"gonna get"

I thought that's already happening.

***Waiting for the Good Times Dub Edit*****

But EDM is such a broad genre.. I thought I hear d&b about 3 times thru the show though..

but now even more of greedy corporate america has been exposed to it.

A better thread would have been :

I hereby dub this years Grammy Awards Show - The Adele Show.

Since she took all six of her nominations..
:)

can't be mad at Adele... she actually has talent

Yeah, but those nominees who didn't get any are probaly saying - "you could have given me at least one" - lol..

lol

Actually that should say ***Waiting for the Good Times DUBSTEP Edit*** :-D!

Actually that should say ***Waiting for the Good Times DUBSTEP Skrillex Mashup Edit*** :-D!

I can't stand adele's voice when she sings and I can't stand it ever more when she talks. Why don't singers from the UK sound like singers from the UK?

are you kidding me?

skrillex can't juggle, let alone juggle good times... don't worry JohnnyM I think you have him beat! (nm)

dude, look at Ozzy or even Led Zepplin... they all try to "sing" american but they still talk like a BLOKE! lol
#can't knock their hustle

back on topic...

-in the immortal words of Public Enemy:

"Who gives a fuck about a goddamn grammy!?"

Overall sucked, IMO. I was really only concerned with watching Adele and the Foo Fighters, both of which were good, Beach Boys tribute was good.

Nicki was cray, and I'm disappointed with her performance. She's becoming the GaGa of 'hip hop' and going more pop it seems, we don't need two of you.

Taylor Swift is talented no doubt, but she really looked like she was trying to be Pete Townshend on that banjo, and we get it, your wholesome, but you don't need to dress Little House on the Prairie all of the time, especially when you're sitting in the audience with what is most likely a very expensive dress.

Rihanna was Rihanna, need a video edit of that performance, so I can play We Found Love at high schools.

Coldplay was Coldplay, still makes me want to cut myself.

That 'Tribute to Dance Music' or whatever the hell they called it was pretty shitty. I already saw Chris Brown lip sync and dance around earlier, overall could probably have been waaaay more creative with the Foo Fighters, Deadmau5 is still a douche.

Everything else (Bruce, Paul) is what I would expect

i didnt even watch it

lol @ 'that shit cray'.

lol

aint that dead yet?

Yup. Foo Fighters killed it although Dave looked and performed like he was drunk during the Deadmau5 portion...haha. Also it seemed like Adele was not 100% into it during her performance.

Not to say Adele's performance wasn't good. I am just curious if she is fully recovered yet.

OK People, back on topic. This thread is about the future of EDM after the Grammy's, not a recap of the whole shitty awards show

I thought this too, she seemed to be holding back just a tiny bit on the hook.



The future is certain, 2 more years of upbeat, then back to 70 bpm.

Sure. Sorry about that.

Corporations have already been exploiting it and making money off of it for awhile. Diplo and those two freaky looking latin dudes on the blackberrry commercials, khia using LMFAO, etc. The list goes on and on.

On that note I hope dubstep is dead. Always hated it.

I did want to mention that i thought it was hilarious that immediately following Dave Grohls semi-rant about making real music that they cut to the Party Rock Anthem music bed. Haha

dubstep is not dead - it's just going to be the new electro - the sound the pop industry will rape for ideas 3 or 4 years after it's already peaked globally in the underground.

*Records broken printer sounds on SL1*

If skrillex can win a grammy, then I will take over the world with this!

that was the grammy's last night? shit was more like a life alert commercial!

yes serious I can't stand adele, here and that crying bitch bruno mars need to make a track together about love and shit.

sadly, this.

please, god, no...

I thought she was holding back on the regular singing parts... kind of lacking passion and soul, unlike the regular song. She belted out the hooks pretty well to me. She seemed like someone gave her a Valium.

I swear you bastards have A.D.D.
None of you can stay on subject..lol

Well, this guarantees that Justin Bieber dubstep album, for sure now ;)

off topic.... did u no 31 categories were cut from the grammys this year??? for what... to make room for nick minaj, rihanna & breezy.....???????????????

Don't think they've shown ALL of the awards live in some time, if ever.

It's dead. All about Orchestra remixes now.

I dunno if EDM can get much more commercial than it already is lol. Pay attention to commercials, TV show opening credits, etc - "underground sounds" are the background bumpers to everything already.

(showing my age here) I remember in the late 90s when Prodigy, Crystal Method, Fatboy Slim etc. were all blowing up on Alternative Rock stations. Rolling Stone, SPIN, and just about everyone else all predicted that EDM (specifically, "Big Beat" like Fatboy Slim) was going to be the next top40 supergenre and take over the mainstream clubs etc etc.

Shit DID NOT happen, the later 90s and most of the 2000s were all about hip hop and R&B, with a few decent rock songs every year. At least around here, the "ooh rave culture is trendy" balloon popped in the early 2000s and drove fans of this music back underground for many years. There has always still been an EDM scene, but it never took hold of the mainstream as predicted... until the last couple of years.

Now Chris Brown is doing 128bpm tracks, David Guetta is re-hashing chord progressions from classic 90s rave records, and you can hear "oontz oontz" music on most top40 stations in most major markets. I'd say that the mainstream sellout is already in FULL force, it just took 12-13 years longer to hit than the music analysts expected. :)

i think this is as commercial as it will ever get. i dont think non-vocal edm songs will ever be huge hits in america.

My prediction is the backlash will start by 2013 and rock will make a comeback. (FYI I dont really like rock)

Funny, I have been thinking the same. I did an all '90s night not too long ago and was thinking about the MASSIVE number of rock tunes that were out (and popular to the masses) back then. After "grunge" died out, shit just got really stale and I haven't been into much of the rock that came out from 2000 on - and I was BIG into rock back in the 90s. I try to listen to the new stuff that comes out, but none of it really does anything for me.

I, for one, would welcome a rock resurgence with some actual good music, lyrics with substance, great chord progressions and solos, etc. Sadly, what it will likely be is more like the Korn/Skrillex hybrid shit that is coming out now...

There is plenty of good rock and alternative out now. How far will it crossover...not sure. I am just glad that Foo Fighters got award recognition with their latest album.

And I agree...I am definitely not feeling the Korn/Skrillex stuff.

I hope so. I have a pretty substantial audio and video library ready to go...haha

Rock Audio & Video library.

OH NO, you didn't just say that! Our tastes in rock must differ, but that's OK. I haven't liked really any of the Foo stuff since the first album (but to be fair, I haven't heard all of the new one).

There may be lots of rock technically "out" right now, but you can't deny that it's not like it was in the 90s - when rock/alternative was either on par with or maybe MORE popular than "urban top40". I'm in Seattle too, though, maybe it wasn't the same elsewhere lol.

I am a fan of Dave's work in general but the Foo's latest album was better than their last couple had some great mainstream hits. I will agree that it is not as good as their first album (which was all Dave anyway) but it is enjoyable none the less.

As far as other stuff, I am a fan of a lot of the indie rock stuff and whatever gets peoples heads bobbing. I am not sure if we will ever have another era like the 90s for rock/alternative or even hip hop for that matter but I am always on the lookout for new stuff.

Oh, no...it was! 90's Rock was all around GREAT !

The Verve, Hum, Sunny Day Real Estate, Fugazi, Jawbreaker, Pennywise, Rancid, Dinosaur Junior, Luscious Jackson, Mazzy Star, Pavement, Radiohead, Oasis, The Cure, Velocity Girl, Sonic Youth, Ride, Pearl Jam, NOFX, The Breeders, Tool, Deftones.....man, I could go on forever!!!!

I don't think Rock will EVER be that good again.....just like I don't think Hip.Hop will be as good as it was in the 90's to early 2000's, either. I think music is doomed in general...LOL!

You said Sunny Day Real Estate and NOFX! Triple like. :)

Well, except for Microfunk DnB, Future Garage, Minimal Techno, Post Dubstep, Deep & Tech House, and Breaks.....those genres appear to be releasing masterpiece, after masterpiece lately.

Funny I've spent the last 2 years digging into 90s rock I like a lot of it

And so it continues... Just like I said. Mansion in Miami kicked Dennis Ferrer off the decks for not playing "commercial enough"
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about half those groups listed have roots in the 80s.

quit jackin my thread talkin about rock music. This thread is about EDM, if you wanna talk about rock go start your own damn thread...lol

'the death of edm' analysis was pretty short sighted. it would be more like the 'intro of edm to middle america' would be more like it.

edm and dj shows are the direction of music like it or not. it started with hip hop, which essentially, is "electronic music''.

the key here is money. edm is cheaper and easier for any record company to promote and sell than a band. end of story.

Could you clarrify the distinction

maybe I should change it to the deathc of quality EDM then

well, its not going anywhere. its like when hip hop hit its pop apex with hammer/vanilla ice in hip hop. everyone said it was dead, then within 5 years, it spawned the greatest albums of its history.

there will always be underground and commerical artists. as much as we hate the commercial artists, it makes the overall scene bigger and therefore more likely to be able to support underground artists and venues. yin and yang. with the demise of paying for music, the extra dough for underground artists actually makes a difference to further the cause of non-formulaic, heavily major label promoted acts to stay around.

and where is hip-hop now? stuck with a bunch of crap

well, theres some decent hip hop out there. and we all get a case of 'back in the day' syndrome.

i wish black moon, wu tang, beatnuts, and big l were still in rotation, but thats not reality. i think one person said it best when they said if hip hop didnt change, it would turn into jazz, meaning it would be completely irrelevant and formulaic(even though jazz is not formulaic by nature).

i've seen the new underground of edm, and its pretty dope and has nothing to do with the sound of guetta/deadmau5/shm/skrillex.

I've always been into underground EDM. But like I said, with stuff like big clubs booking known House producer/dj like Dennis Ferrer and then kicking him off the decks for not playing commercial enough

but its a commercial bottle service club. do you think he took the gig for the love of music or money? he knows whats to be expected in those places, and as dj for many years, he should know club owners/mgmt and what they expect or how idiotic they can act. i've heard(personally talked to, i book djs) of much bigger more popular acts getting kicked off in vegas, but they didnt tweet about it. if you play with fire.....

sorry, but if a venue books a big name dj/producer then they should know what to expect and expect that person to change up their style to satisfy the venue. You don't go to McDonald's and or a Whopper

that's true, but the height of their work was in the 90's!!!!

if i was ferrer and managment came up to me at mansion.id go to my yonny crate real quick and drop turn up the music.management would then leave and id go back to my regular set.

So if a Hip Hop venue were to book the Foo Fighters then they should be expected to rap?

And in reality who did this whole thing harm more...the club or the DJ? What to say that a lot of big name EDM DJs are now saying F that place. I don't want to DJ there if I have to play what the management wants.

not true.

EDM? You must mean HOUSE. Everything else is cheese.

I suppose that's a matter of opinion, and yours is wrong ....LOL ;)

The Verve - "Northern Soul" (1995)
Hum - "You'd Prefer an Astronaut" (1995)
Sunny Day Real Estate - "Diary" (1994)
Fugazi - "In on the Kill Taker" (1993)
Jawbreaker - "24 Hour Revenge Therapy" (1994)
Pennywise - "Unknown Road" (1993)
Rancid - "...And Out Come the Wolves" (1995)
Dinosaur Junior - "Green Mind" (1991)
Luscious Jackson - "Natural Ingredients" (1994)
Mazzy Star - "So Tonight That I Might See" (1993)
Pavement - "Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain" (1994)
Radiohead - "OK Computer" (1997)
Oasis - "Definitely Maybe" (1994)
The Cure - I'll give you this one..."Wish" (1993) was great, but "Disintegration" (1989) was their Best IMO.
Velocity Girl - "Copacetic" (1993)
Sonic Youth - "Dirty" (1992)

Whoops......forgot about these -

Ride - "Going Blank Again" (1992)
Pearl Jam - "Ten" (1991)
NOFX - "White Trash, Two Heebs, & a Bean" (1992)
The Breeders - "Last Splash" (1993)
Tool - "Undertow" (1993)
Deftones - "Around the Fur" (1997)

Possibly the dumbest thing ive seen on this forum

agreed.

What makes you think that these established Dj/producers who have been touring for years based on their specific style and sound even have any mainstream garbage on their laptops?

Just like the jazzy Jeff situation, this is all on the venue and promoter for being ignorant of the Djs they book.

EDM all day.

eat sleep.....EDM!!!

eatsleepEDM.com

Meh'......your DnB section is weak!

Though your PopStep section is quite strong.......imagine that!!!

sorry!! we'll be adding more DnB this week.

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when people say things such as the op, what genre of music would you predict would be next as the rising culture or newly most requested?
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