thanks steve cant wait to see your work.:)

Well I don't get it. It wasn't very good and you do need some more practice. The underlying vocals were drowning out the song you were trying to place on top of it, and your images were pretty confusing.

And if you don;t want opinions, then don;t ask for it.

Oh yes, here is my work since that seems to be a qualification of answering your post.

www.vjjustinallen.com

thanks for sharing. that clip made me a little dizzy.

I dont think the images were confusing, but the MOP yelling in the background was definately a problem. If you can, find the instrumental to ANTE UP and use it without vocals.

Wasn't really feeling mix of inst and acapella.

Did you record that as a straight mix from SLV or FCP?

VJ Justin Allen......chiillllll. I don't want any problems.LOL. But thanks for all constructive opinions from all you guys. But I like to see mashups like ron.g and dj sns used to make in the early ninties. if u remember all those mix tapes around the northeast. I want to do the same but with video so I'm learning. your work was on time Justin Allen but how would you approach a longer mix. how would u create that, clips in and out of both videos know what i mean. And please do not get offended I am asking seriously cause we all can learn from each other. So when I told steve can't wait to see his work I mean that shit. I really want to check it out. So please fellas no one get offended.. Holla at your boy. Peace.

Demon, Actually that was from my DVJ-X1's. I am still not happy with the quality of video form the 57 yet.

Eye357,

No problem at all my man! :P It's just the threads lately have been too picky lately.

I think you should look at what everyone else said, utilize the breaks and beats to overlay. I have really been playing with the SL1 and the DVJ's in order to get a great overlay. It's not all there yet, but I am starting to see some possibilities.

Demon,

I wanted to add something as well. Those were just straight loop mixes. Easily done with either Serato or the Pioneer's.

The key, just like audio, is to know where the breaks are. In many ways, mixing video is like playing 45's. Not a lot of time to get it together :)

Right arm, I was just curious because I didn't recognize the transition fades. You using that Edirol deal?

yeah different transitions. I like vdj too I have that but just starting working with that too. trail and error process here. lol

Demon,

Yes, I am using the Edirol.

thanks steve, makes sense, i want my final product to be professional.

i like this guy eye357. he gave me props on *my* video and i appreciate that. but, i gotta throw some constructive points in here.

* the mashup is not good. that's an opinion of course, in my opinion that mashup is straight busted. mostly because the ante up is hollering constantly

* the credits for ante up are nearly constant throughout. i think somebody mentioned that. i normally don't do any extra effort to cut out credits either, but then again, i normally don't loop the credits either.

* the video is a straight BLEND of two videos almost throughout. this does not look proffessional at all. check a real music video and you'll rarely see two action images laid over eachother for that amount of time. rarely if ever.

* mixing out of that video at any point where both videos are faded over eachother, while mixing ANOTHER video over those two, would likely be a straight mess. clean cuts on the edit is what i prefer to go with. the fancier and more stylized the edit, the less flexible the edit is for mixing.

that's just all my personal opinion though. obviously dude has some hustle and coming up in the game. my first edits weren't all that great either but you live and learn. keep bangin and before long, u get the midas touch.

oh yeah, and eye357, i have a gang of edits already posted online if feel the need to clown them.

thanks A-swift i am going to the attic now to hang myself...LMAO. just kidding. nah man thats what i want, a great critique of my work. I am taking notes and will apply to next video. And once again u take the time out to help someone thats whats up. God bless, Peace.

oh yeah eye357, i forgot to mention that Steve DUB has only been doing edits for like 2 weeks and he's already posted a handful of them and they ALL bang in the club. surprised he didn't drop that knowledge on you when you came at him.

man i really need to do that training session i been talking about since forever. i could learn some tricks from you guys and show you guys some tricks that i've learned. my latest favorite trick is the reverse trick for keeping dancers on beat. i stole that one from dvdjhardy:

vids.myspace.com

the 8 bar intro, you see what i'm talking about. on my computer i have to let the whole flash load in order for it to be on sync though.

Swifty here it the one I was telling you about:
Watchwww.youtube.com

K.

Originally yes. I mixed the two versions and inst. edited the outro and made it more streamlined. Great track but the rap at +30 percent was too much.

Kris P.

so have you moved away from the DVJ's and into Serato?

nice work.........................

Without getting into a which is better debate....I love DVJ's and they have been amazing for me for almost 4 years. I have played with SL-Video numberus time over the past year and it seems like it will be an great product too....someday.

I think SL-Video will catch the eye of more DVJs guys once they unlock the midi feature so people can use it with DJM-800's. The 800 is the standard now for clubs and for guys on the road, knowone wants to carry around a 57 from show to show.

So the answer is no, DVJs 100% of the time. I havn't even done an audio only show in a few years.

Kris P.

Thanks Kris P. I also use the DVJ's 100% of the time. I am starting to use Serato in order to play with the audio along with the video, but am not happy with it all yet.

The one thing I do like about Serato is the 5 cue points and loop points PER SONG. vs the 3 hot cues per disk for the DVJ's. I wish they would fix that.

But in the meantime I am using 3 DVJ's and attempting to mix it up using all three of them. And like yourself, it's been 2-3 years of all video for me as well.

Steve,

The main issue with the 57 and videos right now that there really are too many unresolved issues with it. Not wanting to get into specifics, but the 57 / Serato package just needs to be rock solid 100% of the time. And right now, it's not. It's not a slam, it's just that there are so many things happening with the software / video side of it that it tends to have problems. It has to be run with the right hardware, with videos done just so, with the 3rd light switch closest to the rear door flipped up (well that's not true, but you know what I mean).

I think Serato with video will continue to grow and evolve, but right now when I walk out the door it's with my DVJ's and 800 mixer. The 57 stays behind for more testing. Just my opinion as of today.

Steve,

First off I have about 3000 videos that I could play on any given night. Not 3000 videos total, 3000 that I could play. And others have much more. So trust me when I say that external drives will be the only way to go.

Also, I use 2500 - 5000 lumen projectors, with the smallest being 120". Artifacts and contrast issues show up on screens these size. Bad enough using DVD's from Promo Only, but when you start compressing already compressed videos...well the issues just compound from there.

Serato cannot handle MPEG yet and until it does, in my opinion, it's not ready yet. Also, Kris P. had a great point (as others have had as well) that the 57 is not an option, especially when the Pioneer 800 (and others) are already there.

Yeah, I personally do not like the 57. It's to much of a scratch mixer for me. Everything cuts to fast. I've been using the 800 for a long time and really wish I could use it instead of the 57.

Steve:
The reason I said I wouldn't take a 57 is because every week I bring my macbook pro, 1T external HD and external burner on the road. I also never check in bags. (That’s just the way I travel) Also every club I play has the gear already there for me. If SL-Video had midi, I wouldn't need to bring anything else but a midi cable. Trust me I've set up more gear than anyone can ever imagine in the last 15+ years, but then you’re on the road it's different.

Justin:
I am curious about what the highest resolution output you can get out of Sl-Video. I've done shows on 15,000+ lumen HD projectors and even composite 720x480 looked like crap.

Kris P.

Kris P.

I am sure you meant to say Component and not Composite video. You are right, when using a 15,000 lumen projector, you have to remember it's not the component output that is your biggest issue, it the original video (DVD) that is the issue. As I am sure you know by the time Promo Only and others get the video, and let's assume it's a brand new video, it's been taken from the original post copy (and let's assume HD) down to digibeta or just plain beta. That is the biggest issue right thee. Then it is ingested into their editing system, and then, if we are lucky, converted real time via hardware encoder to the MPEG1 file. Even in the best of cases we are now at the 3rd generation of the "original" video. And I know some music services that do not even use hardware encoders, just software encoders.

Now, there is a way to "scale-up" the video, however most of these boxes, on the professional level, start at around $20,000. SOmetimes I borrow a friends Teranex box for really huge screens, but that costs $80,000. Also, a VJ's biggest issue is not how to make one video look great, anyone can do that...it's how do we make 80-200 video a night look good. With all of them being made in different years, using different technology. It's impossible.

What I was talking about was using Serato video, which is 320x240 or slightly bigger, re-encoded from MPEG1 to quicktime or another format Serato uses (now we are at 5th, 6th, 7th generation), AND THEN blown back up to a 120" screen or bigger. You get compression artifacts, and severe contrast issues. This is one reason why videos look so dark on the screen guys.

However you know all of this I am sure Kris P. :)

I actually meant composite because that's all DVJ-1000s have. (and S-VIDEO) I did a gig in Vegas with HD projectors and HD content and ran DVJ X-1's with Component, and it looked real good. The SMV-1000 has component out but no upscaling.

Can you get 720x480 out of SL-Video?

Kris

Ah...well short answer is yes...and no. Yes because it can support it, but no because the computer running it cannot support that size. It will not play or just skip.

And sorry I didn't get the composite thing...all I have are the DVJ-x1's. The 1000's seems to plastic to me to get used to.

I actually prefer the 1000s there load time is quicker and they feel "faster" if that makes any scene. There are some mixes that i do that are so quick I cant pull it off on X1s. Plus they are a little smaller and a lot lighter. I keep a pair in my trunk just in case I need them for anything. :)

.....This tread got WAY off topic, lets see some more videos!

Kris P.

you can get 1080p out of vsl. the boxed version comes with a few hd clips

all i meant was, on my slow ass G5 (where i am usually on the forums), if the video on myspace starts playing before its fully downloaded, the shit is off sync and it makes my edit look like ass because the dancers that spent so much time getting on beat, ... are off beat.

i just did 3 more edits on the plane today! not compressed yet so nothing to post.

Thank god for those airplane power adapters. I just got the new MBP 2.6 and am ready to break it in this weekend.
Swift we doin' tacos tomorrow?

tacos next tuesday for sure. we'll hit the new place, they look out for a brother over there. i'm flying back from hawaii tomorrow night, get in at 6AM and then an 11AM flight to vegas. be back wed night at around 11pm!

sadly, that's a lie since kris no longer has a trunk. just a crappy SUV.

what happened to the lambo kris?

Hey the lambo had a "trunk" lol. That thing could fit my laptop bag and a pair of socks. I sold the lambo about two weeks ago. I drove the hell out of it for a few years and now it was time to move on.

Kris

lol i just remember Gary saying his stomach almost ended up in the back one time after you floored it with him riding shotgun.

Ask Swift I took his ass up to a quick 180+mph one night coming back from a gig in LA. I think he turned white....lol. J/k The rover is pretty fast too but tops out at 127mph.

hahaha yeah all that chrome wears that shit down. how's n-effect goin?

weighs*, not wears.

i'm pretty sure we hit 194mph on the 5fwy. careful though. does anyone remember that guy with a ferrari who videotaped himself going 200mph and posted it on the net. the cops gave him a ticket for going 200Mph, using the video he posted as evidence.

hahahaha pwned.

I don't get it! What are you doing in the video? I didn't see a mix? I seen a song on a song not sounding very good. but then my kids a sleep so I can't put up the vol. to loud...lol

but put up a mix when you have time. Thanks

Heres me playing around. Watchwww.youtube.com

Let me know what you really think. I was just really playing around.

it's cool marknonsense1 i can take it. pratice, practice practice on this video thing......lol But I get a great reaction from the audio cause it's a amp up song. but i do have to make the video tighter....lol

^^^ Well I'll be working on remixes soon if you want to PM the email. I'll hit you back with some.

thats whats up marknonsense1, i am gonna have to put a mix just to show my little skills....:)

Good attempt bro but heres a tip: A nice rnb song especially from Luther does not transition well with hip hoppers yelling in the background, an instrumental would have been better especially a nice rnb beat not a hip hop hype one, also make sure your keys of both songs are in the same key, many remixers forget that one, i hear them all the time mashups sound horrible mainly because the keys of the songs are not in sync these can easily be adjusted dependent on what software you use.....cheers...

the ante up instrumental is straight up easy to find also. i think i have, no, i know i have it on a brookyln's finest compilation.

Here's another:

www.vjaswift.com

Hey DJ WIZ, thanks for advice but when u can, if u are in nyc area go to 125th st. in harlem. a little music shop (THE MUSIC HUT) theY sell mix cds even old stuff from djs like kid capri and SnS OR RON G. PICK UP ANYTHING FROM 1991 OR 1992. THEY HAD SOME GREAT RNB MIXES WITH hiphop. it's big out here in the eastcoast. check it out if u can u will like it. THANKS for the critique very appreciated. peace.

a-swift that was smooth or in your case very SWIFT. lol

thanks, here's another i did today:

www.vjaswift.com

Dope! Fresh remix. Is there a legal way to obtain A-Swift video remixes at this time?

Whew! Thats mix is stupid dump retarded fresh!

Yea that genuis of London track always gets the old schoolers and new schoolers on the dance floor nice edit.

dope swift. you need to start your own website with your remixes.

YO A-swift was watching G4 tv and saw this wierd website of this woman hotforwords

www.hotforwords.com

The end of that video the editor of the video uses the same motion preset as the intro to your a-swift demo video. Of course your was done better.

Just funny watching tv. and I was like damm good use of motion lol.

Yeah man. That just means we were BOTH unoriginal since I didn't do that motion work and neither did they. It's a template that comes with motion so everyone has it.

Believe or not, I'm actually getting pretty good with making MY OWN shit in motion so LiveMix-3 should have some ridiculously fresh motion work!

yeah man, then i could start catching cases like crashvids

nice to hear cant wait

LOL!!! crooklyn clan has gotten away with it for years.

Heres the link for my reggaeton mix! Let me know what you think. . . Thanks!

Watchwww.youtube.com

Gotta agree with Austin.

yeah it does have issues but hell the FLUX-CAPACITATOR still got mike back to the future. Once you have bought it u are some what stuck cause u will not get your money back so i guess make due and roll with the punches