huh? I thought it did.

Offline player - drag and drop the position of the cues in the order you'd prefer them in - or maybe I'm misunderstanding? Because I have no issues with changing the order the cue points are.

i think what itch is assuming is that the numbers mean more to the users than position. so that is why the numbers stay where you put them not in chronological order.
A dj may want cue point 3 to always be the chorus or outro

I don't know how to do the drag and drop.
I tried dragging the cue point from the waveform to the cue point "column" and that doesn't work, and I tried it vice versa. From the "cue column" to the waveform, no luck.

Example : I have a red cue point at the beginning of my waveform so it is automatically assigned to position 1. (on the waveform AND the "cue column")
I made a cue at 25 sec and made it green for when the vocals start, THEN I created a cue at 5 seconds for when a second beat starts.
They are aligned properly on the WAVEFORM but in the "CUE COLUMN" they are organized by the order in which I created them and it does not adjust. I have to delete them and reset them

so therefore in the "cue column" they are organized as such 1. red 2. green 3. yellow, etc.
in the WAVEFORM they are organized as 1. red 2. YELLOW 3. green, etc.

does this make sense?

Well then don't delete your points - just recolor them. If you're using green and yellow to tell you different things as cue points - then put them in the order you like and switch their color in the offline player.

oh wait, I see.

You can actually drag the cue points INSIDE of the "cue column" to rearrange them.

I am just used to SSL AUTOMATICALLY rearranging them chronologically.

Thanks guys :-)

actually, I'm simply having a problem getting it to recognize when I cue on the virtual deck, it won't show zero. Really frustrating and I've got a gig tomorrow.

That and the missing cue labels/timestamps really bother me when using itch :-(

I don't use ITCH (I'm here learning for when Twitch arrives) but I always have my cue 1 to an intro loop, that loop can be at any time on the track (sometimes the actual intro, some times a break, some times is the outro), but is always the cue 1.

Same thing for Cue 2 that is always where the track ACTUALLY start, and can be at the begining or somewhere in the middle.

I wouldn't want a software messing with the order that I give it, so I dislike your idea :D

selkie that is exactly why i am against it too

In SL there is an option whether you want your cues to be sorted chronologically.

Yeah i want it to be like SSL, with that check box available in Itch also!

ahh i see so we need the option added in itch

honestly, it may seem crazy but this is one of the main reasons why i held off getting a controller for so long. Itch has always come up short compared to ssl (i know everyone is waiting for 2.0), but creating hours of work to rearrange cues was a deal breaker to me. I didnt know you could drag and drop tho. I do alot of mobile gigs and need the right cue set first for continuous play purposes. To have to go in and delete cues and rearrange is something I just don't want to do. Please add this option serato, itch needs all of the same capabilities that ssl has.

That would be an awesome feature...

will this ever be reinstating into itch?

i want this plus being able to label cue points

Yeah it doesn't make sense that we can't label cues in itch....

Its like they're holding off on features just to make us feel like they're doing something...I mean itch is now on the same platform as SSL....

Oh and keep 1.5 around. You can't drag and drop to arrange cue points in 2.0's offline player.

never notice that!

I KNOW! Doesn't make sense to remove that.

Wonder why would they take a benefit like that away?

I don't think it is intentional guys. There is so much code that goes into this program new versions cause instability with older features. Thats why there is always so many RC and beta versions. If enough of us voice our opinion that these features are important to us, they will fix them. Right serato?

I'd still like to see this fixed in next update although I have been slowly re-arranging the cue points myself. Can you please give an option to visibly see cue points and color codes (as well as change them) when unit is connected? Thanks

Visibility of cuepoints is definitely coming up a lot lately.

Hope Serato are hearing us on it.

The question is, why on earth WOULDN'T you want that info available?

exactly, at least make it an option. In a perfect world I would like all the features from both ssl and itch available as an option. Let the user decide what they want to enable and disable.

Users have been begging Serato for a "sort cues chronologically" feature for years now :-(

^^^ on SL.

Don't really understand what you're saying there... That feature has been in SL for about 5 years...

I'm sorry, my mistake, I meant "sort loops chronologically" has been requested for years now on SL.

We're hearing ya guys. Improved cue point functionality for ITCH is something we'd like too. It's good to hear everyones opinions.


I'm not sure what the story behind this is but I'll talk to the guys :)

Thanks Logan, appreciate it!

I think this was something to do with when we added the additional cue points for TWITCH.
We've taken a note of it though. I'm not sure when but in the future you'll be able to sort them again.

Labelling cue points is something that would be very useable, especially when dealing with 8 as i do nowadays on most tracks

Yeah we'd like to add this functionality also :)

keep hope alive!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, would be very handy.

I miss the dragging cuepoint feature , when in offline mode from the previous versions!

From a Dj standpoint, having the option to sort cues chronologiclally makes sense since they put the option in SSL, could never figure out why its not in Itch??

From a programmer standpoint, having the cues sorted chronogically may cause some issue with the programming because most controllers allow you to add cues on the fly to any desired cue button on the controller itself, example: I guess if someone has cues 1 and 2 setup and then on the fly adds a cue to cue button 4 on the controller itself but the timing comes before the time of cue 2, it might not have logic in place to shift the later cue point to a different position.

Now obviously this doesn't matter because Itch doesn't sort cues, it allows you to put whatever cue at whatever time to whatever button you choose.

I wonder if a quick fix to this problem is to just add whatever tracks you have to cue up to SSL, set the cue points then close it out, and then open itch and see if it sorts them correct.

Danny