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2nd output projector screen diff color than mac?

DJ Tecniq 10:00 AM - 22 January, 2012
Hey guys I had my reg thurs night gig this past thursday. I did video and hooked into the mac like usual..However the club had a new projector it was like a miniature dell or something. Anyways it had no remote so I couldn't change settings. The video output on the screen was like a greenish/blue tint the entire time. However my mac's output and video sl were showing original color. The owners pretty cheap so I thought maybe he didn't have the correct bulb or something..Has this ever happened to anyone? I even calibrated my color settings on mac and it did nothin? The owner turned the projector on first then I plugged the vga cable into my mini display adapter. When the projector started it showed a white dell screen with logo and said "optimized for true color" but the screen was green/blueish the entire set. However the videos quality looked great.
DJ Tecniq 10:03 AM - 22 January, 2012
It really sucked cause the screen was so dark and a completly diff color than what my mac and video sl were showing. I said fuck it and just continued Vj'ing.
DJ Tecniq 10:07 AM - 22 January, 2012
The owner said it must of been a setting on my computer..I told him i double checked and even plugged the adapter cable out and then back in..and it was the same color as before..like a blueish tint. When i got closer to the mini projector the color coming out of the lens was like a blueish color. He buys shit on ebay. I got a ladder to get up there and try and find a button or something but didn't feel anything.
DJ Tecniq 10:18 AM - 22 January, 2012
And by mini projector I mean you could fit this damn thing in your pocket it was that small.
Code:E 11:34 AM - 22 January, 2012
tell the owner your the nerd, and know how your shit works, and his crap is the problem. and then tell him you wouldn't even involve him if you weren't already sure the issue was with his equipment.

Its just a cheap shitty projector. Next time dont give 2 shits about it. Its not your fault his shit sucks. most people dont even know its the DJ doing videos and they just blame the clubs stuff for video's.
phatbob 11:42 AM - 22 January, 2012
It's probably in some 'office' picture mode.

Work out the model, google for the manual, and figure out how to fix it.
tomatoslice 12:06 PM - 22 January, 2012
clearly the red was missing. test the projector.
but i had this happen once due to a bad vga cable.
tomatoslice 12:15 PM - 22 January, 2012
If the projector is looking for a component signal and actually receiving an RGB signal, color distortions will result. Check the input set up on the projector.

Often, the problem can be tracked down to the interconnect between the computer and the display. VGA connectors and the cable are liable to fail after a period of time. The first step is to replace the cable and see if the problem is fixed.
If possible, use a known good computer display and cable to see if red green and blue are being output from the computer. If they are, then it points to a fault in the computer itself. If the fault persists, then the projector is suspect.
Code:E 12:33 PM - 22 January, 2012
take Tomatoslice's advice before mine... But I did assume you did all of that already, as its part of any trouble shooting test that can be done.

Tomatoslice's you just laid it out so nice, maybe you should write a manual on "trouble shooting tech problems for dummy's"
DJ Tecniq 12:41 PM - 22 January, 2012
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If the projector is looking for a component signal and actually receiving an RGB signal, color distortions will result. Check the input set up on the projector.

Often, the problem can be tracked down to the interconnect between the computer and the display. VGA connectors and the cable are liable to fail after a period of time. The first step is to replace the cable and see if the problem is fixed.
If possible, use a known good computer display and cable to see if red green and blue are being output from the computer. If they are, then it points to a fault in the computer itself. If the fault persists, then the projector is suspect.
Interesting. I'll test later today with my tv's output. And i don't think it's a bad cable either i bought it from svideo.com a yr ago and it's a 50 ft cable..I'd hate to have to pay that price again then later find out it's indeed not the cable.
DJ Tecniq 12:42 PM - 22 January, 2012
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It's probably in some 'office' picture mode.

Work out the model, google for the manual, and figure out how to fix it.
I will take this advice too.
DJ Tecniq 12:44 PM - 22 January, 2012
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clearly the red was missing. test the projector.
but i had this happen once due to a bad vga cable.
By red do you mean a bulb?
Code:E 12:52 PM - 22 January, 2012
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clearly the red was missing. test the projector.
but i had this happen once due to a bad vga cable.
By red do you mean a bulb?


No inside a VGA cable 2 pins (1 pos 1 neg, do blue), 2 pins do green ect..... so its possible one of the pins that do your red colour are broken.
DJ Tecniq 1:22 PM - 22 January, 2012
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clearly the red was missing. test the projector.
but i had this happen once due to a bad vga cable.
By red do you mean a bulb?


No inside a VGA cable 2 pins (1 pos 1 neg, do blue), 2 pins do green ect..... so its possible one of the pins that do your red colour are broken.
gotcha! i will check. thanks for everyones response.
lofty 1:33 PM - 22 January, 2012
you can try to adjust the color profile on the mac ( I had to do tis at the place I VDJ at)
My second display was calibrated for my projector , when I hooked it up at the bar the pic was dark and looked dull (bluish image you could barely) after adjusting second display it looks amazing.

Hook up second display
open up displays(in system preferences) and you'll have a window on EACH DISPLAY, scroll mouse to second display and click "color" try the different "stock profiles" that should help, if not you can try to calibrate and adjust gamma and stuff and save it. (that's what I did)
DJ Tecniq 1:43 PM - 22 January, 2012
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you can try to adjust the color profile on the mac ( I had to do tis at the place I VDJ at)
My second display was calibrated for my projector , when I hooked it up at the bar the pic was dark and looked dull (bluish image you could barely) after adjusting second display it looks amazing.

Hook up second display
open up displays(in system preferences) and you'll have a window on EACH DISPLAY, scroll mouse to second display and click "color" try the different "stock profiles" that should help, if not you can try to calibrate and adjust gamma and stuff and save it. (that's what I did)
I believe you are onto something and i think that was my problem. I had calibrated the color for mac but totally missed the box where i could uncheck "show profiles for this display only" I believe that is my fix.
DJ Tecniq 1:51 PM - 22 January, 2012
I'm definetly gonna calibrate the 2nd display next time which will be this thursday coming up. I'm quite positive that was my problem.
DJ Tecniq 2:03 PM - 22 January, 2012
He had it all fucked up anyway..he put the projector to close to the screen so the titles for videos were getting cut off and shit. I'll def have to fuck with the resolution on 2nd display.
tomatoslice 4:07 PM - 22 January, 2012
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It's probably in some 'office' picture mode.

Work out the model, google for the manual, and figure out how to fix it.
I will take this advice too.



i have not read all the replies but can tell you that is NOT it.

also, very simply...you ARE missing the reds.
DJ Tecniq 4:08 PM - 22 January, 2012
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It's probably in some 'office' picture mode.

Work out the model, google for the manual, and figure out how to fix it.
I will take this advice too.



i have not read all the replies but can tell you that is NOT it.

also, very simply...you ARE missing the reds.
Yeah I think i just need to calibrate the 2nd output from my mac. I didn't even know u can calibrate the 2nd output. I thought it was just mac output
DJ DisGrace 4:10 PM - 22 January, 2012
+1 on cable having a broken pin

if that's the case all the calibrating in the world won't fix it
DJ Dac 4:27 AM - 23 January, 2012
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+1 on cable having a broken pin

if that's the case all the calibrating in the world won't fix it

i work with a guy who had a blue monitor for years, he wouldnt listen to me when i told him it was the pin and that everything was fine... i was like no man, its not fine, your monitor is blue!!! it took 5 seconds to fix... and its happened on multiple computers before
Res-Q 1:50 PM - 23 January, 2012
yo Tecniq, I know axactly what your problem is bro.
I use the same small Dell picoprojector sometimes when I'm in a very small venue; with low lights and short projection distance, its a good picoprojector but it has one little flaw, the connector:
if you look at the back of it, it has a proprietary connection if this connector is not snugged in you will get that greenish/blue screen. it's as simple as that
Joshua Carl 4:05 PM - 23 January, 2012
if its REALLY green:
than your projector does not by default switch to look for the proper component signal.(YUV; Y/Pb/Pr) versus RGB with sync. VGA is RGB with horizontal sync. and vertical sync. separate on fourth and fifth line.

without access to the menu, I dont know if theres a way to switch the component input.
(though older ones have a little switch)
Ive seen this first hand 3 or 4 times in the last 5 years,

some simple converters can change the signal for you with a toggle switch.
DJ Tecniq 8:24 PM - 23 January, 2012
All interesting points guys. I did notice when the projector was turned on it was looking for sources. And happened to find VGA. However I used Video-SL a bit yesterday hooked to my flatscreen and everything was gravy. Tells me it's either the cable or projector. I remembered when I got a ladder and looked up there at it..it had a blue connector it was kinda round and it connected from another wire. Everything seemed to be snug but I will recheck this.
DJ Tecniq 8:26 PM - 23 January, 2012
The projector when on the white dell screen said "Optimized for true color" so I thought everything was good till every video was the exact same color..almost like a dark/green blueish tint. It looked horrible..but wasn't much I could do so just continued.
Res-Q 10:11 PM - 23 January, 2012
the blue connector u see is the power line, it goes into the proprietary connector that i'm talking about, its this proprietary connector that plugs into the back of the projector that u need to check, not the blue plug.
look at the pict here where it shoes the back of the projector with the connector hooked up in it, thats what u wanna check
www.picoprojecteurs.com
Joshua Carl 10:58 PM - 23 January, 2012
50 lumens?

I put my iphone up to a viewmaster and i get a 50 lumen image!

maybe they mean 500?
FunkyRob 1:30 AM - 24 January, 2012
some of you guys should start bringing your own projectors
DJ Tecniq 2:07 AM - 24 January, 2012
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the blue connector u see is the power line, it goes into the proprietary connector that i'm talking about, its this proprietary connector that plugs into the back of the projector that u need to check, not the blue plug.
look at the pict here where it shoes the back of the projector with the connector hooked up in it, thats what u wanna check
www.picoprojecteurs.com
This looks like a newer model. The one at the club is kinda oval shaped. I will take a pic of the damn thing with my phone thurs night. its smaller than that i believe.
Res-Q 6:02 AM - 24 January, 2012
Dont get me wrong JC, I am not recommending it, just helping out here.
Again, this is NOT a projector but a pico. its not professional or nothing, and i wouldnt be using it in clubs, but it's small enough to fit in my Creator along with all my gear and when I'm abroad and cant carry my Benq MP776ST then, its good to have for a quick setup in a bar to make that extra $

Tecniq, yes this is the new model, i have the old one too, just make sure the plug at the back of the pico is plugged-in all the way and ur good
DJ Tecniq 1:03 AM - 27 January, 2012
I'm gonna be at my reg thurs night gig tonight. I'll take a pic of the projector and post it. And see if I can fix the color. Thanks for all the help fellas.