I didn't think that was working yet. But if it works for you, that's cool. I don't use CDJ's so I can't really test it.

Did it work with previous versions and/or the SL1?

I only tested it with 1.6.1 PB2 with the 57, so I'm not sure if it worked with previous versions. It still technically should not work because it is a control signal it is manipulating and not actual audio. Maybe someone from RANE can answer this, because I can't come up with any reason why it should work.

What was your usb buffer set at?.

I ask this because maybe by having it at a low enough setting, your computer was able to read the digital packets that were being added by the cdj's audio manipulation and also being that you are using the ttm-57 your computer's cpu isn't in full demand so you were able to use the master tempo.

Just a thought. PEACE.

I'll check when I head back down to the club, but I lowered it to around 6 I think.

yo...i started with SSL 1.3...then had 1.4...now im using 1.5 and i have been able to use it for all versions...i am using CDI 500 cd players with a denon mixer...my master tempo has always worked like a champ...im not even sure how others do their adjustments...to me, using the mouse and trying to drag that little bar is way to much trouble...ive even found that when using absolute mode some of my cd player effects work too...

As I contemplate what's going on I wonder if maybe having a lot of ram and a low enough buffer setting can make the master tempo possible to use.

Also, if you use a high bit rate for mp3's, the more processing power needed to decode it increases whereas files like aiff and wav doesn't and maybe this can be another reason why master tempo works. PEACE.

Sam or James posted a while back that they were implementing the ability to leave it turned on but it would only work with the Pioneer Master Tempo, not any of the Denons or other players. Apparently it doesn't work much more than 1% or 2%.

i got american audio cdi 500's and it works...i got 512 mb of ram and my buffer setting is at 12....i got 4 settings on my cd player...4%, 8%, 16%, 100%....they all work great...im using a dell dimension 4700...2 years old so its not the top of the line computer...nor are my decks...yet it works perfectly...now im really curious why other peoples dont work???

...how are other people adjusting tempo??? it is hard to drag that little slider up and down with a mouse and get it just right...

Being that dubsack is stating that his buffer setting is at 12, I'm convinced that it has somehting to do with the buffer settings and cpu power.

This makes me wonder will a computer like the macbook pro or a 64 bit computer can handle the master tempo at a lower buffer setting?.

Thanks dubsack for stating more info about this. PEACE.

Sounds really cool :)

Now that I've read dubsack's comments more thoroughly, I think we are talking about two different things.

What djholla and I are talking about is being able to lower the tempo of the song without effecting the way it sounds whether it is fast or slow. We aren't talking about just the pitch control that moves the song fast or slow.

I still think the master tempo has something to do about buffer settings and cpu power. PEACE.

Back again!

I also just realized that 1.6.1 PB2 is being used which also leads me to believe that maybe because versions 1.5 and up are written for the new, fast macbooks that somehow it is making the software more efficient at deciphering songs that have been processed prior to going into serato such as master tempo. PEACE.

yo lotty...more on mine....if i choose say 16% and slide it all the way down...it slows the track down a lot...Dj Screw style...or i could slide up and speed it up...the pitch changes with the tempo...

...i don't believe my cd player will change the tempo without changing the pitch also...

Okay, here's my 2 cents from further testing. I can use a lower buffer setting or a higher one (well, I only tested at all the way left and up to 10). On the screen, the bpm's I have entered and pitch displayed in the center of the rotating platter act strangely - as I would expect since master tempo is not supported. The BPM and pitch flash like there is a glitch and do not adjust accordingly while tempo is increased or slowed, BUT the master tempo does work. This seems more of a glitch however and I'm not sure I trust it while at a gig because having the on screen display glitching and flashing like that does not seem like it would contribute to a stable system. And yes, lotty and I are talking about Master Tempo in which tempo can be adjusted and the key remains the same - NOT simply adjusting pitch - this will always work as per the whole idea behind Scratch Live, but key will slow or speed up like any regular turntable. I'm still confused though as to how this should work, and in response to AGIPRODJ, it will work all the way up to +/-16!!! How the CDJ's are interacting with Serato and interpretting the control signal as audio in relation to master tempo is beyond me, but it is in fact working, at least for some...

doesn't work for me. *sigh*

This is very confusing since the CD player is not playing any audio ... SSL is ... could there be a hidden cookie in SSL ??

I will try this with the +/-16 on the 1210M5G and compare the sound in relation to speed against normal records to see if SSL is actually doing this trick.

so it works then?

I just tried with CDJ-800MK2's and it's a no go.

Does not work.

I tried every buffer setting I had and all the same result...skipping/jumping.

so it doesn't work then

why does your bpm and pitch flash? i never knew such a feature in ssl existed. can a stuttering of control signal even cause the bpm/pitch to flash?

i'd like to see a vid of all of this.

I'll shoot a clip tonight before I go on and post it when I get back. I'm talking about the rotating platter on the screen. If you have bpm's entered for your tracks, it will read the bpm in small font close to the center of the virtual deck on the right, then on the left is the pitch, i.e. +2% etc, and the bpm will change accordingly when you speed up the tempo or slow it down. When you enable master tempo though, the pitch and bpms want to stay at their default, i.e. pitch 0.0% and bpm 99 for example. Sliding up or down the pitch then does not display correctly and flashes back to the default. BUT, the sound does respond correctly with relation to tempo and key. Tempo increases or decreases, key stays the same.

It is doing that because it is reading the variations/irregularities in the time code. With the introduction of "MT" you are changing the code so it is not read at a constant; instead it reads its erratic behavior which results in the BPM staying at the default display.

It is not "flashing," per say, but instead, constantly changing the +/- % display. The BPM will stay constant/unchanged when you move the pitch slider +/-.

At least this is what it is doing for me.

Here's something weird for you guys - just finished my set and tried enabling master tempo - now it doesn't work at all; acts as if the button is not pushed - does not affect the audio in any way (almost like tempo reset/quartz lock. Now this is frickin' starting to trip me out?!?!?!? I've been able to duplicate this repeatedly until tonight!

ok :)

i guess i jinxed you. sorry.

Got it to work for Paul Revere when messing around tonight. Once I stopped it, wouldn't do it again. You bastard skinnyguy.

i'm not a skinnyguy. sorry, thanks

lol.

LOL. haha

:)