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Latency when needle dropping?

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Daim 1:38 PM - 7 January, 2005
Hi.. i just set up my serato and it's really good.

But when i do needle dropping in absolute mode there's always a little break. I use the smallest packet size and got an athlon 3000+ with 512mb ram..

Is that normal?
Daim 1:39 PM - 7 January, 2005
oh sorry.. found another thread about this..
Daim 1:44 PM - 7 January, 2005
which didn't really help me
Diva 2:02 PM - 7 January, 2005
Daim - I am not sure what you mean by "packet" size? But have you set your USB buffer size to a low setting (say 1 or 2). Check the bottom of page 14 on your manual.

Personally I cannot hear a little break when needle dropping.
nik39 2:27 PM - 7 January, 2005
Daim, SSLs team is always working on new features etc. And I am pretty confident that it will be improved sooner or later.
Revolutionary 3:09 PM - 7 January, 2005
They explained it another thread...
Diva 3:16 PM - 7 January, 2005
Latency should be less than half a second. (and for me I don't notice it at all - but then again I don't scratch).

Another thing you could try is this:

Disable Disc Indexing Service
Right Click Start > Explorer > Right Click Each Disc > Properties
Untick "Allow Indexing Service to index this disc for fast file searching" - this will lead to a message if the option should be applied to all directories. Choose "yes..." and wait, until procedure is finished.

This is a tweak for XP. There are more in the Tips & Tricks section.
nobspangle 6:55 PM - 7 January, 2005
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Latency should be less than half a second.

Half a second (500ms) is an age in latency terms.
Daim 7:01 PM - 7 January, 2005
Thx a lot fo the answers!

I fixed it.. now it's almost nothing.. you don't recognize it anymore :)

No idea what i did.. i think it was Diva's tip
Daim 7:46 PM - 7 January, 2005
Btw.. it ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Revolutionary 9:01 PM - 7 January, 2005
Yeah, but you don't really require things to be done real fast when needle dropping. It isn't synched with anything else. That's why you need a latency as low as 7 ms when scratching because you're using the crossfader in addition.
nik39 9:08 PM - 7 January, 2005
Rev you need low latency on needle drops when you do tricks with different areas on your record.
Revolutionary 9:10 PM - 7 January, 2005
Yeah, I know. But not as low as when scratching. 500 ms is bad. My needle dropping is pretty fast, so it ain't really a problem for me.
dj synystr 9:25 PM - 7 January, 2005
i agree, 500 ms on a needle drop isnt much but on a nice technical cut its a LIFETIME!
Revolutionary 9:26 PM - 7 January, 2005
Yeah, just notice the difference between scratching at the lowest possible setting and the highest. It's really just 20 ms or something...
Revolutionary 9:26 PM - 7 January, 2005
In addition to the 7 that is...
nik39 9:27 PM - 7 January, 2005
Exactly. The way the needle dropping is implemented in 1219 its not good enough to do those tricks I talk about.
dj synystr 9:27 PM - 7 January, 2005
what tricks are you talking about?
nik39 9:29 PM - 7 January, 2005
You know that trick when you got different basstones in different areas of your record and you try to play a melody with switching to different areas?
dj synystr 9:29 PM - 7 January, 2005
ah yes, then you would have a slight problem. i just thought you meant in general for finding smaples faster or something.
Revolutionary 9:32 PM - 7 January, 2005
Is this being fixed, nik?
nik39 9:37 PM - 7 January, 2005
Rev, you're asking the wrong guy, sorry. I would be surprised if the SSL team would take it as it is right now. There is still lots of room for improvement :-)
Revolutionary 9:39 PM - 7 January, 2005
Yeah, but there are also a lot of things that are great ;) Focus on the good stuff, you know :)
nik39 9:40 PM - 7 January, 2005
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there are also a lot of things that are great

Agreed.
Sam 11:43 PM - 9 January, 2005
The delay when needle dropping will be significantly reduced in the next version.
KMXE 2:42 AM - 10 January, 2005
woohoo!!! this is something that has made me think SSL wasn't quite like vinyl - this lil delay, but if it will be significantly reduced... this will bring SSL closer to perfection
God is a DJ 8:52 PM - 12 January, 2005
nice, sam.
Revolutionary 9:01 PM - 12 January, 2005
Not just nice, man. That's awesome!
dj synystr 2:24 AM - 13 January, 2005
to be honest, i did as an experiment a needle dropping test with a ton, there is a slight delay but for overall useage like finding a point on a record its fine. good to see though that Serato is constantly improving there products performance. AWSOME!