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Midi Mixer Capabilities for Serato Video With Itch

DJRemixEnt 2:19 PM - 2 March, 2012
So I hooked up my ttm57 with my numark v7's to try out the Itch 2.2 and Serato Video Beta. And the ttm57 did not work.

Is Itch going to be able to support the ttm57 for the use with V7's?
DeeJay Image 2:25 PM - 2 March, 2012
For that matter, any midi mapping going to be available for mixers to go with the V7's and Serato Video?

I have a Allen and Heath Xone 4D i'd like the option of mapping with my V7's...
Solidsnake 2:42 PM - 2 March, 2012
Not yet. Nothing other than the approved controllers for the time being.
Fuidawg 4:01 PM - 2 March, 2012
I was going to open a tkt as well for this same issue because the fader on the new SV can't be controlled by my mixer which is the DDM4000. I was looking on how if that can be done.

@DJRemixEnt how is the ttm57 working with Itch? do the effects on that mixer work with itch or just SSL since that mixer is for that software. I was looking at that mixer as well ..

I would have went with SSL if i hadn't bought those V7's which i like a lot but they are itch specific.
DJRemixEnt 4:22 PM - 2 March, 2012
no compatibility whatsoever with the ttm57 and itch. hooking up the ttm57 with the V7's made itch act crazy as hell, Itch kept crashing and the V7 platters started acting all funky. not a good combination...lol.

im kinda pissed i dropped over $1200 on the v7's and i cant even use the ttm57 to control Serato Video. If i had known this would have been the case, i woulda probably gotten an ns6 or ns7 or vci400

I currently use SSL and Mix Emergency for my gigs, but i have a gig at a bar where i use Virtual DJ because the space is too tight. I Have just enough room for 1 V7 and a mixer.

The V7 & ttm57 combo would be more ideal for this location.

I was gonna buy a 62 but seein that Serato dropped support for Mix Emergency, Im gonna wait untill that situation pans out until i purchase the new mixer.
Fuidawg 4:27 PM - 2 March, 2012
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no compatibility whatsoever with the ttm57 and itch. hooking up the ttm57 with the V7's made itch act crazy as hell, Itch kept crashing and the V7 platters started acting all funky. not a good combination...lol.

im kinda pissed i dropped over $1200 on the v7's and i cant even use the ttm57 to control Serato Video. If i had known this would have been the case, i woulda probably gotten an ns6 or ns7 or vci400

I currently use SSL and Mix Emergency for my gigs, but i have a gig at a bar where i use Virtual DJ because the space is too tight. I Have just enough room for 1 V7 and a mixer.

The V7 & ttm57 combo would be more ideal for this location.

I was gonna buy a 62 but seein that Serato dropped support for Mix Emergency, Im gonna wait untill that situation pans out until i purchase the new mixer.


Wow, GOOD to know about the V7's and ttm57's lol, good thing I didn't get them. Yes, the V7's works well with vdj especially with those effects. I'm looking around for a good mixer, but using a ddm and a numark x9 as a backup for now.. good info man.
DeeJay Image 4:31 PM - 2 March, 2012
This is probably why Numark dropped the price and gave a good rebate on V7's a few months ago..
dj-freestyle 4:47 PM - 2 March, 2012
ttm mixer will never support itch. itch is for all in one controllers. ttm has serato built in. two different things.
DJRemixEnt 4:51 PM - 2 March, 2012
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ttm mixer will never support itch. itch is for all in one controllers. ttm has serato built in. two different things.


im pretty sure it has nothing to do with Scratch Live being "built in"... the ttm57 is a midi mixer... all Serato has to do is incorporate midi communication in the software
Fuidawg 5:00 PM - 2 March, 2012
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ttm mixer will never support itch. itch is for all in one controllers. ttm has serato built in. two different things.


im pretty sure it has nothing to do with Scratch Live being "built in"... the ttm57 is a midi mixer... all Serato has to do is incorporate midi communication in the software


true that, the ddm4000 mixer has midi functions as well, but don't think these options are available from SV for the V7's and Itch so I can control the fader option etc ...
dj-freestyle 5:02 PM - 2 March, 2012
Ya but being that rane built the ttm for scratch live i cant see them every supporting itch. wont happen
dj-freestyle 5:02 PM - 2 March, 2012
and itch isnt midi so wont work
dj-freestyle 5:02 PM - 2 March, 2012
itch is a one to one program not midi.
DJRemixEnt 5:06 PM - 2 March, 2012
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Ya but being that rane built the ttm for scratch live i cant see them every supporting itch. wont happen


that mentality is ok for just spinning audio, but when you bring video into the mix, having that crossfader control thos transisiton makes a world of difference compared to hitting arrows on a keyboard.

this is something Serato seriously needs to consider now that Itch has video.

(hint hint.. i hope someone is listening) lol
DJRemixEnt 5:09 PM - 2 March, 2012
ive been hearing nothing but good reviews about that ddm4000, just sux that the mix cant do audio and midi at the same time (with out modding)...if behringer fixes that issue with their next mixer, i might buy one of those instead of dropping $2000 on a 62
DJRemixEnt 5:10 PM - 2 March, 2012
hell, i could buy four ddm4000's for the price of one 62
Fuidawg 5:12 PM - 2 March, 2012
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ive been hearing nothing but good reviews about that ddm4000, just sux that the mix cant do audio and midi at the same time (with out modding)...if behringer fixes that issue with their next mixer, i might buy one of those instead of dropping $2000 on a 62


It's been a good mixer, i've had it for a year now and it hasn't given me any problems [knock on wood] but time will tell. I just do school dances, weddings, parties, not in a club environment, but it's been good ... can't justify buying a $2000 mixer yet lol

but yea, hopefully we'll get a fix for this SV soon ...
DJRemixEnt 5:20 PM - 2 March, 2012
i really dont wanna use Serato Video... Im hooked on Mix Emergency, but untill Mix Emergency is supported in Itch (which i dont see happening anytime soon) i at least wanna get some of my $1200 worth of those V7's. they've been sitting and collecting dust for the longest now that i've been doing video.
dj-freestyle 7:40 PM - 2 March, 2012
I have a denon 1600 i paid 800 for that does both video , audio on mixer.
Solidsnake 11:28 PM - 2 March, 2012
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ttm mixer will never support itch. itch is for all in one controllers. ttm has serato built in. two different things.


im pretty sure it has nothing to do with Scratch Live being "built in"... the ttm57 is a midi mixer... all Serato has to do is incorporate midi communication in the software


Just a heads up, as far as I know, the 57 is actually not a MIDI mixer, it uses a proprietary protocol inside of Scratch Live to enable control, but as far as I know, you can not map it to other programs, unless that has changed over the past couple of years.
nik39 11:20 AM - 6 March, 2012
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you can not map it to other programs

Correct.
DJRemixEnt 10:05 PM - 6 March, 2012
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ttm mixer will never support itch. itch is for all in one controllers. ttm has serato built in. two different things.


im pretty sure it has nothing to do with Scratch Live being "built in"... the ttm57 is a midi mixer... all Serato has to do is incorporate midi communication in the software


Just a heads up, as far as I know, the 57 is actually not a MIDI mixer, it uses a proprietary protocol inside of Scratch Live to enable control, but as far as I know, you can not map it to other programs, unless that has changed over the past couple of years.


yeah... it's technically not labeled a midi mixer... more money down the drain...oh well
Youngtee 9:14 PM - 27 March, 2012
Will there be a mixer that can controll the video fader I'm on v7 and would like to use the video fader not the arrow keys that's just well suck
Fuidawg 9:50 PM - 27 March, 2012
from the forums it sounds like Serato needs to bring external midi control to the itch platform/software so that you midi-enabled external mixer 'will' work with Itch ... just neeed Serato to confirm that is the case ... I have V7's as well and will not buy the plugin till it works with the software ....
dj-freestyle 10:44 PM - 27 March, 2012
ya any midi mixer would. plenty out there
dj-freestyle 10:45 PM - 27 March, 2012
None with itch though. has to be a itch controller
dj-freestyle 10:47 PM - 27 March, 2012
I had to look at v7's to understand, now i get it. comes with itch but no mixer. they will make fader midi I'm sure for itch soon so you can use a mixer with them
DJRemixEnt 11:10 PM - 27 March, 2012
It would really suck if Serato left v7 itch users hanging with no midi mixer...

And now I see the v7 is discontinued...

The futures Not lookin too bright
Fuidawg 1:18 AM - 28 March, 2012
V7s ere discontinued? Great that means that there is no future us V7s users if wanna do videos? Lol, well if your just doing music then youre fine, I'm just upgrading to 2.2 so I can be updated to the software, but I don't think I'll be doing video for a while ...
Youngtee 6:43 AM - 28 March, 2012
Come on serato y'all aint gonna leave us v7's users hanging with the video help a brother out I love my v7's.
Eric N 4:28 PM - 28 March, 2012
V7 users... get a VCI-300 or a Twitch and use it as your mixer. Less than $500 and you will be good to go. The platters on your V7s will work, and so will all of the buttons on the other controller, apparently.

I don't have V7s to test it with, but videos on YouTube show it working...
DJRemixEnt 1:12 PM - 29 March, 2012
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V7 users... get a VCI-300 or a Twitch and use it as your mixer.


Eric N, I see what your saying, but spending another 500 bucks on a vci 300 is not practical. it really shouldnt have to come to us V7 users forking over more money for a new controller, when serato can pretty easily configure the ttm57 to work with itch.

if i bought a vci- controller, i'd prolly look into getting the VCI380. And if i got the VCI380, i prolly wouldnt use the V7's anymore.
DeeJay Image 1:18 PM - 29 March, 2012
Serato still stands by not using more than one controller at a time for Itch. Regardless of the videos you've seen.. it wasn't meant to be legit.. You run the risk of a crash or technical problem at a gig by trying it...
nik39 1:56 PM - 29 March, 2012
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Serato still stands by not using more than one controller at a time for Itch. Regardless of the videos you've seen.. it wasn't meant to be legit.. You run the risk of a crash or technical problem at a gig by trying it...

+1
Fuidawg 2:30 PM - 29 March, 2012
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V7 users... get a VCI-300 or a Twitch and use it as your mixer.


Yea not going to spend an extra $500 bucks for a second mix and if you ask me, this is the ugliest setup i've ever seen Watchwww.youtube.com lol ...

thanks but no thanks ....
Eric N 3:17 PM - 29 March, 2012
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V7 users... get a VCI-300 or a Twitch and use it as your mixer.


Eric N, I see what your saying, but spending another 500 bucks on a vci 300 is not practical. it really shouldnt have to come to us V7 users forking over more money for a new controller, when serato can pretty easily configure the ttm57 to work with itch.

if i bought a vci- controller, i'd prolly look into getting the VCI380. And if i got the VCI380, i prolly wouldnt use the V7's anymore.


Word, if you already have a 57 or another MIDI mixer, this obviously isn't an ideal solution. For anyone who DOESN'T yet, though, most decent "normal" MIDI-capable mixers will cost you about the same, though - and you get the added benefit of having a more portable setup for tight spaces...

Don't get me wrong though, I'd LOVE to see them add 57 capability and/or MIDI or iPad mapping for Itch. I'm just saying - there is a way to do it.
3en80n 12:31 AM - 31 March, 2012
ns6 users .... if u wanna play video, use vdj instead... you have all the controls working (buttons & faders) . mine is using volume faders and cross faders in switching video A to B just like you are mixing audio..... why vdj can do this and serato cannot?
phatbob 12:42 AM - 31 March, 2012
Itch CAN do that. Any all-in-one Itch controller allows you to fade audio and video simultaneously. It's the video fx and transition selection which can't be done via the controller.
dj-freestyle 11:05 PM - 1 April, 2012
Ns6 rocks video not sure what you are talking about. all those things work in itch.
Youngtee 9:50 AM - 4 April, 2012
come on sera to help us v7 user out with a midi fader or something like that ya dig
Ragin' Bajan 3:10 PM - 28 April, 2012
Numark needs to make their X5 Mixer so that it can control Itch. I think that would be a big help.
DJred24 9:48 PM - 29 April, 2012
itch certified mixer hmm.
Youngtee 11:06 PM - 16 May, 2012
Who wants to see the x5 revamped to control itch for video mixing

I DO!!!!!
Ragin' Bajan 7:54 PM - 17 May, 2012
Meeee Tooooo!!!!
Youngtee 7:19 PM - 20 May, 2012
V7 users need a midi mixer for video
Ragin' Bajan 11:58 PM - 20 May, 2012
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V7 users need a midi mixer for video

Nobody seems to be listening.
Guess the V7s weren't as successful as they thought they would be if they're truly discontinued.
phatbob 6:35 AM - 21 May, 2012
Serato are listening. In numerous help requests (which is where they normally respond) they've said that they are keen to add midi mapping to Itch. As always though, they won't suggest when or confirm it for sure.
Youngtee 6:48 AM - 21 May, 2012
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Serato are listening. In numerous help requests (which is where they normally respond) they've said that they are keen to add midi mapping to Itch. As always though, they won't suggest when or confirm it for sure.



I hope so man cause using they keys for the video fader is played out and really wack
DJRemixEnt 11:46 AM - 21 May, 2012
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Serato are listening. In numerous help requests (which is where they normally respond) they've said that they are keen to add midi mapping to Itch. As always though, they won't suggest when or confirm it for sure.



I hope so man cause using they keys for the video fader is played out and really wack



You Can Always Go With Scratch Live and Mixemergency
DJ_EQmixxx 6:37 PM - 16 November, 2012
I have the idea the "itch box" to midi map mixers to itch for fader support that is what should be done period! At least that