Serato Video General Discussion

Talk about Serato Video and Video-SL.

just started video mixing and ME running very slow

djcruise 8:28 PM - 25 January, 2012
i just got ME and i outputted the video to my tv via hdmi but when i connect it to my computer and i go to preferences and set the output to the tv my computer becomes very very slow....

macbook pro
2.3 ghz
8 gig ram
lion
tomatoslice 8:47 PM - 25 January, 2012
make sure you have you mac optimized.

are your videos on an external or internal?

what i find is the issue most often is;
1) heat...so check your temps.
2) the videos...where did you get them?


post here too www.inklen.com
you will get a good and fast response.
djcruise 8:53 PM - 25 January, 2012
how do i optimize my mac?

external

temps are normal

xtendamix.
Joshua Carl 9:06 PM - 25 January, 2012
I always RUN smc fan control whenever I do videos...its free.
crank it up.

Ive heard, in the past that the 8gb ram model macs have had issues with VSL, but I dont know about ME...
I know someone actually pulled 4gb of ram out, and it worked like butter.
Millz 9:07 PM - 25 January, 2012
<---I pulled my 2 x 4gb ram sticks out and ran 2 x 2gb ram sticks and had better performance.

Mind, this was about 2 years ago.
Joshua Carl 9:32 PM - 25 January, 2012
I didnt wanna speak for ya ;)

if he is running a 2.3 MBP, its probably a 08-10 model
Millz 9:37 PM - 25 January, 2012
mines an 08 model
DjBoozie 9:54 PM - 25 January, 2012
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I didnt wanna speak for ya ;)

if he is running a 2.3 MBP, its probably a 08-10 model

I use a 2008 with 4 gigs and mine runs great... I would suggest you drop your buffers as low as you can in ME and SSL... that usually does the trick
tomatoslice 10:06 PM - 25 January, 2012
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how do i optimize my mac?



well, it's pretty much optimized from the startup.
just make sure you don't have a bunch of other items running.
it's recommended to turn off bluetooth and airport but frankly, i have never had them cause problems.
just run only what you have to run.

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<---I pulled my 2 x 4gb ram sticks out and ran 2 x 2gb ram sticks and had better performance.

Mind, this was about 2 years ago.

and what Millz said.
tomatoslice 10:08 PM - 25 January, 2012
oh yea, and RUN
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I always RUN smc fan control whenever I do videos...its free.
crank it up.
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that too. it helps me a lot.
but i have an older mbp. not sure how well the new ones dissipate heat.
Joshua Carl 10:12 PM - 25 January, 2012
I guess the mac is suppsed to know when its too hot.

Ive been at gigs where Ive forgot to enable it,. and I note my waveforms and videos arent perfectly smooth...
one click, 30 seconds later... butter
Joshua Carl 10:12 PM - 25 January, 2012
plus u touch that upper left corner, and scald your palm
Dj Nyce 12:04 AM - 26 January, 2012
i have a late 2011 2.4 mbp 17 with the 512 ssd. i just 16gb of ram in there. fast is an understatement.

op, fill out your profile so we know what you're working with (pause) or post your specs here.
DJMark 12:15 AM - 26 January, 2012
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i just got ME and i outputted the video to my tv via hdmi but when i connect it to my computer and i go to preferences and set the output to the tv my computer becomes very very slow....

macbook pro
2.3 ghz
8 gig ram
lion


I'm going to guess one of two things:

1) You have the external screen set to a high resolution (try lowering it);
2) You're making the classic newbie mistake of running Video-SL at the same time as ME.
djcruise 12:19 AM - 26 January, 2012
i disable vsl....im gonna try the ram thing and the fan thing....do you guys recommend running the videos on a internal drive??
tomatoslice 12:23 AM - 26 January, 2012
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i disable vsl....


you don't need to do that. it will make no change, unless you were running vsl at the same time. do not run VSL and ME at the same time. it's not at all necessary.
lol...oddly, not knowing any better when i first got ME like 3 years ago i actually did run the 2 at once.

from what i have read it's better to have files on the internal but you should be fine on an external. firewire is preferable.
Joshua Carl 12:45 AM - 26 January, 2012
FIREWIRE PWOWERED 7200 RPM is Ideal.

I get away with a GoFlex 1.5TB Port-Powered with the FW800 Adapter and its been money.

though, when I used the WD 2.0 TB firewire 800 @ 7200 I will say that track load is maybe
1 second faster...but its still very very fast.
IE WD takes .75 seconds, Goflex take 1.5 seconds,

If your videos are from xtendamix your 2nd resultion show be somewhere in the 640x360/640x480 range...
Depending what you plug into your display port you will get Different options.
another thing I heard years back was you 2nd display Refresh Rate should not match your screens refresh rate (Usually 60 and 60) I do 60 & 70
djpuma_gemini 1:04 AM - 26 January, 2012
make sure VSL is not on as well.
djcruise 9:25 PM - 3 February, 2012
another thing my hard drive space is fullish you think that would be a big factor? my computer runs fine with everything running its just when i plug the hdmi cable into the computer and then it starts getting slow.
DJ Tecniq 9:49 PM - 3 February, 2012
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another thing my hard drive space is fullish you think that would be a big factor? my computer runs fine with everything running its just when i plug the hdmi cable into the computer and then it starts getting slow.
yes..delete some stuff and make more room. that is a huge factor. my 500 gigs are almost up on my mac. I have found vsl to run smoother than ME but that's just my preference or could be to low disk space my drive was pretty full.
djcruise 9:51 PM - 3 February, 2012
i have about 30 gigs free...
DJ Tecniq 9:54 PM - 3 February, 2012
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i have about 30 gigs free...
damn then that should be plenty..When i download the demo for ME i noticed it performed sluggish it is very slow compared to VSL. I think ME works alot harder on the computer than VSL. Me is dope but I see a big difference in the two.
djcruise 9:57 PM - 3 February, 2012
my waves in serato are SLOW and CHOPPY
DJCrank 11:43 PM - 3 February, 2012
Man for some reason my HDMI use to slow my system down, when I switched to VGA, runs smooth as hell. When I had the HDMI for i could easily tell the difference because the dials in Serato seem to tick like a watch instead of running smoothly.
DJ Tecniq 11:46 PM - 3 February, 2012
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Man for some reason my HDMI use to slow my system down, when I switched to VGA, runs smooth as hell. When I had the HDMI for i could easily tell the difference because the dials in Serato seem to tick like a watch instead of running smoothly.
I wonder why. That's wierd but I've heard that from others. With VGA my waveforms are very smooth.
djcruise 11:46 PM - 3 February, 2012
i have to go from hdmi to a converter to rca then tv,
DJCrank 11:53 PM - 3 February, 2012
I have a gig this weekend where the only port I can access at the party will be HDMI, I sure hope it goes well.
DjBoozie 12:11 AM - 4 February, 2012
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i have about 30 gigs free...
damn then that should be plenty..When i download the demo for ME i noticed it performed sluggish it is very slow compared to VSL. I think VSL works alot harder on the computer than ME. Me is dope but I see a big difference in the two.

Fixed!!..
Actually ME Uses less resources the VSL. That's why it'll run smoother.. All you need to do with ME is "LOWER THE BUFFER"
djcruise 12:42 AM - 4 February, 2012
the cache?
DJ DisGrace 12:54 AM - 4 February, 2012
try lowering the resolution on the second screen to 800x600. If you're going to a component signal anything bigger than that is overkill. Your laptop is working hard to output a 1900x1200 image for no reason, slowing everything down.

also make sure your mac is set to "higher performance" instead of "better battery life"
DjBoozie 1:11 AM - 4 February, 2012
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the cache?

Yes.. and on Serato too.. your basically tell your computer to use more resources then need to.. that's why you getting choppy wave forms
DJCrank 2:38 PM - 4 February, 2012
Can someone post a screen shot of their buffer and cache settings in ME and VSL.
DjBoozie 3:18 PM - 4 February, 2012
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ME Screenshot
DjBoozie 3:20 PM - 4 February, 2012
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Serato SCREENSHOT
DJCrank 1:20 AM - 6 February, 2012
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ME Screenshot


Ok, i am totally clueless now. I have been setting my Cache at 2gig or halfway between 1gig and 2 gig. I gotta go try and see if there is a major difference. I also have the 2 boxes checked on the screen.

The image overlay screen I dont even know how to load items on there or how to get them to play. Yeah I know I need to spend more time trying to figure and get the most out of ME. I have had it over a year and still only know the basics.

I was playing last night and my videos looked like they were choppy and not smooth at all.
DJCrank 1:22 AM - 6 February, 2012
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try lowering the resolution on the second screen to 800x600. If you're going to a component signal anything bigger than that is overkill. Your laptop is working hard to output a 1900x1200 image for no reason, slowing everything down.

also make sure your mac is set to "higher performance" instead of "better battery life"


How do you set to higher performance?
DJCrank 1:24 AM - 6 February, 2012
I left my equipment in the truck last night, going to go get it now to try to check the performance with the cache set lower.
DJ DisGrace 1:32 AM - 6 February, 2012
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try lowering the resolution on the second screen to 800x600. If you're going to a component signal anything bigger than that is overkill. Your laptop is working hard to output a 1900x1200 image for no reason, slowing everything down.

also make sure your mac is set to "higher performance" instead of "better battery life"


How do you set to higher performance?


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ME Screenshot


Ok, i am totally clueless now...

I have had it over a year and still only know the basics.


I just googled "how do I set mac to higher performance instead of better battery life"

www.google.co.uk

you gotta try to help yourself a little, man... better to learn how to do it than just get spoonfed answers. it will benefit you in the long rong.
DJCrank 2:57 AM - 6 February, 2012
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you gotta try to help yourself a little, man... better to learn how to do it than just get spoonfed answers. it will benefit you in the long rong.


Actually I did search, the reason I couldnt find anything is because I have a 13" Mac book. I think its for the 15" and 17" Mac. but thanks for your help anyway.
DJ DisGrace 3:01 AM - 6 February, 2012
yea it crossed my mind that you may have a 13... sorry
DJMark 7:17 AM - 6 February, 2012
What resolution do you have the external screen set for??

Recent-generation 13-inch MacBook Pros should run ME fine, but not if the external screen resolution is set to something high. (Anything over 600x800, and probably 640x480 or "480p" is a better idea.)

System Preferences/Displays....and the "gather windows" button in there is a huge help (otherwise you're trying to change settings on screens you may not be able to see that well).

ME is actually more critical than VSL about what resolution the external screen is set.
phatbob 10:51 AM - 6 February, 2012
I always run my 13" at 640x480.

No point going bigger if your videos are only that size anyway.
DJCrank 1:52 PM - 6 February, 2012
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I always run my 13" at 640x480.

No point going bigger if your videos are only that size anyway.


What do you have your cache settings at.

I wish I could get the videos to play on a external screen the way they look on my laptop. The quality is definitely not the same. Back to the garage to do some more tweaking.
Joshua Carl 3:48 PM - 6 February, 2012
Smc fan control as well!!!! Wide open!