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External drives for video mixing
djpuma_gemini
12:22 AM - 21 July, 2010
I currently have a 500gb OWC 2.5" external via fw800 and I just copped a 640gb 2.5" 5400 rpm hdd for $72. I'm wondering if 5400 is good enough for vsl/me usage. I've always used 7200 rpm drives, but my 500gb is getting full and I don't want to get a 3.5" external because I prefer bus powered drives.
Any suggestions, also was that a good deal?
Thanks
DJ/VJ Puma
Any suggestions, also was that a good deal?
Thanks
DJ/VJ Puma
DJ-Phat-AL
12:37 AM - 21 July, 2010
I am currently using the western digital 1tb 2.5" drive in an OWC enclosure with firewire 800. The drive is 5200rpm. But it works great! No problems! ... and it is bus powered.
djpuma_gemini
1:03 AM - 21 July, 2010
Yeah I wanted to get the 1tb drive but wasn't sure about the price and 5200 rpm, but I heard it has another platter which in theory would make it faster at seeking since it has one more platter to store data on.
VJ Justin Allen
1:30 AM - 21 July, 2010
I use the g-tech 1TB drive. 7200 rpm, 32GB cache, firewire connectivity. It does need an external power source however. But it's not like one extra plug-in would be that big of a deal.
Dj Nyce
5:50 PM - 21 July, 2010
ftw. except for the owc enclosure (:
i'm riding with oyen digital minipro oyendigital.com
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I am currently using the western digital 1tb 2.5" drive in an OWC enclosure with firewire 800. The drive is 5200rpm. But it works great! No problems! ... and it is bus powered.ftw. except for the owc enclosure (:
i'm riding with oyen digital minipro oyendigital.com
DJ Tecoy
11:35 PM - 19 September, 2010
Really? I thought that firewire didn't need to use the external power supply. Was bus powered. I know my WD is & has been for several years now. Just need more space now.
I'm looking at getting the Lacie or the G-Tech 1tb.
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I use the g-tech 1TB drive. 7200 rpm, 32GB cache, firewire connectivity. It does need an external power source however. But it's not like one extra plug-in would be that big of a deal.Really? I thought that firewire didn't need to use the external power supply. Was bus powered. I know my WD is & has been for several years now. Just need more space now.
I'm looking at getting the Lacie or the G-Tech 1tb.
djpuma_gemini
11:43 PM - 19 September, 2010
I think he's talking about a 3.5" drive, which I and many others are trying to avoid.
DJ Tecoy
12:08 AM - 20 September, 2010
I've been looking at either this
www.g-technology.com
or
www.lacie.com
I've searched the forums and found these & a few WD to be in high usage other than buying HD & case separate.
Leaning towards the G-Tech because of the 7200rpm as well as more bad responses to the Lacie than G-Tech.
Anymore info would be helpful. Seemingly most of the forums about the Externals seem to peak & then die out around this summer.
www.g-technology.com
or
www.lacie.com
I've searched the forums and found these & a few WD to be in high usage other than buying HD & case separate.
Leaning towards the G-Tech because of the 7200rpm as well as more bad responses to the Lacie than G-Tech.
Anymore info would be helpful. Seemingly most of the forums about the Externals seem to peak & then die out around this summer.
djpuma_gemini
12:16 AM - 20 September, 2010
7200 only goes up to 500, well 750 comes in 7200rpm, but it should be out real soon.'
There are no 1tb drives that are 7200rpm (in 2.5" form factor)
There are no 1tb drives that are 7200rpm (in 2.5" form factor)
DJ Tecoy
12:30 AM - 20 September, 2010
The search continues. Thank you. Only 30Gb left out of 500Gb. Not much time left.
AddPop
12:34 AM - 20 September, 2010
Dude, I rocking a 2tv G-tech with RAID.
however, I am experiencing occasional video freeze. I'm connected firewire 800, so it must be the drive I guess.
however, I am experiencing occasional video freeze. I'm connected firewire 800, so it must be the drive I guess.
djpuma_gemini
12:55 AM - 20 September, 2010
Just do what I'm doing now. Delete shit you've never played (I know it's hard, trust me, but if you haven't played it in a year, you probably never will, or move stuff that would work for diff venues than you currently play at and drop them on a separate exteranal)
I just freed up a lot of gigs, maybe 40 or 50 and I'm still going.
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The search continues. Thank you. Only 30Gb left out of 500Gb. Not much time left.Just do what I'm doing now. Delete shit you've never played (I know it's hard, trust me, but if you haven't played it in a year, you probably never will, or move stuff that would work for diff venues than you currently play at and drop them on a separate exteranal)
I just freed up a lot of gigs, maybe 40 or 50 and I'm still going.
DJ Tecoy
12:58 AM - 20 September, 2010
however, I am experiencing occasional video freeze. I'm connected firewire 800, so it must be the drive I guess.
Ahh DAMN!
Just do what I'm doing now. Delete shit you've never played (I know it's hard, trust me, but if you haven't played it in a year, you probably never will, or move stuff that would work for diff venues than you currently play at and drop them on a separate exteranal)
I just freed up a lot of gigs, maybe 40 or 50 and I'm still going.
Yeah, thats a hard one. Deleting music/videos!
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Dude, I rocking a 2tv G-tech with RAID.however, I am experiencing occasional video freeze. I'm connected firewire 800, so it must be the drive I guess.
Ahh DAMN!
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Just do what I'm doing now. Delete shit you've never played (I know it's hard, trust me, but if you haven't played it in a year, you probably never will, or move stuff that would work for diff venues than you currently play at and drop them on a separate exteranal)
I just freed up a lot of gigs, maybe 40 or 50 and I'm still going.
Yeah, thats a hard one. Deleting music/videos!
djpuma_gemini
1:54 AM - 20 September, 2010
Toss them on a drobo or a big external and when they make 2tb laptop drives you can bring them all back.
I have like 5000 and say with clean/dirty I have 2500 videos. that's a ton of shit to play at any weekly spot.
I have like 5000 and say with clean/dirty I have 2500 videos. that's a ton of shit to play at any weekly spot.
djpuma_gemini
3:13 AM - 20 September, 2010
is that the one with 4gb of flash ram. I'm looking into those, but only at 500gb I believe.
AddPop
4:50 AM - 20 September, 2010
I have like 5000 and say with clean/dirty I have 2500 videos. that's a ton of shit to play at any weekly spot.
I feel your pain. I just transport what I'm using onto a LACIE rugged 500g and run.
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Toss them on a drobo or a big external and when they make 2tb laptop drives you can bring them all back.I have like 5000 and say with clean/dirty I have 2500 videos. that's a ton of shit to play at any weekly spot.
I feel your pain. I just transport what I'm using onto a LACIE rugged 500g and run.
skinnyguy
7:02 AM - 20 September, 2010
djpuma_gemini - were you referring to my post? don't know if they have 4gb flash, but i'm looking at the 1tb size and the fw800 cable adapter. and i do believe they are bus powered.
djpuma_gemini
3:35 PM - 20 September, 2010
Oh, I see what you mean. you have to pay $40 for a firewire cable. Why not just buy a firewire drive and save some cash.
OWC mercury on the go, is what I've been using and I swapped drives in it 3 times.
OWC mercury on the go, is what I've been using and I swapped drives in it 3 times.
skinnyguy
8:16 PM - 20 September, 2010
that's the thing about seagate goflex. they come with usb 2.0 but you can buy the appropriate adapter for whatever floats your boat. it doesn't have the connection built in. you basically swap out the entire connector for fw800, usb 3.0, or esata.
djpuma_gemini
8:32 PM - 20 September, 2010
I also had a folder called wedding vids (40gigs)
pretty much I took all the po vobs that I thought would work for weddings and rendered to mp4. I moved that shit to a separate external and will probably delete them all in a year or so, since they are all straight po vob to mp4, no editing, no cropping
pretty much I took all the po vobs that I thought would work for weddings and rendered to mp4. I moved that shit to a separate external and will probably delete them all in a year or so, since they are all straight po vob to mp4, no editing, no cropping
djpuma_gemini
8:33 PM - 20 September, 2010
Damn wrong thread, but can work in this one as well.
haha
haha
DJ Dan-E
11:40 PM - 20 September, 2010
go with 2tb seagate drive in vantec esata enclosure...thing works great and you have plenty of storage.
DJ Tecoy
12:42 AM - 21 September, 2010
Ok, So I went to the Apple store today. Had the LaCie 1TB drives, no G-Tech G-Raid Mini 1TB. But they had an Iomega, go.iomega.com
Has anyone had experience with this one or know of anyone that can speak about it, good or bad?
Has anyone had experience with this one or know of anyone that can speak about it, good or bad?
DJ-Phat-AL
1:11 PM - 21 September, 2010
I use the 2.5" 1TB drives (firewire bus powered) that are 5200rpm's and NEVER had a problem with lag or anything.
popnwave
1:50 PM - 21 September, 2010
Guys streaming mp4s off a drive works just fine off 5400.. You aren't doing NLE editing of uncompressed hd streams here. Most of the hiccups related to these external drives is going to be power and bus related, not the speed of the drives at this point.
Of course this is what we are all trying to figure out. I picked up one of the OWC drives to hold me for the short term and I am pruning back to SSL video to set to bring the cream of the crop.
Right now with my DVD's I have a road case with about 8000 videos but out of those I only play 80-85 TOPS per week depending on their length and some of those are genres I don't use on my night right now. I really can cut the fat and leave stuff at home, I am just one of those guys who always wants that crazy request handy if it fits in.
Of course this is what we are all trying to figure out. I picked up one of the OWC drives to hold me for the short term and I am pruning back to SSL video to set to bring the cream of the crop.
Right now with my DVD's I have a road case with about 8000 videos but out of those I only play 80-85 TOPS per week depending on their length and some of those are genres I don't use on my night right now. I really can cut the fat and leave stuff at home, I am just one of those guys who always wants that crazy request handy if it fits in.
djpuma_gemini
4:05 PM - 21 September, 2010
I used to be like that, keep everything, but if it isn't a hit that will work in every spot I move it off site, some I keep, but some major hood tracks, or wedding only vids will sit on another external and not be plugged in.
I just trimmed about 100gigs of crap (50 of them was a folder called wedding vids, which had all my po vobs rendered to mp4 with no cropping, no need for those on my gig drive)
I'm still trimming the shit and it's looking good.
I just threw away some soulja boy vids and it feels great.
I just trimmed about 100gigs of crap (50 of them was a folder called wedding vids, which had all my po vobs rendered to mp4 with no cropping, no need for those on my gig drive)
I'm still trimming the shit and it's looking good.
I just threw away some soulja boy vids and it feels great.
DJ Tecoy
4:48 PM - 21 September, 2010
LMAO!
Ok, I think I'm going to pass on the LaCie & go with either the www.g-technology.com or go.iomega.com
Any suggestions on which?
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I just threw away some soulja boy vids and it feels great.LMAO!
Ok, I think I'm going to pass on the LaCie & go with either the www.g-technology.com or go.iomega.com
Any suggestions on which?
djpuma_gemini
4:53 PM - 21 September, 2010
I think the g-raid is nice (didn't know it was two drives and bus powered), too bad you can't buy the enclosure and toss your own drives in.
I still go with OWC and use your own drives, but they aren't esata powered.
I still go with OWC and use your own drives, but they aren't esata powered.
DJMark
11:20 PM - 21 September, 2010
I'm reading what seem to be widely varying experiences with the 5200rpm 1TB drives...makes me think that maybe a lot of people have defective samples that run abnormally slow, or maybe they're being bitten by the SATA controller weirdness in some of the recent MacBook Pro models.
Anyway my own solution to a "running out of room" scenario will probably be getting one of those OWC adaptors to mount a second internal drive in place of the optical, and put something like a 120gb SSD on that for boot/applications. Then repartitioning the 750gb drive I have now to just one partition for music/video library. That way, if I do end up needing to go with the potentially-slower 1tb size in a few months (if nothing better is out by then), the whole OS and apps won't be affected by performance changes.
Anyway my own solution to a "running out of room" scenario will probably be getting one of those OWC adaptors to mount a second internal drive in place of the optical, and put something like a 120gb SSD on that for boot/applications. Then repartitioning the 750gb drive I have now to just one partition for music/video library. That way, if I do end up needing to go with the potentially-slower 1tb size in a few months (if nothing better is out by then), the whole OS and apps won't be affected by performance changes.
Marine
12:58 AM - 22 September, 2010
I've been through alot of lacie drives had problems with two of my lacie rugged drives. I purchased a g-technolgy external hard drive 7 months ago and no problems at all would highly recommend.
DJ Tecoy
2:57 PM - 22 September, 2010
yeah, its a mix of good & bad with the LaCie Rugged drives. Kinda like the luck of the draw that you get a good drive or a bad one.
But nothing but good things are from the G-Techs G-Raid Mini's. Well one person had a bad experience. My friend who does HD Broadcast Video uses the LaCie Rugged & swears by it. Of course he uses the 500gb which he purchased last year.
But nothing but good things are from the G-Techs G-Raid Mini's. Well one person had a bad experience. My friend who does HD Broadcast Video uses the LaCie Rugged & swears by it. Of course he uses the 500gb which he purchased last year.
lvmez
3:03 PM - 22 September, 2010
i've been using a lacie rugged drive(500gb, firewire) for over a year. working pefect.
popnwave
3:54 PM - 22 September, 2010
Hehe it's been posted on the forums before but this has kept me from messing with the rugged LaCie drives:
djatrak.com
djatrak.com
DJ Tecoy
4:03 PM - 22 September, 2010
Yeah, I saw that article/blog post. But its dated in 2008. Would think that LaCie got a wind of that & possibly done something about it in their future models. Idk!
popnwave
4:16 PM - 22 September, 2010
Very true, a lot of time has passed. Anyone know what the "guts" on LaCie's are? I know the OWC one I bought was a Hitachi drive inside.
DJMark
5:08 PM - 22 September, 2010
Probably whatever they can get cheapest at a given capacity. The one sample of a Lacie "rugged" drive I used (about a year ago) had a 500gb Seagate inside.
Whether it was because of the electronics in the enclosure, or the hard drive itself, it was the weakest-performing FW800 drive I've ever seen, and the build quality of the enclosure was not impressive.
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Anyone know what the "guts" on LaCie's are?Probably whatever they can get cheapest at a given capacity. The one sample of a Lacie "rugged" drive I used (about a year ago) had a 500gb Seagate inside.
Whether it was because of the electronics in the enclosure, or the hard drive itself, it was the weakest-performing FW800 drive I've ever seen, and the build quality of the enclosure was not impressive.
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