Serato Video General Discussion

Talk about Serato Video and Video-SL.

Asking for more $$$ & Getting it!!

DJ Tecoy 5:59 PM - 23 June, 2009
Here is my situation. Just recently two other DJ's & I are mixing video at our club. I suggested that all of us get paid more for doing video. We are currently getting paid the same to mix audio vs video. Obviously we as DJ's pay more for the videos. But a concern was brought up about the bottom feeder DJ who comes in & is hired to do the same thing for half the amount we get to mix audio & he/she would mix video. Granted the club is not setup for video mixing. Its house system consist of PCDJ & a DAC1 controller with a DENON 9000 that skips when the bass starts to pump. Just about every DJ needs to bring his or her own equipment, CDJ's, & mixer to do any decent style of performance.

Don't see the need to invest in something (video) that there is not or very little return. But then again the lights need to be replaced in the club as well as the amps. They overheat in the summer & there goes the bass in boom boom pow!

What would some of you do in this situation?
DJCheLu 6:25 PM - 23 June, 2009
It seems to me that if the club owner is not willing to spend money to get better equipment then he doesnt care about video and doesnt care about what the dj sounds like. Most owners dont give a dam what the music sounds like they just want bottom line profit. In this case i wouldnt ask for more money because you will probably force the owner to try out the budget djs in fear of you guys leaving. Just find another higher paying club and keep this one for the days you have nothing or switch the days or something. My two cents :)
DJ Pimp 7:26 PM - 23 June, 2009
Promote yourselves. Make mix CD's, DVD's, give them away or just use your imagination.
That's the only way.
If you depend on one club, your ass is going down. Spread around. Be the best!
djchrischip 10:57 PM - 23 June, 2009
ok Tecoy just do what i did, I STOPPED doing video, for my former residency... tried it once said do u like it compared to audio owner was like ya its dope...
I said double my pay,
he said its not in my budget
N i said well if its all the same to u at my current pay I can only provide audio service.
He said come on
I said i am sorry
He said I guess I understand videos are expensive
I said no shit
He said ok.

In the mean time I have started to really perfect my craft as well as have now started to perfect my mobile, and club video libraries---> 9000 videos and counting lol
CMS 4:01 AM - 24 June, 2009
I'm afraid I may be doing the same thing here. I'm about to jump into Video and I'm concerned the owners of current place I have residency, (6 years), at will not be willing to pay more.
djbigmark 11:04 PM - 24 June, 2009
Bar owners dont care much about video and they do not want to spend anymore for it than audio. They pay you low to begin with and only care about customers drinking, the music is secondary. Video is nice but its not all that, at least not yet.
I work at a bar that packs in 150 customers on a fri night and Sat, the place is open 7 days a week, the pay is low and I have to bring equipment. The general attitude is DJ'S are a dime a dozen. They have a projector but dont care jack shit about video, or sound just make customers dacne and drink thats it.
CMS 11:08 PM - 24 June, 2009
@ djbigmar

Very true. Have the sound cutout on a busy night though and watch the sales die. At least the manager of the place I'm at seems to get it. Owners, not so much.
djbigmark 11:36 PM - 24 June, 2009
The way I See It You Have A Choice:

1. Do video and set yourself apart from the other DJ's in your area. Maybe a promoter will see your show and hire you and then you can get what you want. A customer from the venue may be interested in your services because of your video Mixing.

2. You have to educate the bar owners/ promoters/ customers on how and why they need this video stuff...everything is so new most people have no clue that you can mix music videos like music, so of course nobody cares now. You have to show and prove.

3. Give to them and they will come knocking...Think about this, you do video everytime your there and they will get used to it, then when your not there I bet the customers will inqure with the manager Yo what up "no video tonight". MAKE YOURSELF VALUABLE
CMS 11:45 PM - 24 June, 2009
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The way I See It You Have A Choice:

1. Do video and set yourself apart from the other DJ's in your area. Maybe a promoter will see your show and hire you and then you can get what you want. A customer from the venue may be interested in your services because of your video Mixing.

2. You have to educate the bar owners/ promoters/ customers on how and why they need this video stuff...everything is so new most people have no clue that you can mix music videos like music, so of course nobody cares now. You have to show and prove.

3. Give to them and they will come knocking...Think about this, you do video everytime your there and they will get used to it, then when your not there I bet the customers will inqure with the manager Yo what up "no video tonight". MAKE YOURSELF VALUABLE


I totally agree with that. You need to set yourself apart from others, find a niche. Not many people in my area are doing video yet so I want to get on the cutting edge of it here.
djroue 9:27 PM - 5 July, 2009
I usually start at $200 an hour for video gigs, then negotiate from there.
DVDjHardy 3:05 AM - 6 July, 2009
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I usually start at $200 an hour for video gigs, then negotiate from there.


well done, most people are too scared to ask for what they're worth.

here's my 2 cents:

if you're gonna do a weekly video gig, try to negotiate it as a 1 to 2-hr show at some point during the night. you can sell the owners on video increasing their bar sales early in the night, or keeping people's attention later in the night. but, if you start doing video sets 5 hours a night, at the same venue every week - you're gonna bore yourself and your audience pretty soon.

imo, video is supposed to enhance the overall show. if you're playing the same visuals to the same ol' top 40 songs every week, you're gonna lose the "wow" factor that should be present when you do a video set.

dj tecoy, if he's not paying you more...what are you gaining from putting in the extra time and resources? its nice that you get to do what you love in front of a crowd, but if the owner is ever going to pay you for this, you've convinced them of what its capable of. if they say no, just say you can continue to do audio at the price you agreed on...