I was almost definetely going to buy SSL within the next month until i heard about fs2.

I know that FS has alot of problems and all taht, cause i spent alot of time on the TFS board. But, everyone says the only problem is the old Scrath Amp and everything shoudl be fixed with FS2.

Anywayz, to the reason. When i heard about the FS2 and Trakto dj studio intergration i thought it was unbelieveable. This could be soooooo cool for someone who plays trance/techno as myself. Like i was thinkin what you could do, you could have a track playin on a turntable with FS then in Traktor studio you could load up like say a really nice guitar loop and play it on top of the main mix like out of nowhere to make some really really creative sets. You get wher im goin with this? Like think about all the cool stuff you could do. And it also has some amazing filters that you will most likely be able to use with FS. Pracitcally make your own music on the fly. No doubt if SSL had this option i would buy it. Ill just wait and see how stable and nice FS2 works. ill give it a few weeks and then decide which one is better for me.

Wait do you think i could use Traktor dj studio with SSL?

Is that possible??? Like id have the turntables and mixer playin with ssl, and id have a seperate midi device controlling the traktor dj studio!

Will this work?? Like for example can i have 2 tracks mixin in SSL and add like a nice little loop from traktor studio on top of that, ofcourse this is from the same laptop.

Could work, I run SSL together with Ableton Live 4 (with VST instruments) from the same box. Of course you can't load Live 4 to the max then. SSL uses most cpu when the needle drops or when scratching (lot of mp3 decoding). If you mix regular or use wav's instead of mp3 it could reduce the load.

That's where I use Live 4 for (instead of Traktor). You can could 'beatmark' tracks or just make your own grooves with it.

AWESOME. but one more question, how do u monitor your live 4 tracks?

This is confusing but bear with me. Since the traktor studio wont be connected to the mixer but instead into a midi device how can you listen to a traktor loop in your headfones without bringing it into the main audio mix. Get it?

Tell me how you go about doing this. How do you play ssl and listen to live 4 tracks in your headphones without distrubing the mix?

Doesn't SSL use more CPU when you just play a track than when you scratch it? I might be wrong about this though.


Who told you this? Stanton? NI? Gotta love subliminal propaganda.
If I were you, I would definitely test-drive it before I even considered buying it. However, there's no doubt what I would have chosen if I were you - Serato Scratch Live...

No, youre wrong, actually, when you scratch SSL uses less CPU as it doesnt need to decode the next parts of the mp3.

Well, that's what I said, dude. Read it over again, nik39.



SSL uses more CPU when you play a regular track than when you scratch.



SSL uses less CPU when you scratch.

Same thing, huh?

Rev, sorry, I read it the other way round, just before I decided that you meant it wrong. My fault.

Because Live 4 uses it's own sound card (luckely the SSL box is not ASIO, otherwise I could not do this), it has it's own outputs to my DJM600 and I can PFL them there, just as another deck. So I have 2 TT channels and 1 Live 4 channel . The mixer in Live 4 itself can be controlled with an Evolution UC33 over MIDI.

I read somewhere on the FS board the USB chip they use in the scratch amp has a hardware bug in it, making it unreliable. I'm sure the FS2 amp will be better, it hardly can get worse :-)

Ahhhh, got ya. cool stuff.

Kinda sux that you gotta get a soundcard and carry it around but i guess you get used to it. and there small anywayz so it dont really matter.

So bartaug the soundcards output goes intot he line in, in the mixer? and it acts just like say a cd turntable right?

im thinkin of getting the uc17 with the crossfader. looks kool and its small too.

I have a Shuttle XPC, evertyhing is in a small box with a bag (from Shuttle) to carry it. I only need a seperate case for the display.

I read somewhere on this board that there are also plans for MIDI clock output from SSL. That would be even easier:-)


Yes, it the master sum of Live 4 just as a turntable.

The M-Audio Transit is a good external USB soundcard, is very light, cheap, requires no external powersupply and is smaller than a cigarette packet: www.m-audio.com

Does optical out, too...

hth

Paul

I run SSL and Traktor and have done the 4 deck thing on some of my sets. It's really awesome, but I really wish TDJS would come with a smaller pitch range adj. (+-35 is just too big to zero in on the pitch).

I'm not really sure if Traktor and FS will run like you want it to anyway... I've heard mixed things about this, but it sounds like FS will be like SSL where it allows loops by using the relative mode of the record...I don't think this will give you more than 2 decks to work with. I've also heard that TDJS 3 is gunna incorporate a "3rd deck option" and have it be like a loop sampler.

THAT SUX. thnx for the info bro.

Imma do what youre doin and get SSL and Traktor. I agree with the Pitch bein to much. it even has an option to make it +-100. Thats insane

So how is your setup exactly. you got ssl in the mixer and all that but what about traktor. what soundcard you got and how do you have it all plugged in? Also how do you monitor your traktor loops and tracks?

Is the lag really bad or is it decent. imma get a preety powerful laptop so it shoudlnt really be a problem since itll be only dedicated to sll and traktor.