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TTM 57sl crossfader problem

DJ Tomás 11:21 PM - 3 June, 2006
I just got my 57sl and practiced with it all day and then used it at the club that night. My crossfader doesn't stay shut when it's to the right. For example, I'm playing a song on the right deck over the speakers and cueing a song on the left deck, the crossfader will move by itself to the left and play the song I'm cueing over the house speakers (causing everyone to look at me like I'm an idiot). The only way it stays/cuts out the left deck is if I hold it all the way to the right. The fader "falls" back towards the center after you let it go, just enough to hear the left turntable. I have the cut-in set to fast, and even with the cut-in set to slow, you still hear the left deck when the fader slips (just not as loud). I'm new to these faders from Rane. Do they need a break in time or will this fix itself? It doesn't happen every time, but it does happen frequently. Any advice?
concorde_pilot 11:37 PM - 3 June, 2006
is the ttm standing strange?
mexicannnnnn 11:48 PM - 3 June, 2006
I've never heard of this before ever.
DJ Tomás 12:46 AM - 4 June, 2006
It's flat and level in my coffin.
DJ Tomás 12:49 AM - 4 June, 2006
Are there springs in there at the ends of the crossfader that got misplaced? It's almost like that, I have to push it against the "spring" to cut out the sound.
mexicannnnnn 1:02 AM - 4 June, 2006
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Are there springs in there at the ends of the crossfader that got misplaced? It's almost like that, I have to push it against the "spring" to cut out the sound.


Give Shuan a call... this is weird indeed.
RicecukeR 3:27 AM - 4 June, 2006
For the mean time adjust the curve of the fader to slow. That might help you for now.
mexicannnnnn 3:28 AM - 4 June, 2006
The best thing you do while you wait is leave the cross fader in the middle and use the channels faders to mix / cut.
nik39 4:02 AM - 4 June, 2006
Tomas, this should not happen. Looks like the fader have not been properly calibrated on your mixer. Read www.rane.com <- click, pages 8+9 to read how to adjust the faders cut-in moment.

Short:
* remove fader cover plate
* mode the fader to the end, set your curve to sharpes
* adjust the position of thall sensor (small IC sits between the end block and magner carrier)
* move IC away from end block and towards carrier to increase lag and unsure full cut

If you dont feel comfortable doing this bring your mixer back to your dealer or give the Rane guys a phone call (although this is not a complicated thing to fix for yourself).
nobspangle 8:47 AM - 4 June, 2006
Even with the calibration, the fader doesn't sound right to me. My faders don't move of their own free will. I have the lag at the absolute minimum so as soon as you touch the fader it starts to work but I have to touch the fader, it doesn't happen by itself.

Try what nik says, it is an easy adjustment to make. If you still have problems, give Shaun a call and ask him what to do.
concorde_pilot 11:33 AM - 4 June, 2006
when it just happens on the one side maby the mixer is sloping? :D
nik39 2:10 PM - 4 June, 2006
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Even with the calibration, the fader doesn't sound right to me.

I dont understand... So you have adjusted the lag and it still doesnt work sometimes?
nobspangle 3:41 PM - 4 June, 2006
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Even with the calibration, the fader doesn't sound right to me.

I dont understand... So you have adjusted the lag and it still doesnt work sometimes?

No that's not what I meant. I meant that to me DJ Tomás problem doesn't sound like a calibration issue. Unless the lag was even smaller than it is on my mixer.

He's saying that when the fader is pushed to one end he feels a springy resistance. I don't get that on my faders, they feel the same across the entire travel.
Idlemind1999 5:49 PM - 4 June, 2006
sounds silly, but... is the music so loud that its vibrating the fader ? Booth monitors have (even when they are not all that loud) vibrated things in the booth. Sunglasses, drinks, phones, and i imagine buttery soft faders too...
DJ Tomás 12:26 AM - 5 June, 2006
I used it again last night at the club with the slope adjust about 3/4 of the way to the right. I didn't have the problem last night, although I was fading using the channel faders mostly. I'm going to set it up at home and try it again this week with the slope adjust at quick cut. I'll try the calibration fix if it still happens at home. I don't believe it was vibration since it happened at home also with the small monitor speakers being fairly far away. Also, I could not duplicate it by just tapping or hitting the face of the mixer. I would say that the issue has happened about 30 times in the 20 hours or so of use (mostly when set to quick cut). If the calibration was off from the factory, would it make sense that this would occur every time? Thanks for the advice/help.
s42000 3:52 AM - 5 June, 2006
I think I am experiencing the same thing. I will re-hook up my 56 just to make sure all this is not in my head.
romerom 11:02 PM - 12 June, 2006
p.s. I have this same issue. crossfader is really really sensitive with a sharp fader curve. I'll check out the fix nik39 posted up and give that a shot.
DJ Tomás 5:55 AM - 13 June, 2006
This has only happened to me once since the last time a week and a half ago. I have not done the fix yet. It appears it has fixed itself! Anyway, I know what to do if it gets worse now.
Dj KaGeN 7:15 AM - 13 June, 2006
I have a Stanton SK-2F limited edition that a light breeze, like a fan, can move the focus fader... You in windy conditions over there?
nobspangle 7:58 AM - 13 June, 2006
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I have a Stanton SK-2F limited edition that a light breeze, like a fan, can move the focus fader... You in windy conditions over there?

The Rane fader is a bit stiffer than this, you need quite a large wind to move it.
romerom 3:11 AM - 14 June, 2006
this is happening more and more and I have the faceplate off of it and can't make sense as to what i need to be adjusting from nik39's post.. anybody else done this?
romerom 3:15 AM - 14 June, 2006
like right now i have to actually hold it all the way on the left side for it to cancel out the right.. the right side cancels out the left fine but the left i really gotta hold it to the side.. if i let go, the right side is cutting in
romerom 3:25 AM - 14 June, 2006
nevermind, got it :) its that small little plastic piece - you can bend it farther left or farther right.. bam :) fixed!
wakka 2:49 AM - 17 June, 2006
Were you DJing with only one shoe on? ;P
SteadFast 3:21 AM - 29 June, 2011
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If the calibration was off from the factory, would it make sense that this would occur every time? Thanks for the advice/help.

Only when the crossfader contour is set all the way to fast.


I checked our test procedures for calibration. There are two sets (for each side). One to verify the microprocessor is reading the proper values when the crossfader is placed at the extremes and another that checks the gain (with varying contour positions) at the extremes. [OK, this is several tests, but you get the idea.] The procedure does not allow the test to continue until both of these tests are passed.

It still sounds to me like you must hold the crossfader against the one side (with contour set to full fast) for full cut to be achieved. But if you let go of the fader (yet keep the crossfader at the end) and you get a little tiny bit of bleed. If this is the case, then nik39's link is the way to fix this Hall Effect mis-alignment:

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...Read www.rane.com <- click, pages 8+9 to read how to adjust the faders cut-in moment.


can someone repost the link please! thanks!
Rane, Support
Shaun W 4:55 PM - 29 June, 2011
Here's a link to the TTM 57SL maunal -->> www.rane.com

The link to the TTM 56 manual can be found here -->> www.rane.com
MAD_COWBOY 12:29 PM - 15 July, 2011
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Wow!! I had the same thing happen to me while mixing the "videos" the fader seem to move to my next video or not show it at all.. i would have a video on the LEFT deck playing while i have the RIGHT deck cued up with the next video...all you will see is the RIGHT video on the screen but the LEFT video is the one playing.. i can see the fader button on my screen move side to side... can you guys help me with this?? i have a ttm57 bought in 2009 with a new macbook pro 2011 model.