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General recording questions

dreamkast 3:39 AM - 7 August, 2007
So when you guys talk about recording vinyl and mixes and that with your 57 are you just hitting ctrl+n and recording in serato onto the comp that your using (the only way im familiar with at the moment with the 57) or are you recording into another program on the same computer or onto another completly different computer.
Dj Snaptec 10:25 AM - 7 August, 2007
before i´ve got a 57sl i recorded with an estra soundcard and not with my macbook...
now, i´ll be recording with the ttm and the macbook. but not with ssl. i´ll use cubase sx
dreamkast 11:25 PM - 7 August, 2007
yer I use to use a maudio soundcard, but now there wont be much need for it? how do you record into a seperate program while using ssl, will I need like an xlr or rca to a 3m jack.
Dj Snaptec 12:03 AM - 8 August, 2007
you wanna record your mix?
at the moment thats impossible with the 57sl
see in feature suggestions, all wanna have multitrack recording..
you can record your mix while you are using normal vinyl.
but not if you use both ssl channels, then you will need an extra soundcard and connect it to the both or aux out.

greetz
KaGeN 12:10 AM - 8 August, 2007
You CAN use you TTM57 to record "MAIN MIX" and that would be whatever is flowing out you main. be it SSL or regular records. It will be saved within Serato when you apply an name to it. It will record up to 3 hours non-stop per file, and even then it will start a new file and keep going.

file format .AIFF
nik39 12:21 AM - 8 August, 2007
Kagen is correct, Snaptec.
dreamkast 12:41 AM - 8 August, 2007
yer I thought so , Ive been doing that, just wondering how to have it recording into another program, and what you guys are doing.
nik39 12:43 AM - 8 August, 2007
Just post your ping pong contribution :-D
dreamkast 2:15 AM - 8 August, 2007
heh me and mr nice sorting that out, theres a lil hickup which aint really my fault, and now it looks like a need more ram to stop the lil skips, so I guess im skipping my turn.
nik39 2:22 AM - 8 August, 2007
Bump the USB buffer, that causes skips while recording.
dreamkast 10:25 PM - 9 August, 2007
yep all those issues sussed, still wondering how guys are recording your mixes with the 57sl wether your recording it in ssl or into other programs while using ssl and how do you do that.
dreamkast 7:35 AM - 12 August, 2007
bump
DJ Cykophuk 2:11 PM - 13 August, 2007
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yep all those issues sussed, still wondering how guys are recording your mixes with the 57sl wether your recording it in ssl or into other programs while using ssl and how do you do that.


I used the recorder in SSL for the following mixes:
Monday Fix.
Boa...1994 called.

links can be found in my blog at myspace/cykophuk


The Monday Fix had drop outs, due to a wireless card I forgot to remove prior to mixing (such a dumbass). They've been fixed using cubase.

Boa 1994 turned out very well with no issues, and was recorded with 90% vinyl, 10% serato...can you tell which is which?
dreamkast 4:44 AM - 16 August, 2007
Sweet ill check those mixes out, when you guys are making more of a polished mixtape/cd that you will need to edit track by track how are you guys recording then?
DJ Cykophuk 1:43 PM - 16 August, 2007
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Sweet ill check those mixes out, when you guys are making more of a polished mixtape/cd that you will need to edit track by track how are you guys recording then?


scratchlive.net

Thats why a bunch of us are whining about adding the multitrack recording feature. This would allow us to record each deck pre fader on separate channels into whatever recording software we use via ASIO. Back in the old days (Tascam 242), I would simply record a simple mix as the base track in stereo, then add bits to pump it up in the transitions. The key there is to keep the base track on the plain side. I found this to be interesting at first...then went back to the 100% live mix because the live mix was more fun, less work and didn't sound as contrived. Just a personal preference.
dreamkast 9:12 PM - 16 August, 2007
ah ok so I cant even record 1 channel into a seperate program while using ssl on the 57?
DJ Cykophuk 9:27 PM - 16 August, 2007
I think that depends on the power of your computer, but generally no and as far as I've seen, not from the SSL program, but maybe with a separate audio card. The file made with the internal recorder can easily be droppped into whatever program you use later.
dreamkast 3:43 AM - 27 August, 2007
k well im finally getting round to recording some mixtapes(cds) but hit a few questions. The 57 only has 1 rca out right? which I use to plug into my stereo for sound as its the only sound system Ive got, ive got a maudio soundcard which I was going to use for recording but thats only got rca and midi in,so I cant use it?

recording live on the 57 is no problem as live mixtapes dont really need to be heavily edit if not at all, but im working on more of mixtapes which are mulitracked,so im wondering the best way to do this, will be recording each track individually in ssl then importing into my editing program (getting all the pitch done right on the decks first) be the best way?
Dj Snaptec 8:15 AM - 28 August, 2007
buy some klinke on chinch(rca) adapters ...so you can use the booth out for recording..
recording only a channel (pre\post) can you only in ssl.
dreamkast 8:23 AM - 28 August, 2007
So like an adaptor that means i can have 2 rca outs?.

what do u mean by the second sentence please?
Dj Snaptec 12:22 PM - 28 August, 2007
i mean u only can record channel 1 or 2 using the ttm 57sl and then record in ssl not in any other recording software (but i´m not shure on this^^)

and yes an adaptor so that you have 2 rca outs (aux & booth) and 1 xlr out (master)
dreamkast 8:06 AM - 6 September, 2007
cant find them in any nz shops, will 2 of these do?

www.trademe.co.nz

or will I need 2 of them.
DJ Daffy 9:39 AM - 6 September, 2007
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cant find them in any nz shops, will 2 of these do?

www.trademe.co.nz

or will I need 2 of them.


That would work but wouldn't be ideal as you wouldn't have seperate volume control. I would recommend either of these alternatives:

www.radioshack.com

www.bswusa.com
dreamkast 10:37 AM - 6 September, 2007
I looked at the pics and they dont seem to show any sign of splitting a signal to 2 outputs,and also I dont have a credit card so need to buy in NZ.
DJ Daffy 11:00 PM - 6 September, 2007
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I looked at the pics and they dont seem to show any sign of splitting a signal to 2 outputs,and also I dont have a credit card so need to buy in NZ.


You wouldn't split the signal with the methods I listed. Splitting the signal really needs to be a last resort because it will limit your control of the source signal. The links I posted will give you the option to run an rca from your aux output to your stereo (like you're doing now) and then use one of the methods I listed and you can come from your booth output to your maudio soundcard. Just plug the 1/4" (adapter or cable) into the booth output of the 57 and the other side (rca) into your soundcard. This way you have seperate volume control for your stereo and your computer.

I would go with the 1/4" to rca cable if it were me. The adapters work fine, and I do use them, but if you have a choice may as well get the hardwired stuff.

I'm sure they sell 1/4" to RCA somewhere in NZ. It's a very common cable.
dreamkast 11:33 PM - 6 September, 2007
ohhh yep got you, sorry bout that. thanks for the help.
DJ Daffy 11:44 PM - 6 September, 2007
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ohhh yep got you, sorry bout that. thanks for the help.


No problem.
dreamkast 1:17 AM - 8 September, 2007
would xlr to rca work just the same.
DJ Daffy 1:43 AM - 8 September, 2007
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would xlr to rca work just the same.


Yeah that would be fine.
dreamkast 3:41 AM - 10 September, 2007
how does it work when you gotta have 2 xlr cables 1 for left and 1 for right but then it has to go into 1 rca.
nobspangle 8:51 AM - 10 September, 2007
Why does it have to go to 1 RCA?
DJ Cykophuk 12:52 PM - 10 September, 2007
ish..are you recording mono? If so...get a splitter and use it backwards.
DJ Daffy 2:16 AM - 11 September, 2007
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how does it work when you gotta have 2 xlr cables 1 for left and 1 for right but then it has to go into 1 rca.


I think what you mean is the cable has an xlr on one end and a single rca on the other. No problem. Just connect the right channel xlr from the mixer into the red rca on your m-audio card and the left channel xlr from the mixer into the white rca on your m-audio card
dreamkast 1:19 AM - 12 September, 2007
oh true thanks, that makes sense daffy.

nobspangle ive only got 1 rca in on my sound card and stereo.
DJ Cykophuk 1:32 AM - 12 September, 2007
If the sound card has just one RCA, you can't be getting true stereo. Sounds like you'll get far superior results by using the SSL internal recorder for your mixes. Like I said above, you can take the AIFF file and drop into most editing programs after the recording has been saved from SSL.
dreamkast 3:36 AM - 12 September, 2007
yer im doing that, but some things are easier to do when you can see and edit what youve just recorded.
nobspangle 8:08 AM - 12 September, 2007
By 1 RCA do you mean 1 white socket and 1 red socket? If so that's two RCAs and it's fine.
Which m-audio card do you have?
DJ Daffy 10:09 PM - 12 September, 2007
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By 1 RCA do you mean 1 white socket and 1 red socket? If so that's two RCAs and it's fine.
Which m-audio card do you have?


I'm thinking that is what he means.
dreamkast 7:44 AM - 14 September, 2007
yep. audiophile.