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ssl and pioneer 909 or new numark ppd01 digital mixer.

fabry 8:42 PM - 23 February, 2005
will ssl work with any of these 2?
thanks
DJ 3pm 8:57 PM - 23 February, 2005
dj jazzy jeff uses ssl with his pioneer 909

i use ssl with my numark ppd01

(sweet, my name is mentioned in a jazzy jeff post now!)
fabry 9:16 PM - 23 February, 2005
thanks for answer..
how does your numark ppd01 goes? does it work well? what about effects, good stuff?
the numark ppd01, the one that now appears in numark website, when did they start to produce it? it's recent stuff?
thanks
skinnyguy 9:17 PM - 23 February, 2005
ssl will work with any mixer with rca inputs..
DJ 3pm 10:07 PM - 23 February, 2005
my numark works ok, but i have had to replace the crossfader several times already (3 in ~10 months). i don't use most of the effects on it because of the music i spin (hip-hop. most the effects are transition effects that only occur based on the velocity of the crossfader, but i wish it had the effects of the numark dxm06 (like delay). what i like the most is the optical audio out, it provides a real clean signal for playback/recording.


(mods can probably move this thread to general now)
tsalyards 11:57 PM - 23 February, 2005
Is there any particular reason you want a digital mixer? Might I suggest a sweet little analog mixer by say, Rane perhaps? :)

Not to be a total board whore, but a Rane mixer or other high quality analog mixer beats a digital board in my book.
DJ 3pm 5:19 AM - 24 February, 2005
Rane TTM56 (rane flagship model):
94 dB +4 dBu, 20 kHz BW, 12 dB gain

Numark PPD01 (my humble mixer):
World’s only 24-bit digital two channel mixer with an unprecedented SNR of 100dB, 0.005% THD+N (DSP processing is 28-bit, AD/DA are 24-bit)

now granted, shit in = shit out, its hard to beat how clean the signal is on that numark (for a sub $300US mixer with effects).
nobspangle 9:00 AM - 24 February, 2005
I think you need to take the s/n ratio with a pinch of salt, when the SBLive soundcard came out Creative claimed it had a S/N ratio of 120dB

digital mixer=no headroom=no overcooking inputs for nice warm sound
fabry 9:40 AM - 24 February, 2005
there is not a particular reason for me to choose one of them.
im now defining a price for a used 909 and ppd01 or dxm 06 (or dxm 09) will be a choice for prices.
rane here in italy costs about... let me think, in dollars, 1100-1300 new. too much!
thanks guys
Shaun W 5:09 PM - 24 February, 2005
Taken from Rane Note 145: www.rane.com
Quote:
In order for the published figure to have any meaning, it must include the measurement bandwidth, including any weighting filters and the reference signal level. Stating that a unit has a "S/N = 90 dB" is meaningless without knowing what the signal level is, and over what bandwidth the noise was measured. For example if one product references S/N to their maximum output level of, say, +20 dBu, and another product has the same stated 90 dB S/N, but their reference level is + 4 dBu, then the second product is, in fact, 16 dB quieter. Likewise, you cannot accurately compare numbers if one unit is measured over a BW of 80 kHz and another uses 20 kHz, or if one is measured flat and the other uses A-weighting. By far however, the most common problem is not stating any conditions.

Correct: S/N = 90 dB re +4 dBu, 22 kHz BW, unity gain

Wrong: S/N = 90 dB


Written by Dennis Bohn
Revolutionary 8:40 PM - 24 February, 2005
Gotta love Rane school with Shaun...
skutch 5:00 AM - 25 February, 2005
flexing much nerdery;)
skinnyguy 8:38 AM - 25 February, 2005
i wanna be nerdery too...