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you think using your mac for other programs OTHER than serato is wise?

Play So-Urban 3:59 AM - 22 February, 2007
or do you use your macs for serato ONLY?

i only use mine for serato, but with so many wireless net zones around here.. i started usin the net a bit on mine
Konix 5:28 AM - 22 February, 2007
I use my Macbook for SSL and school stuff (internet, email, Word, Excel, Powerpoint). Have a few games on it as well. Haven't had a single problem.
ejayian 5:39 AM - 22 February, 2007
dedicated is a windows thing
I use my mac for everything, surf the web, email, music, video, even PORN cant slow my trusty powerbook.
DJ-A 5:45 AM - 22 February, 2007
so with the new intel chip and being able to run windows, it that going to open macs to viruses? any ideas?
Konix 5:56 AM - 22 February, 2007
Not unless you are actually running Windows. Mac OSX uses a completely different architecture OS-wise than XP.
DJ-A 5:58 AM - 22 February, 2007
i thought that was part of the idea with the "new intel chip" you can run windows too... that way there wasnt anything a pc could do that a mac cant
sixxx 6:22 AM - 22 February, 2007
I use my trusty iBook for anything including graphic design, music, internet and everything it was designed to do. Of course, Serato as well.

ZERO PROBLEMS.
Play So-Urban 6:24 AM - 22 February, 2007
i fucking love my mac
Releaux 7:31 AM - 22 February, 2007
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i thought that was part of the idea with the "new intel chip" you can run windows too... that way there wasnt anything a pc could do that a mac cant


It depends on how you're running Windows. I have mine set up as a dual-boot system because I wanted to take full advantage of the video acceleration (I can play WoW at decent frame rates on my Core2Duo MacBook Pro).

So when I'm in Windows, it is a Windows machine with all of the stuff that goes along with it.

If you're running emulation software like Parallels, I suppose that it's possible to be infected with a Windows virus while running Mac OS as your base system, but I'm not sure how that would affect the Mac OS side of things.

As to the OP's question... I run all sorts of other stuff at the same time as SSL at home and have never had a crash or had SSL slow down. However, on my laptop, I have a separate user set up for running SSL that has everything that isn't essential turned off.

Yeah, it probably could do other stuff, but if I'm using it in a mission critical form (at the club or the reception), then why risk something happening? In a pinch, it's nice to know that you can open up a chat window or download a track, but I keep that stuff closed when I don't want to take a chance.
ejayian 7:50 AM - 22 February, 2007
i try not to run other stuff during a gig but ever since i have gotten clearwire ive been tempted to use itunes to try and download a song during a gig.
djSpinz 5:59 PM - 22 February, 2007
I set up my powerbook with a different user completely devoted to Serato. So on my regular user has all my graphics programs, audio stuff, regular music.

Then my serato user has every version of serato since 1.3 and all my "dj" music and pretty much nothing else. Bluetooth and all power saving stuff turned off.

My powerbook 12" has been an amazing machine to run Serato with BTW ;)
J_Static 7:32 PM - 22 February, 2007
I use my Mac strictly for SSL and the net, but only use the net when I am at home and under my locked wireless network......

Don't trust unlocked free wireless networks, as good as some of the hackers are that are out there, I'd die if someone hacked into my Mac...........
dj disturbed 7:36 PM - 22 February, 2007
I use my laptop for almosteverything that i use on my g5 tower with no issues
J_Static 7:37 PM - 22 February, 2007
Ewwww G5 tower, Orgasm Machine......

I'm upgrading to a G5 tower soon, still G4'ing it at home with NO ISSUES either
That Guy 1 2:29 AM - 23 February, 2007
I like Macs...

TO POOP ON!!


Hey, Mike, where's the Febreeze when I need it, huh?!
sixxx 2:41 AM - 23 February, 2007
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I like Macs...

TO POOP ON!!


Hey, Mike, where's the Febreeze when I need it, huh?!


I think it's... FOR ME TO POOP ON! get it right! lol
That Guy 1 2:51 AM - 23 February, 2007
Hey, I do the sock-puppet jokes 'round here.
Releaux 4:42 PM - 23 February, 2007
Clark must be using Windows and running SSL with other stuff... the multitasking chopped off the first part of his retort.

;-)

I kid! I kid because I love!
dj delic 5:01 PM - 23 February, 2007
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so with the new intel chip and being able to run windows, it that going to open macs to viruses? any ideas?


I asked the techs at the apple store and found out that the new intel macs can get viruses just like the other pcs. However they said that and this totally makes sense, you could only get one by being connected to the internet or a network while being in "windows mode". I would only use windows mode for some music and maybe game programs, then boot up as a mac to access the internet.
dj disturbed 5:09 PM - 23 February, 2007
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so with the new intel chip and being able to run windows, it that going to open macs to viruses? any ideas?


I asked the techs at the apple store and found out that the new intel macs can get viruses just like the other pcs. However they said that and this totally makes sense, you could only get one by being connected to the internet or a network while being in "windows mode". I would only use windows mode for some music and maybe game programs, then boot up as a mac to access the internet.

ANY computer can get viruses..... not just b\c it has an intel chip in it.... its all up to the peeps who make viruses ifthey want to make one that effects the Mac osx.. it can be done to ANY computer. But all in all the mac are the safest to use in the aspect AS OF NOW!
DJ-A 5:15 PM - 23 February, 2007
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so with the new intel chip and being able to run windows, it that going to open macs to viruses? any ideas?


I asked the techs at the apple store and found out that the new intel macs can get viruses just like the other pcs. However they said that and this totally makes sense, you could only get one by being connected to the internet or a network while being in "windows mode". I would only use windows mode for some music and maybe game programs, then boot up as a mac to access the internet.

ANY computer can get viruses..... not just b\c it has an intel chip in it.... its all up to the peeps who make viruses ifthey want to make one that effects the Mac osx.. it can be done to ANY computer. But all in all the mac are the safest to use in the aspect AS OF NOW!


I wish more people understood that... i'm tired of chics who buy macs because they are "cute" and "can't" get viruses
That Guy 1 6:56 PM - 23 February, 2007
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ANY computer can get viruses..... not just b\c it has an intel chip in it.... its all up to the peeps who make viruses ifthey want to make one that effects the Mac osx.. it can be done to ANY computer. But all in all the mac are the safest to use in the aspect AS OF NOW!


OOOOH! IN YO' FACE!!!

... like a can of MACE, BABY!!


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I wish more people understood that... i'm tired of chics who buy macs because they are "cute" and "can't" get viruses


I hate 'em too... got any o'er their phone numbers?

I just want to prank call them, serious.
dj disturbed 7:03 PM - 23 February, 2007
Dont get me wrong..Ill take my mac anyday over a PC.... I have had nothing but crashes out of the PC's i have used for djing (or in genral for that matter). I just hate that people tell someone false info to get when giving them advice on a big choice. Personly i will tell you to go withmacs... there is a reason why alot of the big Recording and movie studios use macs for audio/video stuff. but if you are more usedto PC's then go with them.. but you make sure you have a copy or get a computer that has XP with it so you will be SOL till SSL is vista supported!
J_Static 7:03 AM - 24 February, 2007
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there is a reason why alot of the big Recording and movie studios use macs for audio/video stuff.


OOOOOOOH! IN YO' FACE!!!!!

WHAT DID THE FIVE FINGERS SAY TO THE FACE............SLAAAAAAAAP!!!!!

BYAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!

* Sorry Clark, couldn't help myself.......

DISTURBED FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE REASON THEY USE MACS FOR AUDIO/VIDEO STUFF IS BECAUSE MACS AND MAC SOFTWARE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE THE BEST FOR THAT TYPE OF SH*T.......

I won't lie and tell you I haven't seen some killer PC programs for that area, but I've always gone to Macs

And I used to be a PC user.....
CMOS 10:02 PM - 24 February, 2007
People who only run serato on their pc's are people who dont know how to use a pc. Im sure these same ppl could fuck up a mac as well as they fuck up a pc.
ejayian 10:10 PM - 24 February, 2007
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People who only run serato on their pc's are people who dont know how to use a pc. Im sure these same ppl could fuck up a mac as well as they fuck up a pc.

No they couldnt, im no genius but i know my way around a pc & most people who fuck up there pc's do so because of internet surfing, nobody told them to run any spy ware or anti-virus progams so there system gets all bogged down, im a firm beleiver that the mac is "IDIOT PROOF" & if that makes me an idiot so be it
That Guy 1 10:34 PM - 24 February, 2007
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DISTURBED FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE REASON THEY USE MACS FOR AUDIO/VIDEO STUFF IS BECAUSE MACS AND MAC SOFTWARE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE THE BEST FOR THAT TYPE OF SH*T.......


Just because so many "pro users" use Mac's, it doesn't mean the software is the best. Pro Tools is not the best program out there. And, yes, it's more powerful on a PC.

People use Pro Tools because of compatibility. There are more plug-in options on PC.

People use Pro Tools and, or Mac's because of preference and familiarity. In essence, they are "legacy" systems.

Nuendo is actually a more powerful program. When Nuendo started they had about two engineers for the Mac system, and 12 for the PC, from what I remember.
J_Static 5:56 AM - 27 February, 2007
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DISTURBED FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE REASON THEY USE MACS FOR AUDIO/VIDEO STUFF IS BECAUSE MACS AND MAC SOFTWARE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE THE BEST FOR THAT TYPE OF SH*T.......


Just because so many "pro users" use Mac's, it doesn't mean the software is the best. Pro Tools is not the best program out there. And, yes, it's more powerful on a PC.

People use Pro Tools because of compatibility. There are more plug-in options on PC.

People use Pro Tools and, or Mac's because of preference and familiarity. In essence, they are "legacy" systems.

Nuendo is actually a more powerful program. When Nuendo started they had about two engineers for the Mac system, and 12 for the PC, from what I remember.


I didn't mention "pro users" or PRO-TOOLS in that statement, but since you brought up the word "PRO"

Most Professionals use and choose MACS

BYYYAAAAAAAGGGGHHH
puzl 2:46 PM - 27 February, 2007
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People who only run serato on their pc's are people who dont know how to use a pc. Im sure these same ppl could fuck up a mac as well as they fuck up a pc.


fully agree. I'm running serato as well as other audio apps, internet, etc. on a 6 year old Pentium 3 (with 512 mb ram...haha... ulgh), but, it never crashes, and I've never had a virus. my friend with a mac book pro (a much much better machine than mine) has honestly had more computer problems in general in 6 months than I have had in 6 years. not trying to get into a mac v pc debate, cause I love em both. just saying, #1 importance with computers (whatever type they may be): the more computer savy you are, the less likely you are to have problems. take care of your robots
The E Head 11:19 AM - 7 March, 2007
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No they couldnt, im no genius but i know my way around a pc & most people who fuck up there pc's do so because of internet surfing, nobody told them to run any spy ware or anti-virus progams so there system gets all bogged down, im a firm beleiver that the mac is "IDIOT PROOF" & if that makes me an idiot so be it


Ok now this might be a daft question but does you ISP not protect you?

I am in the UK my ISP is blueyonder, i get the blueyonder pc guard for free. This is a anti virus, firewall, priovacy manager and also deletes all spy ware. This is updated regular and does so it self!

SO TELL ME HOW MUCH MORE IDIOT PROOF DO YOU NEED IT??
sweetL 2:20 PM - 7 March, 2007
i wouldnt use your mac for anything but serato. apple clearly design the mac to just use serato, dont do anything else with it.

ok, ill stop being sarcastic.

its a pc. the fact its an apple pc is irrelevant. use it, dont use it, its still gonna go wrong one day...

mac vs pc arguments are stupid, totally pointless and endless arguments. pcs do more than macs. macs do what they do in a prettier way. argument over.
Releaux 5:12 PM - 7 March, 2007
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mac vs pc arguments are stupid, totally pointless and endless arguments. pcs do more than macs. macs do what they do in a prettier way. argument over.


I'll be picky and qualify your statement a little bit. Macintoshes actually now run more software than any PC because they're the only computers that can run Mac OS X in addition to any OS that runs on an Intel chip including Windows, Linux, BSD, etc. If you need to be able to run pretty much any piece of software on the market, the only computer that can do it is a Macintosh.

Macintoshes are hardware (and very nice hardware at that). If you want to compare the available software options for the OS X and Windows operating systems, then yes, Windows has a larger quantity of applications available, though there are very few mainstream application types, that aren't available for both platforms. Windows just has a lot more crappy alternatives available. The question normally boils down to: how many word processors do you actually need?

Where Windows pulls away from OS X is in gaming and certain specialty/niche markets, especially industrial markets like oil & gas, architecture, etc. (Conversely, OS X is pretty strong in certain scientific niche markets like biotech and physics). Microsoft has also done an excellent job of leveraging their marketshare by getting companies to standardize on certain Microsoft applications like Outlook that they don't make available for any other platform.

You are correct, however, in stating that at some point in the future, something will likely go wrong no matter what OS you're using. In my experience, that point in the future happens sooner on Windows boxes (for a variety of reasons), but neither OS is bullet proof if you ignore it.
dj Gds 5:44 PM - 7 March, 2007
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Not unless you are actually running Windows. Mac OSX uses a completely different architecture OS-wise than XP.


the system of Win XP (throught parallels or bootcamp), is fat32 or NTFS so, YES u can be affected by a virus when u are on xp, BUT just the xp partition would be infected...

but when u have a mac, it's crazy to go on internet with the xp partition and not the mac os system...

@ sweetL: u are right Pc is the definition of Portable computer... but it's like that, now people know Pc like an assembled machine which have an os like windows, or unix or linux... the macs are defined now like mac and no more like PC...
for the comparaison: mac can run NOW, mac os and also all the others os (linux: mandrake redhat and so on)
Pc cannot run a mac os (some peole do with machines called Hackintosh) but it's totally unstable!!!!!

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