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New Article - Techniques & Tricks with the TTM 57SL
Daniel Cooper
11:20 PM - 3 October, 2007
We're currently writing a new article all about the TTM 57SL.
(Here is the link to our new articles section: www.scratchlive.net )
One of the sections of the article will be titled: Forum Users Tricks.
Post any cool tricks and techniques you have tried and tested with your 57 here and we will include the best in the article. You will be credited.
(Here is the link to our new articles section: www.scratchlive.net )
One of the sections of the article will be titled: Forum Users Tricks.
Post any cool tricks and techniques you have tried and tested with your 57 here and we will include the best in the article. You will be credited.
Certified Quality Entertainment
1:33 PM - 4 October, 2007
So where do we go to pick up our 57 to use for the testing?? :)
AdamJay
5:38 PM - 4 October, 2007
okay here's one...
BAND ISOLATED ECHOES.
Since the TTM57SL allows you to assign either Digital Streams 1 or 2 to either of the PGM1 and PGM2 channels, this means you can assign the same stream (aka 1 deck in SSL) to both channels.
Why would anyone want to do this? So that you can use the 2nd channel to create band isolated echoes, which sound much different and are much more specific/polished than typical use of the echo and aux.
First, turn on the Echo and route it to the AUX (FlexFX)
Now, assign the track you want to effect to both channels, for example set both channel inputs to D1.
Now, using PGM1 to play back your track normally. Take PGM2 and kill the lows, trim the highs, and boost the mids. Turn on the FlexFX(Aux) for PGM2 as well.
Use the PGM2 level fader to stab in elements of the song to be echoed. If you're just boosting the mids and killing the lows and highs, you can give a great filtered echo sound to vocals or other elements of the song found in the mid range. And you can further illustrate this by assigning the other FX Processor to Filter with lots of resonance and assigned to PGM2. Sweep the frequency while you send to the echo with the PGM2 fader. Scratch DJs can have alot of fun with this because it makes one of the 3 great magnetic faders an echo send fader, so precise cuts and crabs can add another dimension of creativity.
The downside to this trick is you can only do it on one track, and you're not able to mix tracks while you do it. However, for long EDM break downs, it gives you another creative tool to use for sculpting with effects. You can still have your next track ready to go on the 2nd deck in SSL, all you have to do to get back to mixing is change the input to D2 and carry on.
BAND ISOLATED ECHOES.
Since the TTM57SL allows you to assign either Digital Streams 1 or 2 to either of the PGM1 and PGM2 channels, this means you can assign the same stream (aka 1 deck in SSL) to both channels.
Why would anyone want to do this? So that you can use the 2nd channel to create band isolated echoes, which sound much different and are much more specific/polished than typical use of the echo and aux.
First, turn on the Echo and route it to the AUX (FlexFX)
Now, assign the track you want to effect to both channels, for example set both channel inputs to D1.
Now, using PGM1 to play back your track normally. Take PGM2 and kill the lows, trim the highs, and boost the mids. Turn on the FlexFX(Aux) for PGM2 as well.
Use the PGM2 level fader to stab in elements of the song to be echoed. If you're just boosting the mids and killing the lows and highs, you can give a great filtered echo sound to vocals or other elements of the song found in the mid range. And you can further illustrate this by assigning the other FX Processor to Filter with lots of resonance and assigned to PGM2. Sweep the frequency while you send to the echo with the PGM2 fader. Scratch DJs can have alot of fun with this because it makes one of the 3 great magnetic faders an echo send fader, so precise cuts and crabs can add another dimension of creativity.
The downside to this trick is you can only do it on one track, and you're not able to mix tracks while you do it. However, for long EDM break downs, it gives you another creative tool to use for sculpting with effects. You can still have your next track ready to go on the 2nd deck in SSL, all you have to do to get back to mixing is change the input to D2 and carry on.
AdamJay
9:12 PM - 8 October, 2007
maybe this should be made a sticky in the TTM57SL section of the forum, eh?
Daniel Cooper
9:18 PM - 8 October, 2007
Hi AdamJay
Thanks to you and nik39 for your input to this post.
Everyone else - keep the tips, tricks and techniques coming.
Thanks to you and nik39 for your input to this post.
Everyone else - keep the tips, tricks and techniques coming.
grotesque
11:40 PM - 8 October, 2007
Okay i have no idea whether anyone else has posted this or does this but i thought it was pretty clever. I cut a lot and always find that listening back to my recorded cuts helps me tighten up, but the echo effect has a setting that makes it so that i can do a cut for a bar and listen back to it straight away.
CALL & RESPONSE SCRATCH PRACTICE
first you enable the effects for the side that you cut on, turn the delay to X4, the feedback as low as it goes and the mix at about 50%
put an instrumental on the other side and lock the effect tempo to that side
cut for a bar, listen to your cuts back for a bar, repeat for hours or until your fingers cramp up!
(apologies if this is the 60th time someone has posted this trick)
CALL & RESPONSE SCRATCH PRACTICE
first you enable the effects for the side that you cut on, turn the delay to X4, the feedback as low as it goes and the mix at about 50%
put an instrumental on the other side and lock the effect tempo to that side
cut for a bar, listen to your cuts back for a bar, repeat for hours or until your fingers cramp up!
(apologies if this is the 60th time someone has posted this trick)
Daniel Cooper
1:37 AM - 9 October, 2007
Hi grotesque
Thanks for your post, nice trick, think I'll try that out later.
Thanks for your post, nice trick, think I'll try that out later.
jstockdale
8:34 AM - 9 October, 2007
Alright, this is a technique I've been playing with recently, that was made much more feasible due to the high fidelity resampler in 1.7.4. First of all: BEWARE, it's really easy to create unbearable sounds, but with the right settings the results can be great :-)
PITCH SHIFTED CHORUS (AKA CRAZY F@*#ING HARMONICS)
Double up your decks, and make sure they're running at the exact same speed. For added fun, switch to internal mode for a greater range of speed adjustment.
Turn Key-Lock on for one deck, and off for the other deck.
Tweak EQ and explore the available harmonics. Adjust speed of both decks (while keeping them in sync) to vary the pitch separation between the tracks.
PITCH SHIFTED CHORUS (AKA CRAZY F@*#ING HARMONICS)
Double up your decks, and make sure they're running at the exact same speed. For added fun, switch to internal mode for a greater range of speed adjustment.
Turn Key-Lock on for one deck, and off for the other deck.
Tweak EQ and explore the available harmonics. Adjust speed of both decks (while keeping them in sync) to vary the pitch separation between the tracks.
nobspangle
4:30 PM - 9 October, 2007
This one's an oldie people have been using for years on Pioneer mixers.
Comb filter,
Turn on the normal echo set the mix and feedback to around 50%, turn P1 anti-clockwise until the delay is 1ms slowly turn P1 back and forth, different delays give you different harmonics.
Comb filter,
Turn on the normal echo set the mix and feedback to around 50%, turn P1 anti-clockwise until the delay is 1ms slowly turn P1 back and forth, different delays give you different harmonics.
DJ Dill Pickle
1:38 AM - 10 October, 2007
nice, nobspangle, I think that's more or less the 'jet' function on cdjs?
DJ Dill Pickle
1:44 AM - 10 October, 2007
Here's a basic one,
utilising the UNDO LOAD feature;
assign UNDO LOAD to a J2 trigger, (or B1-6, what ever,)
Play a track on PGM 1
Load a track on PGM 2
Load a second track onto PGM 2
Pull a mix between the channels,
and snap the 'undo' feature to instantly change songs in the mix
Can sound great, can sound crap, just depends on your song choice + preparation.
utilising the UNDO LOAD feature;
assign UNDO LOAD to a J2 trigger, (or B1-6, what ever,)
Play a track on PGM 1
Load a track on PGM 2
Load a second track onto PGM 2
Pull a mix between the channels,
and snap the 'undo' feature to instantly change songs in the mix
Can sound great, can sound crap, just depends on your song choice + preparation.
wakka
3:59 AM - 12 October, 2007
I see people trying to quickly mix and make mash-ups like DJ AM but haven't seen too many people use the following trick. Quite simple and needs no cueing
Quickly dropping a new track to the mix:
-Setup Serato so the track automatically plays from the first cue point
-Make the first cue point the first beat of the track
-Now select the song and drop it into the mix by hitting the PGM1/PGM2 buttons
This way, you can switch to a new song on the same channel without missing a beat. Or change a song in the middle of a blend and still be beatmatched(make sure BPM allows beforehand).
Quickly dropping a new track to the mix:
-Setup Serato so the track automatically plays from the first cue point
-Make the first cue point the first beat of the track
-Now select the song and drop it into the mix by hitting the PGM1/PGM2 buttons
This way, you can switch to a new song on the same channel without missing a beat. Or change a song in the middle of a blend and still be beatmatched(make sure BPM allows beforehand).
nik39
8:48 AM - 12 October, 2007
Actually I think there is a small delay when loading tracks and playing from the first cue point, so it might be not in sync. Correct?
wakka
6:14 AM - 13 October, 2007
I haven't had any problems regarding the said delay, but I can see how the reliability of this trick can vary depending on how fast or slow the users' computer is. Also, you must make sure you have built your overviews beforehand
DJ Dill Pickle
1:01 PM - 15 October, 2007
Yeah it's one of those things - I honestly am not sure if it's perfect, but depending on what your flipping back and forth, like, just easy vocals, instead of a heavy beat... it can work well,
MODJ
9:18 AM - 7 January, 2008
couldn't you just do the same thing with instant doubles? that way you don't have to change the input signal path on channel two..you just do instant doubles and mute eq and/or add effects to the double, then do cool scratches or overdub two of the same tracks, one with effects, etc...
BAND ISOLATED ECHOES.
Since the TTM57SL allows you to assign either Digital Streams 1 or 2 to either of the PGM1 and PGM2 channels, this means you can assign the same stream (aka 1 deck in SSL) to both channels.
Why would anyone want to do this? So that you can use the 2nd channel to create band isolated echoes, which sound much different and are much more specific/polished than typical use of the echo and aux.
First, turn on the Echo and route it to the AUX (FlexFX)
Now, assign the track you want to effect to both channels, for example set both channel inputs to D1.
Now, using PGM1 to play back your track normally. Take PGM2 and kill the lows, trim the highs, and boost the mids. Turn on the FlexFX(Aux) for PGM2 as well.
Use the PGM2 level fader to stab in elements of the song to be echoed. If you're just boosting the mids and killing the lows and highs, you can give a great filtered echo sound to vocals or other elements of the song found in the mid range. And you can further illustrate this by assigning the other FX Processor to Filter with lots of resonance and assigned to PGM2. Sweep the frequency while you send to the echo with the PGM2 fader. Scratch DJs can have alot of fun with this because it makes one of the 3 great magnetic faders an echo send fader, so precise cuts and crabs can add another dimension of creativity.
The downside to this trick is you can only do it on one track, and you're not able to mix tracks while you do it. However, for long EDM break downs, it gives you another creative tool to use for sculpting with effects. You can still have your next track ready to go on the 2nd deck in SSL, all you have to do to get back to mixing is change the input to D2 and carry on.
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okay here's one...BAND ISOLATED ECHOES.
Since the TTM57SL allows you to assign either Digital Streams 1 or 2 to either of the PGM1 and PGM2 channels, this means you can assign the same stream (aka 1 deck in SSL) to both channels.
Why would anyone want to do this? So that you can use the 2nd channel to create band isolated echoes, which sound much different and are much more specific/polished than typical use of the echo and aux.
First, turn on the Echo and route it to the AUX (FlexFX)
Now, assign the track you want to effect to both channels, for example set both channel inputs to D1.
Now, using PGM1 to play back your track normally. Take PGM2 and kill the lows, trim the highs, and boost the mids. Turn on the FlexFX(Aux) for PGM2 as well.
Use the PGM2 level fader to stab in elements of the song to be echoed. If you're just boosting the mids and killing the lows and highs, you can give a great filtered echo sound to vocals or other elements of the song found in the mid range. And you can further illustrate this by assigning the other FX Processor to Filter with lots of resonance and assigned to PGM2. Sweep the frequency while you send to the echo with the PGM2 fader. Scratch DJs can have alot of fun with this because it makes one of the 3 great magnetic faders an echo send fader, so precise cuts and crabs can add another dimension of creativity.
The downside to this trick is you can only do it on one track, and you're not able to mix tracks while you do it. However, for long EDM break downs, it gives you another creative tool to use for sculpting with effects. You can still have your next track ready to go on the 2nd deck in SSL, all you have to do to get back to mixing is change the input to D2 and carry on.
AdamJay
8:20 PM - 27 March, 2008
yea, you could, but then you'd have to take the time to load a new track to get out of the double and thats kind of counter intuitive if all you want to do is treat one track with band isolated echoes for a few beats and then go back to mixing.
not to mention the fact that instant doubles is going to probably give you some flanging due to the effected deck being on a secondary rotating platter (susceptible to pitch fluctuations)... but for some, that may be a desirable effect. like you said, scratches could be added...
i think changing the channel selector and having the track with which you wish to mix into next already loaded on the non-selected deck would be a faster workflow than the process of A) loading the instant double / B) loading your next track.
different strokes...
not to mention the fact that instant doubles is going to probably give you some flanging due to the effected deck being on a secondary rotating platter (susceptible to pitch fluctuations)... but for some, that may be a desirable effect. like you said, scratches could be added...
i think changing the channel selector and having the track with which you wish to mix into next already loaded on the non-selected deck would be a faster workflow than the process of A) loading the instant double / B) loading your next track.
different strokes...
inormis
8:16 PM - 24 April, 2008
this is an easy one, if u dont have an efx processor or whatever and dont want to assign phase into flx, all u have to do is have 2 tracks running at the same time and open the fader, must be exact tracks and speed....once fader is opened u will have phase effect :)
djjsped
10:35 AM - 24 July, 2008
The TTM57 also works awesome of course! with regular vinyl mixing without the program running you can use your FX to fade out and sculpt the mix however which way u want it.
djcrxxx
4:43 PM - 24 July, 2008
any tips on Fx?effects an such can you point me in the right direction. I only the 57 as a normal mixer at the mo!
marknonsense1
12:38 AM - 30 July, 2008
YEAH. . . . Heres the best tip you'll ever get on the FX for the 57sl. . . DON'T USE THEM! They suck! Get an EFX-1000/500. . .
djcrxxx
5:03 AM - 30 July, 2008
nah cappinkirk gave me a better he tip. he showed me how to work the echo effect,now im lmao!!
im prob only stil using 20% of the mixers capabilities!! lol
im prob only stil using 20% of the mixers capabilities!! lol
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