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FINALLY WENT PUBLIC..

DJ Rumors 4:00 AM - 9 February, 2010
Just thought I'd share my FIRST public experience with SL and my Rane TTM57:

Dj'd at a private birthday party this past Friday night at the largest club we have in our city (here's a link of the club: purecolumbia.com ) Hooked everything up to the club system and it was AWSOME! I was a bit worried because some of my tracks arent all that great as far as bit rate (many 128 and 196) but the TTM57 made them sound GREAT! I've had SL for about a year now and my TTM for about 6 months so I wanted to take the time to learn to use everything well before I went public, especially after reading some of the horror stories on here. LOL.
Nevertheless, I played from 9pm to 2:45am without as much as a 'hiccup" with the entire setup!! Gonna list my setup and pc specs just for reference sake to the ones interested.
Equipment:
2 - Technics SL 1210MK
Rane TTM 57SL
Korg Nano Pad
2 - Ortofon Concorde Dj Cartridges
Genre:
Old School R & B with some Hip Hop
Computer Specs: (Desktop)
Gateway 64 Bit w/ Windows XP Pro
AMD Phenom™ II X4 quad-core processor
8GB DDR2 memory
1TB Hard Drive (Main Hard Drive...NO 3rd party applications on here at all..only drivers and applications required to run Windows..only application running is Scratch Live!)
500 MB Internal Hard Drive (Backup Drive)
500 MB Maxtor One Touch External hard Drive (Music Files on Here only)
ATI Radeon HD 5870 graphics w/ 1024MB video memory and DirectX 11
Note: This pc ONLY plays Scratch Live and NOTHING else..No internet at all! I use a Laplink Ethernet Transfer Cable to move my music from my personal pc to this one.

Took pics but they came out too dark in the club..will take some at home and post soon.
Just thought everyone could use some GOOD NEWS about the products we're committed to!
sacrilicious 4:05 AM - 9 February, 2010
Glad to hear all went well. Seems like you definitely put in the practice and preparation to make everything go smoothly
DJ Sniffles 4:37 AM - 9 February, 2010
Thought this was a "coming out" story....
valdini 1:01 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Not too sure ANY mixer will make 128k bitrate tracks sound great...little bit dubious?

But good to hear the gig went well all the same!

K
DJ TOGTFO 1:07 PM - 9 February, 2010
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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:16 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Thought this was a "coming out" story....


And you're here becuz.....??????
DJ Rumors 1:34 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Not too sure ANY mixer will make 128k bitrate tracks sound great...little bit dubious?

But good to hear the gig went well all the same!

K


I was skeptical going into the show myself..but as I stated..everything sounded great! I did have to keep adjusting my gains a bit to keep songs in line, but overall the AutoGain did it's job.


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Thought this was a "coming out" story....


Just thought it would be nice to hear some Good News,..over all the complaints I see on this forum. MOST problems could be easily resolved by better pc settings and adjustments and preparations. It seems that we have TONS of complaint threads but very few success stories on here.
DJ Rumors 2:48 PM - 9 February, 2010
Here are some pics of the setup guys..keep in mind this is merely my initial HOME setup. I dont keep "heavy" equipment in house.

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latinblood2k1 3:25 PM - 9 February, 2010
perhaps a better hosting site would be better or a link that we can directly see the pics without downloading it?
DJ Rumors 4:20 PM - 9 February, 2010
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perhaps a better hosting site would be better or a link that we can directly see the pics without downloading it?


I'm up for suggestions..I'll be glad re post on another site. Sorry about that, I dont upload much.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:28 PM - 9 February, 2010
photobucket mabbye
DJ Rumors 4:29 PM - 9 February, 2010
ok..kool..will re do..thnx guys!
DJ Rumors 4:52 PM - 9 February, 2010
Here ya go guys..hope this is better for ya'll.
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latindj 5:27 PM - 9 February, 2010
Yo! Where did you get that cool mouse pad? I need to find me one of those...

:P
DJ Rumors 6:28 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Yo! Where did you get that cool mouse pad? I need to find me one of those...

:P

LOL! I'm guessing you were just messing with me...It's just a PIECE cut from an old pad. LOL!
Flipsta 6:39 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Not too sure ANY mixer will make 128k bitrate tracks sound great...little bit dubious?

But good to hear the gig went well all the same!

K


I was skeptical going into the show myself..but as I stated..everything sounded great! I did have to keep adjusting my gains a bit to keep songs in line, but overall the AutoGain did it's job.



Not trying to split hairs here....but Auto Gain has nothing to do with bit-rates. 128 files will still sound like crap compared to 320's.

And one more thing...your laptop is a beast!! :)

A quad-core just for SL? You could be playing a game, editing a photo, downloading some *ahem "music," and djing all at same time....
DJ Rumors 6:49 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Not trying to split hairs here....but Auto Gain has nothing to do with bit-rates. 128 files will still sound like crap compared to 320's.


All I'm saying is that AutoGain kept the tracks "somewhat" within range of each other when they played. I can respect you guys on the bit rate deal..but all I can tell ya is that the lower ones didnt sound too bad...not as good as the 320's..but not too bad at all.


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And one more thing...your laptop is a beast!! :)

A quad-core just for SL? You could be playing a game, editing a photo, downloading some *ahem "music," and djing all at same time....


Yeah...but I'd rather have the BEST playing SL program out there..besides...I dont play video games and I always have my other pc with me for all that other stuff. Oh..and by the way..it's NOT a laptop..it's a desktop Tower PC specially designed for me. (simply gutted out the original and reinstalled the new stuff) thanks for the nod, though! ;)
Flipsta 6:53 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Yeah...but I'd rather have the BEST playing SL program out there..besides...I dont play video games and I always have my other pc with me for all that other stuff. Oh..and by the way..it's NOT a laptop..it's a desktop Tower PC specially designed for me. (simply gutted out the original and reinstalled the new stuff) thanks for the nod, though! ;)


Nice, I was wondering...and also jealous...haha. My laptop is dedicated to SL but its only a 3200+ single core. It runs SL like a champ but I can't do other stuff at same time.
DJ Rumors 6:56 PM - 9 February, 2010
for all the gues wondering about the Bit Rate thing..listen to this and tell me if you can tell the difference between the good and the bad ones:

scratchlive.net
Flipsta 7:02 PM - 9 February, 2010
i was wondering about your laptop being a quad-core with 8gb of ram just for SL. lol..not bit-rates. There is no question about bit-rates. If you encode two files from .wav....one 128 and one 320 there is a noticeable difference. Auto-gain won't change that.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:13 PM - 9 February, 2010
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Not trying to split hairs here....but Auto Gain has nothing to do with bit-rates. 128 files will still sound like crap compared to 320's.


All I'm saying is that AutoGain kept the tracks "somewhat" within range of each other when they played. I can respect you guys on the bit rate deal..but all I can tell ya is that the lower ones didnt sound too bad...not as good as the 320's..but not too bad at all.



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And one more thing...your laptop is a beast!! :)

A quad-core just for SL? You could be playing a game, editing a photo, downloading some *ahem "music," and djing all at same time....


Yeah...but I'd rather have the BEST playing SL program out there..besides...I dont play video games and I always have my other pc with me for all that other stuff. Oh..and by the way..it's NOT a laptop..it's a desktop Tower PC specially designed for me. (simply gutted out the original and reinstalled the new stuff) thanks for the nod, though! ;)


how much did the build cost you, im thining about building a desktop from the ground up but i dont know if i would be saving enuogh money to make it worth the hastle
DJ Rumors 8:18 PM - 9 February, 2010
A buddy of mine Built it for me and I purchased most of the hardware from different internet sites. Parts cost me about right around $1000, but believe me, if I had to purchase a pc with these specs..it would be double to three times the cost.
DJ Rumors 8:44 PM - 9 February, 2010
forgot to mention..that that price included small fee my buddy charged me to build it.
DJKelly 8:13 AM - 10 February, 2010
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i was wondering about your laptop being a quad-core with 8gb of ram just for SL. lol..not bit-rates. There is no question about bit-rates. If you encode two files from .wav....one 128 and one 320 there is a noticeable difference. Auto-gain won't change that.


You will certainly notice the difference in a strict A/B test of the two files. However.. throw in all the ambient noise in a club.. and knowing that 90% of clubs have, shall we say, less than stellar sound systems.. by and large the crowd won't notice (and perhaps sadly more importantly..care) whether or not its the best bitrate. Especially the later it gets toward closing time.. !!!!

Of course you'd opt not to use low quality files on a very good system. They're only a tiny fraction of your library anyway, right??? :)

DJ Kelly
vinylmanipulator 8:56 AM - 10 February, 2010
and I thought this was a 2.0 Public Invite story...:-p Shouldn't be long now....
SuckaDJ 9:23 AM - 10 February, 2010
You brought your PC to the club to spin?
SuckaDJ 9:23 AM - 10 February, 2010
(desktop)
DJ Rumors 12:59 PM - 10 February, 2010
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Of course you'd opt not to use low quality files on a very good system. They're only a tiny fraction of your library anyway, right??? :)

DJ Kelly

Yes You're correct...maybe only a couple hundred files out of 40,000+ are less than 256-320 Bit Rate. Most of the lower bit rates are older and harder to get tracks since I play Old School stuff.

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You brought your PC to the club to spin?


Yes, I never was into the laptop thing. Wanted to be a little different. It's really not that much different, especially now that I have the TTM57, because I RARELY have to use keyboards and mouse I stick the PC under the table and ROLLLLLLL wit it!
Flipsta 7:24 PM - 10 February, 2010
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how much did the build cost you, im thining about building a desktop from the ground up but i dont know if i would be saving enuogh money to make it worth the hastle


I built a new PC for production in fall 2008 for under $700, heres the specs to give you an idea. Keep in mind all these parts would be even cheaper now...all ordered from newegg.

quad-core Q6660 2.4 GHz
4GB RAM
GeForce 8800 GT
640 GB SATA hard drive

Thats not including peripherals; keyboard, mouse, etc. and I already had a monitor, so that could add a couple hundred more. But ya, you can build a banging PC for cheap.
DJ Rumors 8:15 PM - 10 February, 2010
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I built a new PC for production in fall 2008 for under $700, heres the specs to give you an idea. Keep in mind all these parts would be even cheaper now...all ordered from newegg.

quad-core Q6660 2.4 GHz
4GB RAM
GeForce 8800 GT
640 GB SATA hard drive


That's about what I paid for my system excluding the $150 I gave my buddy to build it for me. I have a lil more "UMPH" built into mine..but still a TURBO system you have there!
Evil_banana 1:04 PM - 12 February, 2010
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for all the gues wondering about the Bit Rate thing..listen to this and tell me if you can tell the difference between the good and the bad ones:

scratchlive.net

So you want people to evaluate audio-quality by listening to a mix... in compressed format... ?
DJ Rumors 10:29 PM - 12 February, 2010
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So you want people to evaluate audio-quality by listening to a mix... in compressed format... ?


Noooooooo! That's NOT what I'm suggestion . There were some guys disputing how much of a difference the bit rate made as far as SOUND quality..I'd thought I'd give them a sample of how CONSISTENT the audio stayed during a mix. Which was my ENTIRE point to begin with.When played thru the club system..it sounded just as good..which is what brought the initial debate on bit rate.
Thnx for listening to it though. ;)
papsworth 10:39 PM - 12 February, 2010
I don't want you to take this the wrong way but as a DJ there are certain things you don't do and showing up to a gig with a desktop computer and monitor is one of them.

No offense.
CMOS 11:23 PM - 12 February, 2010
What benefit do you think you are getting from bringing that desktop?
DJ Rumors 12:36 AM - 13 February, 2010
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I don't want you to take this the wrong way but as a DJ there are certain things you don't do and showing up to a gig with a desktop computer and monitor is one of them.

No offense.

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What benefit do you think you are getting from bringing that desktop?


Who in the WORLD made this rule?? I thought being any type of entertainer meant having INDIVIDUALITY. If all of us dj exactly alike..what fun would that be? I"ve always gotten nothing but props and compliments from my setup. It's not like I have the pc sitting up on the table when I did my gig. In fact, it was LESS obvious than a laptop sitting up on top of my equipment. I was in a dj booth and the pc was under the table. I setup 2 hrs before the club even opened, which I assume is the case when most dj's get ready to gig, so no one even saw me setting up.
Hell...I dont see the problem.
Sticky K 1:30 AM - 13 February, 2010
there is no rule dude and do what you need to... I just feel for you (no homo) for setting up all that extra stuff.
SuckaDJ 9:08 AM - 13 February, 2010
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SuckaDJ 9:09 AM - 13 February, 2010
Also I just think that is HILARIOUS lol, but that's just me I guess.
DJ Rumors 2:16 PM - 13 February, 2010
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there is no rule dude and do what you need to... I just feel for you (no homo) for setting up all that extra stuff.


I understand your concern...but I don't believe it's no different than the guys that setup 2 turntables and 2 cdj's , or guys that setup a gazillion speakers when they only need a few. All I'm saying is,,,it's not that much of a problem setting up a pc versus a laptop. But I appreciate everyone's opinions.
SuckaDJ 7:28 PM - 13 February, 2010
To me it seems like a laptop you can just show up 5 minutes before a gig, hook up usb, cv's/needles and you're set.

Desktop, omg I can't imagine. Multiple cables to route, to the outlets/desktop to monitor, walking past the people in line with a desktop/monitor. LOL

Try a laptop sometime, makes it a LITTLE bit more easier ;)
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:40 PM - 13 February, 2010
Let him BE. Technically, it's no different than someone showing up with a Karaoke setup.....right?

And I betchu his desktop is more powerful than a LOT of laptops out there.

Plus, think about it.

Who's really gonna steal a DESKTOP? Cats would be scoping out your lappy...right?

Sheer genius.
SuckaDJ 6:38 AM - 14 February, 2010
If it was sheer genius, I'm sure the pros (well the more known DJs) would have already been using their desktops. Plus they wouldn't even have to set it up themselves.

Just sayin..
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:07 PM - 14 February, 2010
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If it was sheer genius, I'm sure the pros (well the more known DJs) would have already been using their desktops. Plus they wouldn't even have to set it up themselves.

Just sayin..


Well Known DJ's aren't necessarily Technical Gurus.
Discobee 1:10 AM - 15 February, 2010
I once saw a DJ play in a well known Seattle nightclub with his Apple computer, the one that's like all-in-one on the monitor pedestal. He was rockin' it and all you could see from the bar was the back of a flat monitor, which looked just like a laptop. No hatin' on that...he rocked his set.
DJ Rumors 1:35 AM - 15 February, 2010
It's no big deal fellas..really...I just wanted to share how well the first public gig went for me using SSL and the TTM57. So much BAD posts on here...just thought I'd share some GOOD stuff for a change. But everyone's entitle to use whatever setup works for them..as long as it works..LOL!
SuckaDJ 4:54 AM - 15 February, 2010
No you're right, I apologize. Hey if it gets the job done then so be it. Keep up the good work Rumors!
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:17 PM - 15 February, 2010
if it gets the job done it gets the job done, my boy brought his desktop to do a gig a few weeks ago, did it work yes.....my personal opinion was it looked unprofessional the way he has it set up but the i guess it went along with his shitty overall performance lol
DJ Rumors 12:44 AM - 16 February, 2010
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my personal opinion was it looked unprofessional the way he has it set up but the i guess it went along with his shitty overall performance lol


I hear ya..but with my setup,... all you can see is the equipment ABOVE the table. I have a complete black or white skirting around the tables hiding my pc and all wiring so it's TOTALLY unnoticeable.
THIS is all people see:
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StevenWayne 1:04 AM - 16 February, 2010
why are your trim and bass knobs maxed out??
DJ Rumors 3:09 AM - 16 February, 2010
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why are your trim and bass knobs maxed out??


I use the "AUX OUT" for recording and playback, so my volume is adjusted there. Bass isnt maxed out though, see:

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Dj-M.Bezzle 3:05 PM - 16 February, 2010
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my personal opinion was it looked unprofessional the way he has it set up but the i guess it went along with his shitty overall performance lol


I hear ya..but with my setup,... all you can see is the equipment ABOVE the table. I have a complete black or white skirting around the tables hiding my pc and all wiring so it's TOTALLY unnoticeable.
THIS is all people see:
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ya the dude i saw giggin with it had his on top of the table next to all his gear, he also had the gamming tower with all the neon fans and bars lighting up the inside, i wanted to walk up and ask if there was a world of warcraft LAN party after the party or something
DJ Rumors 3:17 PM - 16 February, 2010
^ LMAOOOO! Bezzle never fails to make my day! Gotta luv it! SMH!
ryansupak 3:18 PM - 16 February, 2010
papsworth: I'm glad there are knowledgeable CoolGuys whose job -- nay, whose DUTY it is to instruct people as to what's correct.

Speaking for myself (though I'm sure hundreds of others feel the same) let me just say....thank you. Thank you so much for setting us straight.

rs
djbabyboy 4:05 AM - 17 February, 2010
Whats up DJRumors... Thanks for stopping by and checking me out on UStream tonight.
DJ'Que 5:13 AM - 17 February, 2010
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You brought your PC to the club to spin?
im at home laughing my ass off. I could see the people face like no he didnt bring his home cpu. had to go there.
latindj 6:59 AM - 17 February, 2010
why do you laugh? what if he rocked the party with that computer? does that still make him a bad dj? GTFO....I've seen hundreds of dj's with nice macbook pro's who can't mix a lick without a waveform or automix. Does that make them better because they brought a laptop with them?

Keep doing what you do best Dj Rumors and don't let listen to any of these payasos...
DJ Rumors 1:37 PM - 17 February, 2010
Hey listen guys.....it's not big deal about the pc thing. I've shown ya'll what I'm workin with and I've also provided a sample of my mix skills. Nothing to hide here..except...my PC which is always out of sight! LOL!

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GTFO....I've seen hundreds of dj's with nice macbook pro's who can't mix a lick without a waveform or automix. Does that make them better because they brought a laptop with them?

Keep doing what you do best Dj Rumors and don't let listen to any of these payasos...


^ Agreed! Thnx
Evil_banana 3:26 PM - 17 February, 2010
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why do you laugh? what if he rocked the party with that computer? does that still make him a bad dj? GTFO....

Because when you read that line, you almost immediately imagine what Bezzle saw... a guy siting in the booth with a huge tower next to the turntable, neon tubes and fans and flickering lights all over the place insinuating that the DJ is playing warcraft rather than DJ'ing... that's what made ME laugh at least. And admit it, if you imagine that picture, it's funny as hell.

But the way DJ Rumors has set it up, it's obvious waaaaaaay different than what I imagined, nice and tidy. Actually, no difference with a laptop at all from the crowd's perspective. And of course it makes no difference in performance with a laptop. Knowing how to rock a crowd has nothing to do with equipment. If you got the skills, even a cassette deck will do.

Cheers Rumors! :o)
DJ Rumors 3:59 PM - 17 February, 2010
^ Thnx EB!!
rollanotherone 9:41 PM - 21 February, 2010
Hey Rumors, whats that little white pad with the 10 or so buttons, next to your 57? Is that a que point pad? If so, where and how much? The buttons on my lap top arent responsive enough, and are a bit delayed. You know what I mean?
DJ Rumors 11:57 PM - 21 February, 2010
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Hey Rumors, whats that little white pad with the 10 or so buttons, next to your 57?


It's just a Nano Pad (Yamaha) midi controller. I basically use it for my name drops and setting my loops and cue points at times.