. They light up sometimes, then sometimes I notice it's just the ones I've set to toggle.
anyway, cool piece of gear...
MIDIPipe LED feedback wont work if Controller Editor is open at the same time as MIDIPipe.
This was a problem I noticed too until i realized it was only not working while Controller Editor was open.
Do you have Controller Editor open?
jroc453
3:13 PM 12 May 2010
So I see N.I. changed the crappy design of the case. My zipper always gets stuck and it's almost imposable to get it in and out of the case. If I take the cover of it's so hard to get it back on. I am very unhappy with this thing. I am gonna call today to see if they will exchange it for a new one.
Take a look : www.native-instruments.com
Take a look : www.native-instruments.com
VJ Justin Allen
3:16 PM 12 May 2010
I never saw the old design. Is the new design so that it stays inside the bag like the picture shows?
jroc453
3:19 PM 12 May 2010
Thats what it looks like. It also looks like the got rid of the zipper an replaced it with a sleeve. At least thats what I hope they did. I hope they made the case a little bigger too. It just fits inside.
jroc453
3:22 PM 12 May 2010
I'm gonna call them at noon eastern time and see what they say... cuz I really hate taking it in and out of the case every weekend. It really is a bad design. But love the controller ;-)
djmallon
3:28 PM 12 May 2010
new case? ah fuck! i dont mind the one now, its a bit tough getting it out once you've put it in (that's what she said)
jroc453
3:53 PM 12 May 2010
I would hope they will replace mine since its only about 2 months old. I will post what they said. I'm calling an ten min's. They better make things right...
jroc453
4:10 PM 12 May 2010
Wow... They are shipping out the new one once they get them in. No questions asked... I guess they are aware of the flaw... They said they are getting them in in 2-3 weeks.
SUBSTANCE
9:31 PM 12 May 2010
yup, that case design was pretty shit. Really hard to take the X1 out but kinda neccesary to have the stand for operating at turntable height.
OhCeeDee
1:36 AM 14 May 2010
thanks for the heads up on the bags. a mod at the NI forums got pretty defensive when i asked if they would replace older bags but it looks like they might be willing to anyways.
monkeybiz
1:49 AM 14 May 2010
I have the older bag. I don't have any problems sliding the unit into the case, I just tuck one end in, then slide the other end down. It's a snug fit, but I just take the unit out with one finger at either end of the unit and do the opposite of what I described above.
The zippered lid panel is kind of cluttery on the old unit, but I don't suppose the new version solves that either. I sometimes just take the unit out to gigs in the bag without the zippered lid.
The zippered lid panel is kind of cluttery on the old unit, but I don't suppose the new version solves that either. I sometimes just take the unit out to gigs in the bag without the zippered lid.
OhCeeDee
2:14 AM 14 May 2010
pretty sure the lid on the new one goes down into the case to create the top of the stand, which is why it has those leather looking strips across the top.
jroc453
2:21 AM 14 May 2010
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thanks for the heads up on the bags. a mod at the NI forums got pretty defensive when i asked if they would replace older bags but it looks like they might be willing to anyways.I could see them getting upset if nothing was wrong with it. But I guess the one I got was messed up really bad. It needs to be replaced. I'm not just trying to get the new bag. I just want one that works.
DJ Sniffles
2:25 AM 14 May 2010
With the new fx in SL 2, it'd be nice to see a dedicated controller similar to the Kontrol
OhCeeDee
5:34 AM 14 May 2010
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thanks for the heads up on the bags. a mod at the NI forums got pretty defensive when i asked if they would replace older bags but it looks like they might be willing to anyways.I could see them getting upset if nothing was wrong with it. But I guess the one I got was messed up really bad. It needs to be replaced. I'm not just trying to get the new bag. I just want one that works.
well the fabric feels like its going to tear every time i put it in/take it out so id say thats a little ridiculous considering it was $40, but yeah well see what they say. going to call tomorrow.
serato would definitely do well to have rane or a partner build a similar controller specifically for SSL!
hotmixfive
8:22 AM 14 May 2010
My X1 dropped this morning. Though those bandits at FedEx have clearly battered the box about.
I've been watching Konix's video all week (Thanks Konix) and I'm going to try and get to grips with it later.
Would you guys recommend the case? Even for raising it?
I've got that UDG Creator bag though after years of taking it to clubs and overseas it's kinda weathered and nearly all but one of the zips has broken off - expect a bit more considering how much I tilled up for it! I don't think it will provide ideal protection now I've just typed that.
I've been watching Konix's video all week (Thanks Konix) and I'm going to try and get to grips with it later.
Would you guys recommend the case? Even for raising it?
I've got that UDG Creator bag though after years of taking it to clubs and overseas it's kinda weathered and nearly all but one of the zips has broken off - expect a bit more considering how much I tilled up for it! I don't think it will provide ideal protection now I've just typed that.
OhCeeDee
9:17 PM 14 May 2010
the bag is worth it to protect the X1 and the fact that it doubles as a stand is a huge bonus. playing with that thing at sunk below your mixer/tables is way awkward.
jroc453
11:46 PM 14 May 2010
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the bag is worth it to protect the X1 and the fact that it doubles as a stand is a huge bonus. playing with that thing at sunk below your mixer/tables is way awkward.+1
DJ Oasys
5:46 PM 15 May 2010
LED on and off light inconsistently working and only random buttons will lit up with midi pipe running? Any suggestions to make it work? Thanks.
hotmixfive
9:33 PM 15 May 2010
Weird. Just got to my gig and fired everything up after messing around all day and now nothing works. :-/ I'm not even getting the buttons to light up when pressed.
I used the USB cable that used to power my SL1 unit - I left the cable I got that I'd been using today with the X1 at home.
Crazy as it sounds, though the cable is kinda loose and when I moved it the lights flickered. Obviously I got edgy and thought whether I was about to fry it something crazy. Being brand new and all that. Could the cable have anything to do with it connection wise?
Just clutching at straws here as I've pretty much done everything I did earlier today.
Weird. Annoyed too.
I used the USB cable that used to power my SL1 unit - I left the cable I got that I'd been using today with the X1 at home.
Crazy as it sounds, though the cable is kinda loose and when I moved it the lights flickered. Obviously I got edgy and thought whether I was about to fry it something crazy. Being brand new and all that. Could the cable have anything to do with it connection wise?
Just clutching at straws here as I've pretty much done everything I did earlier today.
Weird. Annoyed too.
VJ Justin Allen
11:20 PM 15 May 2010
Is the X1 cable plugged into a powered usb port or the laptop? You may not have enough power going to it.
ral
7:54 PM 16 May 2010
got the x1 - as konix said, dope controller it is! mapped efx, loop roll, cue, vsl - sampler, dunno where to put it..
now i gotta find me a serato/rane sticker to cover traktor logo
now i gotta find me a serato/rane sticker to cover traktor logo
djmallon
12:07 AM 17 May 2010
anyone received their overlays yet? Mine didn't come with a serato one...I did the whole thing on the NI site, haven't received anything.
SUBSTANCE
2:34 AM 17 May 2010
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Weird. Just got to my gig and fired everything up after messing around all day and now nothing works. :-/ I'm not even getting the buttons to light up when pressed..this was asked and answered earlier in the thread...
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MIDIPipe LED feedback wont work if Controller Editor is open at the same time as MIDIPipe.
This was a problem I noticed too until i realized it was only not working while Controller Editor was open.
Do you have Controller Editor open?
DJ Oasys
5:49 AM 17 May 2010
I got my serato overlay from the x1 I bought. My x1 worked perfectly without running the midi pipe in the background. Turned on my MAC and the x1 controler remember the last session with serato.
SUBSTANCE
6:24 AM 17 May 2010
The buttons won't light up when you push them if you don't use midipipe.
So yes, the X1 will work, but not as effectively as it can.
So yes, the X1 will work, but not as effectively as it can.
hotmixfive
8:58 AM 17 May 2010
Hey everyone
Yep MidiPipe running in the background. I tried Konix's configuration along with OCD's and the beta one SSL 2.0 one from NI.
During this time when in operation the Control Editor was closed down.
The X1 is powered by USB directly to the latop. Had no problems during Saturday day time when making sure everything was sound before hitting the road for the gig.
I'm going to try going through it all again tonight. I know it's going to be something stupid.
Thanks for the help / assistance so far.
Yep MidiPipe running in the background. I tried Konix's configuration along with OCD's and the beta one SSL 2.0 one from NI.
During this time when in operation the Control Editor was closed down.
The X1 is powered by USB directly to the latop. Had no problems during Saturday day time when making sure everything was sound before hitting the road for the gig.
I'm going to try going through it all again tonight. I know it's going to be something stupid.
Thanks for the help / assistance so far.
feniks
1:15 PM 17 May 2010
I used the X1 at my last gig and it worked flawlessly. Trick is you have to sometimes open the controller software briefly and THEN open midipipe (as stated...the controller editor cannot be left open and must be closed before starting midipipe). It's also been hit or miss with it remembering the last midi config (usually it does though) so I always save the config before I close (if I've made any significant changes) and then reload everytime I start the program. It's gotten to be so this is the ONLY midi controller I use now. My only complaints: needs bigger buttons and a fader
VJ Justin Allen
4:57 PM 17 May 2010
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Now i know why i love my denon so much more then my x1.:)You keep saying the same thing and people keep telling you that using the X1 with the midipipe is an ADVANCED use of the X1. And you keep being told that using the pre-set X1 set-up and not wanted every light to give to LED feedback works 100% flawlessly and has far more options than the Denon.
SO...you have been told again these same things. Now please go an play with your Denon in private somewhere since you seem to be having some sort of relationship with it.
jroc453
8:53 PM 17 May 2010
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Now i know why i love my denon so much more then my x1.:)You keep saying the same thing and people keep telling you that using the X1 with the midipipe is an ADVANCED use of the X1. And you keep being told that using the pre-set X1 set-up and not wanted every light to give to LED feedback works 100% flawlessly and has far more options than the Denon.
SO...you have been told again these same things. Now please go an play with your Denon in private somewhere since you seem to be having some sort of relationship with it.
Ha ha... nice...
DJ Oasys
1:45 AM 18 May 2010
Weird but I don't have to open the midipipe to work the X1. All the buttons turned on and off the way I config it e.g efx, samplers, etc... So far so gooood. No issues.
OhCeeDee
3:31 AM 18 May 2010
peeps, you dont need midipipe to use the x1, just for MOMENTARY LED feedback on the blue buttons and other advanced functions.
feniks
12:45 PM 18 May 2010
Yep. Midipipe us just to get the buttons to light up when pressed. Just for asthetics...
ral
1:46 PM 18 May 2010
i think
i think AFTER you setup the light ON/OFF state of the button, no need to open the midipipe after that.
always restart your lappy every now and then to test the setup if it's working properly.
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Weird but I don't have to open the midipipe to work the X1. All the buttons turned on and off the way I config it e.g efx, samplers, etc... So far so gooood. No issues.i think AFTER you setup the light ON/OFF state of the button, no need to open the midipipe after that.
always restart your lappy every now and then to test the setup if it's working properly.
dj-freestyle
6:02 PM 18 May 2010
Aw justin if that makes you feel better then go with it little buddy.
OhCeeDee
7:41 PM 18 May 2010
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i think AFTER you setup the light ON/OFF state of the button, no need to open the midipipe after that.
always restart your lappy every now and then to test the setup if it's working properly.
midipipe has to be open in order to do its thing.
ral
8:03 PM 18 May 2010
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i think AFTER you setup the light ON/OFF state of the button, no need to open the midipipe after that.
always restart your lappy every now and then to test the setup if it's working properly.
midipipe has to be open in order to do its thing.
just try NOT to open midipipe (of course AFTER everything is setup). i just did. and it works. let us know.
OhCeeDee
5:31 AM 19 May 2010
the blue momentary LEDs also light up?
i dont have my x1 right so cant check for myself :)
i dont have my x1 right so cant check for myself :)
dj flix
3:01 AM 20 May 2010
someone with a pc, using a midi translator for x1 ?
i've got my x1 now and wan't them buttons to light up.
checked the konix tutorial, but unfortunately he's using a mac ;) and midipipe, which is not available for pc.
i've got my x1 now and wan't them buttons to light up.
checked the konix tutorial, but unfortunately he's using a mac ;) and midipipe, which is not available for pc.
jroc453
12:46 PM 20 May 2010
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someone with a pc, using a midi translator for x1 ?i've got my x1 now and wan't them buttons to light up.
checked the konix tutorial, but unfortunately he's using a mac ;) and midipipe, which is not available for pc.
You can use Bomes but I have no idea how to use it. When I was using a PC I tried to use it... Sorry I can't help you out with that program. It's a bitch...
The real DJ Big Ant
3:17 PM 25 May 2010
I like the fact that I don't have to touch my Mac. But I'm not sure how to make this a part of my setup. I'm using a MacBookPro, but ALL of my music is on external drives. My Mac only has 2 USB Ports. I'm using one for the SL3 Box and the other for my drives. How can I get around this, so I can add the X1 to my setup? Thanks for your input..
jroc453
7:33 PM 25 May 2010
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or get a fire wire external+1 Thats what I had to do. SL1 + Kontrol X1 on my two usb's then my 1tb on the 800firewire.
DJ Eighty 8
10:40 PM 25 May 2010
I put a WD Scorpio Blue 640GB hard drive in my MacBook Pro, so that should hold me for awhile. I just have my SL3 and my X1 on my usb ports. Upgrading your internal is the way to go...........
GBDCrew
11:31 PM 25 May 2010
Wait, toshiba is going to made some internal HDD 2.5" that turn at 10 000 rpm (like velocyraptor but for laptop) :D
Or buy two velocyraptor in raid 0 with firewire interface that 'll rock :D (but not very light and ergonomic XD)
Or buy two velocyraptor in raid 0 with firewire interface that 'll rock :D (but not very light and ergonomic XD)
Konix
5:28 PM 2 June 2010
Anyone know where to get the new style bag/case in the USA? Every place I looked is either out of stock or it's the old style bag (at least by the pics).
Jensen Määäm
12:43 PM 3 June 2010
Are you talking about the bag for the Kontrol X1, Konix? Is new style the one with the zipper and old school the one with the velcro? Have youo tried the shop on the NI website? I bought my bag (with the velcro) directly from NI, but here in Germany. I have to say, when the Kontrol is sitting on the bag, the Kontroll is a bit too low, because the usb connection is a bit bend up.
DJ Eighty 8
3:02 PM 3 June 2010
I just gave up on trying to get the bag myself and just made a sort of battle bridge for my X1. I got the idea from seeing the Road Ready battle bridge made for mixers and when I'm on the go my X1 and bridge fit inside my UDG Creator bag. It blends right in, it's light and I never touch my MacBook.
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jroc453
6:07 PM 3 June 2010
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I just gave up on trying to get the bag myself and just made a sort of battle bridge for my X1. I got the idea from seeing the Road Ready battle bridge made for mixers and when I'm on the go my X1 and bridge fit inside my UDG Creator bag. It blends right in, it's light and I never touch my MacBook.img686.imageshack.us
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What & how did you make that? Very nice bro...
feniks
12:47 AM 4 June 2010
would interfere with scratching and juggling on the R side. looks very clean though.
DJ Eighty 8
2:19 PM 4 June 2010
I made it outta sheet metal, I'm a mechanic by trade and I can fabricate just about anything. It looks like it would be in the way, but it's really not. Just imagine yourself with a 12" or 19" mixer, it's just as normal as having a wider mixer. I really favored the Denon at first because it was so compact and it fit right above my mixer and I needed no special bags or boxes to hold it in place. Now that I made the bridge it's like my X1 is just part of my control panel/mixer and I just have total control over my music. Not wearing down my MacBook is a plus and I can't see myself not having a MIDI controller ever.
RogerRabbit
2:35 PM 4 June 2010
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I made it outta sheet metal, I'm a mechanic by trade and I can fabricate just about anything. It looks like it would be in the way, but it's really not. Just imagine yourself with a 12" or 19" mixer, it's just as normal as having a wider mixer. I really favored the Denon at first because it was so compact and it fit right above my mixer and I needed no special bags or boxes to hold it in place. Now that I made the bridge it's like my X1 is just part of my control panel/mixer and I just have total control over my music. Not wearing down my MacBook is a plus and I can't see myself not having a MIDI controller ever.You should make and sell:.
Evin Kepik
5:19 PM 4 June 2010
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Are you talking about the bag for the Kontrol X1, Konix? Is new style the one with the zipper and old school the one with the velcro? Have youo tried the shop on the NI website? I bought my bag (with the velcro) directly from NI, but here in Germany. I have to say, when the Kontrol is sitting on the bag, the Kontroll is a bit too low, because the usb connection is a bit bend up.Velcro = NEW
Zipper = OLD
jroc453
6:37 PM 4 June 2010
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I made it outta sheet metal, I'm a mechanic by trade and I can fabricate just about anything. It looks like it would be in the way, but it's really not. Just imagine yourself with a 12" or 19" mixer, it's just as normal as having a wider mixer. I really favored the Denon at first because it was so compact and it fit right above my mixer and I needed no special bags or boxes to hold it in place. Now that I made the bridge it's like my X1 is just part of my control panel/mixer and I just have total control over my music. Not wearing down my MacBook is a plus and I can't see myself not having a MIDI controller ever.You should make and sell:.
I would buy it....
popnwave
12:26 PM 5 June 2010
I am really starting to love my X1.. only thing I wish it had was a fader with clean preset to do the VSL fade back and forth but I guess this is good motivation to just grab a new mixer with at least that built in.
vega
4:23 PM 16 June 2010
is there a way to map one of the big knobs to scroll the crates, while the other one scrolls the tracks?
saw on the NI forum that its possible for traktor using some "TREE" value... but i tried on serato and it doesnt seem to have the same name or function or w/e.
is there a list a of all the functions you can call on serato in midi?
saw on the NI forum that its possible for traktor using some "TREE" value... but i tried on serato and it doesnt seem to have the same name or function or w/e.
is there a list a of all the functions you can call on serato in midi?
dj flix
4:25 PM 16 June 2010
why don't you just assign one button for tabbing ?
thats how i do it.
pretty easy.
thats how i do it.
pretty easy.
vega
4:52 PM 16 June 2010
yea, i've seen that. But i'd rather just have one knob do crates, 1 do tracks... even easier than tabbing
Jensen Määäm
4:56 PM 16 June 2010
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is there a way to map one of the big knobs to scroll the crates, while the other one scrolls the tracks?saw on the NI forum that its possible for traktor using some "TREE" value... but i tried on serato and it doesnt seem to have the same name or function or w/e.
is there a list a of all the functions you can call on serato in midi?
Why don't you want to use the same knob to do all that, it's the easiest way!
Look I turn the knob to scroll through my crates, if I want to jump into a crate I just push the button and I'm in, turn the knob again and scroll through my songs. If I want to jump back to my crates, I push another button, which I assigned for this function.
If you click on the midi button in the SL software you'll see what is assignable.
Then in the middle of the screen is another button, can't remember the name...if you click that, a window is folding up and you can see more functions you can assign. I recommend to watch all the MIDI mapping vids Konix did!
www.youtube.com view
vega
5:28 PM 16 June 2010
thx for the suggestion dude.. but again, i know about the tab focus thingy.
trying to figure out if I can do it the way i described above. I know there are more advanced options that I cant figure out yet... seen dude messing with the xml file and the provided software midipipe.
so for those dudes, is there a command for "TREE"?
trying to figure out if I can do it the way i described above. I know there are more advanced options that I cant figure out yet... seen dude messing with the xml file and the provided software midipipe.
so for those dudes, is there a command for "TREE"?
LuDj
12:44 PM 21 June 2010
Hi
I'm waiting for the kontrol x1
Now I'm using serato trough midi mode with my cdj 400, and a Korg Nanopad with a notebook Windows Xp.
I want to know if is it possible use serato with together 400, Nanopad and kontrol X1? Or is there some problem because there are 3 midi controller??
And what is the solution actually for we have windows instead mac (no midipipe), for the led ???
Thanks
And Excuse for my english I'm italian!
I'm waiting for the kontrol x1
Now I'm using serato trough midi mode with my cdj 400, and a Korg Nanopad with a notebook Windows Xp.
I want to know if is it possible use serato with together 400, Nanopad and kontrol X1? Or is there some problem because there are 3 midi controller??
And what is the solution actually for we have windows instead mac (no midipipe), for the led ???
Thanks
And Excuse for my english I'm italian!
dj flix
10:30 AM 22 June 2010
yeah, but it seems that nobody knows how to use the bome midi translator.
LuDj
10:33 AM 22 June 2010
Is there some guide or tutorial for configuration of bome midi???
And my first question?? Some problem for working with cdj 400 via midi, korg nanopad and Kontrol X1???
Thanks
And my first question?? Some problem for working with cdj 400 via midi, korg nanopad and Kontrol X1???
Thanks
Konix
5:44 PM 9 July 2010
Alright, after numerous inquires and requests (seriously, I get like 5-10 messages a week about this on my Youtube), I present...
HOW TO GET YOUR X1'S LIGHTS TO LIGHT UP ON A PC
You will need to download and install these two little programs
1) MIDI Yoke... www.midiox.com (direct download www.midiox.com )
***If you are using Vista or Windows 7, you MUST disable UAC before installing MIDI Yoke or it will not work correctly.***
2) MusicLab MIDI Device Connection Center... www.musiclab.com (direct .exe download link... www.musiclab.com)
So download and install these two things, note you will need to reboot after installing MIDI Yoke.
Now some background info. I've stated that you will need to use Bome's MIDI translator on a PC in order to get the X1's LEDs to light up. However, I've never really tested this and just assumed it would work and thought it would be just as easy on Windows PCs as it is with Macs with MIDIPipe. Unfortunately as we all know by now, that's not the case. Windows doesn't work quite the same as OSX does (what a surprise). It's possible with Bome's to light the LEDs on the X1, it's simple really, all you do is select the MIDI Thru option and viola, the LEDs light up. Problem is though, load up Scratch Live and try to map it, it won't work, as Scratch Live cannot "see" the message the X1 is sending as Bome's is the "middle man" and blocking the messages. Cause when you enable MIDI Thru mode in Bome's, any messages the X1 sends just gets sent back to the X1 (i.e to light the LEDs) and not to Scratch Live. This is what you need MIDI Yoke for, to send the messages from the X1 to the virtual MIDI port, than to Scratch Live, but back out the the X1 as well to light the LEDs. Macs/OSX have this functionality already built in and why all you need is MIDIPipe, Windows does not this functionality, at least not by default and why you need MIDI Yoke.
Anyway, instead of using Bome's, we're going to be using the MusicLab MIDI Connection center. It's a lot simpler and easier. Just open the program and you should see this...
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On the first row, select the X1 as the input, and MIDIYoke1 as the output, in the second row, select MIDIYoke1 as the input, and the X1 as the output...
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then press the two Connect buttons in the middle to connect the ports...
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and that's it! Now the lights on the X1 should light up (those that are set to triggers in the X1 Control Editor, remember toggles will already light up regardless). Now just go into Scratch Live and map away (if you haven't already).
Hope this help those with Windows/PCs that want their X1's LEDs to light up.
Video to come soon.
And of course, we wouldn't need to go through all this trouble if Scratch Live just had MIDI output. C'mon Serato and get on it! ;)
HOW TO GET YOUR X1'S LIGHTS TO LIGHT UP ON A PC
You will need to download and install these two little programs
1) MIDI Yoke... www.midiox.com (direct download www.midiox.com )
***If you are using Vista or Windows 7, you MUST disable UAC before installing MIDI Yoke or it will not work correctly.***
2) MusicLab MIDI Device Connection Center... www.musiclab.com (direct .exe download link... www.musiclab.com)
So download and install these two things, note you will need to reboot after installing MIDI Yoke.
Now some background info. I've stated that you will need to use Bome's MIDI translator on a PC in order to get the X1's LEDs to light up. However, I've never really tested this and just assumed it would work and thought it would be just as easy on Windows PCs as it is with Macs with MIDIPipe. Unfortunately as we all know by now, that's not the case. Windows doesn't work quite the same as OSX does (what a surprise). It's possible with Bome's to light the LEDs on the X1, it's simple really, all you do is select the MIDI Thru option and viola, the LEDs light up. Problem is though, load up Scratch Live and try to map it, it won't work, as Scratch Live cannot "see" the message the X1 is sending as Bome's is the "middle man" and blocking the messages. Cause when you enable MIDI Thru mode in Bome's, any messages the X1 sends just gets sent back to the X1 (i.e to light the LEDs) and not to Scratch Live. This is what you need MIDI Yoke for, to send the messages from the X1 to the virtual MIDI port, than to Scratch Live, but back out the the X1 as well to light the LEDs. Macs/OSX have this functionality already built in and why all you need is MIDIPipe, Windows does not this functionality, at least not by default and why you need MIDI Yoke.
Anyway, instead of using Bome's, we're going to be using the MusicLab MIDI Connection center. It's a lot simpler and easier. Just open the program and you should see this...
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On the first row, select the X1 as the input, and MIDIYoke1 as the output, in the second row, select MIDIYoke1 as the input, and the X1 as the output...
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then press the two Connect buttons in the middle to connect the ports...
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and that's it! Now the lights on the X1 should light up (those that are set to triggers in the X1 Control Editor, remember toggles will already light up regardless). Now just go into Scratch Live and map away (if you haven't already).
Hope this help those with Windows/PCs that want their X1's LEDs to light up.
Video to come soon.
And of course, we wouldn't need to go through all this trouble if Scratch Live just had MIDI output. C'mon Serato and get on it! ;)
No Handle
2:34 AM 10 July 2010
This discussion has been really helpful. Just by reading this discussion I've been able to customize my X1 and Serato mappings in tandem to make it do (almost) exactly what I want. So first, big thanks to the contributors thus far!
I'm getting stuck with one minor issue with the LEDs. Keep in mind that I'm not using third-party software (I'd like to avoid that for now, just because lighted-buttons aren't all that important to me).
I haven't figured out how to make the LEDs light only when a button is pressed, and then go dim when the button is released. I know that the X1 can handle something like this because the SHIFT button has that functionality already. ON when being pressed and held down, OFF when you let go. I specifically want this for censor buttons. Again, not a huge deal, but it seems like it'd be a simple setting.
Back in 2009 I was doing a lot of crazy glitching stuff without any controllers at all : www.youtube.com view ... I had a NanoPad for a while, and NI just sent me an X1 as part of a sponsorship... I think this might be my new favorite box.
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I'm getting stuck with one minor issue with the LEDs. Keep in mind that I'm not using third-party software (I'd like to avoid that for now, just because lighted-buttons aren't all that important to me).
I haven't figured out how to make the LEDs light only when a button is pressed, and then go dim when the button is released. I know that the X1 can handle something like this because the SHIFT button has that functionality already. ON when being pressed and held down, OFF when you let go. I specifically want this for censor buttons. Again, not a huge deal, but it seems like it'd be a simple setting.
Back in 2009 I was doing a lot of crazy glitching stuff without any controllers at all : www.youtube.com view ... I had a NanoPad for a while, and NI just sent me an X1 as part of a sponsorship... I think this might be my new favorite box.
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OhCeeDee
11:28 PM 11 July 2010
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I haven't figured out how to make the LEDs light only when a button is pressed, and then go dim when the button is released. I know that the X1 can handle something like this because the SHIFT button has that functionality already. ON when being pressed and held down, OFF when you let go. I specifically want this for censor buttons. Again, not a huge deal, but it seems like it'd be a simple setting.Unfortunately this isnt possible yet without using a 3rd party app like MIDI Pipe. If SSL had options to send MIDI messages back to the controller, or NI's controller editor had an option to light up buttons that are set to momentary (press/release), it would be a different story. Hopefully one of thee things will get implemented in the near future though.
No Handle
2:59 PM 13 July 2010
Thanks OCD, I figured this after checking out Konix's tutorials. MIDI Pipe is plenty simple though, I'll just use the workaround in the meantime.
GRiNDBoX
3:22 PM 13 July 2010
anyone got a demo for video sl on this one? im thinkin of buying x1 or the dicer...pretty confused here now..
ral
3:42 PM 13 July 2010
i have a lil video demo in here, and settings, no vsl demo but, you'll get the idea
www.scratchlive.net
www.scratchlive.net
GRiNDBoX
3:51 PM 13 July 2010
ok ill check it..because i use a usb midi interface for the crossfading of my vidz..if i buy x1 do i stil need another usb interface for the fader transitions...
dj-freestyle
3:13 PM 14 July 2010
no you can use the x1 to fade videos. i dont think you could fade video with the dicer tho.
Dj-M.Bezzle
3:20 PM 14 July 2010
you dont really need a knob to fade video, you can map the auto and instant scrolls top button, ive found in most cases its more efficient like that anyway
GRiNDBoX
3:24 PM 14 July 2010
well its very hard i need to use a midi interface to crossfades my vidz..and besides mbp only got 2 usb ports..:(
Dj-M.Bezzle
3:40 PM 14 July 2010
whats very hard?? Also use a USB hub, right now i use a korg nanokontrol to crossfae video and effects, a denon hc 1000 for loops and cues an external HD all running off a hub
GRiNDBoX
4:19 PM 14 July 2010
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whats very hard?? Also use a USB hub, right now i use a korg nanokontrol to crossfae video and effects, a denon hc 1000 for loops and cues an external HD all running off a hubso is it ok to use a powered USB hub for midi Controllers? coz i havnt tried it..im afraid ill be having a problems with my sL for dropouts..so now it make sense...thanks bro
Dj-M.Bezzle
4:21 PM 14 July 2010
hubs are perfect for midi controllers just dont plug your SL? into the hub, the SL box gets its own USB port and the rest of the midi controllers go on the hub. i even ran it on an unpowered cheap hub and still havd no issues 0 dropouts
JMacrosoft
6:15 PM 14 July 2010
After doing research on the TK X1 I'm going with that over the dicer(s). DO WANT!
No Handle
11:40 PM 22 July 2010
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I haven't figured out how to make the LEDs light only when a button is pressed, and then go dim when the button is released. I know that the X1 can handle something like this because the SHIFT button has that functionality already. ON when being pressed and held down, OFF when you let go. I specifically want this for censor buttons. Again, not a huge deal, but it seems like it'd be a simple setting.Unfortunately this isnt possible yet without using a 3rd party app like MIDI Pipe. If SSL had options to send MIDI messages back to the controller, or NI's controller editor had an option to light up buttons that are set to momentary (press/release), it would be a different story. Hopefully one of thee things will get implemented in the near future though.
I ended up using MIDI Pipe, which was incredibly easy after following Konix's tutorials. Thanks!
Mighty Maxx
5:38 AM 25 July 2010
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Yes, I can upload my mappings.Konix:
Thanks for the great vids! Did you ever upload your mappings? I searched a lot of the forums and can not seem to locate them, though I have seen references to them. That is for the X1 by the way.
Dave BEE
10:30 AM 30 July 2010
im thinking of getting the x1 too.it was a choice between the dicer and denon.
im using serato 2.0.is there anything that cant be mapped and these dreaded lights have they been sorted out? cheers
im using serato 2.0.is there anything that cant be mapped and these dreaded lights have they been sorted out? cheers
edypiro
3:27 PM 30 July 2010
i there,
i'm doing my own mapping for the Kontrol X1 and I have a small problem, hope someone might help me.
I'm on MAc using midipipe and scratch live.
Basically i want the FX buttons next to the top 4 knobs to stay lit up when the effect is active (and lit off when the effect is deactivated).
I mapped it in to the controller editor as "toggle" (not "gate") as I want it activate until I press it again.
What happen instead is that I have to double click the button in order to deactivate the lights and the effect. Basically at the first click the light goes off (but the effect stays on) at the second click the effect switches off.
If I map the same button to "loop roll" for example, it behaves correctly.
It's really frustrating, does anyone know why that happen ?
thanks
i'm doing my own mapping for the Kontrol X1 and I have a small problem, hope someone might help me.
I'm on MAc using midipipe and scratch live.
Basically i want the FX buttons next to the top 4 knobs to stay lit up when the effect is active (and lit off when the effect is deactivated).
I mapped it in to the controller editor as "toggle" (not "gate") as I want it activate until I press it again.
What happen instead is that I have to double click the button in order to deactivate the lights and the effect. Basically at the first click the light goes off (but the effect stays on) at the second click the effect switches off.
If I map the same button to "loop roll" for example, it behaves correctly.
It's really frustrating, does anyone know why that happen ?
thanks
djmallon
3:28 PM 30 July 2010
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i there,i'm doing my own mapping for the Kontrol X1 and I have a small problem, hope someone might help me.
I'm on MAc using midipipe and scratch live.
Basically i want the FX buttons next to the top 4 knobs to stay lit up when the effect is active (and lit off when the effect is deactivated).
I mapped it in to the controller editor as "toggle" (not "gate") as I want it activate until I press it again.
What happen instead is that I have to double click the button in order to deactivate the lights and the effect. Basically at the first click the light goes off (but the effect stays on) at the second click the effect switches off.
If I map the same button to "loop roll" for example, it behaves correctly.
It's really frustrating, does anyone know why that happen ?
thanks
When you map it in ScratchLive, cycle through the control settings ('c' on your keyboard) I believe...you'll go through a bunch of options like 'absolute', 'relative signed bit', etc. See what works for you.
Konix
3:44 PM 30 July 2010
You need to go into the Control Editor and change those buttons' on/off values to 64 and 66 instead of the default 0 and 127, then you won't have to hit the buttons twice to turn on/off. Also assign them as absolute controls in Scratch Live, not any of the relative options.
edypiro
4:01 PM 30 July 2010
Konix you are a genius :-)
i'll have a proper play later, but I'm sure it will work.
Do you have your supercool mappings anywhere (for us to download) ?
Thanks for the videos btw.
thanks!
i'll have a proper play later, but I'm sure it will work.
Do you have your supercool mappings anywhere (for us to download) ?
Thanks for the videos btw.
thanks!
DJ SpinArt
4:20 PM 30 July 2010
I think changing it to absolute in SSL will resolve it. I have the default values of 0 and 127 but I am using OhCeeDee's midi pipe template.
edypiro
11:38 PM 30 July 2010
he does!
Konix the magic numbers solved the issue.
Just out of curiosity, where the numbers are coming from?
PS:
@dj spinart : buttons were already on absolute , I previously tried to switch to relative and so on, but nothing, the 2 numbers suggested, solved it.
magic :-)
thanks !
Konix the magic numbers solved the issue.
Just out of curiosity, where the numbers are coming from?
PS:
@dj spinart : buttons were already on absolute , I previously tried to switch to relative and so on, but nothing, the 2 numbers suggested, solved it.
magic :-)
thanks !
DJ SpinArt
7:22 PM 4 August 2010
That's weird unless OhCeeDee's midi pipe changes something on my end. This stuff is all new to me.
Anyway I'm glad you got it working. Konix is the man and has helped me out a bit.
Anyway I'm glad you got it working. Konix is the man and has helped me out a bit.
Sticky K
11:51 AM 14 August 2010
Guys Please help...
Just got an X1 and I have mapped a few buttons in SSL. The problem is I have to press the X1 buttons twice for it to react in SSL...
Anything thing I need to change???
Just got an X1 and I have mapped a few buttons in SSL. The problem is I have to press the X1 buttons twice for it to react in SSL...
Anything thing I need to change???
Jensen Määäm
11:59 AM 14 August 2010
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Guys Please help...Just got an X1 and I have mapped a few buttons in SSL. The problem is I have to press the X1 buttons twice for it to react in SSL...
Anything thing I need to change???
Change the mode from gate to toggle in the software that comes with the Kontrol X1.
Jensen Määäm
12:18 PM 14 August 2010
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I have done that. I still have to press twice in SSL.Hmm, when I change between toggle, gate, trigger, increase,...than the buttons acting different like they supposed to do...did you save the settings? Ot leave the software open in the background, change everything, try everything out and when you are satisfied than save it.
I highly recommend Konix video tutorials about mapping the X1. You'll find 'em here on the forums or on Youtube (he goes by the name Seratotutor).
Konix
1:44 PM 14 August 2010
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You need to go into the Control Editor and change those buttons' on/off values to 64 and 66 instead of the default 0 and 127, then you won't have to hit the buttons twice to turn on/off. Also assign them as absolute controls in Scratch Live, not any of the relative options.
Dj BuddyLove
10:15 PM 14 August 2010
this is a on going issue..
not just with the X1
www.scratchlive.net
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not just with the X1
www.scratchlive.net
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DJ Oasys
11:39 PM 14 August 2010
Just follow konix advice and your x1 double tap problem
will be solve.
will be solve.
niquid
7:46 AM 17 August 2010
hi,
i have a problem with the browse knob on x1. i can only use one knob for scrolling. for example if i assign the left knob, the right knob doesn't respond when i turn it and vice versa. i'ts not a huge thing but it's annoying. i might be wrong but i think that this problem occurred when i installed the software provided in konix' link:
serato.com (don't get me wrong, i am really thankful for this konix!)
help.. anyone?
i have a problem with the browse knob on x1. i can only use one knob for scrolling. for example if i assign the left knob, the right knob doesn't respond when i turn it and vice versa. i'ts not a huge thing but it's annoying. i might be wrong but i think that this problem occurred when i installed the software provided in konix' link:
serato.com (don't get me wrong, i am really thankful for this konix!)
help.. anyone?
Konix
12:50 PM 17 August 2010
Did you assign both scroll knobs the same CC# in the Control Editor? Got to do that.
niquid
8:55 AM 19 August 2010
Quote:
Did you assign both scroll knobs the same CC# in the Control Editor? Got to do that.solved! thank you very much konix.
Jig T
11:22 PM 7 September 2010
Is this possible.... ???
I want to have 2 buttons for each deck assigned to Absolute and Relative modes. I'd like it so when I hit ABS button, the light for button assigned to REL mode automatically turns off, and the ABS button light turns on.
So basically 2 buttons that kinda talk to each other, so only one button is lit up at any time.
Right now I just have it as a toggle, so when I want to change modes, I just both lights on or off.
I want to have 2 buttons for each deck assigned to Absolute and Relative modes. I'd like it so when I hit ABS button, the light for button assigned to REL mode automatically turns off, and the ABS button light turns on.
So basically 2 buttons that kinda talk to each other, so only one button is lit up at any time.
Right now I just have it as a toggle, so when I want to change modes, I just both lights on or off.
JonLangford
10:04 PM 8 September 2010
...one thing i also noticed that i'd like to alter if possible
It appears the SUPER KNOB is on the same MIDI Number as Auto Loop Select...
I've set my X1 up virtually the same as the original text that is printed on the device itself with Buttons 1 & 2 and Knobs 1 & 2 (labelled FX1 & FX2, and Dry/Wet) set up for SUPER KNOB, but when i then configure the Size/Loop infinite Knob (with push to select the Loop Length) it overwrites my SUPER KNOB config from Knobs 1 & 2!
Any ideas? Can i change the MIDI assignment number in Serato?
It appears the SUPER KNOB is on the same MIDI Number as Auto Loop Select...
I've set my X1 up virtually the same as the original text that is printed on the device itself with Buttons 1 & 2 and Knobs 1 & 2 (labelled FX1 & FX2, and Dry/Wet) set up for SUPER KNOB, but when i then configure the Size/Loop infinite Knob (with push to select the Loop Length) it overwrites my SUPER KNOB config from Knobs 1 & 2!
Any ideas? Can i change the MIDI assignment number in Serato?
djmallon
12:24 AM 9 September 2010
Quote:
...one thing i also noticed that i'd like to alter if possibleIt appears the SUPER KNOB is on the same MIDI Number as Auto Loop Select...
I've set my X1 up virtually the same as the original text that is printed on the device itself with Buttons 1 & 2 and Knobs 1 & 2 (labelled FX1 & FX2, and Dry/Wet) set up for SUPER KNOB, but when i then configure the Size/Loop infinite Knob (with push to select the Loop Length) it overwrites my SUPER KNOB config from Knobs 1 & 2!
Any ideas? Can i change the MIDI assignment number in Serato?
You'll have to go into the controller editor and change the assingment numbers if I'm understanding you correctly.
WarpNote
11:50 AM 9 September 2010
Nice Dub, with them you won't bee needing your white vinyl, just send them over to me, I'll be happy to take them off your hands ;-)
DJ Dub Cowboy
3:37 PM 9 September 2010
those White X1s are Pete Tongs, not mine. He may be able to flow a pair of whites for you but they will probably be for Traktor.
Javier drada
1:49 PM 27 September 2010
I use the Denon and one of these for my EFX: www.kentonuk.com
The Knobs are solid and have a perfect size
www.kentonuk.com
The Knobs are solid and have a perfect size
www.kentonuk.com
daneb_hh
8:58 AM 1 October 2010
Hello can somebody help me out with mapping the 2nd page with the traktor X1 Controller? Do i need to have the Traktor Controller Editor open to assign the 2nd (shift) page? Somehow when i assign midi to the 2nd page of the controller (4 xample rotary knob for a Loop Roll) it has an effect on dze 1st page Basic) of the controller as well. How do i separate the to pages from another? Do i need to change midi channels?
Here is what i want to do: I loaded down a preset from the Traktor website that works with version 2.0. I found a link here in the forum. It has the auto loop assigned to the basic page for the rotary knob. For the second page i want the same knob to be assigned to Loop roll. Each time i make changes to the second page it also assigns it to the first page. Understood?
Can anybody help me? Or come up with some nice settings, that i can download?
Here is what i want to do: I loaded down a preset from the Traktor website that works with version 2.0. I found a link here in the forum. It has the auto loop assigned to the basic page for the rotary knob. For the second page i want the same knob to be assigned to Loop roll. Each time i make changes to the second page it also assigns it to the first page. Understood?
Can anybody help me? Or come up with some nice settings, that i can download?
Jensen Määäm
9:46 AM 1 October 2010
Quote:
Hello can somebody help me out with mapping the 2nd page with the traktor X1 Controller? Do i need to have the Traktor Controller Editor open to assign the 2nd (shift) page? Somehow when i assign midi to the 2nd page of the controller (4 xample rotary knob for a Loop Roll) it has an effect on dze 1st page Basic) of the controller as well. How do i separate the to pages from another? Do i need to change midi channels?Here is what i want to do: I loaded down a preset from the Traktor website that works with version 2.0. I found a link here in the forum. It has the auto loop assigned to the basic page for the rotary knob. For the second page i want the same knob to be assigned to Loop roll. Each time i make changes to the second page it also assigns it to the first page. Understood?
Can anybody help me? Or come up with some nice settings, that i can download?
Correct me, if I'm wrong...I did my mapping a while ago, just following the steps of Konix mapping vids...
to map the second layer, the traktor kontroll editer has to be open and if you are on the second layer, you'll see that all the buttons and knobs have different numbers, than the same buttons and knobs on the first layer...assign them, like you did before and it should work.
Sticky K
6:42 PM 4 November 2010
Gents,
I have set my second page to mix in internal mode and have set 2 large push-button knobs to control the pitch. I have set them to:
Type: Control Change
Mode: Absolute
Range: 0 to 127
Step: 1
Now the problem is that the variation is 0.25 change on the pitch everytime I change it. Is there any way to reduce the step value below 1 or maybe another arrangement to get the pitch change to be less than 0.25%?
I have set my second page to mix in internal mode and have set 2 large push-button knobs to control the pitch. I have set them to:
Type: Control Change
Mode: Absolute
Range: 0 to 127
Step: 1
Now the problem is that the variation is 0.25 change on the pitch everytime I change it. Is there any way to reduce the step value below 1 or maybe another arrangement to get the pitch change to be less than 0.25%?
dj mega-b
9:35 PM 4 November 2010
Quote:
Gents,I have set my second page to mix in internal mode and have set 2 large push-button knobs to control the pitch. I have set them to:
Type: Control Change
Mode: Absolute
Range: 0 to 127
Step: 1
Now the problem is that the variation is 0.25 change on the pitch everytime I change it. Is there any way to reduce the step value below 1 or maybe another arrangement to get the pitch change to be less than 0.25%?
asign other knob to fine pitch ;)
Sticky K
12:28 PM 5 November 2010
^^ what do you mean mega-b?
I actually found a way - I changed the pitch range in serato to 8% (from 16%). now my pitch increments are much smaller :) (+- 0.12%)
I actually found a way - I changed the pitch range in serato to 8% (from 16%). now my pitch increments are much smaller :) (+- 0.12%)
Sticky K
7:38 PM 11 November 2010
For VSL - I only have the 4 large knobs set for changing effects and transitions...
dj-dave-d
4:26 AM 19 December 2010
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE GOT THE BUTTONS LIGHTING UP, NO SOFTWARE NEEDED!!
i have found a way of getting the buttons to work normally in "toggle mode"
adjust the value's from the standard 0-127 to 64-68 once you've done that the button will light up and stay on untill turned off like its supposed to.
i hope that makes sense. enjoy ... dave
I HAVE GOT THE BUTTONS LIGHTING UP, NO SOFTWARE NEEDED!!
i have found a way of getting the buttons to work normally in "toggle mode"
adjust the value's from the standard 0-127 to 64-68 once you've done that the button will light up and stay on untill turned off like its supposed to.
i hope that makes sense. enjoy ... dave
Jensen Määäm
10:55 AM 19 December 2010
A big thank you to Dave D! I remeber Konix said something like that about changing the value, but I never tried it out...it's really time to do it now!
dj-dave-d
11:06 AM 19 December 2010
Quote:
A big thank you to Dave D! I remeber Konix said something like that about changing the value, but I never tried it out...it's really time to do it now!cheers dude ;)
JonLangford
12:23 PM 19 December 2010
Is there anyway to get a button to light when pressed but off when you let go? I use the REL & ABS buttons to enable both these functions in Serato and just want a confirmation (for want of a better word) that i have pressed the button.... and i like the blue light :0)
kryptonitednb
2:22 PM 19 December 2010
Quote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I HAVE GOT THE BUTTONS LIGHTING UP, NO SOFTWARE NEEDED!!
i have found a way of getting the buttons to work normally in "toggle mode"
adjust the value's from the standard 0-127 to 64-68 once you've done that the button will light up and stay on untill turned off like its supposed to.
i hope that makes sense. enjoy ... dave
Do they stay lit when not activated (for dark club situations)?
Jensen Määäm
2:26 PM 19 December 2010
You can set the level of how the lights stay, when they are not activated in the software that comes with the X1. Konix shows how to do that in one of his vids.
kryptonitednb
2:46 PM 19 December 2010
But his video shows with midipipe. I want to know if it will work with this new method.
dj-dave-d
2:48 PM 19 December 2010
Quote:
Quote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE GOT THE BUTTONS LIGHTING UP, NO SOFTWARE NEEDED!!
i have found a way of getting the buttons to work normally in "toggle mode"
adjust the value's from the standard 0-127 to 64-68 once you've done that the button will light up and stay on untill turned off like its supposed to.
i hope that makes sense. enjoy ... dave
Do they stay lit when not activated (for dark club situations)?
yeah go into file >prefrances>controller and you can adjust the on and off state brightness of teh buttons.
with regards to midipipe, you dont need it anymore simples
Jensen Määäm
2:57 PM 19 December 2010
Yep, exactly to set the level of the brightness you don't need MidiPipe or anything else.
djmallon
7:00 PM 20 December 2010
I thought midipipe allowed feedback with buttons such as cue, not ones that toggle like FX On or Off.
Without midipipe, the cue buttons wont light up when you depress it.
Without midipipe, the cue buttons wont light up when you depress it.
bill-e
10:29 PM 26 December 2010
i apologize if i missed this, but is there a way to you can don't have all for four fx buttons lit up at the same time...IE fx1 on the left side turns off when fx1 on the right side is pushed???
F.L.O.
7:03 AM 4 January 2011
Quote:
Quote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE GOT THE BUTTONS LIGHTING UP, NO SOFTWARE NEEDED!!
i have found a way of getting the buttons to work normally in "toggle mode"
adjust the value's from the standard 0-127 to 64-68 once you've done that the button will light up and stay on untill turned off like its supposed to.
i hope that makes sense. enjoy ... dave
Do they stay lit when not activated (for dark club situations)?
Hey thanks for that. That tottally helped. but hey, just a question for you. do you know of any site that will explane how to get "Bomes Midi Translator" to tell the X1 how to use the lights on the buttons for trigger modes such as the loop roll. I know the DN-HC1000S i own also has their buttons light up when a cue point is set as well. im wondering
if their is a site or a couple youtube vids that may gimmie the just of it so i may figure it out. Thanks,
jroc453
7:46 PM 5 January 2011
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE GOT THE BUTTONS LIGHTING UP, NO SOFTWARE NEEDED!!
i have found a way of getting the buttons to work normally in "toggle mode"
adjust the value's from the standard 0-127 to 64-68 once you've done that the button will light up and stay on untill turned off like its supposed to.
i hope that makes sense. enjoy ... dave
Do they stay lit when not activated (for dark club situations)?
Hey thanks for that. That tottally helped. but hey, just a question for you. do you know of any site that will explane how to get "Bomes Midi Translator" to tell the X1 how to use the lights on the buttons for trigger modes such as the loop roll. I know the DN-HC1000S i own also has their buttons light up when a cue point is set as well. im wondering
if their is a site or a couple youtube vids that may gimmie the just of it so i may figure it out. Thanks,
Ha Ha... Good luck with that one bro. No one knows how to work Bomes. When I was using a PC I gave up and used it without the lights. Midi Pipe for Mac just works.
dj-freestyle
9:02 PM 5 January 2011
I was about to buy a x1 and now rumors are floating of a midi controller from rane at namm.
jroc453
2:27 AM 6 January 2011
Really??? I will be soooo pissed. I have a X1 and just bought the Dicers...
Jensen Määäm
2:29 AM 6 January 2011
What is wrong with the X1 or the Dicers, guys? Those are some good MIDI controllers!
dj-freestyle
4:11 PM 6 January 2011
The x1 is very cool and if rane does release one wont be much different im sure.
dj mega-b
7:23 PM 6 January 2011
This is the way i use X1 and midi controllers: www.youtube.com view
F.L.O.
4:45 AM 12 January 2011
So i did figue out how to use Bomes Midi Translator and its actually quiet Simple if anyone is interested. It actually take a total of about 30 seconds to get it working such as macs Midi pipe.
maverick meerkat
4:46 PM 14 January 2011
Quote:
So i did figue out how to use Bomes Midi Translator and its actually quiet Simple if anyone is interested. It actually take a total of about 30 seconds to get it working such as macs Midi pipe.please do explain, i would love to do this nice and simple, but can't get my head into it.
VJ Justin Allen
10:33 PM 14 January 2011
Start a separate thread for it to make it easier for everyone.
DJ BIS
12:23 PM 3 February 2011
The X1 is looking nice, but I think I am going to wait for the next great thing... :)
Any news on that Rane Midi controller rumor?
Any news on that Rane Midi controller rumor?
the_black_one
12:56 AM 27 February 2011
quick question... when i hit "SHIFT" on the x1 it does not stay on the second page. as soon as i let it go it jumps back to the first page. I will like to map the second page of the x1. Thanx to anyone that responds
DJ Adzz
11:01 AM 2 March 2011
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Alright, after numerous inquires and requests (seriously, I get like 5-10 messages a week about this on my Youtube), I present...HOW TO GET YOUR X1'S LIGHTS TO LIGHT UP ON A PC
You will need to download and install these two little programs
1) MIDI Yoke... www.midiox.com (direct download www.midiox.com )
***If you are using Vista or Windows 7, you MUST disable UAC before installing MIDI Yoke or it will not work correctly.***
2) MusicLab MIDI Device Connection Center... www.musiclab.com (direct .exe download link... www.musiclab.com)
So download and install these two things, note you will need to reboot after installing MIDI Yoke.
Now some background info. I've stated that you will need to use Bome's MIDI translator on a PC in order to get the X1's LEDs to light up. However, I've never really tested this and just assumed it would work and thought it would be just as easy on Windows PCs as it is with Macs with MIDIPipe. Unfortunately as we all know by now, that's not the case. Windows doesn't work quite the same as OSX does (what a surprise). It's possible with Bome's to light the LEDs on the X1, it's simple really, all you do is select the MIDI Thru option and viola, the LEDs light up. Problem is though, load up Scratch Live and try to map it, it won't work, as Scratch Live cannot "see" the message the X1 is sending as Bome's is the "middle man" and blocking the messages. Cause when you enable MIDI Thru mode in Bome's, any messages the X1 sends just gets sent back to the X1 (i.e to light the LEDs) and not to Scratch Live. This is what you need MIDI Yoke for, to send the messages from the X1 to the virtual MIDI port, than to Scratch Live, but back out the the X1 as well to light the LEDs. Macs/OSX have this functionality already built in and why all you need is MIDIPipe, Windows does not this functionality, at least not by default and why you need MIDI Yoke.
Anyway, instead of using Bome's, we're going to be using the MusicLab MIDI Connection center. It's a lot simpler and easier. Just open the program and you should see this...
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On the first row, select the X1 as the input, and MIDIYoke1 as the output, in the second row, select MIDIYoke1 as the input, and the X1 as the output...
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then press the two Connect buttons in the middle to connect the ports...
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and that's it! Now the lights on the X1 should light up (those that are set to triggers in the X1 Control Editor, remember toggles will already light up regardless). Now just go into Scratch Live and map away (if you haven't already).
Hope this help those with Windows/PCs that want their X1's LEDs to light up.
Video to come soon.
And of course, we wouldn't need to go through all this trouble if Scratch Live just had MIDI output. C'mon Serato and get on it! ;)
I have done all these steps and the LED's do light up when pressed, just the way i wanted, using windows 7 64bit. I have mapped the Kontrol X1 with serato the way i wanted and all works well. BUT!!!! After i connect the first line and second line in MusicLab (The LED's Do Light Up When Pressed) then open serato some of the functions that i have mapped dont work like they should, e.g. when using the browser knob it selects every second song or create not each one like it was b4. Also i have assigned the the Tab Focus to button FX1 on the Kontrol X1 and it does not work, and as soon as i disconnect the first and second line in MusicLab everything works as i have mapped it again. Can anyone help or suggest anything please? Cheers :)
Basskiler
3:52 PM 14 March 2011
Hello guys,
first of all thanks for everything. This tread was kinda useful :D almost got everything working. However i'm encountering one or two issues.
The most annoying thing is the shift button. it works but only if stay pressed. Of course i had a look in the controller editor but it appears that i can not change the settings of this button. As it actually is for the hotcue/midi one's. In the control editor i just have no value above this button at all. However still in the control editor if i press it, it changes the page to the shift mode properly.
Does anyone have an idea about this? I was wondering if there is somewhere a new version of the control editor which may allow me to change the settings of this button...
Cheers guys.
first of all thanks for everything. This tread was kinda useful :D almost got everything working. However i'm encountering one or two issues.
The most annoying thing is the shift button. it works but only if stay pressed. Of course i had a look in the controller editor but it appears that i can not change the settings of this button. As it actually is for the hotcue/midi one's. In the control editor i just have no value above this button at all. However still in the control editor if i press it, it changes the page to the shift mode properly.
Does anyone have an idea about this? I was wondering if there is somewhere a new version of the control editor which may allow me to change the settings of this button...
Cheers guys.
Jensen Määäm
5:04 PM 14 March 2011
^I don't see anything wrong with it. The shift button does exactly what it is supposed to do, bring you from one page to the other, forth and back, so there is only 1 mode needed and it lights up, when you press it down (you are on the second page). The light goes off when you press it again (you are back to page one).
Basskiler
5:36 PM 14 March 2011
yea well maybe i didn't express myself well.
it would have been perfect if working as you described it.
But the point is that when i pressed it down the light doesn't stay lit up once released. So in order to access the second page i need to hold down the shift button otherwise i switch back to the first page.
I do know that i have to change the value of the shift button in the control editor. Here is my issue. I can't set this button as i dunnot have access to it in the control editor....
No value above the button, and no way to change it's setting. But i might do smthg wrong here....
Hope i've been clearer... thanks for your help anyway.
it would have been perfect if working as you described it.
But the point is that when i pressed it down the light doesn't stay lit up once released. So in order to access the second page i need to hold down the shift button otherwise i switch back to the first page.
I do know that i have to change the value of the shift button in the control editor. Here is my issue. I can't set this button as i dunnot have access to it in the control editor....
No value above the button, and no way to change it's setting. But i might do smthg wrong here....
Hope i've been clearer... thanks for your help anyway.
DJ Guiayo
5:41 PM 14 March 2011
Quote:
yea well maybe i didn't express myself well.it would have been perfect if working as you described it.
But the point is that when i pressed it down the light doesn't stay lit up once released. So in order to access the second page i need to hold down the shift button otherwise i switch back to the first page.
I do know that i have to change the value of the shift button in the control editor. Here is my issue. I can't set this button as i dunnot have access to it in the control editor....
No value above the button, and no way to change it's setting. But i might do smthg wrong here....
Hope i've been clearer... thanks for your help anyway.
Did you work off of a clean template? I was running into issues trying to start from a clean template. I found it easier to start with the Serato Pre-Map Template and only change the buttons that I needed. This fixed the 'Browse' and 'Shift' issue for me.
DJ Guiayo
5:49 PM 14 March 2011
hhmmm... I havent mapped my Kontrol X1 in a while. I will take a look at my mapping when in get home.
muz1903
6:06 PM 14 March 2011
In the control editor software select the pages tab on the right - at the bottom you can set up the shift mode to either gate or toggle
Jensen Määäm
7:01 PM 14 March 2011
Quote:
In the control editor software select the pages tab on the right - at the bottom you can set up the shift mode to either gate or toggleHa, you beat me to it.
In general you can select a mode for every button and starting from scratch is not bad. I did it. I watched Konix vids (look up Seratotutor on youtube), he made a couple of vids about how to MIDI mapp your X1, after that you'll be able to mapp it as you want to have it.
Basskiler
10:51 PM 14 March 2011
yea i did watch those vid for sure... i got everything working just fine. only this shift button was annoying. i guess i've been lazy not clicking on the page tab...
sorry...... and thank u for ur help...
sorry...... and thank u for ur help...
the_black_one
9:12 PM 17 March 2011
so now you just have to find a way to paint it white like all your other gear and toss that korg in the trash!
Joshua Carl
9:18 PM 17 March 2011
oh...already working on that.
matter o fact I was working on that BEFORE I bought the damn thing.
www.12inchskinz.com
funny though.
midi progression:
Nanopad> loved it, but limited to pads.
NanoKontrol> too busy, easy to get lost in its controls.
Dicer> much like the nanopad, but with 10x better placement on the 12z.
X1...we'll see what happens.
matter o fact I was working on that BEFORE I bought the damn thing.
www.12inchskinz.com
funny though.
midi progression:
Nanopad> loved it, but limited to pads.
NanoKontrol> too busy, easy to get lost in its controls.
Dicer> much like the nanopad, but with 10x better placement on the 12z.
X1...we'll see what happens.
the_black_one
9:24 PM 17 March 2011
carl.... i found myself placing it in between mixer and Right TT when the majority of the music i was playing was DANCE oriented. When im playing majority HIp Hop i place it to the right of the right TT.
BTW.. buy the caring case it's like 40 bucks. Well worth it, protects your X1 and also raises it to your mixer and turntable height level
BTW.. buy the caring case it's like 40 bucks. Well worth it, protects your X1 and also raises it to your mixer and turntable height level
VJ Justin Allen
9:58 PM 17 March 2011
I have had one since the first week and never used the sample bank until last week. I put 6 samples and then placed them on the second page of the X1 (press the shift key). I love the fact that all I have to do is toggle the shift key and press on of the buttons and not have to open up the sample window.
I used the top half for the samples and the rotary knobs all mapped to the volume so I can control each one of them without moving my hand much.
I used the top half for the samples and the rotary knobs all mapped to the volume so I can control each one of them without moving my hand much.
Joshua Carl
10:17 PM 17 March 2011
Just in messing with this.
is theres a preffered load pattern to make it not so tempermental?
Heres what Ive seen thus far.
*You have to open the control editor everytime u plug it in to adjust the lighting.
*you have to quit and restart a new instance of midipipe everytime you plug it in
(Or else the keys wont light)
Ive saved my setting in every possible place.
is theres a preffered load pattern to make it not so tempermental?
Heres what Ive seen thus far.
*You have to open the control editor everytime u plug it in to adjust the lighting.
*you have to quit and restart a new instance of midipipe everytime you plug it in
(Or else the keys wont light)
Ive saved my setting in every possible place.
VJ Justin Allen
11:00 PM 17 March 2011
The control editor has a preference under preferences (I think, not near my system) that allows it to run every time without starting up or having to be opened.
But midipipe does have to be open.
But midipipe does have to be open.
Mr. Goodkat
11:05 PM 17 March 2011
after about 4 months of use, i really like mine. it took about 2 hrs to get things right, but its a rock solid controller, really worth the 200$.
one question, that i know is somewhere in here:
if you assign the pitch to a knob, how do you get it to be the smallest percentage of +- change?
one question, that i know is somewhere in here:
if you assign the pitch to a knob, how do you get it to be the smallest percentage of +- change?
Joshua Carl
11:53 PM 17 March 2011
or, how can you make the channels that load the track work in both scenes?
becuase they dont show up in the controller editor on either page?
They are control surfaces 18 & 19.
and seeing how u cant change them in the editor.
or dual assign them in the ssl midi function...
you can scroll your library in scene two, but not use the depress function of the knob
to do it.
becuase they dont show up in the controller editor on either page?
They are control surfaces 18 & 19.
and seeing how u cant change them in the editor.
or dual assign them in the ssl midi function...
you can scroll your library in scene two, but not use the depress function of the knob
to do it.
VJ Justin Allen
12:01 AM 18 March 2011
Assign the same number for both of them. Look at the controller numbers for the one you know works and just use the same numbers for the other ones.
On the knobs that both turn and push Look under the action tab on the right and select the push page.
This what you were looking for?
On the knobs that both turn and push Look under the action tab on the right and select the push page.
This what you were looking for?
Joshua Carl
1:30 AM 18 March 2011
yeah, and no.
for any other action that would work.
but for 18 & 19 CC there is no representation in the editor.
I guess when its on scene 2 those buttons would different cc #s,
but u cant un-asign the load track from scene 1...which is essentiall what would
happen if u tried to assign the same action in SSL.
the other thing i can quite figure out.
toggle.
I understand how it works.
but I assign a toggle option to a button.
click it once> light comes on, effect engages. yay!
click it again, effect disengages, light stays on.
click it again, effect engages, light comes on.
basically taking 2 taps....which throughs the whole toggle thing off.
am i missing something? does it need to change from cc to start or something?
for any other action that would work.
but for 18 & 19 CC there is no representation in the editor.
I guess when its on scene 2 those buttons would different cc #s,
but u cant un-asign the load track from scene 1...which is essentiall what would
happen if u tried to assign the same action in SSL.
the other thing i can quite figure out.
toggle.
I understand how it works.
but I assign a toggle option to a button.
click it once> light comes on, effect engages. yay!
click it again, effect disengages, light stays on.
click it again, effect engages, light comes on.
basically taking 2 taps....which throughs the whole toggle thing off.
am i missing something? does it need to change from cc to start or something?
VJ Justin Allen
1:32 AM 18 March 2011
It's a combination between the toggle and the cc...keep trying different combinations. Sorry I don't have it in front of me right now.
Joshua Carl
1:49 AM 18 March 2011
Yeah, I think i tried every one.
up down, and all the different modes + toggle.
its so odd, every click makes a control change, but every other click changes the light.
up down, and all the different modes + toggle.
its so odd, every click makes a control change, but every other click changes the light.
Joshua Carl
5:18 PM 26 March 2011
heres some strange behavior Im experiencing.
and I assume its from the Midipipe software, which in all reality Im probably gonna stop using.
if I start firing away on surfaces they start hitting the wrong mapped command.
example..if Im stuttering a cue point, it will slip in another midi command.
fortunately in most cases its been just changing my transitions
but one I had last night effd me a lil bit.
my knob that changes the parameters of my txt changed to cue point 1
so every time i turned the knob it fires my cue-point.
I assume its gotta be midi pipe.
and I assume its from the Midipipe software, which in all reality Im probably gonna stop using.
if I start firing away on surfaces they start hitting the wrong mapped command.
example..if Im stuttering a cue point, it will slip in another midi command.
fortunately in most cases its been just changing my transitions
but one I had last night effd me a lil bit.
my knob that changes the parameters of my txt changed to cue point 1
so every time i turned the knob it fires my cue-point.
I assume its gotta be midi pipe.
Joshua Carl
4:30 PM 27 March 2011
i dont know if i was midipipe that caused it.
I cant imagine how it happens.
but somehow in the NI Control Editor it changed the signal from 32 to 1
(which is the same as the 1st knob)
I cant imagine how it happens.
but somehow in the NI Control Editor it changed the signal from 32 to 1
(which is the same as the 1st knob)
Mighty Maxx
2:29 AM 28 March 2011
Quote:
The control editor has a preference under preferences (I think, not near my system) that allows it to run every time without starting up or having to be opened.But midipipe does have to be open.
Maybe I am missing something, but I could not find this option under preferences. I re-read the X1 manual and it did mention something about no need to open it for Midi Mode, as there was a service that ran in the background.
Currently these are the steps I follow, is there no need to open the controller?
Power up MBP>Open X1 Controller>Close Controller>Open Midi Pipe (leave open)>Open Serato.
I thought I saw somewhere on one of the threads that this was the sequence you needed to follow.
Mighty Maxx
3:08 PM 3 April 2011
^^Update: I HAVE to open the X1 Controller, or my MBP does not create the connection to the device. I tried it with just opening Midi Pipe and nothing. If there is a way to have it auto start in preferences, please share.
JonLangford
3:39 PM 3 April 2011
i used to think this... but open MIDI Pipe, plug in your X1, press Shift + Hot Cue to enable MIDI then open SSL... no need to use X1 Controller Editor
Joshua Carl
11:08 PM 3 April 2011
u can go into the control editor, and theres a check box for "start in midi mode"
enable that, save that profile.
never have to do it again
enable that, save that profile.
never have to do it again
Mighty Maxx
12:47 AM 4 April 2011
Quote:
u can go into the control editor, and theres a check box for "start in midi mode"enable that, save that profile.
never have to do it again
Thank you I will try that. Using the Shift+Hot Cue also worked.
VJ Justin Allen
1:27 AM 4 April 2011
That's what I was trying to say earlier...just forgot the exact steps. Thanks Joshua Carl :)
DJ BIS
12:50 PM 7 April 2011
Hey guys, just got the X1, SSL 2.2 and all drivers and firmware updated. I'm ready for war (or maybe not)! :0)
Right off the bat I noticed that SSL is not seeing the X1 on the list of MIDI devices, fine, though I have a few questions some of which have been brushed about throughout this long thread, but just so that I can keep everything in one place without quoting every other post, can you guys confirm some of these points below:
• In order for the X1 to work with SSL you must create AND save MIDI mappings ON SLL. NI's Editor is only going to control the lighting and response to touch of the buttons by way of telling each button whether to act as a gate, etc. The actual MIDI mapping is done in SSL though?
• There is a specific procedure that has to be followed in order for the X1 to be recognized with all of its previous customized settings in SSL, but I am confused as to what this procedure is. Like, plug hardware in first, then start NI's editor, then SSL? (I am on WINDWOS XP).
• If in the middle of the gig I disconnect the X1 and plug it back in, I am not going to be able to use it again unless I restart SSL?
Those are some of the basic burning questions I have right now. I appreciate any advice you can provide!
Right off the bat I noticed that SSL is not seeing the X1 on the list of MIDI devices, fine, though I have a few questions some of which have been brushed about throughout this long thread, but just so that I can keep everything in one place without quoting every other post, can you guys confirm some of these points below:
• In order for the X1 to work with SSL you must create AND save MIDI mappings ON SLL. NI's Editor is only going to control the lighting and response to touch of the buttons by way of telling each button whether to act as a gate, etc. The actual MIDI mapping is done in SSL though?
• There is a specific procedure that has to be followed in order for the X1 to be recognized with all of its previous customized settings in SSL, but I am confused as to what this procedure is. Like, plug hardware in first, then start NI's editor, then SSL? (I am on WINDWOS XP).
• If in the middle of the gig I disconnect the X1 and plug it back in, I am not going to be able to use it again unless I restart SSL?
Those are some of the basic burning questions I have right now. I appreciate any advice you can provide!
Jensen Määäm
1:17 PM 7 April 2011
^If I remember right, there is a mapping in the X1 software for the 1.9.2 SSL or something (that was before SSL had SFX inbuilt), you can choose that or you mapp everything yourself. To do this you have to click the MIDI button in SSL and assign every knob/button...if everything is done, there is no need to open up the software for the X1 again, to use the X1. It's just plugging the X1 in, open SSL and it works. My advice watch the vids Konix made about MIDI mapping an X1, put it Seratotutor on youtube and watch them, after that you will be able to do it yourself.
Joshua Carl
1:59 PM 7 April 2011
yeah.
def not the case.
you go into the control editor and check "always start in midi mode"
and create a new template for SSL.
make sure you save that.
and just like any 3rd party midi controller you need a profile for it in SSL as well.
serato midi has an auto save feature.
so just make a new file for the X1 (click save as in the midi panel..name it x1)
then all your changes will save to it.
def not the case.
you go into the control editor and check "always start in midi mode"
and create a new template for SSL.
make sure you save that.
and just like any 3rd party midi controller you need a profile for it in SSL as well.
serato midi has an auto save feature.
so just make a new file for the X1 (click save as in the midi panel..name it x1)
then all your changes will save to it.
VJ Justin Allen
7:28 PM 7 April 2011
There is a ScratchLive midi file on the NI disc somewhere...but I quickly created my own version :)
Just load that file into scratchlive via the midi load command.
Just load that file into scratchlive via the midi load command.
SUBSTANCE
1:27 AM 11 April 2011
Quote:
u can go into the control editor, and theres a check box for "start in midi mode"enable that, save that profile.
never have to do it again
thaaaaank you.
I'd set up everything else but with plug & play functionality, I'll take my X1 to some gigs I might not have bothered with.
dj-dave-d
2:21 AM 21 April 2011
is anyone using an x1 in 64 bit mode on their mac? just got my new mac and the x1 wont work in 64 bit mode. you plug it in, get the light show then thats it dead..... won't recognise it whatsoever.
any ideas, cheers dave
any ideas, cheers dave
Joshua Carl
2:31 AM 21 April 2011
its not really a plug and play.
you have to install all the software and drives.... see Konnix's video
you have to install all the software and drives.... see Konnix's video
dj-dave-d
3:46 PM 21 April 2011
oh yeah sorry i forgot to say i had the drivers and control editor installed also. i found the problem it wont work in 64 bit.
Joshua Carl
5:40 PM 21 April 2011
isnt 64bit mode the default mode for the mac book pros?
(I thought you had to do a special boot-routine to get it to run in 32?)
no sarcasm there..I honestly dont know. Im only 6months on the mac.
(I thought you had to do a special boot-routine to get it to run in 32?)
no sarcasm there..I honestly dont know. Im only 6months on the mac.
Joshua Carl
7:10 PM 21 April 2011
I boot in the default (I dont even think i know how to boot in 32)and it works like gang busters, I have the Fall 2010 17mbp i7
all praise for my success with the x1 is due to konnix's tutorials.
I stopped using the 3rd party midi software all together though.
all praise for my success with the x1 is due to konnix's tutorials.
I stopped using the 3rd party midi software all together though.
DJ Guiayo
7:18 PM 21 April 2011
Quote:
I boot in the default (I dont even think i know how to boot in 32)and it works like gang busters, I have the Fall 2010 17mbp i7all praise for my success with the x1 is due to konnix's tutorials.
I stopped using the 3rd party midi software all together though.
I believe its the Early 2011 models that boot into 64 bit. The ones with thunderbolt...
Joshua Carl
7:29 PM 21 April 2011
The models that dropped in February, are the ones with thunderbolt
the ones that dropped in Fall 2010 are the i-series with 3x USB/MiniDisplayport.
(thats what I have)
the ones that dropped in Fall 2010 are the i-series with 3x USB/MiniDisplayport.
(thats what I have)
Funkytownstopsix
6:43 PM 22 April 2011
Ok have not seen Konnix's vids shoot me a link please... I got mine to light up on certin buttons such as play but want them to light when I press cue and not stay on is that possible? If I am understanding correctly Joshaua Carl your saying u don't need midi pipe or any other software to be running. I use midi pipe.... One other thing I would like to use buttons as tempo up and down by pressing button and holding it progress up or down,,,, I can't achive that.. I can though set the vaules so when I press the button it changes to let's say 10 up or 10 down.
Other than that I did a mix with my x-1 the other day and I must say this is the best midi controller bar none. I can do everything I want for now and can do more I have not made it to my shift button just been messing around with the lights.
Other than that I did a mix with my x-1 the other day and I must say this is the best midi controller bar none. I can do everything I want for now and can do more I have not made it to my shift button just been messing around with the lights.
Jensen Määäm
6:55 PM 22 April 2011
type in Seratotutor on youtube and boom...you'll a ton of vids Konix made about every problem/difficulty there is with Serato
Joshua Carl
10:24 PM 22 April 2011
you DO need midi pipe if you want the lights to REACT to your touch.
But after a month of using it, and I learned my presets..
its kinda a waste for me.
I put the lights on to about 70% brightness, and leave it there.
I dont need to see the uttons lighting up under my fingers.
and I dont really toggle anything
But after a month of using it, and I learned my presets..
its kinda a waste for me.
I put the lights on to about 70% brightness, and leave it there.
I dont need to see the uttons lighting up under my fingers.
and I dont really toggle anything
Funkytownstopsix
11:17 PM 22 April 2011
Thanks JC... I found out why my lights were not working if I do any editing in the controller I have to go back and add midi in and out in back into midi pipe... so it works like it should when I first boot but any changes it will b jacked...
now the only thing I want to be able to do is control the pitch slider with buttons instead of knobs...If I can do that I am set for life but there seems to be no way that i can see.
FYI i got use to not having the lights as well but man if I see someone else do it I want to too... : ) Yet and still this controller makes me so mobile when I really don't feel like taking all my shit...
now the only thing I want to be able to do is control the pitch slider with buttons instead of knobs...If I can do that I am set for life but there seems to be no way that i can see.
FYI i got use to not having the lights as well but man if I see someone else do it I want to too... : ) Yet and still this controller makes me so mobile when I really don't feel like taking all my shit...
Funkytownstopsix
7:00 PM 23 April 2011
used x-1 last night get up this morning to mess around and now it will not scroll crates both knobs scroll up or down but the left one will not scroll my library crates.... anyone had this issue or can u tell me how to fix it.
VJ Justin Allen
8:19 PM 23 April 2011
It all has to do with either saving your midi file in serato or not loading the saved file. Look at both of those issues and you should solve your problem.
Joshua Carl
11:58 PM 23 April 2011
yup.
exactly.
rememeber serato auto saves ur midi file.
I wiped em all out, then started from scratch in ssl, then in the NI conrtol editor.
havent messed with me since
exactly.
rememeber serato auto saves ur midi file.
I wiped em all out, then started from scratch in ssl, then in the NI conrtol editor.
havent messed with me since
Funkytownstopsix
12:02 AM 24 April 2011
hummmm I tried deleting everything and come up with the same out com.... no library scroll..... I will try again... my other problem is that I am not in town... left my cd with serial number on it so can't log into native to get the new xml they have....
Funkytownstopsix
10:42 PM 25 April 2011
Quote:
I created a new template and built it myself. No templateI have tried everything deleted everything and started over with no luck... Understand this what I can do is scroll if I click in library then I can scroll up and down with both buttons then if I click on song list I get the same thing.
The vaules for left button browse and right button for turn are the same
Control Change
channel 1
number 16
Relative
step 1
so my question is where do u change it to choose left browse... I am assuming in the scratch xml somewhere.... maybe it's not working because I am using 2.2
Joshua Carl
12:06 AM 26 April 2011
Im a little lost...
you mean so you can scroll your crates, and then scroll you tracks ?
(if thats what you mean)
theres a button you need to map in the SSL Midi screen called Tab Focus.
That will switch the cursor from the Crates to Prepare to Library.
I personally mapped my two top knobs to the same control surface to scroll.
this prevents me from loading a track in the wrong player.
you mean so you can scroll your crates, and then scroll you tracks ?
(if thats what you mean)
theres a button you need to map in the SSL Midi screen called Tab Focus.
That will switch the cursor from the Crates to Prepare to Library.
I personally mapped my two top knobs to the same control surface to scroll.
this prevents me from loading a track in the wrong player.
Funkytownstopsix
2:39 AM 26 April 2011
yes persay If i click in library then both knobs scroll the library if I click in songs then it will scroll that... before it left knob would be library the other songs. I will try that tab foucs... and see what happens.... Thanks.... Mr. Carl
Joshua Carl
2:52 AM 26 April 2011
yeah... tab focus is exactly what u want.
I assigned a button to that.
its also good if u are somewhere else in the GUI, or in another software (IE Mix Emergency) it will bring you right back to crates/Library
I assigned a button to that.
its also good if u are somewhere else in the GUI, or in another software (IE Mix Emergency) it will bring you right back to crates/Library
Funkytownstopsix
3:15 AM 26 April 2011
thanks JC..... I tried to assign it to the knob it jacked up all kinds of crap... I then mapped it to a button that works for sure... Sucks that it was working just like my 57 for a while then boom no more. Now how did u map the knobs to the same control that sounds like something that makes great sense...
Just and FYI ,,,I played audio and the response time is on point but video a little lag.,,
Just and FYI ,,,I played audio and the response time is on point but video a little lag.,,
Joshua Carl
4:00 AM 26 April 2011
go into the NI control editor
those two knobs are control surfaces 31 & 32 or something,
make them the same exact number....dont matter which.
make sure u save it
those two knobs are control surfaces 31 & 32 or something,
make them the same exact number....dont matter which.
make sure u save it
Jensen Määäm
6:35 AM 26 April 2011
Funkytownstopsix, did you watch the vids on youtube about MIDI mapping/mapping an X1, Konix made? If not, do it! After watching those I was able to do the mapping of my X1.
Funkytownstopsix
11:38 AM 26 April 2011
Did I yes I did...!!!! I can map just about any midi but this is an anomaly my X1 worked just as it was suppose to include lights I set toggles for buttons ect ect. Then all of a sudden I could not scroll library...
Jensen Määäm
12:36 PM 26 April 2011
Then start from scratch again, you can do it multiple times, save it and you are good to go.
Funkytownstopsix
2:15 PM 26 April 2011
What makes you think I didn't!!!!! ? I did and it still will not work as it did before... Seven times I deleted everything to include the control editor, all xml and ncc files along with Serato... Everything works except the left scroll knob to library it behave exactly like the right knob scroll.... Other than that EVERYTHING works and I do mean everything works it takes less than 2 min's to reprogram everything and that includes lights... and I change how the lights & buttons behave in Serato not the control editor for the most part.
Joshua Carl gave me the fix not exactly what I wanted but it fixes my issue so it's all good thanks again JC. I will revisit this later to see if I can fix it but as for now I am done, wasted to much time on this one.
Joshua Carl gave me the fix not exactly what I wanted but it fixes my issue so it's all good thanks again JC. I will revisit this later to see if I can fix it but as for now I am done, wasted to much time on this one.
Jensen Määäm
2:33 PM 26 April 2011
^Don't get offended. I mapped my X1 like a year ago, I lost the mapping a little later too. I mapped it again, without deleting xml files or something. I just saved it in the control editor. It took me a couple of days and watching Konix vids like a hundred times + try and error, because not everything is mentioned in the vids. For the knobs, there are different modes, like the toggle, gate and all those for the buttons. I scroll through my crates and my songs with 2 knobs (left and right) they work the same way, I go from the crate list to the song list just by pushing one of those knobs. Then I'm in my song list, I can scroll through it and when I push the knob, I load the song. Both buttons work the same way, to get back into the crate list I have to push a button.
Funkytownstopsix
3:28 PM 26 April 2011
Not offended more so frustrated!!!!! U are correct that everything is not mentioned in the video as a matter fact there some things that can be done differently. Honestly I had my X-1 programmed like in 10 min after I got it and it was working perfectly,, it was like being on my 57 of course with out the fader.. I had problems with the lights until I figured that any changes made in the controller you had to go back to midi pipe and reload the in and out. ...
As far as how you have yours set up mines was different my left knob would scroll library the right knob songs.. if song is highlighted when right button is pressed it loads song on right side. That is no longer the case. So offend not!!!! but frustrated yes!!!! what version are you using of SSL? I am using 2.2 but I did had other versions installed (DELETED THEM ALL) at the time and the shortcut could have been pointing to lets say 1.9 do you think that is the issue.
FYI these buttons are really controlled by the xml in serato as I see it...Now Jensen if you can tell me how to program that knob manually in the xml then I would be very offended and I do mean very offended, yet grateful. : )
I recalibrated my knobs too now that I think of it and I did turn that one... yet if you delete and start from scracth that would not be an issue or would it. Hummmmm
As far as how you have yours set up mines was different my left knob would scroll library the right knob songs.. if song is highlighted when right button is pressed it loads song on right side. That is no longer the case. So offend not!!!! but frustrated yes!!!! what version are you using of SSL? I am using 2.2 but I did had other versions installed (DELETED THEM ALL) at the time and the shortcut could have been pointing to lets say 1.9 do you think that is the issue.
FYI these buttons are really controlled by the xml in serato as I see it...Now Jensen if you can tell me how to program that knob manually in the xml then I would be very offended and I do mean very offended, yet grateful. : )
I recalibrated my knobs too now that I think of it and I did turn that one... yet if you delete and start from scracth that would not be an issue or would it. Hummmmm
Jensen Määäm
3:44 PM 26 April 2011
I am using the latest release of SSL.
I never touched an xml file, all I do is mapping/remapping my X1 and save it in the contoller editor software. I have no further knowledge on that stuff, if something is not working like I want it to, I would have to go back and mapp it again. All I know I can do it that way a million times. I lost a mapping in the past (it wasn't working like it was before). I didn't know why, just did it again. Personally I find it easier to use just one knob for all the crate & song list scolling and loading the songs. As you are experiencing problem, try out different ways. Make different mappings and see how it works.
I never touched an xml file, all I do is mapping/remapping my X1 and save it in the contoller editor software. I have no further knowledge on that stuff, if something is not working like I want it to, I would have to go back and mapp it again. All I know I can do it that way a million times. I lost a mapping in the past (it wasn't working like it was before). I didn't know why, just did it again. Personally I find it easier to use just one knob for all the crate & song list scolling and loading the songs. As you are experiencing problem, try out different ways. Make different mappings and see how it works.
Jensen Määäm
3:47 PM 26 April 2011
I remember there are not only modes like toggle, gate and all that stuff for buttons, there is absolute, relative and all that too. You got that on your radar, am I right?
Funkytownstopsix
3:50 PM 26 April 2011
yeah... im on all of that... tried all kinds of shit.. funk it....
Joshua Carl
9:59 PM 30 April 2011
SO, LAST NIGHT....
i set up gear differently, i had an opener,
so, i had opened SSL, built a lil prepare box set and waited to swap out.
threw on a 12" and started plugging everything in....
I had seen it mentioned that there IS a order to do things for the x-1 work properly.
I guess i was doing it by default all this time.
so, in short.
be sure to plug in the X1 BEFORE you launch any programs...including ssl/vsl/ME
so i was trying everything.
finally i threw a record on again and restarted SSL. voila. no problems.
after the night. i re-checked it a few times to make sure.
lesson learned.
i set up gear differently, i had an opener,
so, i had opened SSL, built a lil prepare box set and waited to swap out.
threw on a 12" and started plugging everything in....
I had seen it mentioned that there IS a order to do things for the x-1 work properly.
I guess i was doing it by default all this time.
so, in short.
be sure to plug in the X1 BEFORE you launch any programs...including ssl/vsl/ME
so i was trying everything.
finally i threw a record on again and restarted SSL. voila. no problems.
after the night. i re-checked it a few times to make sure.
lesson learned.
Mr. Goodkat
9:39 PM 1 May 2011
Quote:
SO, LAST NIGHT....i set up gear differently, i had an opener,
so, i had opened SSL, built a lil prepare box set and waited to swap out.
threw on a 12" and started plugging everything in....
I had seen it mentioned that there IS a order to do things for the x-1 work properly.
I guess i was doing it by default all this time.
so, in short.
be sure to plug in the X1 BEFORE you launch any programs...including ssl/vsl/ME
so i was trying everything.
finally i threw a record on again and restarted SSL. voila. no problems.
after the night. i re-checked it a few times to make sure.
lesson learned.
the first few times it did that too me. but recently even if the ssl is open(without usb connected to the box) and i plug in later it still works. dont really know why
Funkytownstopsix
1:40 PM 12 July 2011
I love my X1.... by far the best midi controller I have ever owened. It is set up for Serato and Mix Emergency. Set up was rather easy for me but others have had issues. There is a little work into getthing it to light up, honestly I don't even turn them on anymore. I feel that I can leave my turntables and not worrie about not having them. I have done at least 20 wedding gigs with just my x1 and 57 never toughing my laptop once. So for me IT IS THE BEST... I only wish they made two models so you can have the controller turned the best for your set up. Like its up and down now I would like a modle that was side to side or left to right so it would fit my set up better when using turntables or cdj's that is.
Funkytownstopsix
1:41 PM 12 July 2011
oh I said I never touched my laptop but I forgot to say I dont even touch my 57 either.
djpuma_gemini
2:39 PM 12 July 2011
I have the dicers and the korg nano kontrol.
I am getting tired of the dicers, they don't do much.
The korg I have mapped to for cues 1-5 and mix emergency effects and transitions.
Does the x1 controls, cues, loops, and mix emergency effects, transitions and anything else I can't think of.
I am getting tired of the dicers, they don't do much.
The korg I have mapped to for cues 1-5 and mix emergency effects and transitions.
Does the x1 controls, cues, loops, and mix emergency effects, transitions and anything else I can't think of.
Funkytownstopsix
3:45 PM 12 July 2011
Whatever you want to do you can trust me it is like that,, I haven't been back to their site but they had a premade template to aid u but on the real I changed most of that stuff and made it more the way I wanted it to be. I have sound fx mapped I have trasistions mapped in ME and the same with sound. I can do a whole show with my X-1 as if I was using my laptop or 57 and I love my 57 but it's way more eaiser using the X-1. Loops cues everthing can be controlled with the x-1.
... I have the nano and the dicers, they are alright but the x-1 is the shit. If the dicers were more programble I would work with them just to save some money but after getting my x-1 i will never go back. It's a good product straight up. Go out on youtube and look up diffrent stuff on x-1... Like i said getting your lights too work will be the hardest thing you had to do and on the real it was not that hard since you have the nano you undestand how to set midi's up...
... I have the nano and the dicers, they are alright but the x-1 is the shit. If the dicers were more programble I would work with them just to save some money but after getting my x-1 i will never go back. It's a good product straight up. Go out on youtube and look up diffrent stuff on x-1... Like i said getting your lights too work will be the hardest thing you had to do and on the real it was not that hard since you have the nano you undestand how to set midi's up...
djpuma_gemini
3:59 PM 12 July 2011
I want the lights to stay on and go off when I press them (like the dicers) the nano kontrol only goes on when pressed.
I don't like the 57 buttons cause it's dark in a club and I've hit the cue 3 buttom many times on left deck when trying to hit the cue 1 button on right deck, no one wants to hear the song again.
I hate that.
I don't like the 57 buttons cause it's dark in a club and I've hit the cue 3 buttom many times on left deck when trying to hit the cue 1 button on right deck, no one wants to hear the song again.
I hate that.
Funkytownstopsix
4:05 PM 12 July 2011
the lights require a small program to make them light running in the background. :) it was a big deal at first for me to be sure I had my lights working... they do but I hardly use them since I know the buttons. Lights do help casuse sometimes I leave the echo on if I had my lights on I would know I did... :) Buy it ,,,,,if you don't like it take it back....But I am sure you will keep it.
Funkytownstopsix
4:07 PM 12 July 2011
True on the 57 it's a party killer almost everytime I do it... :)
SUBSTANCE
8:01 PM 31 July 2011
I use my X1 all the time, but you still gotta touch the laptop to search for songs.
Jensen Määäm
8:35 PM 31 July 2011
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I use my X1 all the time, but you still gotta touch the laptop to search for songs.Yep, there is no way around if you have to type in something, but you get pretty far with that scrolling through your crates and tracks on the X1.
djgrits7
7:05 PM 1 August 2011
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Konix, I look forward to your thoughts! Here are a few questions:1) When you program it do you still get the light feedback?
2) does it have another midi page (page 2)
3) do the lights work on page 2 (if it exists)
4) can you tell what midi page you are on easily (a light perhaps)
1) Unfortunately no, not until Scratch Live supports MIDI output feedback
2) Yes, two pages
3) No, see 1
4) Yes, the Hotcue button is the only one that lights up (green), signifying the X1 is in MIDI mode, pressing the Shift button on the X1 switches to the second page, and will light up white.
Overall though, it's still a great controller, definitely prefer it over the Denon HC1000. I prefer the vertical orientation of the X1 versus the horizontal orientation of the HC1000. And with effects coming in SSL 2.0, you're going to need a lot of knobs, which the Denon lacks. The X1 is solid yet lightweight. If you've ever played with NI's Maschine, the X1 is on par build-quality wise with it. If only it the LEDs light up, it would be perfect as it looks very nice when lit-up. But alas, the LEDs only work if you use Traktor.
konix, do u know how to mapp the browsers on the 57 with scroll crates and scroll songs, left and right knobs respectively??
Funkytownstopsix
7:16 PM 1 August 2011
The 57 is already set up for that left scrolls crates and right the songs push left button... or do you mean something else... if you mean on the X-1 then that's a diffrent story either way easy to do.
Mr. Goodkat
7:46 PM 1 August 2011
x1 is still the only midi controller ive really liked yet. its easier how i have it set up with serato than with traktor.
trnsprtr
6:18 PM 5 August 2011
Sorry if this has been answered before, but I couldn't find anything on it. I'm new to midi controllers, is there any way to re-map functions? I'm using Konix's mapping, and I want to change a few. Thanks in advance.
the_black_one
6:21 PM 5 August 2011
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Sorry if this has been answered before, but I couldn't find anything on it. I'm new to midi controllers, is there any way to re-map functions? I'm using Konix's mapping, and I want to change a few. Thanks in advance.sure can
Funkytownstopsix
6:23 PM 5 August 2011
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Sorry if this has been answered before, but I couldn't find anything on it. I'm new to midi controllers, is there any way to re-map functions? I'm using Konix's mapping, and I want to change a few. Thanks in advance.every button and knob.... not going to lie though the templeate helps a lot.
Jensen Määäm
6:47 PM 5 August 2011
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Sorry if this has been answered before, but I couldn't find anything on it. I'm new to midi controllers, is there any way to re-map functions? I'm using Konix's mapping, and I want to change a few. Thanks in advance.If you use Konix mapping, what about watching his vids on youtube, where he explains how to mapp it?
He made several vids, here's one: www.youtube.com view
Like others said, you can mapp every button and every knob, the way you want it
trnsprtr
2:21 AM 9 August 2011
Thanks for the help guys. I was just worried about screwing something up if I changed anything. For some reason his mappings aren't working exactly the way he set them for me (setting cue points, etc...). I think the first thing I'm gonna do is try to redownload and import his template. Thanks again.
Konix
3:41 AM 9 August 2011
For the cue points to set and trigger with the same button(s), you need to check the "enable hot cues" option in the setup menu.
spirez
11:55 AM 15 August 2011
Does the shift button give you a whole new page for everything? Including all the knobs at the top? OR is it just for the buttons on the bottom half of the unit?
spirez
12:04 PM 15 August 2011
And also, can you just click the shift button and it stays on the shift page or do you have to hold it down?
I'm currently using a nanokontrol and want something more solid to go with my dicers. If I get the X1 I won't need to map cues to it so would probably have SP-6 control
I'm currently using a nanokontrol and want something more solid to go with my dicers. If I get the X1 I won't need to map cues to it so would probably have SP-6 control
VJ Justin Allen
12:16 PM 15 August 2011
You can program the shift button to do whatever you want. But yes, it does give you another page and yes it can "stick" on that page until you click it again.
I actually use it to access several areas, including my sampler
I actually use it to access several areas, including my sampler
spirez
12:47 PM 15 August 2011
Awesome, thanks.
Gonna get one today. It also comes with Traktor Pro 2 for free at the moment so that's an additional bonus. I find Traktor too cluttered but it's useful to know my way around it.
Did NI ever release an official mapping for 2.0?
Gonna get one today. It also comes with Traktor Pro 2 for free at the moment so that's an additional bonus. I find Traktor too cluttered but it's useful to know my way around it.
Did NI ever release an official mapping for 2.0?
Funkytownstopsix
12:59 PM 15 August 2011
Spirez you will get rid of the dicers... there is just no need for them if you got and X-1 you will see.
spirez
1:01 PM 15 August 2011
Sorry for the noob questions..
So if I just click the shift button I get the whole second page.
But is it possible to have that as well as holding the shift button and clicking something to get an additional secondary command?
So basically on page one I have the normal commands and the hold shift commands. Then I just tap shift on it's own and have access to another page?
So if I just click the shift button I get the whole second page.
But is it possible to have that as well as holding the shift button and clicking something to get an additional secondary command?
So basically on page one I have the normal commands and the hold shift commands. Then I just tap shift on it's own and have access to another page?
spirez
1:02 PM 15 August 2011
Essentially giving each button/knob 4 commands each?
I think I'd keep the dicers for ease of use and access to quick controls. The bigger buttons would be better for triggering cues etc.
I think I'd keep the dicers for ease of use and access to quick controls. The bigger buttons would be better for triggering cues etc.
Konix
1:08 PM 15 August 2011
No, that you can't do. You only get the two pages. The primary page, and the shift page. That's it.
With Traktor though, yes, you essentially get four pages. Two native, two regular MIDI.
With Traktor though, yes, you essentially get four pages. Two native, two regular MIDI.
spirez
1:14 PM 15 August 2011
Cool, thanks.
With the loop rolls is it possible to hold down the knob and twist at the same time to scroll through an active loop roll?
Just rang up the only two places around that would stock these and they're both sold out :(
With the loop rolls is it possible to hold down the knob and twist at the same time to scroll through an active loop roll?
Just rang up the only two places around that would stock these and they're both sold out :(
Konix
1:20 PM 15 August 2011
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With the loop rolls is it possible to hold down the knob and twist at the same time to scroll through an active loop roll?
Yes, you can do that.
Jensen Määäm
2:48 PM 15 August 2011
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Cool, thanks.With the loop rolls is it possible to hold down the knob and twist at the same time to scroll through an active loop roll?
Just rang up the only two places around that would stock these and they're both sold out :(
You will find one in an onlinestore or on ebay...
kryptonitednb
3:46 PM 16 August 2011
The reason why the are sold out everywhere is that Native Instruments was (or is) giving away Traktro Pro 2 for free ($139 value). Please note that it isn't the Scratch version (where you can use records).
djpuma_gemini
3:49 PM 16 August 2011
I see them in stock everywhere, I'm just not willing to pay $199 for it.
Konix
4:04 PM 16 August 2011
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The reason why the are sold out everywhere is that Native Instruments was (or is) giving away Traktro Pro 2 for free ($139 value).This also usually means that there's a new hardware/device coming out soon when N.I. runs special promos like this.
Konix
4:15 PM 16 August 2011
I've already seen/read rumors of an S2 controller (two channel S4), an X2 seems logical as well. The X1 was designed before Traktor Pro 2 came out, and the X1 doesn't have control/buttons for the new sampler/loop records in TP2.
Jensen Määäm
4:18 PM 16 August 2011
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I see them in stock everywhere, I'm just not willing to pay $199 for it.Then look on US ebay, you can get them for cheap there...
djpuma_gemini
4:43 PM 16 August 2011
Well seeing as how Konix mentioned a new device I'd probably wait, haven't these been out for almost 2 years now.
The cheapest I've seen them on ebay for was about $175, or there's one with a case for $199 (used)
The cheapest I've seen them on ebay for was about $175, or there's one with a case for $199 (used)
Jensen Määäm
5:42 PM 16 August 2011
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Well seeing as how Konix mentioned a new device I'd probably wait, haven't these been out for almost 2 years now.The cheapest I've seen them on ebay for was about $175, or there's one with a case for $199 (used)
You didn't look right...between 122 and 160...just within the last 2 weeks...
Even if they come with a new controller, ask yourself if the X1 will do the job and if it does then get it.
Jensen Määäm
5:59 PM 16 August 2011
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Is that what they are closing for?Yes Sir, just check the completed listings...
spirez
9:49 PM 17 August 2011
I'm gonna hang on. Will stick with my nanokontrol and dicers for now.
Might even fire up the SCS.3D and try to get back into that too. It had potential but Stanton support sucks gooch
Might even fire up the SCS.3D and try to get back into that too. It had potential but Stanton support sucks gooch
tbone8
11:32 PM 17 August 2011
I just copped one of ebay for 105 inc shipping! Damn they are big!!! I didnt reliase how bloody big they are but so far so good. NOw i just gotta map it the right way and get the lights working DAMN PC! Any suggestion ons best way to map? or should just follow konix suggestions? im so rookie when it comes to midi!
DVE
11:34 PM 17 August 2011
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For the cue points to set and trigger with the same button(s), you need to check the "enable hot cues" option in the setup menu.I've been using the X1 for some time now, and I was under the impression that the "HOTCUE" button was useless for scratch live. Or am I wrong?
Jensen Määäm
11:44 PM 17 August 2011
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I just copped one of ebay for 105 inc shipping! Damn they are big!!! I didnt reliase how bloody big they are but so far so good. NOw i just gotta map it the right way and get the lights working DAMN PC! Any suggestion ons best way to map? or should just follow konix suggestions? im so rookie when it comes to midi!I mapped the lower knobs for loops, the upper knobs for scrolling through crates and songs and loading them. The upper section for FX and the bottom section for cue points. I kept it simple....
Just different from many ppl, I do not like to see my cue points left right from the top to the bottom...so I mapped mine from top to the bottom 1 to 4 and number 5 is bottom right on the left hand side and bottom left on the right hand side...but watch Konix' vids!
djpuma_gemini
1:23 AM 18 August 2011
Not sure how you guys are finding them cheap on ebay. The lowest one I see is for $140 and it has 4 days left.
tbone8
1:54 AM 18 August 2011
yeh i pretty much lucked out i hadnt found one under 160 beforehand and got 1 as a buy it now first day it went up so i think i just timed it well.
Yeh im the same jensen so far i have only mapped the cues as i had to get to my 9-5 but tonight when i head home i think my mapping will be pretty similar to urs. The easier the better!!!
Yeh im the same jensen so far i have only mapped the cues as i had to get to my 9-5 but tonight when i head home i think my mapping will be pretty similar to urs. The easier the better!!!
Funkytownstopsix
12:41 PM 18 August 2011
X2 I am sure will be nice but X-1 does it all, the only way I buy an X-2 is if it is half price.
spirez
12:58 PM 18 August 2011
A controller with all the functionality and more that the X! has but at half the price is a statistical impossibility.
djpuma_gemini
2:30 PM 18 August 2011
true, if anything it will be more or the same price and drop the price of the X1
Funkytownstopsix
5:10 PM 18 August 2011
My point is the x-2 can't be much better than the X-1.... I sure most will see no need to go and buy one if the already have an x-1. Now if they chaged the layout form vertical to horziontal then I might consider that as it would work better for my current setup. If not I won't own a X-2
F.L.O.
3:11 AM 25 August 2011
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Alright, after numerous inquires and requests (seriously, I get like 5-10 messages a week about this on my Youtube), I present...HOW TO GET YOUR X1'S LIGHTS TO LIGHT UP ON A PC
You will need to download and install these two little programs
1) MIDI Yoke... www.midiox.com (direct download www.midiox.com )
***If you are using Vista or Windows 7, you MUST disable UAC before installing MIDI Yoke or it will not work correctly.***
2) MusicLab MIDI Device Connection Center... www.musiclab.com (direct .exe download link... www.musiclab.com)
So download and install these two things, note you will need to reboot after installing MIDI Yoke.
Now some background info. I've stated that you will need to use Bome's MIDI translator on a PC in order to get the X1's LEDs to light up. However, I've never really tested this and just assumed it would work and thought it would be just as easy on Windows PCs as it is with Macs with MIDIPipe. Unfortunately as we all know by now, that's not the case. Windows doesn't work quite the same as OSX does (what a surprise). It's possible with Bome's to light the LEDs on the X1, it's simple really, all you do is select the MIDI Thru option and viola, the LEDs light up. Problem is though, load up Scratch Live and try to map it, it won't work, as Scratch Live cannot "see" the message the X1 is sending as Bome's is the "middle man" and blocking the messages. Cause when you enable MIDI Thru mode in Bome's, any messages the X1 sends just gets sent back to the X1 (i.e to light the LEDs) and not to Scratch Live. This is what you need MIDI Yoke for, to send the messages from the X1 to the virtual MIDI port, than to Scratch Live, but back out the the X1 as well to light the LEDs. Macs/OSX have this functionality already built in and why all you need is MIDIPipe, Windows does not this functionality, at least not by default and why you need MIDI Yoke.
Anyway, instead of using Bome's, we're going to be using the MusicLab MIDI Connection center. It's a lot simpler and easier. Just open the program and you should see this...
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On the first row, select the X1 as the input, and MIDIYoke1 as the output, in the second row, select MIDIYoke1 as the input, and the X1 as the output...
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then press the two Connect buttons in the middle to connect the ports...
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and that's it! Now the lights on the X1 should light up (those that are set to triggers in the X1 Control Editor, remember toggles will already light up regardless). Now just go into Scratch Live and map away (if you haven't already).
Hope this help those with Windows/PCs that want their X1's LEDs to light up.
Video to come soon.
And of course, we wouldn't need to go through all this trouble if Scratch Live just had MIDI output. C'mon Serato and get on it! ;)
**** Hey so big question for yea??? Have you noticed that the Toggle mode wont work after you do this method??? cause i did everything u said to a T and it worked out great but then i went to play around on it and i cant use my toggle mode buttons and when i try to map them out, Serato shows that is is mapped to the buttons i desired, so then i tried disableing the connection center and it it brought everything back to the way i had it before with noe light ups on gate modes, then connect again in the center and toggle's die but lights work on gats and triggers...
Daktyl
1:19 PM 3 September 2011
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is there a way to you can don't have all for four fx buttons lit up at the same time...IE fx1 on the left side turns off when fx1 on the right side is pushed???anybody ever figure out if there's a way to do this?
Funkytownstopsix
1:53 PM 6 September 2011
The sentence doesn't make much sense as it states "can don't. If your lights are lighting up on more than one button when you press then your problem is that you have buttons that have the same number. Change the number of one of the buttons and you will see that the light will no longer light up.
Daktyl
4:16 PM 7 September 2011
I was just quoting somebody... a couple of people brought this issue up but no one ever presented a solution... the example I chose to quote wasn't the clearest I guess lol
Funkytownstopsix
4:19 PM 7 September 2011
u do understand what I am saying. If your buttons have the same number then you will get the same actions.
Daktyl
4:29 PM 7 September 2011
it's not that 2 buttons light up when i hit one button, the issue is this:
if you have two controls mapped in serato where turning one function on turns the other one off, the light feedback on the x1 doesn't represent the feature states in the software accurately.
an example would be if you have one button mapped to open the djfx tab, and another mapped to open the sp6 tab. You hit the button to open the djfx. djfx tab opens and the light turns on. then you hit the button to open the sp6. sp6 tab opens, and the light for that button turns on, but the djfx button still stays lit. not a big deal, you can look at the laptop and easily see which tab is open.
where it's a pain for me is with the djfx. I have buttons mapped to deck one and deck two for both of the fx banks. if you have the left bank effecting deck one, then you hit the deck one button on the right bank... now both lights are lit up, but only one of the effects is actually on. is there any way to make the buttons "talk to each other" some midipipe magic or something where if one button is in the on state and you hit another button linked to it the 1st button goes into the off state....
I hope I'm explaining this clearly...
if you have two controls mapped in serato where turning one function on turns the other one off, the light feedback on the x1 doesn't represent the feature states in the software accurately.
an example would be if you have one button mapped to open the djfx tab, and another mapped to open the sp6 tab. You hit the button to open the djfx. djfx tab opens and the light turns on. then you hit the button to open the sp6. sp6 tab opens, and the light for that button turns on, but the djfx button still stays lit. not a big deal, you can look at the laptop and easily see which tab is open.
where it's a pain for me is with the djfx. I have buttons mapped to deck one and deck two for both of the fx banks. if you have the left bank effecting deck one, then you hit the deck one button on the right bank... now both lights are lit up, but only one of the effects is actually on. is there any way to make the buttons "talk to each other" some midipipe magic or something where if one button is in the on state and you hit another button linked to it the 1st button goes into the off state....
I hope I'm explaining this clearly...
Funkytownstopsix
5:41 PM 7 September 2011
I change the state of the button in serato to achieve the desired effect that I want with serato.. I had some issue with that but I did it so long ago... but I did change states to fix that. States meaning if I recall correctly binary, analog ect ect. Have you tried that.?
Joshua Carl
7:01 PM 7 September 2011
problem is, as mentioned in all the videos, serato does NOT put OUT a midi signal.
so, in essence you just sending signals (Via x-1 TO ssl), not truly having a 2-way midi conversation between thex-1 and SSL.
so, in essence you just sending signals (Via x-1 TO ssl), not truly having a 2-way midi conversation between thex-1 and SSL.
Funkytownstopsix
8:09 PM 7 September 2011
: ) correct I was still stuck on two lights being turned on when pressing on button.. There is rumor that serato is working on setting up midi output but until then press on and press off.
Funkytownstopsix
8:10 PM 7 September 2011
: ) correct I was still stuck on two lights being turned on when pressing one button.
feniks
1:15 AM 8 September 2011
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problem is, as mentioned in all the videos, serato does NOT put OUT a midi signal.so, in essence you just sending signals (Via x-1 TO ssl), not truly having a 2-way midi conversation between thex-1 and SSL.
i think this is fixed in version 2.2/2.3
i have both the dicers and x1 connected and the x1 lights light up fine....even without midipipe running. i did download the new driver from NI.
Joshua Carl
1:23 AM 8 September 2011
Theres special mapping/language for the Dicers, the Denon controller ect ect.
arguably you could say its like HUD mode with the pioneers.
in other words... theres not midi out for non-supported devices.
arguably you could say its like HUD mode with the pioneers.
in other words... theres not midi out for non-supported devices.
Joshua Carl
2:09 AM 8 September 2011
right, it went from "midi device" to "supported device" in 2.1 I think... maybe 2.2
you think the x-1 would eventually fall under this catagory, it has a template in the
editor, and a SSL Overlay.
but if they did that, we wouldnt be able to map it the way we like
you think the x-1 would eventually fall under this catagory, it has a template in the
editor, and a SSL Overlay.
but if they did that, we wouldnt be able to map it the way we like
Daktyl
1:18 PM 9 September 2011
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I change the state of the button in serato to achieve the desired effect that I want with serato.. I had some issue with that but I did it so long ago... but I did change states to fix that. States meaning if I recall correctly binary, analog ect ect. Have you tried that.?i didn't try that yet... for now, I turn one off before I turn the other one on, or close the sp6 b4 I open the djfx panel, etc... I realize serato doesn't have midi feedback, so it won't work that way... I was just wondering if anyone knew of a way to solve this problem by way of midipipe.
skasi28
8:08 PM 27 October 2011
Hi all!
Is it possible to assign multiple commands to one button. I would like to have all pitch faders in sample bank behind one knob. Is it possible at all?
Is it possible to assign multiple commands to one button. I would like to have all pitch faders in sample bank behind one knob. Is it possible at all?
WarpNote
1:32 AM 28 October 2011
I think it might be possible with some custom editing of the midi.xml file.
Haven't tried it thought, but I have it working the other way around: same function on both left/right dicer (Library Scroll)
Haven't tried it thought, but I have it working the other way around: same function on both left/right dicer (Library Scroll)
damehype
3:28 PM 3 November 2011
I could never get my Dicers and X1 to play nice together. Dicers always took precedence
djgrits7
3:33 PM 3 November 2011
hey guys have you ever noticed your traktor control x1 just stopped working midset, tried replugging it in, resetting everything but serato but to no avail...get home and plug it in and no problems at all! anybody else have any problems? thanks!
Joshua Carl
9:16 PM 3 November 2011
I think i mentioed that somewhere on the boards here.
for some reason (someone mentioned something to do with the kernels or something)
if u unplug certain things, and than re-plug then WITHOUT restarting the software u can have issues.
Ive seen this 1st hand on 2 occasions.
1. unplug x-1 during a ssl session... replug it in... no dice.
shut down SSL, plug in x-1, restart SSL no problems.
2. doing a back and forth with my boy on a 57 + 1200s
Im doing video, he is not. while he plays I am playing matching videos on all the screens
in the club....
when U re-plug in the 57, the video feed from the mini-display port looses 1/2 its strength.
and i only have a video signal on the closer 10 tvs, the 2nd 20 are blank...
I really pulled my hair out on this....
I finally remedied by shutting everything down, replugging all the ports and starting the programs over
(basically the same way you start a night)
for some reason (someone mentioned something to do with the kernels or something)
if u unplug certain things, and than re-plug then WITHOUT restarting the software u can have issues.
Ive seen this 1st hand on 2 occasions.
1. unplug x-1 during a ssl session... replug it in... no dice.
shut down SSL, plug in x-1, restart SSL no problems.
2. doing a back and forth with my boy on a 57 + 1200s
Im doing video, he is not. while he plays I am playing matching videos on all the screens
in the club....
when U re-plug in the 57, the video feed from the mini-display port looses 1/2 its strength.
and i only have a video signal on the closer 10 tvs, the 2nd 20 are blank...
I really pulled my hair out on this....
I finally remedied by shutting everything down, replugging all the ports and starting the programs over
(basically the same way you start a night)
Funkytownstopsix
1:37 AM 4 November 2011
THIS IS CoRRECT..... happened to me twice so far.... sad it's like that but that's just the way it is...
p.l.o.style
3:21 PM 4 November 2011
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1. unplug x-1 during a ssl session... replug it in... no dice.
shut down SSL, plug in x-1, restart SSL no problems.
yessir
Konix
6:08 PM 28 November 2011
Some updated news. I don't think you need MIDIPipe or any other external MIDI translating program anymore to get the LEDs to light up when pressed. NI finally added the option in the Control Editor (make sure you update to the latest version of the Control Editor). When a button is assigned as a "Note" and also a "Gate" there's a new option called "LED On," set it to "For MIDI Out." Now the button's LED will light when pressed down.
It might have been like this for a while, not sure exactly, as I haven't updated the Control Editor software in a while, but I noticed this when messing around with my S4 recently. Looks like it should work for the X1 too (don't have an X1 anymore to test, but I see the option as well in the X1).
Anyone that can test this out?
It might have been like this for a while, not sure exactly, as I haven't updated the Control Editor software in a while, but I noticed this when messing around with my S4 recently. Looks like it should work for the X1 too (don't have an X1 anymore to test, but I see the option as well in the X1).
Anyone that can test this out?
Jensen Määäm
12:40 AM 29 November 2011
^I went to the website downloaded the last update for the X1, installed it and now, nothing is working...now I have a controller editor on my laptop that shows me other hardware, that I don't even have and says at the same time, thatthis hardware is not connected, but I can't choose an X1 there anymore...damn! I need to install the software for the X1 all over again.
Mr. Goodkat
12:26 AM 8 December 2011
look at konix video dealing with x1 implementation thru midi pipe
feniks
2:01 AM 8 December 2011
it's not completely broken with Lion...just a bit glitchy. i actually switched to the Allen & Heath Xone:1D which works flawlessly with SL and Lion.
DJ Dub Cowboy
3:03 AM 8 December 2011
the A&H K2 looked like an X1 killer until I saw the MAP price....$599
the_black_one
3:07 AM 8 December 2011
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the A&H K2 looked like an X1 killer until I saw the MAP price....$599agree..... that price tag is fucking ludicrous
Konix
4:27 AM 8 December 2011
Where did you see/hear $599, Dub? As good as the K2 looks, that's just ridiculous. Everything I've read so far points to estimated £200 GBP, so I'd equate that to no more than $299-350 USD.
DJ Dub Cowboy
4:40 AM 8 December 2011
from my distributor. it's still not shipping yet from what I can tell. maybe it will change once that happens.
SUBSTANCE
10:51 AM 8 December 2011
I have my X1 working with Lion. Just had to update the controller editor software & drivers for the X1.
Joshua Carl
9:37 PM 8 December 2011
that A&H K2 looks great... but it looks SOOO much like a no frills mixer.
If I had disposable income It looks like it would be a great piece of gear to maybe be a
back up to rock internal mode if all hell breaks loose.
but I still think the x-1 layout is better for when we do (IE also having mixing controls on the mixer...no big need for sliders)
btw, if your a video guy, and using ME they will be having Midi-Out signals so
you mappings will react with the lights....no more midi pipe.
[honestly...I stopped using midi pipe after a week anyways)
If I had disposable income It looks like it would be a great piece of gear to maybe be a
back up to rock internal mode if all hell breaks loose.
but I still think the x-1 layout is better for when we do (IE also having mixing controls on the mixer...no big need for sliders)
btw, if your a video guy, and using ME they will be having Midi-Out signals so
you mappings will react with the lights....no more midi pipe.
[honestly...I stopped using midi pipe after a week anyways)
Konix
6:16 PM 12 January 2012
NI just released this teaser of their new controller. Could this be the X2? Looks like their answer to the A&H:K2
p.twimg.com
p.twimg.com
Jeff Scott
6:34 PM 12 January 2012
Hopefully that possible X2 is just what i'm looking for, i'v been contemplating a K2 to go alongside my X1 but that looks very similar
Roll on NAMM :)
Roll on NAMM :)
Konix
6:38 PM 12 January 2012
NI doesn't go to trade shows anymore, so they won't be "at" NAMM. However, they'll probably still release more info or teasers next week.
Joshua Carl
6:41 PM 12 January 2012
Quote:
NI just released this teaser of their new controller. Could this be the X2? Looks like their answer to the A&H:K2p.twimg.com
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang!!
Im officially teased!
p.l.o.style
6:48 PM 12 January 2012
faders seem like a great idea. but i don't know how much better it can be than the x1. x1 is dope already.
DJ Dub Cowboy
10:32 PM 12 January 2012
that new controller looks dope, I'm glad I waited on the X1 too. three four
Jensen Määäm
10:42 PM 12 January 2012
I'm glad I bought that thing when they released it! Love the crate and song scroll, song load, handling the loops, the cue points,...everything is right there. Luv it!
Joshua Carl
11:08 PM 12 January 2012
serious the last 6 months have been a dream with the x1.
my keyboard looks brand new... though my eyes are starting to strain becuase im never at my computer/..
I hope they do the same deal as the X1 with the SSL supprt.
my keyboard looks brand new... though my eyes are starting to strain becuase im never at my computer/..
I hope they do the same deal as the X1 with the SSL supprt.
echa1945mf
11:04 AM 13 January 2012
anybody tried Reloop Contour , its works flawelessly with Traktor and from the design i think would be awesome to be used by SSL , it got more complete control over x1 , tried it lastweek on a Reloop DJ Clinic but only got to try it on traktor
djpuma_gemini
5:12 PM 13 January 2012
What are the faders for, well what can they do for SSL and Mix Emergency don't care about traktor
Jeff Scott
5:37 PM 13 January 2012
I'm thinking of using 1/2 faders for 3rd deck Pitch/Fine Pitch, Actually hoping i can use the controller to control my third deck in clubs with only 2 decks
F.L.O.
3:16 AM 19 January 2012
Now all SSL has to figure out is getting midi out's figured the hell out so all of us can have an easier time using non-serato midi controllers
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