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Please Help, 57 will not work????

DJ Sparky Killabrew 4:04 AM - 10 June, 2006
Just got my 57 and have 2 turntables hooked up. One is connnected to Line 1 the other to Line 3 with the switches set to phono. When I play the vinyl I get the control signal as output. The scope reading is consistent with the Phono into Line Input Problem shown on page 36 of the manual Any and all help is appreciated.
DJ Sparky Killabrew 5:06 AM - 10 June, 2006
Disregard, I figured it out. Peace.
djholla 4:40 AM - 11 June, 2006
I'm having the same problem - how'd you figure it out?
deejayplatinum 11:57 PM - 11 June, 2006
I had the same problem. Here is how I set mine up and it works fine now. First, make sure all of your jumper switches are set to line (not phono). The jumpers are only set to phono if you are using the mixer with turntables without serato or you wanted to add a a third turntable that was not going to run through Serato. The manual makes it kind of confusing. Second-set your control signal in the hardware setup menu to be on one on the left and two on the right. Now you should be able to play serato records with your knobs at the top set to D1 on the left and D2 on the right. If you want to play a regular record change it to A1 on the left and A3 on the right. Hope this helps.
nobspangle 7:23 AM - 12 June, 2006
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First, make sure all of your jumper switches are set to line (not phono). The jumpers are only set to phono if you are using the mixer with turntables without serato or you wanted to add a a third turntable that was not going to run through Serato.

This isn't completely true, you should set the switches to phono for any channels where you are connecting a turntable, even if you are using it to control SSL.
deejayplatinum 12:56 PM - 12 June, 2006
I spoke to two people at Rane including Mike May and this is what I was told, bottom line this is the ONLY way that either of my 57's will work. To be honest it does not make sense to me either, but again, neither of mine will work any other way. I had to put my threshold signal all the way to the left to get a 100 percent reading but they told me they are addressing this in a later update.
deejayplatinum 1:06 PM - 12 June, 2006
Just to follow up, I am calling Rane again later today to double check a couple of things becasue honestly even they seemed a little confused but I was told to put ALL of my jumper settings to line even though I am using 1200's and it has worked every since. I have played two live gigs with it and have had no problems. The only thing is like I mentioned before that I have to push my threshold settings all the way to the left which makes me uncomfortable but it has been working. Don't want to confuse anybody, just trying to help as it seems a few people are having the same problem I was.
Niro 3:48 PM - 12 June, 2006
That's odd, mine are set to Phono, Line, Phono, Line and the tables are plugged into the Phonos. Can't see why you would would plug into the line source. I believe the A Phono input is louder, so you could have your threshold further to the right.

S
Rane, Support
Shaun W 5:40 PM - 12 June, 2006
I think we have a few different things going on here.

Taken from the manual:
Quote:
Connecting the Mixer

Leave the power unplugged until everything else is connected!

PGM Inputs 1-4 and Aux Input

The TTM 57SL has two stereo analog inputs for PGM 1 and two stereo analog inputs for PGM 2.

Any of these analog inputs may be set for Line Input or Phono Input using the LINE / PHONO switches located on the rear panel. Up is LINE and down is PHONO. Unused inputs are best set to LINE.

Attach your turntable’s ground wires to the Phono Ground connectors. Two stereo digital inputs from the USB connection, Digital 1 and Digital 2, are also available for PGM 1 and PGM 2.

It is possible to select any combination of digital and analog signals. Any of the four analog inputs may be used for Scratch LIVE vinyl emulation control.

Input 1 or Input 2 may be selected for Scratch LIVE Deck 1 control.

Input 3 or Input 4 may be selected for Scratch LIVE Deck 2 control. Control input sources are selected using the Scratch LIVE software.

As will be discussed later in Program Controls, if a source has been selected for vinyl emulation control by the Scratch LIVE software, the number is back-lit as a reminder that the source is selected for control.

The Aux input has an independent Level control as described on page Manual-6.


Selecting the input source:

Quote:
Program Controls
INPUT
Choose one of four INPUT
sources for each Program.
PGM 1 selects:
• Analog-1 (A1)
• Analog-2 (A2)
• Digital-l (D1)
• Digital-2. (D2)
PGM 2 selects:
• Analog-3 (A3)
• Analog-4 (A4)
• Digital-l (D1)
• Digital-2. (D2)
The Analog Inputs come
from your turntables or CD
players. The Digital Inputs
come from the Scratch LIVE
software “Decks” in your
laptop.
If the number for A1 or A2 is illuminated,
the Input has been selected by Scratch LIVE
software as the vinyl emulation input for Deck
One. If the number for A3 or A4 is illuminated,
the Input has been selected by Scratch LIVE as
the vinyl emulation input for Deck Two. The
backlit number is a reminder that this source may
be a control signal and not audio. You may select
a control input and use it as a normal analog input at any time
without de-selecting it for control in Scratch LIVE, but remember
that if you are playing a control record or CD, you will hear the
control signal.


Selecting control signal input source from the hardware panel:
Quote:
Hardware panel setup
This area contains settings dedicated to the TTM 57SL.
Control source
Any of the four inputs on the TTM 57SL can be set to control
Scratch LIVE. Use these two knobs to choose the inputs that are
used to control Scratch LIVE.



If you need further assistance, please feel free to contact Zach or myself at Rane.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 5:50 PM - 12 June, 2006
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The only thing is like I mentioned before that I have to push my threshold settings all the way to the left which makes me uncomfortable but it has been working
Try calibrating the noise threshold manually. What threshold setting do you get?
deejayplatinum 2:23 AM - 13 June, 2006
Ok, to follow up I called Rane today and got it straightened out. I apologize if I confused anybody by telling them to put their jumper switches to line even if they are using turntables. I was told this by somebody at Rane on Friday, I can't remember who. Maybe they misunderstood and thought I was using cdjs. Here is why it was working though. Maybe because the jumpers are upside down (I dont know why) I actually placed all of the jumpers to phono, not line so it was working. I did the same thing on both of mine so I was pretty confident I had the problem fixed. When I called today and looked down I realized my mistake. I still don't know why I had problems the first time because this is the way I had initially set it up, and still a little confused at the threshold settings having to be pushed all the way to the left, but now everything seems to be working fine. Like I had said before it didn't make sense to me at the time. So again sorry if I confused anyone, was just trying to help as it seemed some people were having the same problem.
Niro 5:07 AM - 13 June, 2006
deejayplatinum, what type of needles are you using? If the output on them are low, than the more you have to move your threshold to the left. The louder than you can keep them towards the right. The only needle I think you can actually have it all the ways to the right and still have it read the signal is the ort, QBerts. Actually one of my m44-7 stylus is a little louder than the others and can read, but that's about it.

S
nobspangle 8:08 AM - 13 June, 2006
The DIP switches should be line at the top, phono at the bottom.

For the threshold, try the alternative method of calibrating. A lower threshold (more to the left) is a good thing, the ideal situation would be threshold all the way to the left.
Now that you have your inputs set to phono, I doubt that you will be able to get your threshold this far over.
Jay Z 8:34 AM - 13 June, 2006
How do you resolve this issue?

My waveform is like the "Phono into Line Input" on page 36. All dip switches are set to phono (down). TTs input into 1, 3 and 1, 3 are set as the vinyl emulation controls.