@BERTO you can even slap together a (under) $40 dollar gimick using Proms and TTLs but in the end you get what you pay for. So WHY?????

When you can have support and updates plus moving platters instead of something that looks like it just sits there and the only thing remotely animated is the DJ.

well personally for backup system, i wouldnt drop a grand on something id mess around with once in a while

When you buy a controller that uses ITCH, than you are also purchasing the software as well. This gives the controller a "expensive" price tag.

i think you found out your problem right there Berto, ITCH controllers and software are not designed to be a cheap backup system, you can probably get away with a typhoon, numark omni control or something of that nature.

there is no "ITCH LE" to use with a cheap controller.Most of the other controllers comes with a LE version of traktor or VDJ.

alright ill stick to SSL thanks

I'll sell you a mouse that works with ITCH for $300...

-KLH

Not in these economic times..

... but it's a DJ MOUSE!

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-KLH

ahhaha KLH always coming up with this gadgets.

Man that is some funny sh!t. That made my day. ;-)

@KLH
LMFAO, LOL, LMAO, (catching my breath while holding on to a wall) LMAO
Oh smack my cheeks hurt!!!! LOL, (trying to maintain myself at gigle level) LMAO

ok (regained composure)

I needed that laugh bro. I think I burned about 9 thousand calories. Although everybody in my class thought I went balistically insane. (I am at school right now between classes)

@ KLH How much for the DJ USB cable that works with I.T.C.H.?

@DJFrancoV true. Hope this helps the bro in his question or search.
@Berto we are not bashing you (we are just a silly crowd at times due to the lack of sleep and intensively high decible levels of sound we are constantly exposed to. (hope you understand) In addition we pretty much have became good with the notion that you truley get what you pay for. In all honestly and respect it cost companies money to develop (pay the programmers, design teams and engineers) to embed all the advanced bells whistles to any device. They would be getting the short end of the stick if they sold all of that on the cheap. (although we would love them for it but it would be truely unfair and perhaps a finacial catastrophe of epic biblical porportion exceeding any pain any group, planet, human, in-human or animal has ever felt except for Enron, BP and a few others ......

Sorry got carried away (I'm bored)

But you get my drift. (I Think)

what about the vestax typhoon? its pretty much the same as vcl3000 ....

like i said if you are looking for cheap, portable, and something that does the job you can look into the typhoon or omni controller, i've used both and they basically "do the job", the typhoon even provides mic input, its light and can be used without an ac adapter just with usb power like the vci.

whats the difference with typhoon and vcl ? except software and price

construction

didnt know that

i want a vci-3000 :)

lmao...it hast 10 outputs and 10 decks

you itch fanboys crack me up get some turntables i come in to ask a question and you guys make jokes

dude calm down your question was answered btw i have turntables

so you understand then the need for an economic back up solution....
thats all i wanted ill stick to my 56 and SSl though thanks for all the info everyone


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sorry didnt mean to hurt your feelings

no feeling hurt its the same on the Dj discussion, itch boys get trashed there so its mutual

Now that you've given some context to your question, I feel the need to answer within the same context.

I've often given thought to purchasing another ITCH device as a backup. However, over the past year, I've just come to the conclusion that for my mobile gigs, running an iPod is enough of a backup AT THE GIG. Now if I needed something more - for reliability reasons, I'd probably go the three V7s and two mixers route. That way, I'd (assumably) always be able to perform.

As I'm more of a mobile DJ than Club DJ, I have the luxury of not signing up for gigs that I don't want to do... so just using an iPod works for me.

Would a $300 basic ITCH device be a great thing for a backup? Sure... but wouldn't the cost-cutting required to HIT that price negate the quality enough to make the product itself suspect? I guess what I'm saying is that I'd rather buy a used VCI-300 instead of relying on an inexpensive device - because I know that the VCI-300 has quality construction.

-KLH

makes sense i use an ipod with back-up mix to my auxiliary as well also bought a small mixer for other purposes such as mics and stuff

^ Yep. Check out the compact Behringer and Mackie mixers. They're <$100 and give you lots of features. Just remember that you want balanced outputs.

-KLH

I use a Mackie 4 channel mixer, i choose it over Behringer because the marketing video from Mackie had a truck running over the damn thing and it still worked! In general I find Mackie quality to be better than Behringer's.

there are two different types of backups though... an ipod is great for a usb dropout or computer crash ... but what about hardware malfunction.... a broken needle and drink spilled on a mixer or the like.... that is where the vci-300 becomes the ultimate backup....

i like itch.

turntables + sl1 >= $2000, vci-300 = $400-800, itch = more economical than sl.

thought this thread died like two months ago, i was referring to a back up system

Why don't you just get a Mixdeck. It will work with SL

Or 1 V7 and use your mixer, even more economical

Huh? Oh, you mean playing timecode on the MixDeck. That's a real funky way of having a backup, IMHO.

-KLH

Works just like a CDJ, doesn't it. Just put in the timecode CDs, connect the outs to SL1 or SL3 and voila. Not the most economical way, but considering OP already has an SL box, for $699 it aint bad. If I had an SL box already, I'd def go that route.

You need to connect the CD1 out and CD2 out to the Input 1 and Input 2 on the SL1.

Connect the LINE1 and LINE2 outputs on the SL1 to the Aux 1 and Aux 2 inputs on the Mixdeck, and set the little tab switches under the ground posts to "Line" and not "Phono."

The only thing you won't be able to do is play normal CDs when the SL1 is connected, as Mixdeck doesn't have another set of inputs, so you'll have to swap RCAs wires around if you want to play normal CDs.

Again, that's a real funky way of having a backup, IMHO.

-KLH

What's funky about it, out of curiosity. Please explain

SSL is an augmentation to a TT or CDJ based system. That setup inherently has a backup of the sound source (the other TT or CDJ) and has a single-point-of-failure (the mixer).

I say "real funky" because adding a MixDeck to an existing SSL system as a backup triples the backup of the decks while simultaneously ignoring the true single-point-of-failure: the mixer.

Truth being said, most analog mixers are fairly bullet-proof. Now that traditional setups are transitioning to digital mixers, this may no longer be the case. Time will tell. Until digital mixers are reasonably as bullet-proof, I say carry an extra mixer.

If you're looking at the MixDeck as a replacement for the traditional setup and adding SSL - so that you're using SSL with the MixDeck directly - I say that you're firmly off the beaten path. IMHO, you're not getting the true benefits of a traditional system - because you're using an almost-all-in-one controller instead of TTs or CDJs - and you're not using the software that was the controller was designed for.

But to each his own. I certainly shouldn't judge the way others roll - unless you play Justin Beiber more than once a night. If you do, you should be forced to sell all of your equipment and have your DJ license revoked.

-KLH

PSSL (www.pssl.com) just advertised the v7 for $399!!! That's pretty tempting.... Perhaps price drops are the answer to the S4?

...$399 is pretty economical IMO... and it's a great product. You can purchase a cheap mixer and be good to go...

Yeah, where's BERTO when we make sh*t happen???

-KLH

Mail in rebate, but impressive nonetheless. Free case too. Helluva deal. Take your $400 savings and buy a mixer if you don't already own one.

Isn't that right about the price range of the X5? Hmmmmmmm...

-KLH

SSL with the Mixdeck actually is a very decent solution. I have it as a back up and what many people don't realize is that you can use USB thumbdrives with the control signal and use that as the timecode, freeing up your CD decks. Using many different cdjs (primarily Pioneers) i can honestly say that although still a numark... the Mixdeck cdj platters are VERY similar to Pioneer 400's.

I have to agree, although a lot of their hardware is plastic, the jogs feel pretty solid and I've heard nothing but good things about them considering the price...

the mixdeck is the most returned unit due to needing repairs at my local samash ----

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lol... wow... my bad... I guess mixdecks are being treated like NS7s... Which I know it's definitely not... But still, I think it's a decent backup plan... or startup unit.

right thats my point not saying anything but it may not survive heavy dj manhandling