Forum moderation and banning people

Sam 11:35 PM - 24 July, 2006

Taken from a discussion in another thread: www.scratchlive.net

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As Clark@Breakinrecords wrote earlier in this thread "It's sad that I'm sounding like the only voice of balance and reason, and the Serato moderators aren't getting involved. Let me say a curse word, and I'm "BANNED

SERATO MODERATORS: Why are you seemingly selective and unbalanced in your banning and "discipline" procedures? "

I'm sure there are cases where the moderation of this forum, and especially banning people, might be unbalanced. Mostly, this is because we don't have the time to read through every post. If Clark or anyone else has any specific complaints, please let me know.

You will not be banned for swearing. We'd prefer if you didn't swear, just for the sake of politeness, but if you must, so be it.

The terms and conditions of the forum are:

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You must agree to:

1. Be nice to others
2. Not pass yourself off as a Serato or Rane employee
3. Not post advertisements for any product or service

Very simple really. Most people are banned for violating the first one. In fact I believe all bannings are about #1. Sometimes we'll warn someone, depending on how rude they are being. We generally don't care what was said to provoke the person concerned - if they are blatantly rude to other people, they'll be warned or banned. Of course if someone else said something rude to them, they'll be warned or banned too.

If you have a complaint about the conduct of any individual on the forum, please PM one of the moderators:
Sam: www.scratchlive.net
Josh: www.scratchlive.net
Matt: scratchlive.net
Shaun: www.scratchlive.net
Zach: www.scratchlive.net
Dave: www.scratchlive.net

nik39 11:50 PM - 24 July, 2006

Please make this sticky.

Pete Moss 12:02 AM - 25 July, 2006

ditto

DJ_Mike_Coquilla 12:16 AM - 25 July, 2006

where's my deputy badge :)

MusicMeister 1:39 AM - 25 July, 2006

Sam: Any chance of adding rule 4? Thou shalt not feed the trolls? ;-) Not that I'd ever do something like that....

Sam 3:42 AM - 25 July, 2006

naaaa ... we don't like rules. we want to have as few as possible!

Julls 1:26 AM - 26 July, 2006

I think it would do us a lot of good if we had a user moderator that can devote a lot of time on here, not to name any names or anything *cough *cough nik39. I think a lot of problems could be solved.

DJMark 3:55 AM - 26 July, 2006

This is no reflection of my attitudes towards Nik, who I consider as "MVP" atatus here: I don't think having him (or any other "user") as a moderator is a wise idea...unless he was actually put on the payroll and given that as part of the job responsibilities.

Control needs to be with the employees of the two companies, people who can be held accountable for their actions. I've seen other forums devolve into fanboyism, freakish control games and worse when that principle wasn't kept.

MusicMeister 6:20 AM - 26 July, 2006

FYI - I've moderated a large forum before (as just one of a member of the team) and it takes a LOT of time. We had to provide coverage if one person was out of town or unable to log on.

Just in case you're wondering, the board had over 15,000 members, thousands of them posting daily, and we generated thousands of posts everday - and ALL of them were read and reviewed in a short period of time. BTW, the board had the highest signal to noise ratio of ANY board I've EVER been on. And in case you're wondering it was car based.

All the moderators were unpaid volunteers who were selected from the membership and volunteered their time to the community. I helped moderate the board for nearly 3 years and it was a chore.

All in all, the notifying of the existing moderators works very well provided they can respond quickly. We used a similar method and after a while the users tended to self police - keeping new users and trouble makers in line.

nik39 8:56 AM - 26 July, 2006

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This is no reflection of my attitudes towards Nik, who I consider as "MVP" atatus here: I don't think having him (or any other "user") as a moderator is a wise idea...unless he was actually put on the payroll and given that as part of the job responsibilities.

Control needs to be with the employees of the two companies, people who can be held accountable for their actions.

This is not attemp to diss myself or anyone either ;) I absolutely agree with Mark.

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 7:40 PM - 26 July, 2006

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This is no reflection of my attitudes towards Nik, who I consider as "MVP" atatus here: I don't think having him (or any other "user") as a moderator is a wise idea...unless he was actually put on the payroll and given that as part of the job responsibilities.

Control needs to be with the employees of the two companies, people who can be held accountable for their actions. I've seen other forums devolve into fanboyism, freakish control games and worse when that principle wasn't kept.

I disagree. I think Serato is absolutely nuts for not making nik a paid employee: Chief Serato Moderator. I'm being very serious. The writing is on the wall.

And to the infamous Mr. Sam:

Please at least send a taunting note that you used my comment for a whole friggin' discussion!

No, I didn't literally mean

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Let me say a curse word, and I'm BANNED(!)

I suspect you understand the spirit of the meaning.

Sam 10:26 PM - 26 July, 2006

I don't think Nik would take the job if we offered it. He has this hang up about remaining independent ;)
Sorry Clark, I didn't want to hijack Niro's thread, so I started a new one.

soon-2-be-ex-FS2user 12:09 AM - 28 July, 2006

i likes to using the ban roll on it in the undermy arms. sorry for jaking hi. thanks

djxatl 7:48 AM - 28 July, 2006

personally i think soon-2-be-ex-FS2user should be designated a moderator

djxatl 7:48 AM - 28 July, 2006

thanks

ejayian 5:58 AM - 30 July, 2006

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thanks

LOL thats the funniest shit!
Your punchlines timing was absolutely perfect!

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 3:43 PM - 30 July, 2006

We all know I'd be a moderator if I could just promote my sites: Breakin-Records.com and Breakin-Forum.com . Since Serato probably wouldn't let me promote them, I couldn't.

mexicannnnnn 6:26 PM - 31 July, 2006

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We all know I'd be a moderator if I could just promote my sites: Breakin-Records.com and Breakin-Forum.com . Since Serato probably wouldn't let me promote them, I couldn't.

lol!!!

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 11:32 PM - 31 July, 2006

Well, maybe I shouldn't mention Breakin-Records.com and Breakin-Forum.com in this forum.

punosion 4:48 AM - 1 August, 2006

In the stickies, man...how low can you go?

Enough already.

djHSL 6:14 AM - 1 August, 2006

Broken-Records.

Living up to its name.

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 6:03 PM - 1 August, 2006

Please tell me when to laugh.

Matt G 10:58 PM - 1 August, 2006

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FYI - I've moderated a large forum before (as just one of a member of the team) and it takes a LOT of time.

Agreed. Keeping an eye on a large forum can be a full time job for a single person. I've run/moderated some others in the past and it's quite life consuming trying to keep up with every single thread.

Being that we don't have a person whose sole job is to keep an eye on the whole forum, we rely on you alerting us to any problems. So if you see something, let us know! Thanks.

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 3:52 PM - 2 August, 2006

We bought the product. Why don't you just hire someone?

punosion 6:20 PM - 2 August, 2006

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We bought the product. Why don't you just hire someone?

This is a silly question. Why hire a full-timer to monitor a measly board when they could hire, say, another programmer?

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 6:49 PM - 2 August, 2006

This is not a "measly board." This board potentially saves un-told $$ for the Tech. Support dept., for the Programming dept. (beta's), etc.

soon-2-be-ex-FS2user 9:13 PM - 2 August, 2006

can i do like the read-ing for a forums so to pay me a monies to help. thanks

punosion 10:19 PM - 2 August, 2006

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This is not a "measly board." This board potentially saves un-told $$ for the Tech. Support dept., for the Programming dept. (beta's), etc.

It sure does...what I mean is measly as in I just don't think it's nearly big enough to warrant a full-time employee looking after the boards. The mods do a reasonable job with the traffic as it is, and 99.9% of the people around here play nice 99.9% of the time.

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 11:37 PM - 2 August, 2006

"... 99.9% of the people around here play nice 99.9% of the time."

I guess I fit in the .1%.

earwolf 11:56 AM - 3 August, 2006

i say ban everyone, that will keep things tidy

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 12:40 PM - 4 August, 2006

I'm putting out a petition to ban Sam.

Does everyone know what his official title is? Has he told you?

DJ_Mike_Coquilla 4:33 PM - 4 August, 2006

how does that saying go .... something bout biting the hand that feeds u?

s42000 4:33 PM - 4 August, 2006

^^^ What ? Why Ban Sam ...
He has followed all the rules as far as I know ...

DJ_Mike_Coquilla 4:33 PM - 4 August, 2006

or shaking tha hand that feeds u....i forget

DJ_Mike_Coquilla 4:36 PM - 4 August, 2006

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^^^ What ? Why Ban Sam ...
He has followed all the rules as far as I know ...

dittoe, Sam's so nice, he's even granted "soon-2-be-ex-FS2user" safe passage / immortal immunity :)

s42000 4:45 PM - 4 August, 2006

^^^ soon-2-be-ex-FS2user ... is following the rules too, weird character but not flaunting the rulebook as before.

Equal Opportunity ...

s42000 4:46 PM - 4 August, 2006

thanks

punosion 4:48 PM - 4 August, 2006

Doesn't "Serato" mean "BANNED" in some language or dialect? They both kinda' hang ominously below usernames. ;)

tig ol' bitties 5:17 PM - 4 August, 2006

Is this a banned made of rubber thanks

djxatl 7:18 PM - 4 August, 2006

thanks im new

djHSL 1:31 AM - 5 August, 2006

Clark-the-broken-record ... a great advertisement for any business.

ejayian 2:10 AM - 5 August, 2006

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I'm putting out a petition to ban Sam.

Does everyone know what his official title is? Has he told you?

Isnt that not being nice to sam?

ejayian 2:11 AM - 5 August, 2006

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I'm putting out a petition to ban Sam.

Does everyone know what his official title is? Has he told you?

Isnt that not being nice to sam?

Isnt pointing out that clark isnt being nice to sam also not being nice?

DJMark 4:13 AM - 5 August, 2006

I think that sometimes being nice is not being nice.

earwolf 7:49 AM - 5 August, 2006

nice

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 4:46 PM - 6 August, 2006

"Nice" should be banned. It's ambiguous.

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