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[VIDEO] --- Guest DJ Using SERATO WITH VIDEO @ My Club Last Night...

DjWoody 1:36 AM - 3 March, 2007
WTF!!!

Some guest DJ was using SERATO With Video at my club last night. He said this was an earlier beta and it was a project that Serato was working with Virtual DJ. He also mentioned that this is completely different than SSL 1.8. If you look at the video, you notice the VDJ interface, with the Serato Hardware. Hmmm interesting!

djwoody.com

BTW, I tried uploading the video to YouTube and Google and it keeps stalling. :( So, too bad so sad, you'll have to download the hires file.
DjWoody 1:40 AM - 3 March, 2007
Oh yeah! One more thing, if you notice, he was using a Pioneer DJM800 mixer to control Virtual DJ.
allenbina 1:51 AM - 3 March, 2007
old news. try scratching with vdj, its a disaster.
a-swift 2:20 AM - 3 March, 2007
woody, the virtual dj software has supported the SL-1 as a soundcard for quite some time now. vdj has not been working with the serato guys to make this happen. vdj simply reverse engineered a way to use the serato box like any other soundcard.

you also saw the same thing at my house last weekend, using vdj with a serato box.
DjWoody 2:42 AM - 3 March, 2007
I wasnt aware of that. And the reason why I said that, was cause he told me he beta tests for Serato or Rane, one of those two. Maybe Serato can clear this up. :(

I wasnt at your house when you guys did the videos. :( Swift, how stable is VDJ? I've been looking for a video solution for quite some time. I know my clubs will pay me more if I do video.
sixxx 2:47 AM - 3 March, 2007
Doh! I think LOTS OF US beta test for Serato. :)
D-Twizzle 2:51 AM - 3 March, 2007
I like how he's pretending to beatmatch and cueing the next song in the headphones, but the right deck isn't moving yet.
a-swift 11:14 AM - 3 March, 2007
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Swift, how stable is VDJ? I've been looking for a video solution for quite some time. I know my clubs will pay me more if I do video.


probably the first person on these forums to realize that clubs pay more for video dj.

anyway, vdj is stable enough. spend enough time with it and figure out what makes it crash, then don't do those things while djing and you'll be fine. i've used it since forever and i'm pretty sure i have a good handle on all the crashes. i don't do those things so it never crashes on me. the second half to that equation is you need a REALLY fast computer to mix videos smoothly. think of the fastest compuet you'd be willing to purchase and now double to specs for performance. now you can mix videos with vdj.
nik39 1:20 PM - 3 March, 2007
a, whats the things which make vdj crash?

Woody, I dont think Serato needs to clear this up, because its obvious this is not Scratch LIVE software that dude is using. If you check out the Scratch LIVE video software (which is still not finished yet) it looks very different (search the forums for the vids).
a-swift 5:34 PM - 3 March, 2007
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a, whats the things which make vdj crash?


things that have been mostly fixed over the years. there still at least two nagging ones that remain though. using their virtual folders (think crates) at all will cause the interface to freeze up, activating the sonique plugin while video is playing are two that are still nagging and will cause crash. there's also some midi related and maybe a few others that don't and won't affect me since i don't use midi.
allenbina 1:32 AM - 5 March, 2007
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a, whats the things which make vdj crash?.


when you load a video to a deck, it loads it into the ram. if you have a huge file, it takes forever to load and it hogs all the ram. you need AT LEAST 2 gigs of ram, or else you're going to have a lot of issues. If you have folders with over 1000 files in them, it freezes up the system a little while it loads the folder. Its more of a toy than anything, but when used properly, its fun.
a-swift 2:02 AM - 5 March, 2007
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a, whats the things which make vdj crash?.


when you load a video to a deck, it loads it into the ram. if you have a huge file, it takes forever to load and it hogs all the ram. you need AT LEAST 2 gigs of ram, or else you're going to have a lot of issues. If you have folders with over 1000 files in them, it freezes up the system a little while it loads the folder. Its more of a toy than anything, but when used properly, its fun.


all true, i know. so i have 2GB of ram and i keep my files in a sensible folder layout to not crash the program.
DJ_X_Trodinaire 4:13 AM - 5 March, 2007
Watchwww.youtube.com saw this vid awhile ago but i did no see a SSL box
Dj KaGeN 6:11 AM - 6 March, 2007
If you have folders with over 1000 files in them, it freezes up the system a little while it loads the folder.

Is this issue only onload - or will the circumstances perpetuate over time when revisiting the folder.
Dj KaGeN 6:12 AM - 6 March, 2007
Does this mean I need to break up my hip hop and house folders to; example: hip hop a-p & hip hop q-z ?
eder 11:49 AM - 6 March, 2007
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If you have folders with over 1000 files in them, it freezes up the system a little while it loads the folder.

Is this issue only onload - or will the circumstances perpetuate over time when revisiting the folder.


the bad thing about VDJ is that i still haven't found anyway to build overviews etc, so each time you load a song, it builds them all over again. correct me if there's any way to fix this. and yeah, 2gb ram MIN and a damn good vid card (or hacked drivers for us laptop people)
dj-in-norway 2:37 PM - 6 March, 2007
@Eder

VDJ only build (analyze) overviews first time you load a NEW song to a deck, and the overview is saved within XML file.

Second time you load that song, its the progress bar of load-to-ram you are seeing.


Same goes for SSL
a-swift 4:26 PM - 6 March, 2007
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Same goes for SSL


that's incorrect norway. the overview built ssl files load instantly.

while the ssl overview takes much longer to build than the vdj "analyze", the subsequent ssl loads are instant, while the subsequent vdj loads take about the same amount of time as the first time, even after the file has been "analyzed".

i can make a video to show you if you like.
kicko 6:34 PM - 6 March, 2007
anyone interested in a video solution i saw agiprodj has numark cue for $219 shipped.
a-swift 6:53 PM - 6 March, 2007
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anyone interested in a video solution i saw agiprodj has numark cue for $219 shipped.


numark cue is vdj, talked about plenty on here already.
kicko 6:58 PM - 6 March, 2007
yes i thought we all already knew that, i was just droppin' the sale science
a-swift 7:04 PM - 6 March, 2007
my bad.