You're obviously a troll.

Your fake VCI-for-sale-because-S4-is-better has already been deleted, so stop it already.

sorry to hear you are not happy with your vci-300

why buy it if it didnt suit your needs? who buys equipment without researching first??

a troll lmao , ok mate settle your wee self down . the problem with my vci 300 mk 2 which is real by the way!!!!! is no effects unless u buy the vfx1 witch is 200 pound on top of the 620 i payed for the controller . totally digital sounding scratching in my opinion .( iv been djing since 11 have gelid residencies all over Scotland and used every thing from denon , technics to pioneer ) Just not impressed with the vci 300 mk2 , the mk2 for a start is a joke almost fake advertising really , i cant find the OPTIONAL fader that you can change or the OPTIONAL power supply on any sites either . total mince . the knobs on the eq are tiny and itch is really really boring and in my opinion way!!! behind scratch live or traktor its like a kids toy , one more thing it has no xlr out puts at the back and just seems really really basic . wouldn't recommend to any one other that hobby or bed room djs who r just into a bit of fun with there music collection .

i did reserch it , you never can be 100% sure about somthing untill you try it your self mate!! i was on the fence over the s4 or vci 300 mk2 . Clearly bought the wrong controler , money was an ishue too , if it wasnt id take the new cdj2000 and djm 2000 dude simple as this is what youll find in any decent club set up

have a lok at this blows the vci 300 out the water Watchwww.youtube.com

the s4 seems like a proper club worthy piece of kit the vci just doesn't come any where nere in features at all

nowhere does it say there are XLR outputs... yes that aspect is not too great. i run my vci through a basic mixer with balanced connections. and it is quite obvious that it does not have effects. that is why the vfx-1 is available. you say you researched it, but watching 1 youtube video would prove that there are no onboard effects. hell even looking at the box or the layout of the controller would prove that. it is quite obvious that you did not adequately research the product before spending money.

i hope you can return it and get something more suitable for your needs.

So, the S4 will be wrong for you, too. Just save for CDJs 450 with RekordBox.

PS Sorry I thought you were a troll, but I see you have a post history.

i don't like the cdjs 350 the nest nest cdj id buy would be the 900s , i also watch a tone of vci vids and thought id get by with out the xlrs but its a pain in the ass going through club mixers that are boxed in much better to go direct into the sound system .my point was that you didn't have to properly dj with traktor u could just sync then realised itch is basically the same in that way , just doesn't cut it in my opinion to the s4 after seeing what it can do . iv used serato for years buy the way so it would be nice if every time you post u didn't get a smart arse cheeky reply . I'm a turntablist and also techno dj it dosnt matter to me if its rane pioneer or vestax the point im making is i feel slightly ripped of in that i was going to get the i should have got the vci 100 mk2 with traktor or the s4 , but ill have to get rid of the vci 300 mk2 and save up for ages now for the s4 gutted

my original point also was can u use scratch live with the vci 300 ? i don't like itch , itch is like a rowing boat and scratch live a cruse liner the difference is massive . s4 has more fetchers like scratch live from what i can see , for the price an s4 unit has xlrs, efx , 4decks, better loop control and functions , compared to vci 300 mk2 itch and vxf1 you cant deny that im afraid dudes

The S4 has NO XLRs.

the price of vci 300 mk 2 and vfx1 is ~£844 pounds the s4 is only 749 and has all the extra stuff i cant see how no one else sees this its shocking really not happy with vestax at all total rip off , more to the point good luck to ever finding the optional extras on the vci , i think u need to use some mind jedi trick to find the (new magnetic fader & power supply ) that was advertised as need for the vci upgrade to work !!!!!!!! bad advertising

the s4 does dude go look at it

NO IT DOESNT www.disco3000.it

You should research more before committing to a product, otherwise it's going to be a collection of costly mistakes.

sorry its midi outs at the back of the unit so i take that part back but the rest remains the same really , oh theres no midi out on the vci either though right enough

you cant say much about the rest of the complaints though

hell the vci 100 mk2 would have even been better the the vci 300 mk2 , that doesnt make sence at all to me , here sir would you like to pay more for the bigger brother oh wait it has less fetures than the other one (doh) i bought the vci 300 mk2 then liike a month or two later the vci 100 mk2 comes out then the s4 blows them both away two months later ...............aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! £620 down

Mate, the VCI-300 is a 3 yrs old product (MKII is hardware lingo for "bugfixes").

3 years are a geological era. So, if you're looking for a reliable, straightforward replacement for CDs or vinyl, with plenty of space to move your hands on, get a VCI. If you want to be on the cutting edge of technology, get the latest. I'm on the V7s, a S4 looks more like a downgrade.

The software lags behind in some areas, while shines in others, like the GUI, and I tell you this as a former Traktor user.

the prob with the v7s is the cost for 2 and a mixer , same as the cost for the nx7 , vci 300 mk2 with the vfx 1 is still more xpensive than the s4 i just really whish i had waited for it now and feel slighty ripped off , also can any one tell me if u can use scratch live with the vci 300 itch is mince

All your complaints are about things you could have learned about the product before buying it, whether by looking up specs online or getting your hands on those tiny knobs first on a display model at a local shop.





Sell the VCI and you should be able to pay the difference with two or three half-decent gigs.

You didn't get ripped off. You bought the wrong product.

i dont dj in clubs at the min just gettingh back into it after 2 years , u cant buy vestax in glasgow no one sells them,

yep the difference in price to the fetchers yes in my opinion i was ripped off

honistly its like arguing with the makers of the unit or u guys have shares in the vci or something lol . its just been humped by the s4 and vci 100 mk2 get over it

i need to get rid of mine lol

I'd hate to see what happens after you buy a car.

are you teaching courses? because i'd like to know every trick there is to DJing on 2 decks too. must suck to outgrow it so quickly though with all that talent.

The things I find so funny is that there are so many people swinging on the Kontrol S4's nuts right now but when Serato announces their new units at NAMM it's going to be a total 180 and they will be dissing the unit. More features 99% of the DJs won't use do not make a unit better.

For the record I did own a VCI and returned it. I had no problem with the unit's features but did not like the sound quality. I looked into the S4 but I there are a lot of other factors to consider for me. Did I want to switch my library or deal with managing two libraries since I already use Scratchlive. What do I do about video since NI will NEVER support it? And so on...

It's 2 years now that I'm working 6 days a week with my Vestax Vci-300 I'm 30 years in this job and it's the first time that I am in love with a machine and a program, of course sometimes I had problems with software updates, but this happens to all software in the market.

the answer is no to your question ----
sorry now you know and can move on

lol thanks a wave of pointless so called djs giving there crap opinion on a crap unit lmao sad really . vci 300 = shit . its about as creative as a kids toy with itch . Another thing you can use traktor with the vci 300 y not scratch live . Serato Pull ur finger out , lagging behind the mark now i think . bridge is nonsense , itch not creative and boring and the NEW MK2 ( no real difference from mk1 ) Great !!!! doing well guys ........Aye right

Better being a "so-called-dj" than a "no-dj-at-all" like you, sir.

Fact of the matter is: YOU didn't properly research... and you bought something that didn't suit your requirements. Quit bitching, return it, and get something else. Your original "slight disappointment" has turned into a shit-tossing contest because people are blaming you for your own stupid mistakes... which is correct.

it's not the gear its the dj

really...?

You got this far and you STILL don't know how it works? It's a dedicated controller. ITCH more or less IS Scratch Live, designed to work WITH the controller already.

The VCI-300 has been out for how long, now? I bought mine almost two years ago. Things have changed, more competing products are on the market now, but my VCI has held up and still does what I want it to. And I only bring it to gigs where I'm either travelling or doubtful about the setup there - It's not perfect for every gig. But since you haven't been getting any for the past couple of years anyway, I still don't see how choosing the wrong product has put you out so much.

yes really you can do some creative things with a simple 2 channel mixer and two turntables and ITCH gives you more than that so to not be creative has nothing to do with the gear a person aka the dj is creative the gear is not

I just like messing with some of you guys. ;)

i know sometimes i just like giving you some thing to mess with

kk :D

itch is no where as good as scratch live its a watered down crap version with no effects and basic set up . I chose not to gig in the past 2 years as i have a new son . i have been a full time dj working every night 5 to 6 a week for 5 years in a row , so you can settle your wee bed room mixing opinions down there pal . lol , some you you really crack me up . YAWN !

its not a case of bitching is it its a case of im saying the gear does not live up to what it says it does and a few months after buying it the market as kicked its ass quite literally . the problems is you cant have a negative opinion or speak your mind about a vci 300 or itch with out . A) getting a srtaight answer or B) some geek how spends to much time on a mince controller never gigged or spun on a decent set of decks in his life crying his eyes out over what you've said and feeling the big man as he sits his keyboard on his match stick legs to give u abuse lmao ... priceless

No effects? You're wrong.

Basic setup? You clearly don't understand the philosophy behind ITCH, which is a professional product used by working professionals all around the world, not just bedroom DJs like you.



It lives up 100% to what it says it does.

You had the chance to order a S4 that clearly fits YOUR needs better, and opted for the VCI instead, a 3 years old product. It's 100% your fault.

It happened to me, too, with other expensive gadgets, but coming to the product's forum spraying shit on it only screams "hey look I'm a dumbass!"

lol yeah it has efx for and extra 200 quid , oh yeah and in invisible power supply that doesn't exist or so called new xfader . get over it the vci sucks ass mate . your flogging a dead horse i would be djing all over the place 5 years in a row in night clubs holding residencies if i couldn't dj don't flatter your self you idiot

i repeat, IT HAS FX, and I mean onboard, precisely a LPF and HPF.

you obviously don't use to research enough.

what the hell are you on about .

go search the forum and find it yourself.

you need the vfx 1 which is an extra £200 taking the vci 300 mk2 and vxf 1 to £844 , 100 more expenssive than the s4

i have nothing there , so show me then smart ass !!

vci 300 mk2 needs the vfx 1 as far as i can see

smarter tahn you, it's sure. Go search for superfilter and wash your mouth.

mate if your on about total kills ont he mixer , i dont call that efx , lmao your a total idoit

Yes I must be an idiot as I'm trying to help a person like you.

really clutching at straws to try in justify your self aren't you . bet your a total geek never left your wank cave or gig ed any where . im off cant be arsed with you lame back and forth boring chat enjoy the rest of the idiots on this post :) lol. 1 ur maw

www.djtechtools.com

You managed to break #1 rule of this forum (a rule that you've accepted while signin in) while looking totally dumb simultaneously. Nice job! :-)

yeah right www.facebook.com

and your piont is what lol yawn youv noty showen me fuck all dude ,

my point is that the VCI-300 has built in FX.

lmao loving this dude , got me laughing , im gona try this efx out , if it works i take that bit back lol . thanks for the info mofo

@ Cerla, You don't need to prove yourself. We all know who you are.
Djjamesslaven is the one who's frustrated. He should take the consequence of his purchase and count himself responsible for it. He should be aware that Itch is not the solution for every DJ's. I only know it(ch) is the correct solution for me...

@djjamesslaven: If you feel like the S4 is your thing, sell the VCI and switch over. just stop getting personal towards our forumusers. It is not pleasant for you or the ones that are targetted nor the people who read this.

dude if your easily offended by what you read or think that in any way this is personal or serious you need to get out more

www.letsmix.com

have a listen this is what i like to spin , i also scratch this is all im saying i think the s4 is more adapted to this and should have waited lol

Watchwww.youtube.com

or is the answer larger knobs for the vci 300 and a vfx 1 ?

one of the reasons I like this forum is because DJ's (beginners and veterans) help each other together with the serato team in a friendly and colleague-like way.
If you address to people like mofo, verbally pee on them, or whatever, then you disturb that atmosphere which I don't like at all then I tell you... It's called "being assertive". Also note that I speak to you in a respectful way...

ok sorry dude , i say mofo to my friends as a joke and a laugh .

Ok, that explains ;-)
(might be usefull to skip that word in future posts? I'm pretty convinced, I'm not the only one reading it as an insult. :-D)

right i must be a dumb ass indeed , i done what its says , twist the knobs till its says press alt + , then when i press it i get 3 hot cue lights on teh controler but no effects ? not sure wtf happing?

ok dude by the way am a white guy from glasgow scotland , i just say that as stuff as a laugh ,

that's odd, I tried now with my NS7 and it works just fine

ok done exactly what it says in the link you send dude , got the msg and then when i hit alt , i get a yellow marker on the wav where i hit it and the hot key slight up, when i turn the bass mid or high they do exaclty what they did before and the hot keys work like hot heys lol ...mmmmm not sure whats going on

using vci 300 mk2 and itch ver 1.7 .0 doesnt seem to work

it just seems to be a short cut to set cue pionts

still no efx :(

superfilter should be on your bassknob.

Watchwww.youtube.com

holy shit balls ..... its working hahahah

can any deliver a big fuk off chunk of humble pie !!!

ok dudes been a cock sorry fokes , so u think i should buy a vfx1 rahter than selling the vci 300 and get ting a s4

If I was you, I'd patiently search for a cheap used VFX1 on ebay, practice the combo, then decide

here's what another guy from the UK, DJ Kutski, does on the VCI-300, pretty sick stuff Watchwww.youtube.com

Watchwww.youtube.com

well, the thing is... As I read your background, you're kinda have an old school background with traditional gear just like Cerla and myself. (playing with TT's CDJ, Denon-pioneer stuff etc...)

Itch is more starting from that point of view, compared with the Traktor system.
Look at traktor as a live "chop it up and rebuild" approach,
while Itch is more like a "digital version of traditional analogue gear" approach.
Altough you can live chop and rebuild aswel with Itch but currently it is less focussed on that.

But, Serato Itch will probably change dramatically within the next updates...with loads of new features.
VCI is nice for some of us, the VFX does add a lot of expression (it is a really sophisticated fx controller).
So I'd wait a bit as future seems brite... you might wanna test the FX controller first?
Try find a cheap controller on ebay or something... (just suggesting)

Personally I went from VCI to NS7 towards finally 2xV7's as my ultimate matey for performance...(combined with a pioneer DJM800)
V7 has it all + built in fx which are not so sophisticated as the VFX but very usefull indeed...

Hope this helps you decide?

wow !!!! thanks for that feed back . total respect for your exelant comments . yeah id love the ns7 or v7s and a good mixer but the pennies are tight so have so i supose the vfx is the next thing to get then

Also an interesting approach of using the VFX controller. This is something the other FX controllers of Itch can't do because they don't have that many controllable parameters as the VFX has...

Watchwww.youtube.com

i listened to your mixes and will tell you there is nothing that you can not do that u are doing now with the vfx-1

meaning if you own the vci-300 instead of selling it you will probably benifit from getting the vfx-1,

i know this is said a lot but 2.0 is sure to be here soon--- serato is watching the compitition and i would hate to see you come back on these boards next year complaining that serato waited till you sold your vci-300 and now you wish you had one

I'm a total noob to DJing but I recently got a VCI-300MKII and the VFX-1 and I've been throughly impressed so far. Now granted this *IS* coming from someone who is just starting out but the VFX-1 seems to really be a great addition to the VCI. I really had no need to even get the VFX-1 with my skill level but I got an excellent deal and decided to just go ahead and get them as a package.

I rarely even generally touch it as it seems currently every time I do I just muck up my mix even more. hahaha I'm having a blast though, learning, and slowly improving. I hope that soon enough my abilities will be good enough for me to be really stoked that I went ahead and purchased the VFX-1.

welcome to the club mwstratton.
The vfx-1 is pretty nasty stuff. I have one myself and you you can do neat tricks with it. I only think it is a bit too complex for my personal taste. (I like the simple on/off efx)
Anyway, take your time to master it and I'm pretty convinced you will soon be able to handle your stuff on a much higher level ;-)

Thanks kmxorbit,

The journey's only just begun for me but after 5 days or so of being really basic I'm really starting to have a blast. I'd finally get tracks on beat then be afraid to do ANYTHING other than just let them play because "OMG THEY'RE ON BEAT AND IT DOESN'T SOUND ATTROCIOUS!" Well, yesterday I finally broke down an was like "alright, this is good n' all but I really need to grow a pair and start mixin' it up.

Two hours later with the same two tracks and I was really starting to do some things that sounded modestly decent and at that point it was over. I had to play those tracks just one more time, an just one more time, perfecting it just a little bit more.

I'm hooked.