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tirm/gains reversed

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Scratch Live
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hard8 5:05 PM - 7 January, 2005
I am using ssl with a tascam xs-8 and everything seems to be working fine but I notice that the gains are reversed. I also noticed that in order to hear sound, I had to activate program reverse on the mixer, which put everything right except the trim/gains. I checked my lines and everything is connected right, and I also checked the pgm reverse in the SSL software.

Is this common? How can fix this?
nik39 6:09 PM - 7 January, 2005
Reverse switch in SSL active?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:40 PM - 7 January, 2005
Definitely check the Input Reverse switch located in the top right part of the main screen as Nik suggested (the green light should be off for normal use btw).
hard8 6:43 PM - 7 January, 2005
yes... I have tried it both ways. As soon as I switch to the thru inputs, it rights itself. Bizzzzzarre.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:48 PM - 7 January, 2005
What you are hearing is the control signal of the control vinyl. The thru outputs are only for real record playback. The line outs of the interface must be connected to the line inputs of your mixer for computer program playback.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:53 PM - 7 January, 2005
I suggest unplugging the thrus until you get the line outs working properly :)
hard8 2:25 AM - 8 January, 2005
no... what the problem is is that the gain knobs are reversed for some reason. everything matches up when using SSL except the gain knobs...ie. gain left controls right output.. and right controls left... Left upfader is left deck, right upfader is right deck. q's are correct for left, right as well...just the gains are reversed.


When I switch to thru outputs (to use real vinyl, everything stays the same, except the gains switch back to the proper sides. So in short... the gain knobs are switched to the wrong side
when in SSL... when I switch to line thrus, the gain knobs switch to the proper sides.

I checked the reverse switch in SSL. Not lit. I checked and re-checked the cabling. They are routed to the proper inputs and outputs. I unplugged the thrus altogether and disconnected the power supply. Same story.

The next thing I'm going to try is to purposely route the cables in reverse. Is it possible my box could have been wired in reverse? Maybe the left and right was crossed in manufacture?
Revolutionary 9:32 AM - 8 January, 2005
What build of SSL are you using? So, what you're saying is that when you turn the gain knob to the right, the sound gets weaker? And the other way around? That's a weird problem...
nobspangle 12:11 PM - 8 January, 2005
Are you talking about the gain knobs on your mixer or the ones in the SSL program?
Revolutionary 12:13 PM - 8 January, 2005
Are you sure the right cables are going to the right place? Channel 1 Line from the SSL interface goes to channel 1 on your mixer and the other way around? Still doesn't explain the gain thing...
hard8 4:11 PM - 8 January, 2005
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What build of SSL are you using? So, what you're saying is that when you turn the gain knob to the right, the sound gets weaker? And the other way around? That's a weird problem...


That is EXACTLY what Im talking about. Not sure of the build version. I have not done any updates yet. I could make sense of it if everything on the mixer was reversed, but it's just the gain knobs. When I switch to the thrus to play real records, the gains switch back to normal.... only in SSL does this happen. Weird huh?
Revolutionary 4:20 PM - 8 January, 2005
Very weird. When you enter the setup area, does it say version 1.2 (1219) in the bottom right corner? If so, try installing a previous version on your computer and see if that helps.
Revolutionary 4:20 PM - 8 January, 2005
You can find them here www.scratchlive.net
hard8 6:47 PM - 8 January, 2005
looks like v 1.2

You know... if that's the only thing wrong with it, I'm willing to overlook it. The product is a miracle unto itself. I hardly ever touch the gains once they are set anyway. Not to mention this little baby just saved me tons on wax... which I have to drive 300 miles to buy.

Thanks for the help though guys.
Detroitbootybass 7:03 PM - 8 January, 2005
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looks like v 1.2

You know... if that's the only thing wrong with it, I'm willing to overlook it. The product is a miracle unto itself. I hardly ever touch the gains once they are set anyway. Not to mention this little baby just saved me tons on wax... which I have to drive 300 miles to buy.

Thanks for the help though guys.


Where in the hell do you live that you have to drive three-hundred miles for vinyl?
hard8 7:41 PM - 8 January, 2005
Coeur d'Alene, ID... I live about 30 miles from Spokane Wa. but the last good record store closed down a few months ago. Now I have to drive to Seattle to get anything close to a new release. And breaks aren't real popular in Spokane...all DnB :(
bartaug 8:02 PM - 8 January, 2005
You could try Internet vinyl shops like www.nuloop.com , or just by MP3's from shops in the list at www.scratchlive.net
Revolutionary 8:23 PM - 8 January, 2005
What I would do is to try it on another computer and another mixer. If you get the same thing, it could be the interface. I'm sure the Rane guys would have a look at it if you go to Seattle after you have done that. They are some cool dudes.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 10:09 PM - 12 January, 2005
@hard8 Have you had any luck figuring out what might be causing the reversing?
hard8 5:46 PM - 15 January, 2005
no sir. Must be something with my mixer. I tried it on a Pioneer DJM300 and had no problems.
Not too big a deal as I almost never touch the gains.

Anyone else here use an XS-8 or Ecler HAK 320?
Detroitbootybass 6:47 PM - 15 January, 2005
I use an Ecler HAK 360, but not the 320... no issues, by the way.
nobspangle 7:20 PM - 15 January, 2005
Are we talking about the gains in SSL or the ones on the mixer?
Detroitbootybass 7:25 PM - 15 January, 2005
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Are we talking about the gains in SSL or the ones on the mixer?


I was under the impression that we were discussing the mixer gains... I could be wrong though.
nobspangle 7:27 PM - 15 January, 2005
In that case it just sounds like the line inputs on the mixer a wired the wrong way round, if the leads are connected up right then it's an internal problem in the mixer. Not quite sure how that would happen though as the toggles should be soldered directly on to a circuit board.
Revolutionary 8:16 PM - 15 January, 2005
I'm confused. Is it the mixer's gain reversed or SSL's?
Revolutionary 8:16 PM - 15 January, 2005
*drop it...
Detroitbootybass 8:59 PM - 15 January, 2005
The mixer... I think.

;-)