Serato Software Feature Suggestions

What features would you like to see in Serato software?

Please Change The Timecodenoice To A Lower Frequence

popfilter 6:14 PM - 15 February, 2007
HI THERE, I Love SL But Theres Only One Thing That Really Gets On My Nerv. The High Freg Noise On The Timecode Record! What Abbout Simply Press A Lower Noise On The Record? If You Run It In A Studio Booth Or At Home Without The Headphones On Or Just Stand Nearby The DJ, Somewhere The Output Volume Is Never That Loud You Allways Hear That Noise Wich Put Me In Felling Of Beeing At E R, My Buddy Just Died.... FLATLINE.
I Dont Know What A Technical Challenge It Would Be, I Would Be Thankful. I Hope I Am Not The Only User Whow Would Like To Have That Changed, greets the popster
nik39 10:16 PM - 15 February, 2007
Ryte. Genau. Exactement.
Johnny 1 Move 9:03 PM - 16 February, 2007
A lower carrier frequency for the timecode would mean poorer response as you wouldn't get as much information per inch in the timecode. Also bass causes the needle wobble that normally causes feedback, but in serato affects the tracking, so you would want to keep the timecode carrier freqency as high as possible to allow it to be filtered more easily before decoding.
gars 11:44 PM - 16 February, 2007
i think he means the noice that is produced when the needle travels on the groove. just like how you can just barely hear a record if you put you ear close to the needle. I agree it would be nice if you couldnt hear that beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. when using SL at home, but then you wouldnt be getting as loud of a signal to your computer and have a better chance of SL not knowing what point on the record the needle is at
nik39 6:01 PM - 17 February, 2007
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I agree it would be nice if you couldnt hear that beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Yeah, but you peeps are aware of no matter how great Rane/Serato is... they cant get around physical laws. Needle moves inside the groove, makes noise aka music and you hear it. Thats how it is.
Konix 6:18 PM - 17 February, 2007
And if you can honestly hear the timecode coming from the needle, then you need to turn the music up louder then :)
digital_steve 11:32 PM - 18 February, 2007
Anyone know what frequency the timecode is actually at?
KMXE 11:47 PM - 18 February, 2007
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And if you can honestly hear the timecode coming from the needle, then you need to turn the music up louder then :)


so true - however, sometimes even with the music volume at a decent level - if you focus hard enough you can hear this sound sort of masked in the background..... its real annoying when you notice it!
nik39 11:57 PM - 18 February, 2007
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Anyone know what frequency the timecode is actually at?

1kHz for SSL, 1.2kHz for FS. Dont know about the other DVS'es.
digital_steve 12:04 AM - 19 February, 2007
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Anyone know what frequency the timecode is actually at?

1kHz for SSL, 1.2kHz for FS. Dont know about the other DVS'es.

Cheers mate... always wondered what the SSL timecode was at.
dj delic 1:57 AM - 19 February, 2007
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And if you can honestly hear the timecode coming from the needle, then you need to turn the music up louder then :)


so true - however, sometimes even with the music volume at a decent level - if you focus hard enough you can hear this sound sort of masked in the background..... its real annoying when you notice it!


Maybe try to focus so hard on listening to the to tone.



No,
Jk. :}
dj delic 1:57 AM - 19 February, 2007
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And if you can honestly hear the timecode coming from the needle, then you need to turn the music up louder then :)


so true - however, sometimes even with the music volume at a decent level - if you focus hard enough you can hear this sound sort of masked in the background..... its real annoying when you notice it!


Maybe try not to focus so hard on listening to the to tone.



No,
Jk. :}
LOUISMARCOS 10:52 AM - 19 February, 2007
If you were to press a higher freq. like 20,000hz. plus timecode that is above our hearing freq. if in fact possible, then we will " in theory be able to obtain better response and hear no noise from the needles". but I'm not sure if the hardware thresholds engineered into the Rane Equipment could handle that higher frequency...i would like to think they could.
Johnny 1 Move 12:44 PM - 19 February, 2007
Doesn't record wear affect higher frequencies more as well?
LOUISMARCOS 11:07 PM - 19 February, 2007
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Doesn't record wear affect higher frequencies more as well?



i think so
but the records are cheep
digital_steve 11:25 PM - 19 February, 2007
I doubt a stylus would be able to powerfully reproduce a signal 20kHz or above.
popfilter 12:07 PM - 24 February, 2007
first thank you for your knowledge. the reason i came up with that idea was of a mistake of mine by conectin my tt stanton str8 150 to the sl device. the tt have an analog and a digital output. on the first time running the sl the output came from the digital, but i didnt reconize cuz the functionality was given. everything worked fine exept the pitching. the turntable has a pitching range plus minus 50%. when i turned it up&down to 50 the track played in its original speed.(aware that the pitchcontroll can be also switched on&off...it was on!) now the big but is that the timecodesignal wasnt hearable anymore becuse of its lower noise while pitch was at minus 50. so the idea to lower the noise on the records witch i think (and probably proofed by my digi analog plug mistake!) should have no effect on how the soft and hardware of sl handle the freq no matter if high or low. i also wrote to shawn at rane. no answer yet. may good things take their time,greets the popster
bubblersound 8:28 PM - 24 February, 2007
What would happen if you used a FS CD (1.2khz tone) in SSL? Just curious...
dj disturbed 8:36 PM - 24 February, 2007
it would not controll it
gars 8:42 PM - 24 February, 2007
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If you were to press a higher freq. like 20,000hz. plus timecode that is above our hearing freq. if in fact possible, then we will " in theory be able to obtain better response and hear no noise from the needles". but I'm not sure if the hardware thresholds engineered into the Rane Equipment could handle that higher frequency...i would like to think they could.


plus it would make your dogs freak out
airforce1 12:56 PM - 25 February, 2007
play the control record on a victrola...
nik39 2:16 PM - 25 February, 2007
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What would happen if you used a FS CD (1.2khz tone) in SSL? Just curious...

It would be the exact opposite of what the original poster asked for. BTW, the records work fine in relative mode.
SUBSTANCE 2:07 AM - 26 February, 2007
I work in television so I already hear 1khz tone all the time (I swear I'm probably carving a 1khz notch out of my hearing!) You don't notice it so much when 'real' vinyl is on beacause the noise from the groove is essentially the same as the noise from the speakers.
Deft 5:14 PM - 26 February, 2007
If it's any consolation - I found Serato records to be the least annoying out of all the vinyl emu solutions I have tried.
airforce1 12:19 PM - 27 February, 2007
call up a fax line and just stay on the phone, listening intently, say for an hour or so...
The control record's not that bad now, huh? is it? huh?
bubblersound 4:24 AM - 6 March, 2007
I was bored so I made a few tracks with different frequency tones and burned it to a disc to see how it would operate SSL. In Rel Mode, lower frequencies made the made the pitch slower and higher frequencies made it faster. In Abs Mode, they controlled the deck but there was no output sound even with the 1000hz tone.
nik39 10:20 AM - 6 March, 2007
What a surprise bubbler. :)
dj delic 3:25 PM - 6 March, 2007
lol