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Pre-Fader Master Cue

Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 1:24 PM - 4 July, 2006
I really wish Rane would take my cue section request seriously. Yes, I'm one person, but two or three other compnies have the feature I've requested. It's difficult to describe.

Ecler calls it "Scratch Cue;" my Stanton SA-12 (also on SA-5) calls it "Post;" and I think some Vestax models have a similar feature:

The feature allows one to play one song on one side, while playing the second deck with the second line fader's volume at any level. The line fader has the same effect on the mains, but has full volume on both sides in the headphones.

Therefore, one may practice scratches in the headphones, with effecting mains, and having the benefit of the cross-fader, or one may scratch with a line-fader attenuated, but hear fully in the headphones.

This is a HUGE deal for me. This, along with price, are why I will not purchase a TTM-57SL. If this feature were added, and the price was dramatically dropped to no more than $500, then I might buy one.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 1:26 PM - 4 July, 2006
Or, maybe it should be called something else, sorry.
boabmatic 2:28 PM - 4 July, 2006
don't think the price will ever hit $500 :)

Rane mods did say they were looking at adding split cue and also the possiblity of a CUE group where stuff like this may be developed in the future updates...
nobspangle 5:48 PM - 4 July, 2006
$500, I don't think you can buy the parts for $500.
DJK 11:28 AM - 5 July, 2006
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...This, along with price, are why I will not purchase a TTM-57SL...


I don't think it's gonna matter much since people are lining up by the hundreds and waiting for weeks and even months to get theirs...
Dj KaGeN 4:22 PM - 5 July, 2006
you can barely score a USED TTM56 for that price!!!!
Rane
rj 10:33 PM - 5 July, 2006
clark,
not clear on what cue feature you are after. The 57 has the original "scratch cue" where the pre-fader cue for PGM1 and PGM2 is on a small "cue" fader, at full volume, regardless of channel fader of cross fader position, which allows you to practice scratches (as long as the "master cue" and "effects cue" switches are off). Is this what you need?
nobspangle 7:42 AM - 6 July, 2006
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clark,
not clear on what cue feature you are after. The 57 has the original "scratch cue" where the pre-fader cue for PGM1 and PGM2 is on a small "cue" fader, at full volume, regardless of channel fader of cross fader position, which allows you to practice scratches (as long as the "master cue" and "effects cue" switches are off). Is this what you need?

I think Clark is after a cue that is pre fader for the channel fader, but post fader for the crossfader so you can practice scratches with the crossfader in your headphones.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 10:03 PM - 6 July, 2006
No. I want more than what the Rane scratch mixers currently have. There would be three modes of the cue.

Please read about the mixers I mentioned to further understand:

www.eclerdjdivision.com


Again, Ecler calls it "Scratch Cue"



I'll use my SA-12 labeling to explain:

[from Stanton site for similar SA-5"3 position cue select switch Pre CF / Post CF Cue / Master"]

1)Pre - (pre-master) hear full channels before main crossfader, independent of line faders, adjustable with cue crossfader;

2)Master - obvious; one hears exactly what goes over the mains/output;

3) Post <<<This is the addition>>> - Acts just like master, except un-affected by line faders; also can be effected by cue's crossfader; allows one to hear channels at full volume (when cue crossfader is in the middle), independent of where the line-faders are set--line faders don't effect volume in headphones. Therefore, scratches/mixes may be heard clearly, post-crossfader, but un-affected by line-fader volume. This is a necessity for me.

Also, I wasn't trying to sound threatening about not buying the mixer. I was merely being honest.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 10:08 PM - 6 July, 2006
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$500, I don't think you can buy the parts for $500.


Non commento, Amigo.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 10:09 PM - 6 July, 2006
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clark,
not clear on what cue feature you are after. The 57 has the original "scratch cue" where the pre-fader cue for PGM1 and PGM2 is on a small "cue" fader, at full volume, regardless of channel fader of cross fader position, which allows you to practice scratches (as long as the "master cue" and "effects cue" switches are off). Is this what you need?

I think Clark is after a cue that is pre fader for the channel fader, but post fader for the crossfader so you can practice scratches with the crossfader in your headphones.


Actually, in essence, you are correct, but it would be used to do much more.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 10:13 PM - 6 July, 2006
If I were a begging man, I'd beg Serato for this feature. Alas, but, I'm not. Oh, well.

Is the ability to import Serato controls fully proprietary. In other words, could another mixer company integrate Serato controls? I know you'll probably say no, but I'm curious.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 9:54 PM - 24 July, 2006
This is discouraging that I seemingly haven't been given much consideration on this issue.
Deft 1:08 PM - 25 July, 2006
Yeah would be a useful feature. All they need to do is implement a post-fader cue signal which is muted at the main mixing bus when selected for cueing. It just depends if they have the buttons available to select this (so maybe it will rely on having the software open?).
Have you put this in the feature suggestion forum? I think something along these lines has been suggested like Baobmatic mentioned earlier in this thread.
nik39 7:37 AM - 26 October, 2006
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Yeah would be a useful feature. All they need to do is implement a post-fader cue signal which is muted at the main mixing bus when selected for cueing. It just depends if they have the buttons available to select this (so maybe it will rely on having the software open?).

I agree.
Seasinz 12:50 PM - 26 October, 2006
Me too, although there are alot of other features Id rather have first.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 2:47 PM - 26 October, 2006
Oh, its a huge deal to me. I want something identical to Stanton's Pre\Master\Post system just like on SA-12/SA-5/SA.5 mixers.

I just realized what Vestax and Ecler ("Scratch Cue") has is not exactly what I want.
Clark @ Breakin-Records.com 2:48 PM - 26 October, 2006
I meant to say "have" in the above sentence.
DJ ROCK DEE 4:35 PM - 3 November, 2007
A SPILT CUE IS NESSECARY!!! I have suggested this 2 RANE as 1 of the features that this mixer is missing 2 B THE ULTIMATE MIXER EVER besides a phantom power support 4 HIGH-END SHURE BETA MICS. Need the SPILT-CUE 4 ALL of us out there whom use SHURE -or- M-Audio in-ears. Better hearing & if the venue u r playing @ has SHITTING monitors ... ? what is a DJ 2 do ?
Let me hear some FEEDBACK though LET us ALL let RANE KNOW that we LOVE your products that U make the BEST quality mixers, along with ALLEN & HEALTH though we want the BEST mixer from the BESt mixer company!
peace & blessings
sincerely,
DJ ROCK DEE
DJ ROCK DEE 4:42 PM - 3 November, 2007
HEY CLARK ... Check the PIONEER DJM600 4 the FULL understanding of the SPIL-CUE feature ... so when a DJ is wearing headphones -or- in-eras ... THE CUE (your set-up record is in the left ear) & THE MASTER RECORD (the one the crowd is listening to) ... so u want 2 U CAN MIX 2 SOURCES WITHIN YOUR HEADPHONES BEFORE THE CROWD DID 2 CONFIRM THE MIX/PITCH/SCRATCHS -whatever- R ON POINT ...
peace & blessings
sincerely,
DJ ROCK DEE