I get nothing but love...

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yea, i had one. it was a club manager, he said "i'm just not that impressed with video,so we're not doing it."
me - "you have no clue!! do you?"

a few months later i am doing video, he's no longer the manager and the club is hitting record sales.

One of the main reasons a club fails is due to a clueless manager.

Mills hit it on the head! club owners are harder to grasp the importance of video in a club. in another post i stated how i had to set up a temp screen and projector just to prove my point with a big screen. since i have been doing video in my sat gig there numbers have gone up and up. the first week we did it i used there 40" lcd and EVERYONES eyes were GLUED to the screen. men, women, wall flowers, freaks on the dance floor you name it they watched it. plus when i have my scrolling banner on the bottom of the screen with book me here, text requests, take care of bartenders, etc. it gets into your head wether you realize it or not. my logo it stays on the top corner of the screen ALL NIGHT LONG! marketing and branding at its best. they stair at the screen for hours so a week or two later when they see my logo somewhere they think of yeah the DJ rocking videos.

i too kept putting it off and putting it off but then a new club i was about to start had 70 screens and wanted some video clips. so i maned up and got into video and all i can say is, why did i wait this long! i have been dj'ing for 14 years and do not have a "day job" video has def made me excited again about my profession. i can mix with my eyes and ears closed so now i can focus on the visual side fo the party.

I guess I should have mentioned, its usually from NON video djs.
(matter o fact, in that whole VDJ 6 thread there was a bunch of guys bashing video)

every club owner Ive encountered loves the idea, but unless I really jumped through som hoops, the rooms arent really set up for video.


clueless managers are really the bane of my existence.
Synyster, are you using mix emergency for those effects?
I cant find anything that'll run on PC that'll do that shit

when faced with another dj who is naggin about video, or anything else for that matter, i just ask, "if you're so great, why aren't you working somewhere tonight?"

Ya man I feel you on that..... I was VJ/djing a this club in NYC on wednesday the party was crazy. The club had 4 - DL.2 Digital Light. If you don't know what a DL.2 Digital Light is it's a $35,000 projector that can send video any were in a club 360 degrees, they are crazy and made by High End Systems. Anyway the manager was like "We never used them lights befor like this, we only use them for logos." In my mind I was like what a waste of money! The video system they had was over $150,000. When I was talking to him about doing video in the place he was like it would kill the vibbe in the room. O ya they also play movies on the system when there is only a dj there. That was the sicks video system I seen in New York City. I'll put up some pic and video if you want to see it... But it was wack that they did not even want to try it out.

same thing happened at webster hall. they had a video dj in the big room with a HUGE screen behind the dj. after a month they stopped the video and hired a regular dj. imo webster hall is a perfect place for video but i guess they think not.

well, if the regular dj was better than the vj...i can understand that.
it can't JUST look cool. it should sound good too.

RIGHT..?

a while ago I started a thread, "how much do your vj sets mirror your audio sets"

I started that becuase I felt like maybe I was missing a "video" element to my video sets.
musically I do the same trickery that I might do with music, becuase like said, thats REALLY the big push, if the video skips, or for whatever reason goes off the dancefloor wont react, but if the beats are hot, and your mixes are tight the floor will respond accordingly...
So, here I was wondering what visual element do I need to perfect?
I swap through transitions, pop in effects when they look good.
but like every other night Ive done for the past 15 years Im putting stock in the music...

this is what I think NON video guys are speculating.
that we threw mixing out the window and are just throwing videos at the crowd.
but here in this city, its mostly ignorance. (Boston)
the videos that are done here are almost always off this abortion of a program called DJPOWER. which for whatever reason is installed in every room in the city.
pre-loaded with 200gb of 15mb videos that look & sound like ass.
So, no one here has really seen a well programmed and quality video set.
even owners & managers.
theres now about 20 rooms in the city that have 30+ LCDs all over..
whats on em?
Sportscenter, the News, random sports games...
I say, ya know you guys might wanna try a video night with all these screens...

I usually get the "tap dance"
errr...welll.... we have promoters who bring in DJ sass-a-frass to play the same beats
every week, bla bla bla....
(yes, I know its my fault for not putting together a dvd for these people yet
to show em...I dont exepct to walk in and say "vj" and places to re-arrange their nights)

but, I digest...

Exactly.

I feel you 100%, that's the job of a DJ.

Fuck that, shit, sometimes I turn down the audio and it forces everyone to watch the screen, since they got nothing better to do. You probably think this is Mad Idea.

Niros

lol, Sweet Caroline.... Da da daaaaaaaaaa

^^^
u got that vid?

hook a brother up with some Neil video love!

I got 2 versions, one was a live version from like 2003 or something, and the other is a clay animation version lol...both qualitys are high medium to lower high, no blockin just a lil blurry....blehh

yeah, i figured I'd have to make an edit with live footage..... still looking for some original '69 footage!

Yeah, what DUB said.

I started at a club where there was no video at all. The main Dj here used to make fun of me for doing video normal reasons No one even notices blah blah blah. Well over time the owner said he wanted to start doing video all the time and now i have his job and he still doesn't do video. I think video is just another part of the experience. It doesn't take away from the music it adds to it. There are alot of older Djs in my city (peoria, IL) that still come in and hate on it 1. bc i'm 22 and booked 5 days a week 2. bc they can't do it. I think its funny when i'm spinnin and i see them at the bar watching the video lol.

I feel you DJ Blee... I know how that is man!!! HATTERS looking at you like you did something wrong... fuck them!

like eloy said...

mad HATTERS, fk them!!!




*S*

I've heard, "It'll take away from the dance floor."

last time I checked, clubs made most of their money from people that are drinking at the bar who obviously aren't dancing at that particular time.

anyways, that's just one story of mine

+1

The only haters I run into are djs who aren't doing video...yet. Everyone else is in there like swimwear.

Yeah I have had a few people hate until they saw me playing the same tracks they play with a dope exclusive edit...Not all video DJ's are created equal though. I have seen quite a few very whack video guys with crap looking files, not mixing, and playing with a bs program pushing buttons on some whack MIDI device.

The allure of watching someone do video on turntables is 'top notch'. How can anyone hate...

+1 +1 +1 just because you can "do " video doesnt mean you should......learn the fundamentals of djing first.
I had a couple haters talk shit about video but once they came out and seen it it was nothin but love lol

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The most common comment I get from the video hater is that people will just stand around and stare at the screens. I always reply that if people are standing around looking at the screens, then you're doing it wrong.

you know is not truth about ppl looking at the screen, in fact the first time you so a video show most of people will look at the screen for the first hour or so then is all good.

If you are doing a club set - I agree. IT would be not so easy (unless you have everything pre-planned) to make quick transition, juggles etc *and* taking care about the visual aspect. For me it would take the fun out if my whole set was pre-planned.


Yes, The audio should *always* come first.

Haha :)

"Let's line up all the girls on one side, and dudes on the other... just like high school... hahaha"

josh i use CUE for video and it has all the effects i listed built in. i know you can use mixemergency with mac but i haven't heard or know of anything or any other plugins to use to get those effects on pc. i could def be wrong.

+1 - Am with you on this one. Its a nouvel ideal in London but video DJing (serato style) is takin it by storm

thats something I dont think everyone understands yet outside of the DJ realm.
aside from the Pioneer, which is usually way too expensive for most mid sized venues... they have really not seen a CV controlled video set...and if they have, chances are it wasnt all to impressive.

Its always the DJs who are too shitty, too cheap or too retarded to understand its value who hate on video DJing.

i def find its the ones with no $$$ talking shit. just like when final scratch came out and i heard the whole "your cheating, can't rely on a computer, its gonna freeze blah blah blah. why not just be truthful and say "its hot but i don't have $500 for the software, $1000 for a laptop etc" i'll respect you more. i too took a while to go to video but since i have i haven't done a non video night in the clubs.

How about the guy that requests all the videos with skits in them:

Outkast (Ms Jackson)
Jay-Z - Just Wanna Love You
Notorious BIG - Mo Money Mo Problems

He was either a real douchebag or just got lucky with the request. Fortunately I have made edits for these tracks - joke's on u!!!

how about Oooh - De La Soul.

its got like 3 looooooong breaks in it

there are haters everywhere. even when i was on audio.

When I see someone using a BS controller and VDJ I hate, I'm not going to lie. I've hated on quite a few video video guys...Sorry but I think most people who use turntables despise button pushing DJ's whether video or not. Before V-SL the video game was DVJ or VDJ (yes I know there are a few others but those are the better of the bunch.) DVJ's are quite expensive so odds are if you used those you were pretty advanced, most DJ's can not afford a 3,500 dollar machine if they are whack.

Now that Serato has opened the floodgates for video in the US a lot of people are getting involved in video who grew up a wavies, maybe they are not now but they grew into DJing downloading a few limewire tracks and moving into a low paying gig. Maybe now they learned how to mix and where to get great music but the have NO IDEA about video. No idea where to get content...No idea what encoding is...How to organize...How to edit...ect. So essentially you can have a pretty good DJ that has shit content and gets a hate from me..haha

Charlie you've broken my heart...VDJ+VCI-100 user right here :).

Hahaha. I do like the VCI though...

Yea it's good, although the jogs take some getting used to.

Try 6.0 and see if you feel the same...

not ganna mention any names but when serato released vsl, i was talking to a power mixer, and he told me straight up "I dont need videos to get paid" and ended the conversation with a dirty look. I kinda laughed it off, but i bet you he is playin videos now..

How do you do the scrolling of text and put your logo on the screen?

use virtual dj or an edirol v4

virtual deeejaaaayy haaaayyyyyyyy!!!

damn a-swift beat me 2 it

I am VDJing a formal ball soon (mostly ballads/slow dance music)... I'll see how it goes.

Has a bar/club manager ever said to you "So if you're going to play videos, why shouldn't I just put MTV on?"

Apparently that's a common response when trying to sell video to a venue (although I've not heard it myself).

My answer to that would be: Well Turn MTV on, turn the brightness on your screens right down so you can just see darkness, now you have a DJ.

i use CUE/VDJ for video and it has logo overlay as well as a scrolling text feature built in to the software. i have found it to be a very stable solution for video mixing. good features and once its set up right works like a champ with tc cd and tc vinyl. i use it with a korg zero4 using the korgs sound card and sounds great.

you carry that mixer with you to clubs?

for the last week i have been. i used it this past saturday to open for webstar, lumidee and nore and it worked perfect.