Don't know if I'd trust those, almost non-existent logo or not, but I love the EAW line arrays at one of the spots I play at regularly.

Same here... I think line arrays "look" cool but they seem like too much trouble for your average mobile DJ.

Behringer Line Array ?
Im at a loss for words right now.......:)
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lol...yea, i no

i don't even think we need arrays as dj's, thats concert gear, for covering many angles

I have nothing against Behringer, but unless you're playing for thousands - and when I say thousands I mean at least over ten - line arrays are a waste of time. Who's gonna pay for thousands of pounds/dollars worth of trussing (not to mention the time/crew you'll need to array them) then load it up with Behringer? It's laughable.

lol @ oxymoron

I think they're ground stackable to the subs so one could have an array of several tops over a couple of subs. I have read that the price is extremely cheap at only $600 - $900 per unit on the tops.

I don't think that's necessarily the case--line array coverage is pretty awesome for all sorts of environments--but agree with you regarding the potential setup hassle.

Like when? Just use point of source. All I can see the average person getting out of these is comb filtering.

Imagine if it actually sounds good and kicks ass!!! That would be some weird shit!

I'm certainly no expert but I trust my ears--the spot I mentioned earlier that has an EAW line array setup has them planted all over the ceilings and the sound spreads nicely. It's a bowling alley/lounge/restaurant/club so it's a really big space yet the sound is more even than most dedicated night clubs.

Maybe I sound like a total retard but my perception was that part of the major advantage of line array speakers was that if you can see it, you can hear it clearly.

Sounds like they had the benefit of competent system design/installation. It's a lot more critical for line arrays than it is for more conventional speaker types.

And it makes Behringer's entry rather strange, because if you're paying the considerable $ for good system design and installation, you're probably not likely to be skimping on the actual speakers.

Wonder whos design they ripped off?

Watchwww.youtube.com

They're speakers look really small. (nm)

LOL.......it's tour grade, i can see it now all the big name artist will be using it for there shows.........LOL

They're = their

One of the saddest days of my life as an audio guy was hearing that Behringer bought Midas. Seeing their line arrays at Namm was probably my second.

I am the Product Manager for Live Sound at Music Group (Behringer, Midas, Klark Teknik). I absolutely appreciate and hear your concerns. First off, I apologize for the video. I had a bout with Rotavirus at NAMM and was not myself.

Here's the skinny. Over the past 2 years, we have added over $20 million in automation to our production lines and hired some of the best engineers and product development talent around. We recognize that we've made mistakes in the past, but we ABSOLUTELY are dedicated to showing the world that we are the future of live sound and concert audio. The ELX systems are just the begining. We have done endless quality testing and acoustic design engineering to match the great look of these products.

For a mobile DJ for both small to large events, the ELX line arrays are an excellent choice. They have excellent coverage patterns as well as excellent frequency range. This is due to our new kevlar coned neodymium drivers that are full of life due to their unique design. Also, you can drive them hard without flapping them out or choking out the highs.

We will be doing launch events world wide with these. I invite each one of you to come check them out. I'll make sure to post here the dates and times.

If you have any Live Sound questions, let me know! DJ, I can't answer those, but I can definitely get you to the right guy.

Damn just typed a long response and then your website crashed my iPhone browser ha.

In short: thanks for the post and glad to hear you're committed to a new level of quality, but if you want to be perceived as pro grade you have to take into account that a lot of us are stubborn and have heard your admitted mistake product lines in the past...you'd have to launch these under a different boutique brand name to even get some people to take a look.

^+1 - its really about word of mouth and personal experience, which is why most flock to these forums and ask questions about gear (look at all the speaker battle threads). I haven't had any experience with your new line of products, but i also haven't had anyone tell me how great it is. Now a days when people invest there money in equipment and are taking it seriously they want the best they can afford and do often do a lot of research. This place is great because of the diversity of people, anywhere from novice bedrooms dj's to average mobile guys, to serious mobile dj's, club djs, and pro's alike. There word is gold because most have one on one experience with a lot of different equipment. Unfortunately when most of us here Behringer its associated with low to mid level equipment, the mixers are beginner at best and the audio equipment is really a stepping stone to pro level.

You guys should really invite/host some type of event where people can have hands on time or post vids of some reliability test/how much abuse the amps and speakers can take. I mean those new amps look nice and the weight factor is really great to, but i don't think id ever go out of my way to buy those for a serious mobile rig.

@Sacralicious - Thank you very much for the input. I again completely understand. I don't necessarily want people to simply take my word for it. You don't know me from Adam, and I haven't done anything to prove to you yet. I look forward to staying connected with this forum, and others.

@djdalite - You are correct. We need to get this gear into people's hands. I will let everyone know when and where these events take place.

To all, thanks and feel free to reach out to me anytime at jonathan.mccune@music-group.com

Has Uli Behringer undergone some sort of personal transformation that has given him a sense of ethics?

Sorry, but we're talking about a guy who blatantly and shamelessly ripped off other companies' product designs for many years, and churned out cheap copies. In the process, causing damage to the companies that had actually spent resources for the product development/R&D.

It's going to be **very** difficult for many audio professionals to take that company seriously given the long history.

^^^ right there + I'm sure 100% of their product is Mad in China. (no typo correction)

What happened to this...


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no point coming back if said user is too knowledgeable of companies product history.....:)

Behringer = Is a "Joke" in English.

Wrong!!!
Behringer is German and when translated it's meaning is Cheap CopyCat.

Also translated as ... my first mixer! :)

I think some of the haters are starting to see a transformation beginning with the x32.

It looks like Carvin has some competition in the line array game! Lol

If you're referring to haters/dislikers of Behringer... that company earned their low-tier reputation. That new transformation... good for them but it'll take a minute before I'd consider their speakers for purchase. I probably wouldn't though as long as an EV, RCF, JBL and Danley Sound Labs exists.

Every time Behringer comes out with some "new" product, there's someone around gullible enough to believe the company is "transforming".

Been hearing that kind of nonsense for over 20 years now. LOL 1994/2014.

Considering the companies they now own (Midas, Turbosound, Klark Teknik, etc.) I have no problem listening to their products with an open mind. I was hoping to check out their powered speakers at the last NAMM but they weren't connected. The line array was working but the volumes were too low to get a sense of the capabilities of the cabinets.

@Rebelguy, don't you own KV2 stuff?

I will say this, in europe , many sound guys i respect recommend the x32 over alot of mixers that are more than double the cost.Saying "they sound better, have more features, etc."compared to the soundcraft expression for instance. I for one will not spend thousands on anything made in china period. Except a macbook pro

Yes sir.

So We Can Assume You'll Have No Need For Speaker Upgrades. Only When You ADD SMore Stuff. Nice!

(NM)

I would upgrade for the right stuff. I love the KV2s I have but they are too expensive to add more to my current inventory. I am interested in the RCF TT line as well as something less expensive for basic PA/Cocktail & Ceremony Systems.

Gotcha. The RCF TT Would Be An Upgrade. Very Expense Though.

@ toneeboyd

Did you know the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary ?

Did you know if you say the word "gullible" slowly it sounds like oranges ?

Did you know.....

That's double standards m8. Pretty much all JBL, QSC etc is made in China. You even said yourself, you would happily buy a MacBook Pro that's made in China, even given Apple's shoddy track record with Foxconn. At least Behringer has set up it's own purpose built factories so they can control work conditions and such. Do you own a Roland/Yamaha/Korg synth? They're made in China. Pioneer DJ equipment? Made in China...

In case you haven't used the X32, I would be inclined for you to have a look. After the Yamaha and A&H mixers, it was the first digital mixer to be truly affordable and offer high-end features. Now you can find all kinds of small scale stripped down mixers from the likes of A&H (Qu), Yamaha (TF), Soundcraft (Si) and even QSC (Touchmix). Thanks Behringer. I don't they've released anything quite like the X32 since though.

the Behringer X32 is the equivalent of a unicorn, true story.

I have the x32. Very sweet sounding mixer and I am obsessive about sound quality. i had one of their subs on the other hand and it was one of the biggest pieces of junk I have ever owned.

I've went out on live sound gigs with my buddy and his X32. I must say, that thing holds up! It's a great mixer with pro features that cost at least twice as much. I wonder if pdidy has seen or used an X32? Maybe he's ridden a unicorn too, but I don't know?!? LoL

It's the same workflow and features as the digital Midas gear. Hey look identical. The x32 is more Midas rebranded than Behringer. A killer deal.

i was actually complimenting the x32, Behringer has produced alot of shity products but the x32 is a very rare exception to the rule.

Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.

I have a behringer xr18 unit and I'm very happy with it.

I bought a behringer XR12 for my band and it's pretty amazing. Daft Punk used to tour with early behringer digital mixers.

Ahhh - gotcha!



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