These people just need to get a recalibration in what a "DJ" is...just suggest a thorough reading of this:

www.amazon.com

u know the guy that said serato wouldnt be used by real djs? he a joke!!! lol!!! it cracks me up how people can be sometimes.
obeuslly hes never used the product or he would know what he is missing wouldn't he? id think so. jeeze.

think before you type or stfu

A real DJ would never live in Canada. :P

any problem with me?
Quebec stand up :P

respect the 3 rules on the board sixxx plz

wtf :o
MTL stand up :o

Obviously Q styles you did not read what I wrote I did NOT say that using a Serato made djing EASIER I said " SINCE WHEN did using a serato make djing easier " Key words "Since when"
Read before you type we actually both agree on the same thing.

Van City :)

e-TOWN

given their shitty trendy-electro/house remix/mashup of Flock of Seagulls and their subsequent claim that it is "one of the best records you will ever hear" I wouldn't really put too much stock into their opinions.

Not all DJs are technically savoy.
I find most people that feel this way just can't afford to make the investment in Scratch LIVE and a laptop, or else lack the basic computer skills needed to operate ANY software program.

I've seen it with my own eyes, and usally my response is, "why have you not switched over to Serato Scratch LIVE".

They usually reply with the truth, "I don't know dick about computers".

their whole style is extra-hot wack garbage, and I would never waste my bandwidth downloading that shiz. I had to hit the mute button when i surfed to their mysp page.

oh, and I switched to serato and dont use my vinyl anymore. it hasnt gotten any easier, in fact, its gotten harder ( I JUST HAVE A SHIZLOAD MORE MUSIC NOW WHOO HOO!)

ahhaa yeh right...then tht guy hvnt heard any house or electro tunes to begin with....his track aint all tht great...i even doubt if thts his track...

and him sayin real djs dnt use serato? watevaaaaaaaaaa....probably we should let him know that sasha uses serato too...he is a house/electro/progg dj...then tht guy wud jus keep his mouth shut...now he cnt say sasha is fake can he?

Canada: Need I say More......

I concur Sixxx, try living in Florida most of your life having these pricks come down and steal your sun and females.....

here we go again...

I adore vinyl - I switched to Serato begrudgingly - my partner is a record store owner and he's definitely been feeling the hit from the proliferation of digital dj solutions and I do believe that Serato is a large part of the reason that vinyl is in a sharp downswing... I fully intend on still buying vinyl 80% of the time and just ripping tunes I buy (mmm... fresh pressing vinyl rip).

That being said, I still think that guy is a huge douche.

well, I think it would be more relevant if he realized that Diplo uses Serato - much more of a hipster icon... Sacha's uses the word "progressive" without any irony is definitely a nono among hipster douchebags.

I wonder if they know how to beatmatch? I hear it's the hot new shit.

oh yea - vancouver whut...

i wish there was an edit feature...

could care less about canada.....but i gotta give mad props to a-trak

i like Canadia and Canadians but:

given the myspace page and the music on it, its obviously some kind of joke- i hope.

i have thousands of records and serato. i like both.

oh yea, and if they are serious, id smoke those kids on whatever. they can pick the format.

god, what a candy-ass remix.

Quick, someone hand me glowsticks!!!!

Before you start whining about pity little shit and the rules of the forum and all this BS... the joke as in (:P) about canada was done because they're from Canada.. nothing else...

It was a joke... so check your tampons before you post.

i think that scene has less to do with rave and more to do with vespas...

oh...those cats are from toronto...nuff said. Nicest dj's i met in canada were from montreal & vancouver.

That Flock of Seagulls track is okay, I like the concept but it drones on and on.

The percussion line sounds suspiciously similar to High Caliber's "Shakedown" sped up a bit. Correct me if I am wrong. Where's the originality? I wonder if High Caliber is okay with that?

Show Canada some love.....We're all family. Those dudes are uninformed thats all....No need for the steady hate against Canada as a country...lol

this kid that works for me started djing on serato, knew nothign about it b4 and started straight on serato. it annoys me becuase he stares at the waveforms on the screen instead of actually listening to the music and mixing. he has improved alot tho.thats about the only credit ill give to serato for making it easier. mixing is still mixing regardless, i still consider it to be an art.....

i know that angry kid ... complete and total joke ... he cantevenmix 2 records togther .... he's been laughed out of every club hes played in ... he filled for meonce and the owner called me at midnight and told me that he'd rather shut the night down right then and than listen to him play any more songs ... apparently he would play out whole songs leave dead air and then start the next song cold .... lol ... what a joke

What a HORRIBLE remix!

Real men wouldn't let us do that...

Need I say more?


;p

Damn that no-edit feature!

AGREED, A-TRAK IS SICK

Vancouver here

serato makes djing easier. sorry fellas. i was using vinyl for over ten years and then switched to serato. why do i think it makes it easier? first off. i used to have to carry atleast one crate of records to work.(40 pounds i don't know what that is in kilograms, but it's more than a laptop) at most 8 crates.(do the math, i did that 5 nights a week for dumb long) now after 2 years of djing with serato i've become a fat bastard, but i'm getting back in shape, whatever, that's neither here nor there. reason 2 why it makes djing easier. it took me years to get my tracks on vinyl. when i started using SSL, i copied my homie's hard drive. it took about an hour. reason 3. i used to have to remember where to drop the needle on the actual record when i wanted to do quick mixes. now i have cue points, when i press a button , viola, i'm right where i want to be. man , i could keep going on, but i think you get the point. now the disclaimer. don't get me wrong, i fukin' luv SSL... it's the best. Why? cause it makes my LIFE so much easier... last, i consider myself a real dj, i've put some serious time into this , it' my career. so real djs do use SSL.

the only reason i bought serato was so that i didn't have to bring 2-5 crates to every gig i played. I'd say it's making djing easier for me...

a real dj what never ever use the the phrase "real dj"

..doh :p

stop justifying for using serato and leave the conservative guys who lost their jobs to u bitch a bit.. now they dont have any other way left to express themeselves :-)

there are pro and cons for both

One I agree Serato is the way of the future...... anyone who gigs will see this while the investment to get the initial gear is pricey it should pay for it self pretty quick. One for turntables it expanded the capabilities being able to set loops and non skip scrathing and Keylock.... that alone is worth the investment

you will spend more time organizing your music with serato period. the end result is still the same You have to spin the records!!

My 2 cents..........

Does SSL make djing easier IMO i would have to say yes but on.ly to a certain extent!

When i first got SSL i never used anything but absolute mode, when spinning like that it made no difference (As i am not a microwave dj and dont use the waveforms to beat match)

But for maybe the last month or 2 i have been using relitive mode (i know i was incredibly stupid to overlook this mode but thats for another thread) and since i have been using this and saw the potential i am fully converted!

But back on topic i would say it is easier to produce the same set on SSL as with vinyl, but and this is a big but!! Since i have been rocking relitive mode i have been able to mix in a way that to me was not possible with standard vinyl!

Therefore my sets are better and more complex thanks to SSL and not only that the crowd also appreciates it alot more!

Yeah, I don't understand some of the hate that relative mode gets! Makes no sense to me! I'm guilty too cuz when I first got SSL I had no desire to use relative mode at all. But now its my first choice.

I came from vinyl and transitioned to CDJ's and now SSL on Techs. Serato has made me an even better DJ. With my setups I always felt like something was missing, but now I finally feel that this is it! My permanent setup.

I guess in closing, as a DJ, SSL has the POTENTIAL to make your job a bit easier. However, you still have to possess the same things any successful DJ needs (at least what I think) a love of music, a love of people, a knack for song construction and patterns and a desire to entertain.

However, no matter how many electronic toys or widgets you have they all must adhere to the GIGO principle! SSL is no exception. Nuff said!

well... maybe... he has.. 1 cd player.. aaaand doesnt want to.. c-ut a so-ng... offffff

ha, i think you were joking, but i can see why you would write that... My post sounded mad, self righteous..

i think some people confuse ipod dj's with serato dj's
i always use tt's or cdj's with serato when i play out.
it's the ipod dj's that mess it up for us.
they dont mix or scratch

real dj wont dissin' SERATO. :p

LOL

"LAPTOP DJ's. NO MATTER WHAT SYSTEM YOU USE- WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALL OF YOU. EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF YOU. REGARDLESS, OF WHERE YOU PLAY. IF YOU PLAY IN YOUR BATHROOM, OR PLAY CLUB GIGS FOR $10 A NIGHT- YOU ARE MAKING A MOCKERY OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC. WE DON'T LIKE YOU.
TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES....CAUSE AIN'T NOBODY ELSE LISTENING!"

Is this some kind of sick joke.The laptop is beside me but my 1200's are right in front of me freekin' morons!I bet there using CD players saying they're keeping it original.

"LAPTOP DJ's. NO MATTER WHAT SYSTEM YOU USE- WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALL OF YOU. EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF YOU. REGARDLESS, OF WHERE YOU PLAY. IF YOU PLAY IN YOUR BATHROOM, OR PLAY CLUB GIGS FOR $10 A NIGHT- YOU ARE MAKING A MOCKERY OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC. WE DON'T LIKE YOU.
TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES....CAUSE AIN'T NOBODY ELSE LISTENING!"

somebody must have been listening when Rane came out with SSL!!!!! Who ever wrote the above can go F*CK themselves.......

lol all music nowadays are made using computers....

for everyone that says people who use serato aren't dj's and you have to spin "real" vinyl to be a DJ... you're lame... if you want to be orig than go play everything off 8-tracks, a reel-to-reel or get use to technology.

by the way... this is the serato forum.. so if you dont like using computers, then dont come around here... (duhhhh)

Those guys make a mockery out of Flock of Seagulls using electronic music...what's their excuse?

did i miss the part where the said "A REAL DJ WOULD NEVER USE SERATO"

thanks.

wow i'm cluless i guess. i dont see it, oh well.

I guess this guy has changed his My Space info due to so many responses to his ignorance!!!
Wow if you were such a great DJ, you would stand by your own words. Obviously you cannot compare yourself to any other well known Dj regardless whether they are djing in clubs or in there bathroom the DJ's you are talking about have more experience then your 1 year experience.
Hanging out with DJs for the last 15 years doesn't make you a DJ maybe a wonna be but definitely not a DJ. I would suggest not worrying about making a mockery out of electronic music but worry about the DISGRACE you make of yourself and your poor producer who is talented and is getting a bad rap for associating himself with you.
P.S. $10 is better then playing for FREE like you are known to do so you have nerve talking about others.
Obviously someone is listening cause you keep responding to the hype.........

everytime there is a break thru in dj technology (cds turntables, ableton, serato etc, etc) some ignorant eijit comes out with the stupid statement that real dj don't use (insert any of the examples i've given above) At the end of the day real dj's use one thing, thats music, it doesn't matter what equipment u use to deliever the music. All that matters is the music thats being played! that just my 2 cents on the matter.

LOL Yall are pissed because, we Canadians have more style and class, and better dj's plain and simple. That why we get your chick, money, and most of all GIGS. I know a lot of dj's from Canada fly down often to play at the bigger jams and partys....Simply cause your DJ's can't hack it(thats out of the promoters mouth, that live in florida). Same thing happend to me a while back. A promoter from NYC heard what I could do on the deck and he wanted to fly me down, Why ?? Same reason, couldn't find a DJ that could deliver it the way we can. So I suggets you stop bitching and get back to your room and keep practicing. Then maby someday you'll measure up to one of our average DJ's.


I get a lot of Bigger named dj's come thru my radio show when they come to Canada. ( Such as Black Kat, Bass Odessy, and next week i'm getting Mighty Crowm from Japan). They all have walked away with nuttin' but love.

sounds like i'm some competition... i have PR companies (plural... more than one (i know you canadians have some weird terms and words)) who want me to move to L.A. or New York permanently... not just "fly me down" the thing is that i dont feel like moving, so until i do, they will continue to fly me when they need me. i think that ya'll really come out here because we pay more for less talent.

ohhhh... and our weather is better too, i'd say hotter chics, but i've seen some canadian that are mmm mmmmmm good. so i guess i have to say more hott chics.

Hi All - I'm a newbie around here... I was just reading through the forums seeing what's happening and came across this and thought I should contribute my 2 cents.

Wow. There are some emotional people here. Personally, I use it all 1200's, 1000's and serato. While I'm glad to see you all have passion for what you use, wow. I think if these guys think lowly of serato, that's their right to. Personally, I like it and think it adds to my nights. But, if others aren't I'll let them get all riled up about it... no big deal.

From the sounds of it too, these Angry guys are messin' with us. They are probably laughing their asses off at how worked up everyone is getting. These kind of people eat that up. Check out their site now, it's talking about some Fisher Price record player... haha... I think I had one of those when I was a kid. That would be great to show up at a club with one of those!

In the meantime too, look at all the attention their site has gotten, more hits, more plays. Like Eminem said once: Any publicity is good publicity. And we're all giving these guys exactly what they want.

So, wrapping things up, it's too bad Serato got dissed in the process, but good on these guys for playing right into our hands. If they read this (which from the sounds of it they do), I actually really dig your Flock track. I heard it on XM back in January then got it on Promo Only shortly after...

Peace out.
DJDB

Once again, before it gets out of hand... the whole Canada joke was just that. If you took it personal... well, too bad. :P

i'm all for joking.. but i dont like the whole i'm better than you thing...

Well... I AM BETTER THAN YOU. :P hahahahaha

American djs > Canada djs

Naw, were just better.

Totally Agree Bro!!!!

Then again it sounds like someone is FULL OF HIMSELF..... I don't care where your from cuz where your from doesn't make u better than another person......So step off your HIGH HORSE or whatever it is you folks up there ride on (besides D*ck) and come back down to the real world.

"Houston, We Have A Problem, someone is full of himself and too proud..."

wow...the most bitter dj's are the ones that aren't working.

Why even call any attention to garbage like this?

And MySpace sucks period, I won't even open pages on there any more because they're all obnoxious and slow-loading....not to mention that site is owned by one of the most evil of the corporate Media Overlords.

You know, you really have to wonder if people actually look at their page after slamming it full of crap using those MySpace page generators...

i gonna pipe in on this one for a second....further to what DigiFan wrote:

i happened to meet up with the guys this thread was started about in Vegas (The Angry Kids) last year. i caught their set at Empire Ballroom, and i also saw the dude up at the ESPN Zone the next day. Not only did they play an awesome set the night before- these guys are f**cking hilarious too.

Odds are that the guy who started this thread (mixx it) is a hater...petty jealousy stuff if you ask me. If they don't like Serato...that's their perogative. Simple. Throwing insults, and lies around only makes us forum users look stupid.

Hopefully YOU are not talking about those in here who are complaining about these fags on myspace talking about REAL DJ's would never use SSL....

I believe most of the DJ's on this forum have tons of residencies and for those who don't they are probably on the production side of DJ'ing looking forward to blowing Danger Mouse, etc out of the water....

Peace and Love

Paco you still working at taco bell man

lol what a joke!

only reason i use serato live is because i mix oldskool
and most of the best records are either rare or to expensive
i cant aford to be spending £80 - £500 on a single record !!
thats just crazy

...or they are working but won't use Serato even though they have severe back pain from carrying all those crates of vinyl because they don't want to be seen as fake DJs :)

LIKE JUDGE JUDY SAYS
"Myspace is a place for people with aa lot of time on their hands...and not being mindful of things in generall"
BUT.....MYSPACE CAN ALSO BE A GREAT PLACE TO ENJOY WITH ALL WHEN APPROPRIATELY USE IT FOR A MORE COLLABORATED EFFORT-SHARING IDEAS THOUGHTS AND SO ON....
SERATO IS A WONDERFUL DJ TOOL-NOT EVERYONE WILL GET IT-

...i think you just illustrated my point further.

Next.

ummm...yeah...of course, when i said "bitter djs are the ones that aren't working" i did mean those "fags" who were hating on serato.

Almost every dj that i've met that hate on serato are usually the ones that aren't working...that's why i said that j_static.

Maybe they hate on serato cause they ain't working...therefore, cannot afford it. Someone should send them a link and let these guys know they're getting dissed!

Serato is a great tool for DJ's and a first step into the future of DJ'ing. For some of us, the music we play hasn't come on vinyl in years, and now we get special remixes straight from the studios in MP3, or WMA format which will never make it to CD anyway, much less vinyl!
I love this tool, and its taking over the world! I just can't wait to see whats next.
Keep in mind that the media music is recorded on is getting smaller and smaller, which means the interfaces we play it back on are going to change also. As long as I can still use my 12's to manipulate the music I'm happier than a fly on a pile of $#@t!!!!!!!

I don't know about anyone else, but I enjoy the extra time playing with my mix; because I'm not looking for the next record, not sure of where it is. And if I have more time for the mix, I think that makes Serato better.

I agree! With the music I'm playing speed can make a nice mix, and the ability to pull up loops when I'm on air on radio or internet radio, helps when the MC takes live calls or has some promo's to make.

Serato, much like any good technology, can be abused and used in a matter not intended by its creators.

It can also be used to create masterpiece's in a matter not intended by its creators.

to me, serato is simply another way to the same destination. however, its not a replacement, its another tool to be assimilated into what is already there.

my advice to anyone would be to learn as much as possible about anything and everything, digital to analogue. take it all in because it will only make you better. i just acquired ableton and all im doing is raeding tutorials for it. will i dj with it? i will when i know how. why not include that along everything else?

i didnt always think of it like, that but im coming around. cheers to all of it.

Right on playa, just needed a little further clarification

...so who's gonna let these guys know? haha

blame canada

just cause they are where all of our problems come from doesnt mean we have to bring it up all the time. i'm starting to feel sorry for those people from canada.

i do think that we'd be happier with them if for every DJ that came down they brought at least 2 hott chics with them...

right....how about everybody put an end to this topic...comon man...its gettin old...IF REAL DJS WONT USE SERATO...then wat about kanye west's dj who uses serato,dj sasha who uses serato and all the big timers in this business using serato...why dnt u use ur brains for a sec...if u cnt digest the fact tht people r using serato how about u sell ur stuff n jus stick with ur cd players or tts....n jus go away from forum...

give it a break mate.

well wateva i have written on the top is for tht canadian newbs...

or nother possibility is tht...tht canadian newbs got replaced by another dj who uses serato from then he is anti - serato person or something...

hey Dj Maxim s

....btw...kanye wests dj...Dj Atrak. He held almost every major dj title in the world AND he's canadian. please....show a little respect homie. Google him if you need some verification.

...but..."blame canada" is still funny.

A-Trak is canadian, MTV did a special on him..... Dude is tight.....

I don't care where u from, if you can rock, then hey: U CAN ROCK!!!

come on guys, we all know the only difference between the US, and Canada is that Serato costs more up here... plain and simple.



now that still didnt' deter me from buying it..:D:D:D

Chicks look better in the US, haven't met a good looking canadian chick YET.....

And please dont give me the name of some famous chick or female artist who's a canuck....

I mean a REGULAR chick

lol @ canuck...

Then you in the wrong Club B. Tell me where/what club did you come and check ??

nah, Europeans...

(some random -classy- belgian girls for your viewing pleasure)

picserver.ft-mp3stream.net

www.nirwanakru.be

picserver.ft-mp3stream.net

picserver.ft-mp3stream.net

www.ghostdogs.be

picserver.ft-mp3stream.net

Yes great track..could't stop bussin my gut when I saw the Movie.

Dinolito Some hot chicks hommie. Hot Women come from all over the world. You can't tell me that a paticular country has no hot chiks at all. That make no kind a sence.

btw hear are some girls from around the way. Lemme know what you think.

www.myspace.com
www.myspace.com
www.myspace.com

I must assume that's a reference to Shania Twain.

Are you saying Celine Dion isnt normal, or isnt hot?

ewwww...celine is gross!

yup

Technology Yes... But respect the REAL DJ.
Real DJ's Use Turntables... Period!

you felt the need to revive a 5 year old thread to say this?

Myspace 2007 = seeerious biznizz...

Sounds like "The Angry Kids" (from the OP) chose a new musical direction... myspace.com

is this thread a wormhole/?

A portal to another dimension, I think.

MeHateFakeDJ is just a common troll, he even made up a fake new name to troll with.

Move along....Nothing to see here

Evolve or DIE

Its just that simple!!! I've been Mixing and Scratching for over 30 years now. Only a stupid MOFO would take his 1200's and 8 crates of Records to a Gig like a wedding ... or somewhere where Performance was not required.

Work Smarter not Harder

Only a stupid MOFO would reply to a thread from 2007 like it was created yesterday.

nm

Damn. Lmao, i nearly spit out my cheerios!

stupidity never dies
its just goes to sleep then resurrects every few years in the form of an opinion

So I travel around North America and the Caribbean to DJ. I guess I should hit you up to help me ship 8 crates of records on the plane everytime ? Oh ya and and i should get my own record press for all the new music I get direct from producers and studios who haven't pressed records in over 10 years ? What is a fake Dj such as myself to do whos been in the business for 30 years + to do??

Makes me laugh. Almost all the music is produced digitally. So we should take that digitally image and put it on an analog medium? That's like taking your digital camera photo and putting it on film??? That's just ass backwards! We have to move with the times.

"who haven't pressed records in over 10 years ?"

Technically this thread is 7 years old, so the correct "time warp" calculation is 3yrs.

Smh



And you were just proven right again.

This...

Best argument yet. Everything starts off digital now-a-days.

Threads (arguments) like this can never be laid to rest. Peeps will be squabbling over analog vs. digital + turntable vs. controller, etc.. for the rest of our lives.

Whattup... I'm a trill-ass DJ but I keeps it 💯. No Sorado fo' me.

What's Trill again?

Trill
An adjective used in hip-hop culture to describe someone who is considered to be well respected, coming from a combination of the words "true" and "real".
Trill ass niggaz keep it true and real.

I know...I know....

wait.....howd you do that

^^from his phone...

7 year old thread is still going

because of idiots like you who bumped it.

nm

^but didnt you just.....nevermind lol

originally bumped it... and with enthusiasm even. lol

nm