Thanks for starting a new one DisGrace

Also, if you are an audio guy and not sure about video you can get both audio and video at
www.latenightrecordpool.com

They have smashvidz vidz, but only singles. It's a good way to get started if you're interested in video.

just asking, are you guys sure all those sites are legal?

Another way to get videos legaly is to individualy ask each label.
You can lock this thread and sticky it now. Nothing else needs to be added, no need for a long thread full of nonsense imo.

can we start a thread that does the video thing illegally ? LOL

Lvmez is right, a few of those sites are questionable. The thread should read "Most common places video djs can get content" ;)

yeah, I agree.

100% legal sites, that people actually use and get proper content:
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It's more of a summary of the sites from the last thread that weren't removed by mods...

mods? I haven't seen a mod here in forever...

What's that
MOD from my best buy days means
Manager of the Day.
I've seen more of those lately and I don't work or rarely shop at best buy.

From MY days of working at Best Buy...i thought MOD meant Manager On Duty

seriously. how do u know which one is really legal.

can we go to the universalrecords.com and see a xtendamix logo on their site? or go to sony and see a smashvidz.com logo somewhere?

Ahh my bad.
Manager on Duty, not of the day.

for those who are taking you serious.

MOD = Moderator of this forum. (Absent)

It is like a school without teachers... people posting whatever and no authority figures keeping order...

or at least that is what feels like...

maybe they forgot they actually have VSL as part of their product line now.... .. hmmm...?

Legal or not I just wanted a go-to list without Mr Fish's blasphemous comments

I know what it is in here, but yeah it feels like working with a substitute.

I know they are lurking, but rarely ever comment.

legal or not. i value all of the above thats been mentioned and have a sub. or buy videos on the regular. and could care less if they are or are not legal. how can i find out ? so fuck it. its all good in my book!

smash is the monster of the industry and if u consider urself a music video dj u MUST have them. second i think dtvideo is the icing on the cake for most people that wanna have upper bpm stuff. and then xtendamix to fill in the gaps. and then if u wanna "wow" ur crowds u go to all the pay per edit sites as mentioned.

dont forget about mixshowtools.com

Mixshowtools.com doesn't now how to edit videos and always, always, always have the improper A/R and dimensions, did I mention always?

that is true.

Occasionally they'll have some decent throwback videos, aside from that... Meh.

Yeah I got feelin myself by mac dre from there.

Franchise is another.

What about ''LEGAL Places to get Music Videos 2011 [Sticky] IF YOU LIVE IN THE UK'' ???

Only place i know of is i-tunes which is not great the audio is low quality and the video sizes are all over the place.

But i-tunes is the only download site i know of in the UK.

and DVD we have mixmash. which is expensive and not alot of good stuff on the discs.

Videopool and Promo Only U.K. should be available as well

does promo only still have there logo plasterd accross the videos?

I think it's a transparent watermark that comes and goes, but I know videopool stays though the entire video

just wish there was a GOOD download site. as the discs dont have alot of good stuff you would end up buying 4 or 5 discs just to get the tracks you want and that would cost shed loads.

Yeah any dvd only sites are gonna fall behind, or already are behind.
Even with weekly stuff, you're late to the party and the dvd format is shit compared to a properly rendered mp4.


I understand the need for dvds for bars and places to just want a visual, but any dj who just converts vobs to mp4's is gonna have improper dimensions and shitty looking videos (letterboxed)

So I'm just about to get into video and I would like to narrow it down to one or the other to start building my library properly, once I get used to it I can venture out, but right now my main concerns are professional quality with consistent file format.

I don't want zoomed in, cropped, ripped or any of that other nonsense in a video. I want proper aspect ratios and I would rather not go to one of these sites masquerading as a legal/pro site, while downloading from others and putting that content on their own shit. I find a lot of Dj's from the digital era automatically think that pay = legit/quality when it's not the case.

The two that stand out so far are Smashvidz and Xtendamix

Smashvidz looks decent as far as content is concerned, but they also look like they're using a lot of creative phrasing when describing the legitimacy of their site, plus I'd rather not pay 3 months in advance my first time out.

Xtendamix looks decent, appears to be legit but they use select mix/X-mix type stuff and I'm not really sure I want to be bound to that.

ERG, not sure I want to have to use a key, still researching this.

Are their any sites like an itunes (besides itunes) that legitimately sell videos by the single?

BTW if that Nicky Fish guy is around, don't bother. I saw your site on Google and passed before I even saw the thread here, your site is exactly the opposite of what I'm looking for.

dtvideos aren't bad either.

@DJ Shamann
SM by far is the best site (in US) to get videos, they are the ones who set the standards for everyone else who has follow! now if you are serious about videos and paying 3 months in advance for access to the largest library of videos makes you think about it, then i recommend to stay away from videos and just stick to music =)
Building a decent library of videos is not cheap buddy!! thats why you get to charge more for a video show than a regular music show (at least i do).
If you wanna question the legality of this and that site, good luck because the video show still new (even though its been around for some years now).

Hey DJMuErTe, thanks for the response. It's not the money, it's about committing to something I may not like for 3 months when I may get a week in and decide the site is not for me. I pay to play, with music, software etc.. the difference between this and software is with software I can for the most part check out a month long demo, and this is after me being an engineer for years so I generally know what I'm getting into with these programs but I still like checking under the hood before i go for a ride. Video on the other hand, I'm very much a wide eyed kid at this point and could get myself into something sheerly out of excitement and regret it later. This is where I'm coming from on this one,

And yes I'm aware of the stage we're in as far as video servicing is concerned (and the fact that there is not much out there to begin with) but I am trying to maintain a standard as far as consistency and quality goes so I guess I'm just looking for a more "ethical" (to use the term loosely) solution with a company who's standards are high when it comes to quality control. Again to draw comparison to software, I pay so I can rely, I don't like to have the slightest bit of uncertainty when I run a program, so I don't want to have to worry when running vids.

I hope that all makes sense, and yes I'm aware that I'm a wordy fucker, sorry about that ;)

Dj Shamann, try SM i know you wont regret it, like i said before they quality is without a doubt the best out there, and they dont only have the single version of the song, they give you a snip,extended,acapella,blend-x etc version of most videos so its worth it!
I like some of dtvideos but they change their system to pay per track and that i didnt like, (well maybe its ok) but 50sec preview of a song is not enough for me to decide whether or not i wanna buy the video, i hope they change that and give a full preview of their mixes.

If you dont like SV or XM, you'll never like anything regarding videos.

The only complaint I can even think of with regards to SmashVidz is once in a while a que point is in a weird place. And that is thinking long and hard about the subject. SmashVidz is worth every penny I spend on the sub.

I edit all my own stuff and I recommend the two that have been mentioned.

if you are worried about legality then I suggest you purchase from itunes.

For starting out you are best getting a pool

If you want top40 with electro and some old school every so often, get smashvidz.

If you are in Canada and want top40, electro, reggae (awesome reggae selection) and are more of a mobile dj, get xtendamix.

Try one of those and you won't be unhappy and as far as the 3 months goes, it's not even one gigs worth of pay for the 3 months.
Shit it will take you 3 months or longer to grab all the videos, and organize them.

You're wasting precious time.

+100 I had 8th wonder for some time and now that i have smash I am replacing the videos I had. With sv I don't have to spend time correctly tagging videos (Title, year, & genre are correct.) Maybe some cue point need adjusting , but if I need to drop a song having built in cue points help and I don't think any other sites is cosistent like that.

Not really, it wouldn't affect my gigs either way since right now this is just going to be for fun. On my list of things to purchase right now... Komplete 7 (full) PT 9, a word clock, both my M-Boxes are starting to show their age and acting cranky, new monitors, a controller. These will all help me make money faster than video, so I'm actually wasting time by going with video first, but for the sake of creativity I thought I'd start messing with video since I've been talking about it since DVJ's came out. (2002?). LOL I still have to actually buy the VSL plug-in as well, I just tried the demo the other day and had a blast so i figured I'd fuck around.

I have Dj City, 8th wonder, Franchise as it is, I have videos, but let's be honest with those two, they're not what I'm after in terms of quality and aren't primary video sites like Smash or Xtendamix.



I'm not so worried about that to be honest, call me crazy but I was offered two hard drives by two different Dj's and turned them both down because I like to build my own library and scan that shit personally to know I'm getting quality, and so i know what's in my library. Case in point I got Sean Paul's "We Be Burning" from on eof the sites I mentioned and the thing is fucked up, if I hadn't have been going through each one as I DL'd I may not have known.


Anyway, you guys have confirmed that it's either or so I appreciate that. I guess I was kind of looking more as far as pros and cons between the two, instead of pros and cons of Smash/Xtendamix vs. "the rest" since so far I haven't been happy with the others I've tried and already figured that out two days in (let alone 3 months which is why I don't feel like throwing more money around in a longer term commitment)

Also, I'm not concerned with who makes better edits, I'll be making my own. I do sound for film on the side so swapping out and re-editing the pellas, refixes etc, is a breeze for me.

So genre wise, content, variety is important, but the mention of itunes is what I'm interested in as well. I was figurig that which ever one I go with I could use itunes to pick up the slack but I read in the other thread that the sizes were all over the map.

Sorry about drawing this out guys, I appreciate your answers, like I said at the moment this is for a little fun and I know some of you have already tested the grounds as far as some of the good, and less than good sites and what you're really getting from experience (no website promo hype)

I'm not going to repeat what others have said about Smash and Xtendamix. They are without a doubt the best places to get video.

I will say that being a part of those pools makes being a video DJ fun. Whether it is some dug from the crates classic video or the latest Saturday Night Live skit, being a video DJ is a blast right now. Every week there is something new and exciting to download and it's not a bunch of garbage. Pretty much, it has to have some degree of quality for a video to be made for a song*.

It's the closest I have come to that feeling of digging for vinyl since I made the digital switch. I know my library much better. I only have useful videos in my crates. I feel more connected to the song when I have to work to get the video. When Xtenda or Smash posts some video to a song that I have the 12" for I feel like I just made the ultimate score in grandpa's dusty basement.

Every week I download new videos I feel thankful to the pools and editors making this craft what it is right now. FUN!


*not always, depending on the genre....

I just told my bro that this is the first time I've felt like I did back when we were 12 years old, Hip Hop was moving, it was exciting, we were learning scratching and everything was so fresh, and I've been after video for so long I just thought when I checked it out it, it would feel logical, especially since I already know what it's capable of. But now that I've touched it myself, fuck that it's like being a kid, we're down in his basement with a beer cutting up old Supercat videos and making the girls asses shake, got Run-DMC punching the air with the crazy hand gestures, it's awesome.

But yeah, i want to do this piece by piece with stuff I'm into just like as a kid, I'll get into all that other shit later, quality over quantity

virtual diggin for that old school video is fun, but sometimes time consuming

This is exactly how I feel too

bizzzump!!!

well... maybe the original post should be modified considering what UMG has done lately

I am not financially able to hire an attorney. Will the court provide me with a court appointed attorney? I plead not guilty... I swear when I bought the bartender vid edited with Obama that it was legal.
I thought Charlie Sheen was really part of the group. I didnt know your honor. I couldve swore Ozzy and Luda did do a song together. The webpage said 100% Legal. Please just give me one more chance. I promise I will go to law school and study for ten years to know for a fact whats legal and whats not. By the way can you release my hard drive and mbp back to me?

hahaha epic ..

Wonder which one of these will be the "new LEGAL MUSIC VIDEO Sticky" this one or this: serato.com

Anyway - feeling chatty tonight, aside from the golden blessed places that y'all like (Smash, Xtenda, DTV) - I guess I'll mention two or three more since nobody else has...

First, I'm kinda new to video mixing and my weekly residency turned into a bi-weekly (damn promoters) so i am still trying to get a urban video poppin in my area (soon). Since I am not working every week, but I have been staying kinda current and filling gaps in the library by using www.vjstreet.com (used to be 12inchvideo a while back, but name changed).

vjstreet.com uses a credit based system (think i12inch or what DTV tried to do a while back) but what is cool is it is kinda like a old school record pool where multiple versions of a song count as one credit (Inst, Clean, Xtended, Dirty all count as 1 download credit) just like a old 12 inch vinyl record.

Two of my favorite audio pools have branched out into video.

latenightrecordpool.com has a deal with smashvidz to allow its members to get the Clean Single Versions (only) of some of its content at no extra cost (No Xtend, Snipz, Blends, etc). If you need a few videos to go with your audio - seems to be the answer but if you need more - you can always go over to smashvidz and pay for a full membership and get the special DJ editz.

Also www.idjpool.com now offers video for it's members (or a video only package). Although a bit more expensive at $75 per month, it could be a contender for some by offering up Rock, Country, and Latin in addition to Dance and Urban video. The Urban side also offers DJ intro/Outro and DJ edits.

just adding to the list ...

Ooops sorry forgot Puma posted that.... (no spam)

: (

I'm a big fan of vjstreet.com. I just filled some major holes in my catalogue and added 350+ videos! The older ones have some inherent quality issues, but I am hyped about what I was able to find for $100 worth of download credits!

You're saying the videos they've added more recently are better quality? Or do you just mean the newer videos are better?

I got some stuff from them under their old name, but had a ton of quality issues (a lot of videos that were just unusable due to bad sound and/or bad sync), and their website at that time seemed to be malfunctioning more often than not. Wound up never getting anywhere near the number of videos that I'd bought credits for.

If things are better I might try them again...but my first experience was frustrating.

i def dont liek this credit system. these companies are afraid that people are gonna jump off for a couple months and then come back... and do it al over. its just part of business... smahsvidz def does it the right way, and dtvideo jumped back to that system as well

Credit system would only be good if you just need a few tracks here and there from that source, especially if you have other pools, video sources etc.

+ 1

Pumster is smarter than he lookie! Can't beat it to fill holes or just buy the highest plan and make that your monthly dues...

as a consumer, which i am, the credit system should be paid once and not end at the start of a month.
if i want to pay for credits they should not expire in 30 days.

^those are milky minutes mom, but they're still good minutes"

Agree - 30 day limit sucks - I joined i12inch (audio pool) when it first started to supplement my other pools - I didn't read the fine print and lost 10 credits because of the 30 day thing.

Traditionally (record) pools have been pay a monthly membership fee, take your 10 hot tunes and these 75 garbage tunes and see ya next month (with your fee)

The credit system lets you pick and choose what u want - if you slip and let credits expire - I guess that is how they make money .

or... you if it is a pay-per-track site (like ours)... you can buy discount credit packages and spend it whenever you want... the more you put into your balance, the more EXTRA FREE credits you get.... to get tracks WHENEVER....

jus sayin...

rarecrates.com

Nice and they don't expire (I'm assuming)
well at least not within 30 days.

no expiration... ever.... why would we do that to paying customers?

+1

what companies do have the credit system?
and which of those expire?

i12inch

www.vjstreet.com also has the credit system - I think levels are 25, 60, 100, and 200 videos with pricing @ $10, 20, 30, & $50.

It is tricky to gauge your buying habit vs the credit expiration so you don't lose it at the 30 day mark.

So out of these following sites which is the best site to buy your retro vidz from?
Smashvidz is the No1 site for urban and pop, What site is no1 for 50's 60's 70's 80's

Cheers
www.xtendamix.com
www.smashvidz.com
www.dtvideos.net
www.strictlyhits.com
www.yourremix.com
www.crooklynclan.net
www.8thwonderpromos.com
www.apple.com

do your homework man, some of these have been closed for months now. and the answer of your question is all over this place. Imma be XTremely cool and give you a hint though.

this threads starts to look like the audio threads where people ask, hey whats the best rnb to play, whats the hottest house track of 2011.... come on, it aint that hard to figure it out.
When Itch users will get on video in a few weeks, this forum will be full of bollocks

www.vj-pro.com

Hi Res You are rite.....we should do our homework, and this is what I'm doing by asking fellow DJs like yourself. The reason why I ask is because some vid sites you've got to pay before you can view. I just don't want to pay for site that turns out to be a lemon.

Huge waste of money.

Thank you for your advise, much appreciated :-)

Cheers Marx, thanks for the heads up

buy doing your homework res is asking you not to ask us and read the million other threads to find your answer. I for one am fine with you asking. I would rather see more smaller focused threads than ridiculously long ones.

My thread wasn't that long was it? And why can't I ask, if you don't ask you don't get.
I've also been reading the threads, and I have picked up loads of tips,and sites which I appreciate. Like I said The reason why I ask is because some vid sites you've got to pay before you can view. I just don't want to pay for a site that turns out to be a lemon.

This is why I ask
Cheers

No biggie Arki, but I just found it strange for you to post links to websites which were dead/down months ago, thats why I thought you didnt take the time to at least check them. If I'm wrong, sorry, didnt mean no harm.

Yeah I shouldn't of posted the dead links. My bad.
And Ive just been told www.vj-pro.com does not sell vidz outside the USA. Bummerrrrrr!!!!
I'm from New Zealand

www.RareCrates.com

more goodies adding soon...

Good looking out Al!

You may want to check out www.vjstreet.com - some old stuff up all up on there


^^^ Been checking them out more and more.... Some nice stuff also.

Word up Art....thanks for your info. RareCrates is great....it just need's more vidz

working on it daily... stay tuned... lots happening!

Good on ya AL!!! love your work

Thanks!

How is the Quality of their video's?

What site are you referring to?

Screenplay aka vj-pro

That would be the one

I couldn't sign up to vj-pro unfortunately, as it's only for users in the states.
I'm from New Zealand....do you know any other good sites?

I wanna know how is the quality of Videos at VJstreet.com? Are they on the same as Smashvidz?

Vj street quality is pretty good I like the site, it has hard to get urban vidz. Smash vidz doesn't exist anymore it's now Vj-pro

That's what I'm trying to say Vj-pro.......lol
I'll check it out coz I have Vj-pro as my main pool for videos right now and I need other sources for videos that they don't have (quality wise).

Thanks for the quick response.

What music generers are you after?

VJ Street quality on newer vidz are ok not as good as VJ-Pro. VJ Street has a great selection and hard to find vidz but you cant use the older ones because of the quality. VJ Street older classic videos are horrible.

The 80s90s vidz are okay

This is because most are Promo Onlys with their chyron cut out. Were talking about a video files thats been through half a dozen render/encodings.

I love VJ-Pro.....my only complaint is they have a lot of classic vids on their site that are missing download links. Just when you thought you found the vid you want, and you cant download it.

So Cruel lol

ay
vj-pro for the win
yep

That's because those are DVDs.
You have to remember that Screenplay was around before they joined up with Smash, so the stuff you're seeing is the Screenplay old DVD catalog.
Smash is doing some old stuff all the time, but you can't expect them to do everything at once.
They would have had to launch in 2014

Awesome info thank you. Big ups to the VJ-Pro crew

At the moment vjstreet is ok for alternative rock that vj-pro doesn't have as soon as they have it at Vj-pro I'm replacing it.......lol

Alternative rock

Give clubdjvideos a go theve got a nice collection

SMH.
Those are shady sites and that one above is no good.

Which one above?

clubdjvideos.com

Thanks for the heads up

lol....I guess It's only Vj-pro.

^In the US yes.

yea, bad. very bad.
wrong encoding, some vids look like absolute crap with horrible pixelation (youtube would be better) while others will simply crash ssl.