A pair of qsc K12 and paired with a Sub

what he said. dont forget to shop deep online . gc will most likely yo price match

i here these qsc sound awesome but lack any kind of decent bass and almost have to pair them with matching subs witch can cost a lot also but i will check these out cause i like the looks of these a lot....

there are a few threads with answers to your speaker questions.

look into rcf's, jbl prx's, ev's.

i been looking at the rcf line and was wondering bout the rcf 315a speakers....how good are these....

New Yamaha powered dx series.

are they affordable...???

any 12 inch speaker will not provide enough bass for more than 100 people w/o a sub honestly.

The nice part though is if you do have a sub, you only have to bring 12 inch speakers to smaller events instead of lugging 15 inch speakers even when it's overkill...

there is a certain site that has a payment plan for 12 months that might help you out. that way you dont buy some weak gear that isnt going to last for the long haul. qsc is the way to imo light, bright & the right price

what is the name of the site ?

American Musical

thanks...

I got these about a month ago. I don't do many mobile gigs, but figured I'd get a solid pair of speakers. I got them on eBay for about 850.00 the pair. I had a pair of Mackie Thumps before these so it was a nice upgrade. My thoughts:

- VERY loud and very clear
- Light weight
- Great build quality
- They sound better louder
- Sound carries well, will not distort at peak volumes

cons
- low end is not that great, especially in low volumes
- thumps had a better lows at low volumes

Even with no sub I played a party recently and the pure loudness and clarity was enough to carry and fill the room. For the price --- I think they're worth it.

thanks for the info i think im gonna narrow it down to rcf 315a and the ev elx115

This sounds like an honest review, thanx. I've read that the RCF315's don't pack much bass even for a 15" speaker. To say they have less low end than the Thumps at lower volumes speaks 'volumes'. I have a pair of 312A's and yes, they sound plenty good but a sub is needed for rooms larger than a living room and when playing dance music.


I think you'll find the EV's having more of a full/low-end bass sound overall. Stand-alone (w/o subs) they'd probably be a better choice than the RCF 315A's. You'll probably think the RCF's are more vocal oriented and have better musical clarity. Knowing the RCF's are Made in Italy, have always been associated with great quality and your in-the-future sub purchase is a guarantee, I'd say, get the RCF's. You'll be disappointed when it's time to buy a sub and your EV ELX choice, the 118P, lacks royally. Yes, they're one of the cheapest powered subs out there but you'll need to double up on them just to get the punch you'll desire. I've seen many opinions on the ELX sub and most people think they lack balls (nm) or sound hollow'ish. Keep in mind the RCF subs are pricey from $1000-$1500 each.

Now if you choose the ELX115P's now and choose another brand of sub in the future, that may be the route to go.

Now if you choose the ELX115P's now and choose another brand of sub in the future, that may be the route to go.


thats what i was thinking cause i will be getting a good deal on the EV elx 115s im getting them for $535 each brand new and like i said i will be buying a sub later on so i can save up and get a real decent one thanks

Yeah I was hoping they had a little better low end, because I don't plan on ever getting a sub. I don't do many mobile gigs. The sound quality is superb, though.

Wondering if I can insulate the inside of the box to enahnce the low end a bit?

whats a good price for the rcf 312as i will be getting them for $460 each is this good or bad and the rcf sub is $999 let me know any thoughts on this set up and if its worth the money

www.ebay.com @ $399 each.
Authorized dealer too..

@ Gaffle, how does the rcf 312 compare to the ev elx 115p.

The ELX115P's sound more full as far as low-end deep bass. The ELX sounds more like a well rounded, stand-alone speaker due to this. They have a 15" driver vs. the RCF's 12" driver so this is to be expected. I feel the RCF's sound a little more vocal oriented. It would be interesting to hear the comparison between an ELX112P and an ART312A. That's a more apples-to-apples, 12" vs. 12" speaker comparison.

The reason i asked is i can get the exl115p for the same price as the exl 112p or the art312a. I already have a pair of art312a too.

Gaffle, translate this spec on the RCF for me... "•350 Watt bi-amplification" is that a total of 700 with 350 going to the bass and 350 up top? Seems like most of the stuff i have considered is more in the 1000 range

do the JBL EON II's compare to these as all?

50 watts to the high 300 to the woofer. As far as everything else you're looking into, many companies use these 1000 watts speakers stuff for marketing. The numbers are really inflated.

I can tell you I have A/Bed the QSC K12 with 1,000 watts and the RCF art312 with 350 watts. The RCF got just as loud and sounded better doing it then the 1,000 watt QSC. If you just look at the watts you would think its not possible. I think everyone is hung up on this 1,000 watt as the standard of what to go by.

Exactly. Marketing hype.
Look at these "1000 watt" speakers.
www.amazon.com

Ding ding!

No marketing fluff from RCF on these speakers.

right on thanks guys rcf looks to be the winner now i need a sub or 2...lol

@gaffle can these guys be trusted on ebay i mean i bought stuff off of ebay and always got what i paid for i guess would be the way to go i got quoted a price today for $1401 for 2 rcf 312as and a gemini sub gvs 15 i know i know sub is probably junk but i was just gonna use for a hot minute till i save enough cash for a rcf sub...

TMS are the people I bought my RCF312A's from. Just insure the auction says NEW and not refurbished. Not saying refurbs are bad but you should receive a NEW pair for that $399 each price.

As far as that package deal... if it were my loot, I'd wait it out.

$1401 = pair RCF 312A's + 1 Gemini sub (full-range system... you've got some low-end but don't attempt to go long term with this sub and get much in return if you sell it. I'm not too sure about Gemini's reliability. They've always been associated with cheaper quality products).
or
$800 = pair RCF 312A's (you'll be stuck doing house parties, wedding ceremonies (not receptions) only or small pool parties w/o a sub. You'll have to rent or borrow a sub w/ only 2 tops)
or
$2300 = pair of RCF 312A's + 1 RCF 718A (full-range system... you've got some good quality low end and would be good to go if you add another RCF 718A sub for even larger events. Resale value would be very good on these. A quality product).
or
$2200 = pair of RCF 312A's + Yorkville LS801PB (full-range system... you've got some great/pounding low end and would be good to go if you add another Yorkville sub for even larger events. Resale value would be very very good on these as they are highly sought after. A quality product).

^^ I think those are great options.

Keep in mind if you go the Yorkville sub route, that sub is very big and very heavy. So you may need help moving it around, in and out of a truck/van, up and down steps if needed. I personally went with the RCF 718, it doesn't get as loud as the york, but it does sound better and it is lighter and easier for 1 person to carry around. Plus I like the RCF covers because they cover the entire speaker and you can even play with the covers still on. I like this feature for doing outdoor parties to help keep your gear protected.

LS801 isn't that big....but it booms hard for the money. You will need help going up/down stairs. I had a set for years though since sold them and now use the 2100p's. I beat the piss out of the 801's, (back then 800) --limiters on all night for 5 years and they never skipped a beat.

I was doing a huge Indian wedding and finally blew a woofer but replaced it myself for like 200 bucks. Got 1300 for the set when I sold them to a small club that still uses them with no problems...speakers now 8 years old.

thanks for the info i will stick with the rcf sub i like matching equipment good info here guys thanks for the help...

Any thoughts on the JBL EON 2's compared to these?

they are light =) sound is good... but i like the PRX and Yamaha's more for sound

+1 prx or yamaha

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