DJing Discussion

This area is for discussion about DJing in general. Please remember the community rules when posting and try to be polite and inclusive.

Rane 68 Vs. Pioneer DJM 2000

360loop 10:31 AM - 29 November, 2011
I've upgraded from a first generation ttm-57-sl to the 68 two months ago. Over all I'm more than pleased with the mixer. But my friend is looking at the 68 & 2000. He just can't make up his mind. The 68 has a much nicer design with better knobs vs. my old ttm57-sl with a real rugged feeling like the Pioneer DJM 800 mixer, The two extra channels that I found very handy to use with mapping as my video midi controller. Just over all I wanted to get other 68 users vs. 2000s users. Im not much of a efx junky but I'm more than happy with my 68 and its efx. Also with the 2 usb serato inputs. Fast & easy change overs for Djs.

Moving on to the Pioneer DJM 2000. I've never used it. I just cant get over the fear of the touch screen on it. How many of you have had wet hands and tried to use the screen on your phone? Things getting selected that you did not select or called the wrong number? I can see this happening with the huge touch screen on the 2000. Also not serato all Djs now have to hook & unhook there serato boxes. More time & also opportunity for an error to occur in the setup for the next Dj to play next. How are the 2000s exf vs. the 68?

Any info & personal experiences or outlooks on this would be helpful. I feel the I made the right choose buying the rane 68.

Thanks Josh,
Rebelguy 7:00 AM - 14 December, 2011
Honestly in this price range I would be debating on the 68 vs the Xone DB4. The 2000 would not even be on my list.
360loop 6:28 PM - 14 December, 2011
That is I was telling him. But he is in love with that 2000.
WarpNote 3:48 AM - 18 December, 2011
The FX section on the 2000 looks nice, but then again, I own the 68, best mixer I ever played on. Love that thing... Also, getting so bored with the 800/900 mixers im my regular clubs, just hate the FX dial knob, what a crappy implementation compared to the 68...
Dj Ace 9:08 AM - 18 December, 2011
+1
Res-Q 10:59 AM - 18 December, 2011
+2
360loop 6:32 PM - 18 December, 2011
+3
Rane, Support
Zach S 7:55 PM - 19 December, 2011
+4
Rane, Support
Shaun W 8:39 PM - 19 December, 2011
+more ;)
WarpNote 8:44 PM - 19 December, 2011
Now, there's just one little thing to make the 68 nearly perfect ;-)
Hint > serato.com
reggae delgado 1:53 AM - 20 December, 2011
Quote:
The FX section on the 2000 looks nice, but then again, I own the 68, best mixer I ever played on. Love that thing... Also, getting so bored with the 800/900 mixers im my regular clubs, just hate the FX dial knob, what a crappy implementation compared to the 68...


+ not sure what # we're up to now
WarpNote 2:55 AM - 20 December, 2011
Quote:
+ not sure what # we're up to now

as Shaun wrote "+more" were now up to the # "+ even more"
simple elementary mathematics.. :-)
Huda Hudia 8:55 AM - 20 December, 2011
OK, let me put this in terms us DJ's will understand. Two years ago Serato had about 80% of the DJ market share and Traktor had about 20% market share. After talking with the owners of one of the top three music retailers in the US Traktor now has increased market share to around 50%. So again, let me put this in a way DJ's will understand.... Serato seems to be sucking RANE's dick and TRAKTOR seems to be sucking everyone's dick. No disrespect to Traktor by any means, but they seem to have their shit together. Come on fellow DJ's, if I know I wanna get a blow job I'll go to Traktor. These day it seems like I'd have to wait a year or two to teach RANE how to suck it! I mean come on TTM-57 in like 2009 and 68 in 2011. Seems like its taking a while for RANE to learn what the market really wants. I want tug, tug, suck, suck, tug, tug, lick, lick..... yeah exactly, different strokes for different folks and you're still trying to figure out what everyone wants.

Look, all fun and games aside RANE and scratchlive really seem to be falling off. I'm still a loyal user of Serato and scratchlive. I'll keep being loyal, but it doesn't mean I have to kiss anyone's ass while I'm being loyal. Get your game together!!! I hope I've made my point. Yeah, get off your ass and stop making me buy all these different after market components just to make up for your lack of product development, market research, and research development, because it seems the DJ's on your staff must be playing at weddings instead main stream clubs. You should be making ONE SOLID PRODUCT!!! NOTE::: i have no clue who is on the serato DJ staff or the RANE staff so I do not mean any disrespect against you guys other than, "come on guys really??? speak your mind and get a product out there us DJ's can use!"
360loop 8:55 AM - 20 December, 2011
Quote:
OK, let me put this in terms us DJ's will understand. Two years ago Serato had about 80% of the DJ market share and Traktor had about 20% market share. After talking with the owners of one of the top three music retailers in the US Traktor now has increased market share to around 50%. So again, let me put this in a way DJ's will understand.... Serato seems to be sucking RANE's dick and TRAKTOR seems to be sucking everyone's dick. No disrespect to Traktor by any means, but they seem to have their shit together. Come on fellow DJ's, if I know I wanna get a blow job I'll go to Traktor. These day it seems like I'd have to wait a year or two to teach RANE how to suck it! I mean come on TTM-57 in like 2009 and 68 in 2011. Seems like its taking a while for RANE to learn what the market really wants. I want tug, tug, suck, suck, tug, tug, lick, lick..... yeah exactly, different strokes for different folks and you're still trying to figure out what everyone wants.

Look, all fun and games aside RANE and scratchlive really seem to be falling off. I'm still a loyal user of Serato and scratchlive. I'll keep being loyal, but it doesn't mean I have to kiss anyone's ass while I'm being loyal. Get your game together!!! I hope I've made my point. Yeah, get off your ass and stop making me buy all these different after market components just to make up for your lack of product development, market research, and research development, because it seems the DJ's on your staff must be playing at weddings instead main stream clubs. You should be making ONE SOLID PRODUCT!!! NOTE::: i have no clue who is on the serato DJ staff or the RANE staff so I do not mean any disrespect against you guys other than, "come on guys really??? speak your mind and get a product out there us DJ's can use!"


+1
Huda Hudia 9:09 AM - 20 December, 2011
Quote:
I want tug, tug, suck, suck, tug, tug, lick, lick.....


Sorry guys, I'm still LMAO after this one!
Huda Hudia 9:20 AM - 20 December, 2011
OK, last post but what I really want is a Pioneer DJM-T1 type mixer to come from RANE! How about a RANE DJM-57-FX-MC (Midi Controller) for scratchlive... oh wait, yeah, if you've read my other posts on this whole updated mixer idea then you'd know I'll probably die from second hand smoke before RANE actually steps up to the plate! Why do I have to buy second hand controllers to work my FX in scratch live like the Vestax VFX-1 only to figure out it controls only 1 FX parameter. So then I have to go buy the NI Kontrol X1 to control all three FX parameters. Then I need my dicers to control some other functions. COME ON GUYS!!! HOW MUCH SHIT CAN I FIT IN MY DJ BAG BEFORE TSA WANTS TO GRAB MY NUTS OR SEND ME THROUGH THE NAKED BODY SCANNER!!! I'm going to bed.... I gotta wake up by 5PM, yes, 5PM, get ready for my Tuesday night gig.
Niro 8:12 PM - 21 December, 2011
I had to play on a 2000 a few months back and I have to say, that mixer was crap. The faders felt cheap and it had so many useless functions.

Another funny thing I've noticed is longevity. People don't mind a replacing a pioneer mixer every year or two and expect a mixer to be outdated within three. But when a company tries to make a product that last, it gets ridiculed for not coming out with stuff fast enough. The 57 came out in 2006 and it is still a very relevant mixer today and will probably be for a few more years. The 68 may not be everyone's cup of tea, but after correctly learning and playing on it, it's a pretty dope ass mixer.
Dj Ace 9:32 PM - 21 December, 2011
+1
ancientyouth 1:33 PM - 9 January, 2012
well i tried a 2000 and loved it!!i own a 68 and love it too but the pioneer is more user friendly.....the fx smoke the 68 and center fx area has a remix/mix function that is awesome....... the main prob ive had (besides sending it in twice for cue button issues) is that people who arent really familiar with the 68 seem to have probs, someone turns the flex fx down, or engage the delay when it is up all the way and on and blows everyones ears out, ivE just had a bunch of instances where i wasnt standing in the booth or right there and someone has to come and find me ....... i must say i like the 2000 more just because of that.....
Res-Q 2:50 PM - 9 January, 2012
I agree with u ancient, the 68 is like a ferrari, u cant drive that ish if u have 2 years licence.
But it's the same with the 57, I used to have to stand next to the guys spinning alongside me all the time because as soon as I headed to the bar they would press the wrong button and kill the sound for many reasons.
Now I only spin on my 68, the others can just stare at it and jerk off, no one is touching my mixer. and I guess if u (not u ancient, but u as in general) are a dj lucky enough to have a 68 installed at ur club, u should come early for the first couple weeks and learn it before tweeking all the knobs live in front of patrons.
Huda Hudia 10:06 PM - 15 February, 2012
Great job this year by RANE and SERATO! Great to hear about the new products coming from Serato Scratch Live and Rane! I've already pre-ordered my sixty-two mixer. Also coming soon to market from Denon is the DN-sc900. I believe that will be a midi controller for serato. Here is some basic info on the mixers.

THE RANE SIXTY-ONE AND SIXTY-TWO FOR SERATO SCRATCH LIVE
The Rane family of Scratch Live hardware just got bigger with three new mixers, including an exclusive collaboration with Z-Trip to produce the Rane Sixty-Two Z.

The Rane Sixty-Two is a plug-and-play package supporting two computers, 2-deck digital vinyl simulation, SP-6 sample player, software and hardware effects and all the record and playback channels you need. Software controls for Library, Loops, Cues and SP-6 are laid out for fast and intuitive access. Choose the Sixty-Two and join a community of users dedicated to advancement of the art.

Z-Trip’s Limited Edition Sixty-Two Z Mixer is functionally identical to Rane’s Sixty-Two, with a face plate design by Shepard Fairey and custom purple cables.

If you are looking for the same bullet-proof construction, pristine audio quality and integrated 20-channel sound card but prefer to use your own MIDI controller with outboard software or hardware effects and a single computer, consider the Rane Sixty-One.