Multitrack Recording???

OpenOptics 6:35 AM - 15 June, 2006

So one of the main reasons I bought the 57 was because it was the supposed answer to the mixtape maker's dream. That is, being able to record PGM 1 & 2 separately and then edit the tracks post-recording. Now my question to you guys is, how do I go about doing that? I have the Pro Tools 002 controller setup and figured I would be able to record straight to that, but now it seems like that's not possible. Am I correct? If you guys could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it. As soon as I figure this out, I can get cracking on laying down my summer mix (which you guys will be sure to get a link to). Thanks in advance...much respect.

nobspangle 7:19 AM - 15 June, 2006

This currently isn't possible.
It is within the capabilities of the mixer, it just needs to be implemented.

Once it is done there are two ways I'd like to see it possible.

1. Recording through SSL, there would be another recording mode in SSL which would create two wav files instead of one, you could then dump these into your DAW and line them up.

2. Recording one output through the master and the other output through the flexFX send. This way you could record directly into your DAW through a soundcard.

There is a third option that nik has described where virtual busses would be created between SSL and the DAW.

OpenOptics 7:39 AM - 15 June, 2006

Damn, I hope they implement this soon. The way I was thinking about it originally is pretty much what you said in your second point: separately assigning PGM 1 and PGM 2 to Main, Booth, or Aux Out. Your first point seems cool, but it would probably take up a whole lot of your processing power (making it more likely for dropouts and glitches in your mix), and would kind of be a pain to line up in your DAW. For your third point, wouldn't a plugin for your DAW (similar to Rewire) be needed? Mods, is multitracking within the near future?

nik39 10:08 AM - 15 June, 2006

OO, check these suggestions, I havent posted them in the feature suggestions area yet, but I think I'll do that sooner or later. I would kindly ask you to add your thoughts. MAybe we can develop this idea further.

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2. Separate PGM1/2 output postfader

When implementing routing functionality you could also let the user choose to whether using pre or post fader output to FlexFX and Aux/Main/Booth, it would be possible to use the mixer as a mixtape recording device, like the Stanton-SA8 (it also had separate post(cross)fader outputs for both PGMs.

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3. Mixtape routing functions

TO further enhance the mixtape abilities I have some ideas, it has been said that it is planned that you can record a complete set including all fader movements and then either flatten it out and write it as one audio file, or export it to a DAW as a session, incl. unflattened audio and all fader movements, so that you can edit it afterwards in your DAW. This is a fantastic idea, but it has one big drawback - you have to record your set in SSL, export it, import it back into your DAW, that goes for each recording/take/edit which can take up lots of time.

My idea is to have some sort of virtual ASIO device which will deliver the audio from SSL and the mixer directly into the DAW. How would it work? I will go through an example how I would record a mixtape:
PGM1 -> ASIO In/Out 1
PGM2 -> ASIO In/Out 2
(Maybe if possible AUX -> ASIO In/Out 3)

(A)
Start SSL
Start DAW
Start recording in DAW from the ASIO inputs (audio provided by SSL on PGM1 and PGM2 (physical channels on the USB bus), in DAW: ASIO In1 from PGM1, ASIO In2 from PGM2 (virtual channels inside host PC))
Stop recording cause you screwed a mix, on PGM2
[channels/bandwidth used:
2 stereo chans control TMD from TTM -> SSL, 2 stereo audio chans back from SSL -> TTM, total 4 stereo streams]

(B)
Rewind back in DAW
Let just the last unscrewed track run from DAW that was the signal previously from PGM1
SSL receives audio on ASIO Out2 (which are fed from DAW), sent to the TTM to PGM2
Record in DAW as in (A)
Now you gotta tell SSL somehow to switch PGM2 from ASIO Out2 back to the virtual deck 2, that could be either done within SSL or a button on the TTM

Click here for diagram -> ssl-test.help.bootlegs.de

The big advantage is as described before you can interactively edit the mixer, w/o the hassle of exporting, re-importing etc.

el presidente 5:42 PM - 15 June, 2006

agree, that is a big reason i bought a ttm 57 sl

OpenOptics 7:28 PM - 15 June, 2006

Nik, you got it right on! That is a lot more on point than anything I could have said. Nice diagram too. Serato already has its hands in Pro Tools with Pitch n' Time, so I would think it wouldn't be too difficult to create a plugin to implement this. It shouldn't be anymore difficult than Rewire with Reason or Ableton.

OpenOptics 3:26 AM - 19 June, 2006

So mods, is this in the works???

Sam 1:12 AM - 27 June, 2006

It is in the works.

In the mean time, you can send PGM 1 out of the FlexFX to your sound card (this will be post fader), and select PGM 2 Post Fader as the record option from within Scratch LIVE to get the two separate stereo files for PGM 1 and 2 post fader.

nobspangle 7:43 AM - 27 June, 2006

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It is in the works.

In the mean time, you can send PGM 1 out of the FlexFX to your sound card (this will be post fader), and select PGM 2 Post Fader as the record option from within Scratch LIVE to get the two separate stereo files for PGM 1 and 2 post fader.

Will this work? You will have two different digital clocks, the soundcard and the TTM 57SL, I would expect the two files to drift out of time.

AKIEM 8:09 PM - 27 June, 2006

I would expect the same thing. Also "flavored" differently.
But maybe the drift would happen later in the recording rather then sooner. enough later that you would quit by then. test?

nik39 8:18 PM - 27 June, 2006

In the mean time I will hook up my SL1 to the TTM57 SL and record with the ASIO drivers (once they are finished and released) both PGMs seperately, assuming the offer the possibility of recording both PGMs post fader at the same time.

OpenOptics 10:58 AM - 29 June, 2006

Thanks for the response Sam. Do you know if there will be a plugin similar to Pitch n Time or what? I'm very interested to see how you guys approach this issue.

To Nik, I don't really understand what you are saying. Are you using your 57 on one computer and your SL1 on another computer?

nik39 1:23 PM - 29 June, 2006

OO, right now the idea would be to use the recording through the TTM57 on one computer and playback of the audio files via SSL on a 2nd laptop.

OpenOptics 8:46 PM - 29 June, 2006

Okay, so you're just using the 57 as a sound card then, right?

nik39 8:55 PM - 29 June, 2006

Yes. I would like to have all in one as posted above (virtual ASIO device, virtual MIDI etc...) but its simply not possible right now :( Also I would like to get rid of having another D/A/D conversion, but right now, there is no other way. Also Sam's work around includes one additonal D/A/D conversion one one PGM, while on the other one its not necessary. That might cause problems sound quality wise.

Wildstylus 3:14 AM - 6 February, 2007

Heh, yeah, I can't believe multitrack recording is impossible while using SL. I hope they hurry up and implement this coz my PCI soundcard is wack and the sound quality is very noticeably poorer if I sent the one channel to it via flex FX.

illkid 2:43 PM - 7 February, 2007

so is the serato team working on a solution to record 2 channels seperatly while using scratch live?

m0nster 3:31 PM - 7 February, 2007

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It is in the works.

illkid 6:20 PM - 7 February, 2007

^ sam posted that more than 6month ago!

whoami 3:07 PM - 11 February, 2007

i'm waiting too!

Res-Q 2:01 AM - 12 February, 2007

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i'm waiting too!

illkid 3:17 AM - 12 February, 2007

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i'm waiting too!

ABM 3:54 AM - 12 February, 2007

waiting...

treeo730 5:19 AM - 17 February, 2007

yawn.....

DJ Stuart (AR) 6:47 AM - 20 March, 2007

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OO, check these suggestions, I havent posted them in the feature suggestions area yet, but I think I'll do that sooner or later. I would kindly ask you to add your thoughts. MAybe we can develop this idea further.

Quote:

2. Separate PGM1/2 output postfader

When implementing routing functionality you could also let the user choose to whether using pre or post fader output to FlexFX and Aux/Main/Booth, it would be possible to use the mixer as a mixtape recording device, like the Stanton-SA8 (it also had separate post(cross)fader outputs for both PGMs.

----------------------------------------------------------

3. Mixtape routing functions

TO further enhance the mixtape abilities I have some ideas, it has been said that it is planned that you can record a complete set including all fader movements and then either flatten it out and write it as one audio file, or export it to a DAW as a session, incl. unflattened audio and all fader movements, so that you can edit it afterwards in your DAW. This is a fantastic idea, but it has one big drawback - you have to record your set in SSL, export it, import it back into your DAW, that goes for each recording/take/edit which can take up lots of time.

My idea is to have some sort of virtual ASIO device which will deliver the audio from SSL and the mixer directly into the DAW. How would it work? I will go through an example how I would record a mixtape:
PGM1 -> ASIO In/Out 1
PGM2 -> ASIO In/Out 2
(Maybe if possible AUX -> ASIO In/Out 3)

(A)
Start SSL
Start DAW
Start recording in DAW from the ASIO inputs (audio provided by SSL on PGM1 and PGM2 (physical channels on the USB bus), in DAW: ASIO In1 from PGM1, ASIO In2 from PGM2 (virtual channels inside host PC))
Stop recording cause you screwed a mix, on PGM2
[channels/bandwidth used:
2 stereo chans control TMD from TTM -> SSL, 2 stereo audio chans back from SSL -> TTM, total 4 stereo streams]

(B)
Rewind back in DAW
Let just the last unscrewed track run from DAW that was the signal previously from PGM1
SSL receives audio on ASIO Out2 (which are fed from DAW), sent to the TTM to PGM2
Record in DAW as in (A)
Now you gotta tell SSL somehow to switch PGM2 from ASIO Out2 back to the virtual deck 2, that could be either done within SSL or a button on the TTM

Click here for diagram -> ssl-test.help.bootlegs.de

The big advantage is as described before you can interactively edit the mixer, w/o the hassle of exporting, re-importing etc.

I think Niks idea goes hand i hand with the 57 working as a Sl-1. Good one.

OpenOptics 9:44 PM - 23 March, 2007

I'm glad someone revived this thread. Mods, is there any word on this being implemented soon?

ABM 2:51 PM - 16 May, 2007

bump. for the feature as described in 1 by nobspangle.

Quote:

This currently isn't possible.
It is within the capabilities of the mixer, it just needs to be implemented.

Once it is done there are two ways I'd like to see it possible.

1. Recording through SSL, there would be another recording mode in SSL which would create two wav files instead of one, you could then dump these into your DAW and line them up.

2. Recording one output through the master and the other output through the flexFX send. This way you could record directly into your DAW through a soundcard.

There is a third option that nik has described where virtual busses would be created between SSL and the DAW.

AKIEM 7:29 PM - 16 May, 2007

post fader

ABM 4:48 AM - 17 May, 2007

yes what AKIEM said - post fader. Please make my mixer the serato "mixtape DJ's dream". :-)

DJmikeymike 2:03 AM - 18 May, 2007

I think the Mackie D.4 pro can do this right now.

illkid 7:59 PM - 30 May, 2007

is it possible now with the asio drivers for the 57 ?

Awedamn 8:39 PM - 30 May, 2007

I was about to get ableton but if protools is teaming up with serato I should get protools instead, huh?

rhythmunderground 9:27 PM - 30 May, 2007

you should stick to ableton unless you really have a need for pro tools

DJ Cykophuk 3:20 PM - 1 June, 2007

This would make a nice option for a newb like me with a monster collection to import. If I can assign pgm1 & pgm2 to discreet stereo tracks in Cubase via an ASIO driver, I could then start blasting vinyl into my laptop two at a time and cut them out for the mixdown in cubase after the recording session. It would essetially cut my archiving time down by 30-50%.

yes...please.

Amos

nobspangle 3:25 PM - 1 June, 2007

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This would make a nice option for a newb like me with a monster collection to import. If I can assign pgm1 & pgm2 to discreet stereo tracks in Cubase via an ASIO driver, I could then start blasting vinyl into my laptop two at a time and cut them out for the mixdown in cubase after the recording session. It would essetially cut my archiving time down by 30-50%.

yes...please.

Amos

You can do this already you need to install the ASIO drivers that were released with 1.7.2

DJ Cykophuk 7:16 PM - 1 June, 2007

Nice. I'm picking up the mixer at MC Audio, tonight after work. This should be a fun...or at least interesting weekend. Bye bye TTM54, hello 57!

Amos

Wildstylus 2:06 AM - 2 June, 2007

Will we all be dead before we can run Serato and route post-fader pgm1 & pgm2 via USB to a multitrack?

Wildstylus 2:08 AM - 2 June, 2007

..........prays this feature will make 1.8.................

DJ Cykophuk 1:50 PM - 2 June, 2007

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You can do this already you need to install the ASIO drivers that were released with 1.7.2

just did the setup and sound check...very nice. prog 1 pre fader channels 1&2, prog 2 pre fader channels 3&4, both gave levels on separate stereo channels in cubase. thats double tough.

Next question...if I understand the situation, while cubase can record 24 bit, the 57 will only be sending 16bit? So I'll have to sacrifice bitrate for speed if I use the 57 vs. the lexicon...unless I set up my 54 and use a 4 channel lex. But the question is probably pointless, since my output will never exceed 16bit with the current mixer. Thinking of the future though. I wonder if I'll be re-archiving in 10 years when I buy my next mixer. OK, enough rambling.

Thanks for reading.

Amos

Awedamn 8:16 PM - 9 June, 2007

What about if you record 32bit, would it sound much better since the out point is 16bit?

Im trying to use ableton live lite 4 now and only my old soundcards are showing up.
How do I load the TTM57 driver into Ableton when SL is already working?

nik39 8:22 PM - 9 June, 2007

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How do I load the TTM57 driver into Ableton when SL is already working?

You can't. Either ASIO moder or SSL mode, not both cuncurrently.

Awedamn 8:23 PM - 9 June, 2007

You are able to record each turntable separatly and then edit the waveform later if you want, huh?

nik39 8:31 PM - 9 June, 2007

Not when using SSL. :-( This feature has been promised - we've been waiting for it for about 1 year.

Awedamn 8:46 PM - 9 June, 2007

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You can't. Either ASIO moder or SSL mode, not both cuncurrently.

The TTM57 isn't showing under Asio or Ssl. Im unable to see any sign of it registering with Ableton.

nik39 8:59 PM - 9 June, 2007

?

It is not showing up neither with the SSL software nor with Ableton?

You can not use both at the same time.

Ben_Binary 2:08 AM - 11 July, 2007

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Not when using SSL. :-( This feature has been promised - we've been waiting for it for about 1 year.

+

AFR33K1000 1:49 PM - 31 October, 2007

Resurrection bump

KMXE 10:58 PM - 31 October, 2007

i just got my 57SL a few days ago and I was looking for this in the manual .....

bump

OpenOptics 2:07 AM - 9 November, 2007

Bumping my own thread from almost a year and a half ago...damn!

Evil_banana 11:13 AM - 9 November, 2007

Also one of the important reason why I forked out an extra 800 Euros to get the 57. Guess what, no CoreAudio drivers. But they are working on it... which is what I was told 8 or 9 months ago. But I guess the new video-features and video-scratching are reeeeaaaally helping me to do multitrack recording... *cough*

Bump!

nik39 1:23 PM - 9 November, 2007

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Also one of the important reason why I forked out an extra 800 Euros to get the 57. Guess what, no CoreAudio drivers. But they are working on it... which is what I was told 8 or 9 months ago. But I guess the new video-features and video-scratching are reeeeaaaally helping me to do multitrack recording... *cough*

Bump!

They already have CoreAudio drivers :)

DJ Cykophuk 2:02 PM - 9 November, 2007

true...but how do we use them to record each program pre fader to a separate track at the same time? Have you sorted that out yet?

nik39 3:24 PM - 9 November, 2007

Hold on...

Res-Q 6:53 PM - 9 November, 2007

I'm holding on too ;)

Evil_banana 4:42 PM - 15 November, 2007

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true...but how do we use them to record each program pre fader to a separate track at the same time? Have you sorted that out yet?

This is what I'm waiting for too. doesn't even have to be with Serato, if some other prog can see the 2 inputs PREFADER than I'm a happy man. Oh, and the ability to use my TTM57 as a soundcard. I know iTunes is able to output to the TTM57, but Progs like Reason don't.

Nik36, CoreAudio? since when? is it in 1.8? Or is there something in the pipeline we don't know about, meaning "THEY have CoreAudio drivers" and not "I have CoreAudio drivers"
:o)

nik39 4:57 PM - 15 November, 2007

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Nik36, CoreAudio?

Evil_apple, the TTM57 has CoreAudio drivers, had since it came out initally. I have it, you have it... :)

Evil_banana 5:26 PM - 15 November, 2007

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Evil_apple

:oD LOL

Ok, you need to enlighten me. :o) Why am I not able to use the TTM57 as an output for Reason? And what about multitrack recording both channels prefader?

Or are you saying that the TTM57 has CoreAudio drivers, but they're not as expanded/elaborate as we would like them to be?

nik39 5:41 PM - 15 November, 2007

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:oD LOL

nik3*9* it is ;-)

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Why am I not able to use the TTM57 as an output for Reason?

I don't know, I am afraid :-(

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Or are you saying that the TTM57 has CoreAudio drivers, but they're not as expanded/elaborate as we would like them to be?

I'd say... we need an app which enables us to change the routing/sources correctly. But this has nothing to do with CoreAudio itself.

nobspangle 6:00 PM - 15 November, 2007

You can't use the TTM 57SL as a soundcard whilst SSL is running.

Evil_banana 6:30 PM - 15 November, 2007

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nik3*9* it is ;-)

Oops, sorry, a little overworked lately.

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I'd say... we need an app which enables us to change the routing/sources correctly. But this has nothing to do with CoreAudio itself.

that's exactly it... just thought this was part of CoreAudio. Sorry, I'm not a code-wiz. I know how to work a computer, but I have no clue about the underlying architectures :)

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You can't use the TTM 57SL as a soundcard whilst SSL is running.

Of course not, if I would be good enough to produce music on the fly while DJ'ing, then I probably wouldn't need a dayjob anymore. :o) Unless what I produce is cr*p of course. No I'm talking about using the 57 as a soundcard when NOT using SSL. iTunes is able to use the TTM57 as an output. But in Reason it doesn't show up. So I have to go from the headphone-jack of my laptop to the AUX-IN of my TTM (which doesn't sound all that great), or I have to connect my External Soundcard and reconnect my monitors to that or loop them to the AUX-IN of the TTM57, which introduces a lot of unnecessary cable-mess again.

AKIEM 7:54 PM - 15 November, 2007

just wanted to point people to this thread during this discussion

scratchlive.net

ABM 3:06 AM - 16 November, 2007

AKIEM - it took me one year to grok your design suggestion. somewhere my electrical engineering professors are crying in their rootbeer. nice ide bro. and mad respect on the original 57

rane hope 2008 is the year for multi-track. :)

AKIEM 5:09 AM - 16 November, 2007

thanks
I just hope "grok" has a good meaning!
:)

ABM 7:19 AM - 16 November, 2007

grok - Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "to understand intuitively or by empathy; to establish rapport with",

AKIEM 11:12 AM - 16 November, 2007

ok never heard that one. I will try to use it in a couple upcoming emails, see what happens

Stuart Ramdeen 7:25 PM - 16 November, 2007

I have a guide that I've written that shows how to multitrack record pre (or post) 1 & 2 on the Mac. Is this what you're after? For ripping two records at once, for example? I'm just waiting for some feedback before posting it en masse.

DJ Cykophuk 8:27 PM - 16 November, 2007

Yeah, thats what I'm after. Thats one less thing I need to use my PC for. Hurrah!

AKIEM 9:28 PM - 16 November, 2007

NO!
For multi tracking a mix!!!!

DJ Cykophuk 9:43 PM - 16 November, 2007

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NO!
For multi tracking a mix!!!!

That would be great too.

djmoneyd425 10:26 PM - 16 November, 2007

i simply record through a firebox...works great.

AKIEM 10:42 PM - 16 November, 2007

on 4 channels (2 stereo tracks) post fader??

Stuart Ramdeen 2:11 PM - 17 November, 2007

oh yeah, we definitely need the ability to multitrack whilst using SSL. Eventually...... For now, though, all we have is multitracking outside of SSL.

djcharles 12:36 PM - 19 November, 2007

So what does the TTM 57SL Record Utility 1.1 software actually do. I thought it meant we would finally have multitracking but then it says this:
"The application does not work in conjunction with the Serato Scratch LIVE Software"

I'm confused. does it mean you still need to have 2 mixers? on to mix that would be plugged in the 57 which would only be used as a soundcard? don't quite see the logic in that.

Stuart Ramdeen 1:09 PM - 19 November, 2007

ah, that's been released. In that case, please download and try to follow these instructions:

homepage.mac.com

Feedback is appreciated.

djcharles 1:37 PM - 19 November, 2007

Thanks Stuart. I'll try and post up feedback.
Anybody knows if it's possible to use the SL1 box plugged in the 57 with my laptop and then record on my desktop.
It's just disappointing to only be able to use this feature to record from regular vinyl and not use Serato with it.

Evil_banana 2:02 PM - 19 November, 2007

Exactly what I needed! I'll check it out in the weekend :) . I'll see if I can get that reason-output-issues solved.

Stuart Ramdeen 3:36 PM - 19 November, 2007

that feature is coming. In the meantime, you could use some elaborate method like recording channel 2 within SSL and feed channel 1 out of the flexfx loop, enable flexfx for channel 1 and record that on your other computer. I don't need this functionality myself, but I'm sure this has come up in the past, have you searched the archives for workarounds?

Evil_banana 10:37 AM - 3 December, 2007

(Update on the TTM57 as soundcard for Reason thing... finally got to spend some time again producing sounds. After rebooting the laptop TTM57 Line 1 and 2 showed up in the output device list... so I'm able to use my TTM57 as a soundcard. Weird, but oh well, it works now :oP )

aztechnician 7:16 AM - 7 December, 2007

I am so confused with what has been said in this thread!

are we saying that even though the TTM57 is connected to the PC via USB it is not possible to run SSL and record both turns into seperate tracks either within SSL itself or even better into any DAW of your choice?

It sounds like the new record utility patch only allows for this to occur when using your TTM57 as a normal(real) vinyl mixer with SSL turned off? I swear I heard this has 4 ASIO channel and I would have assumed that running SSL control records to play MP3/WAV via SSL or normal vinyl wouldnt really matter it would still show as input in ableton?

My main question is when TTM57 operates as a soundcard can it also function as the SSL app? so the source is MP3/WAV on the decks and re-routed via ASIO into ableton - SEPERATELY?

Im in a dark place of uncertainty. Who has a flashlight?

nobspangle 8:34 AM - 7 December, 2007

When you are using SSL the TTM 57SL stops being a soundcard, as soon as you close SSL it goes back to being a soundcard.

Currently the 57 has two stereo inputs and two stereo outputs. When in SSL mode you have one input for each track you are playing, one output for recording and one output used for vinyl control.
When you're in soundcard mode you have two outputs each of which can be set to channel 1/2 pre/post fader or main mix, and two inputs which feed into D1 and D2 on the mixer.

treeo730 9:11 PM - 19 December, 2007

this got moved to page 2 guys-----bump

Deejay Z 6:22 PM - 29 February, 2008

So this method only works on real CDS/Vinyl? Not with SSL correct??

Stuart Ramdeen 8:22 PM - 29 February, 2008

at the moment, yes.
I have a guide, above, if you want to do this.

Deejay Z 2:22 AM - 1 March, 2008

Ya i read through the guide....thanks bro

djcharles 3:37 AM - 14 March, 2008

bump

treeo730 3:06 AM - 8 April, 2008

j-lo bump

Ikhan 8:41 PM - 13 April, 2008

What if I use another laptop to record onto using a multi track software, obviously i can record onto it but the question is will the TTM 57 allow me to Record onto track 2 while playback of the previously recorded track?

DJ Yaz 8:45 PM - 14 April, 2008

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So one of the main reasons I bought the 57 was because it was the supposed answer to the mixtape maker's dream. That is, being able to record PGM 1 & 2 separately and then edit the tracks post-recording. Now my question to you guys is, how do I go about doing that? I have the Pro Tools 002 controller setup and figured I would be able to record straight to that, but now it seems like that's not possible. Am I correct? If you guys could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it. As soon as I figure this out, I can get cracking on laying down my summer mix (which you guys will be sure to get a link to). Thanks in advance...much respect.

Bro, here is how you do it...

Use any mixer and an SSL Box and a soundcard with multiple inputs.

Run your tables input into the SSL box. Then use rca Y style (1 male to 2 female) splitters to connect to the line output of channel 1 and 2 of the SSL box.

Then connect 2 complete sets of RCA cables to the Y style connectors. Now you should have two outputs from channel 1 and two from channel 2 both with Left and Right channels.

Now send One of your ch. 1 RCA's to your mixer and one to your soundcard. Do the same for channel 2.

Now run the master output from you mixer to your soundcard.

and.... BAM! Without waiting for any new software you can record your channel 1 raw, channel 2 raw and your mix into the soundcard and program of your choice.

Ps. This works best if the recording computer is seperate than the ssl machine but that's not required.

Enjoy your new mixtape factory! :)

Yaz

nik39 9:19 PM - 14 April, 2008

Your solution does not work post fader, Yaz.

Stuart Ramdeen 9:45 PM - 14 April, 2008

wow!!! It's that easy????

DJ Yaz 11:21 PM - 14 April, 2008

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Your solution does not work post fader, Yaz.

I know, it's not the cure for cancer either... but it gets the job done if you goal is to cut live mixtapes and be able to go back and clean up any imperfections in
Ableton or some similar program.

Missed ya Nik, hope all is well.

Cheers! :)

DJ Yaz 11:22 PM - 14 April, 2008

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wow!!! It's that easy????

I wouldn't go so far as to call it easy, but no it's not rocket science for sure.

nik39 12:33 AM - 15 April, 2008

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I know, it's not the cure for cancer either... but it gets the job done if you goal is to cut live mixtapes and be able to go back and clean up any imperfections in
Ableton or some similar program.

How about using the TTM57 and a SL1 box? You can record post fader then =)

DJ Yaz 8:58 PM - 15 April, 2008

Yeah I though about that, but you would need to trick the computer into hosting both the SL box and the 57 sound at the same time? Feel me? Otherwise you would need two computers.

That would be sick though if Serato released a new version that would allow you to have your SSL hooked up to a box and a 57 and provide the same audio to both.

It would be smart for them too because you would have a bunch of DJ's with a 57 and an SSL box as I do now. More money for them :)

I'll post it in the suggestions.

nik39 9:15 PM - 15 April, 2008

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Yeah I though about that, but you would need to trick the computer into hosting both the SL box and the 57 sound at the same time?

That's actually how I recorded my last mixtape, 2channels, post fader at the same time.

One computer was running SSL+SL1, the other ran Cubase+TTM57SL.

nobspangle 9:48 PM - 15 April, 2008

What happens if you load SSL with the SL 1 hooked up then attach the 57?

DJ LTIZZZLE 11:06 AM - 6 May, 2008

I was just messing around today in the lab. I had my 57 hooked up to my Alienware lappy. Went into the control panel and changed the output sound to Line 1 and the record/mic to Line 2.

Clicked on Cool edit 2.1. I hit had to turn the nob from D1 A1 and on the other nob from D2 to A3or 4 can't remeber. I two cds in the Cdj. Click record on track 1 and let her rip. I then highlighted track 2 and and mixed in behind where i left off on track one and it was easy. Went to track 3 did some voice overs and it came out pretty good.

deepdjdanny 12:58 PM - 18 May, 2008

round & round the garden... :)

treeo730 12:00 AM - 24 May, 2008

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So one of the main reasons I bought the 57 was because it was the supposed answer to the mixtape maker's dream. That is, being able to record PGM 1 & 2 separately and then edit the tracks post-recording. Now my question to you guys is, how do I go about doing that? I have the Pro Tools 002 controller setup and figured I would be able to record straight to that, but now it seems like that's not possible. Am I correct? If you guys could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it. As soon as I figure this out, I can get cracking on laying down my summer mix (which you guys will be sure to get a link to). Thanks in advance...much respect.

I just want to know why can't we still do this?

MrGoodie2shoes 4:10 AM - 9 June, 2008

From Sam on 6/26/06

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It is in the works.

B.S.

OpenOptics 4:51 AM - 14 June, 2008

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From Sam on 6/26/06

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It is in the works.

B.S.

Man, that's my birthday! I couldn't ask for a better gift! Come on Sam!

treeo730 7:48 PM - 17 June, 2008

Hey we missed the 2 as in TWO year anniversary of this thread.

Billy18bm 2:53 AM - 24 June, 2008

couldnt you technically do multitrack with an SL1..... i was just thinking about it..... it would be relatively easy....

this should be really easy to do with a 57 i mean come on at least let us know wats going on weve all shelled out 1500 for the darn thing.....

DJ LTIZZZLE 9:55 AM - 24 June, 2008

bump

nik39 8:12 PM - 14 January, 2010

Hooooray. Ableton+Serato+Rane made this happen!

nik39 8:35 PM - 14 January, 2010

www.serato.com <- click

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