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How many of you VSlers...

djbigboy 6:25 PM - 2 June, 2009
How many of you VSLers are editing your own videos? Go ahead and feel free to guess a percentage of the users that are editing their own videos.

Do you feel like you spend an inordinate amount of time editing? How much time do you spend on each video (if theres an average time)?

And how many people just download the videos from whatever source and are just go to go?

I understand that editing your own videos adds your personal touch, i just want to get a grasp on the whole time involved.

Anyone making money off their videos (ie crooklyn clan, strictly hits, other)?
DJ-Phat-AL 6:34 PM - 2 June, 2009
to answer you questions in order you asked:

- I do (so if you are counting start with 1)

- It is a lot of time but worth every minute, hour, day spent on an edit

- there is no average time.. depends on the project

- I do get videos from sources and just go.. but I do edit too

- not making a living off my videos edits or remixes
djbigboy 6:47 PM - 2 June, 2009
Phat Al

Thanks for the response. I guess you couldn't make a living, but perhaps supplement your income. I heard about your gold digger edit, is that available on youtube to check out?

Thanks for the response...a while back when I first got serato I thought I'd be doing video, I tried editing, its a major pain...it seems some complicated when reading all the posts, not to mention intimidating.
djbigboy 6:50 PM - 2 June, 2009
answered my own question - found some on youtube - just misspelled...but no gold digger
Millz 7:22 PM - 2 June, 2009
I make a living off of djin and audio/video production:)
tomatoslice 7:46 PM - 2 June, 2009
i have created and edited a few videos but that's just for tracks or remixes that i do not have vids for.

only on certain videos do i feel like i spend a lot, maybe an hour or 3, but that's just because i don't have it down yet.

i primarily just dload, organize and am good to go.

not making a living off video edits or remixes but then again not trying.
i do make a living off djing/vjing.
eye357 9:56 PM - 2 June, 2009
I do porno but that's a whole other type of video....lol
DJ-Phat-AL 10:05 PM - 2 June, 2009
most of my video edits and remixes are available for previewing on my new website:

www.djphatal.com
djrayray0981 11:58 PM - 2 June, 2009
Very Dope Phat-Al.
Chrismo 2:49 AM - 3 June, 2009
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I make a living off of djin and audio/video production:)


me too
Funkytownstopsix 2:52 AM - 3 June, 2009
Phat-AL I see H-Town flavor in the mix,,, no Ghetto Boyz though and I know u play Ghetto Boyz........make me want to edit some of my shit I like how you have song full song go to instrumental makes for tight mixing. Yet since your doing it I will just watch yours and save my time... Love the site. Now I have to work on mine. If someone was to tell me one day you would be a web designer, no longer carry records, load songs as fast as you could blink and be an video editor,,,,, I would have slapped them silly... DAMN!!!!We do that and more,,, my how times have changed.

good job on editing I tried it and it looks easy but when you see stuff like gold digger and try to do it man it takes a lot of time you have find videos then speed up and slow stuff down cut paste bump it i quit.
DJ-Phat-AL 3:30 AM - 3 June, 2009
Gold Diggers was a chore... he was singing it at a different tempo live and to find all the key parts when he sang it too. Took a bit just to do it but I was happy with the results.

btw... I did play the Getto Boyz this past Friday at my gig at Eye Candy.... my mind is playing tricks on me.. old school H-Town !! gotta love it!
dj lad 5:11 AM - 3 June, 2009
I'd say half the videos I play on a given night are edits of some kind.
intensify 7:39 AM - 3 June, 2009
nice edits phat-al
djpuma_gemini 3:19 PM - 3 June, 2009
Nice website and videos phatal.
DJ Kidd Insomnia 11:23 PM - 3 June, 2009
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I'd say half the videos I play on a given night are edits of some kind.


I'd agree. Most of the videos that I play are edited by myself. Most of my edits are
extends and remixes. Extends don't take too long but a remix can't take a while to edit.
itchie 11:31 PM - 3 June, 2009
editing live shit to a studio track is the worest. especially with rock!
a-swift 8:11 AM - 4 June, 2009
In order:

1.) Yes i edit my own videos

2.) I guess the percentage of video DJs who edit their own videos is 100%, to what degree is another topic

3.) Inordinate amount of time? I feel like there is no way to be a good vdj AND have a day job. that's how much time this requires.

4.) I do not download videos and just go. There are only two options, play the promo only version or my own edit. No in -between. The exception would be screenplay.

5.) No one is making money from their video edits, at least not enough that I would consider it "real" money, except for maybe the guys running the sites that sell the videos. Profile is a HUGE part of this equation. A high profile editor making a lot of money with illegal edits would cause a scene. Keeping a low profile keeps the lawyers off you. I've found a way to sell videos with no legal hassles though. Pretty sure I'm the first one to think of this.
DJ-Phat-AL 9:13 AM - 4 June, 2009
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I've found a way to sell videos with no legal hassles though. Pretty sure I'm the first one to think of this.


do tell...
eye357 10:29 AM - 4 June, 2009
"I sold them all to myself on credit!." CHEECH N CHONG LOL
djpuma_gemini 4:28 PM - 4 June, 2009
Haha,

How about you pay me 100 for each edit of mine and I'll pay you 100 for each edit of yours.
10 edits equals 1000 dollas.
I'm rich bitch.
a-swift 4:35 PM - 4 June, 2009
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I've found a way to sell videos with no legal hassles though. Pretty sure I'm the first one to think of this.


do tell...


well if i told you, it wouldn't be a secret anymore. haha. just kidding (or am i). i'll hit you up on the cell al.
djbigboy 6:09 PM - 4 June, 2009
i guess i better up my game...

i have a day job...maybe I have to settle for mediocre VDJ...
Charlie Five 7:25 PM - 4 June, 2009
Yeah its just so tough to day job and really focus on editing plus gigs. I stick to just my Saturday residency (sometimes Friday) and travel gigs. Day job and GF kind of taken stronghold recently.
a-swift 7:59 PM - 4 June, 2009
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I've found a way to sell videos with no legal hassles though. Pretty sure I'm the first one to think of this.


do tell...


well if i told you, it wouldn't be a secret anymore. haha. just kidding (or am i). i'll hit you up on the cell al.


i was talking to kris about this and he asked if i was going to make a video with a bunch of woofers. i told him that's not a bad idea:

www.vjaswift.com
D-Twizzle 9:42 PM - 4 June, 2009
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i was talking to kris about this and he asked if i was going to make a video with a bunch of woofers. i told him that's not a bad idea:

www.vjaswift.com


Hey a-swift, did you copy that idea from the Sugar video? HAHA!
DJ-Phat-AL 9:44 PM - 4 June, 2009
^^
hee hee
a-swift 9:46 PM - 4 June, 2009
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i was talking to kris about this and he asked if i was going to make a video with a bunch of woofers. i told him that's not a bad idea:

www.vjaswift.com


Hey a-swift, did you copy that idea from the Sugar video? HAHA!


Don't get me started. I'm using it in my next edit and I'll know I did it first.
eye357 12:39 AM - 5 June, 2009
don't feel bad swift but I saw the speaker thing done like 10 years ago in the Janet Jackson with Busta Rhymes video...I forgot the name..
DJ Cubed 12:44 AM - 5 June, 2009
Considering the the nature of the business (music), I don't see how a wall of speakers could be ripping off of anybody.

I'm really curious, how do you get it to bump to the beat? qtz?
a-swift 5:02 AM - 5 June, 2009
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Considering the the nature of the business (music), I don't see how a wall of speakers could be ripping off of anybody.

I'm really curious, how do you get it to bump to the beat? qtz?


A python script analyzed the audio file and provided raw data to drive the x axis of the speaker cone 25 times per second. The 25 fps rendered stills are combined into a movie file. You won't get varied and realistic shadows, reflections and specular highlights like that with QTZ.
stevie o 1:38 PM - 5 June, 2009
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Considering the the nature of the business (music), I don't see how a wall of speakers could be ripping off of anybody.

I'm really BIcurious, how do you get it to bump to the beat? qtz?
Millz 2:19 PM - 5 June, 2009
wheres sean kingston fire burning video...sigh
Millz 3:34 PM - 5 June, 2009
the song is going to die be4 the video even comes out hahaha
eye357 6:58 PM - 5 June, 2009
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Considering the the nature of the business (music), I don't see how a wall of speakers could be ripping off of anybody.

I'm really BIcurious, how do you get it to bump to in your pants? qtz?
djpuma_gemini 7:03 PM - 5 June, 2009
haha
Christopher2 12:40 PM - 16 June, 2009
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3.) Inordinate amount of time? I feel like there is no way to be a good vdj AND have a day job. that's how much time this requires.
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I think you've taken it a step too far... It is possible to have a day job as well as be a good VDJ, but if you add a woman into that mix then one will have to give...

I work 9 hours a day and then I get home and the real work begins, trying to balance the editing work and my relationship with my wife, it's not easy. If I was single it would be easy but that's not life!
Christopher2 1:37 PM - 16 June, 2009
Oops on the quote.
djbigboy 3:06 PM - 16 June, 2009
Yeah - I think I would have to be up 20 hours a day in order to do the work I wanna do and keep the fam happy...just starting out, tonight is the first go
Christopher2 6:11 PM - 16 June, 2009
I'm getting about 5-6 hours sleep so close :)
shigga 5:34 AM - 17 June, 2009
what do you guys use to edit yoru videos? personally I prefer Vegas for quick editing and After Effects for... effects
shigga 5:35 AM - 17 June, 2009
some nice work on your website Phat Al, Joomla based website too :)
djbigboy 6:13 PM - 17 June, 2009
first night of VSL done....was awesome...different vibe tho...I didn't know all the edits as well as I thought I had...but, no major problems, but major props...got lots of compliments, thanks to everyone for the inspiration!
Funkytownstopsix 7:23 PM - 17 June, 2009
Congrats,,, DJBIGBOY... I remember when I first got my video up and running,,I felt like a kid.. Then I was like damn I don't have enough videos. LOL...I had a lot too still seems as I don't have enough. That same night I had my wife and her friends come upstairs and see it on the projector they were in ahhhhaw,,,This was a big deal as my wife don't get excited about anything but spending money on shoes,,,,that's when I knew I made a good investment. So I feel you on the inspiration.. Oh and one of the guys that came up does video commercials for a lot of the local business he uses Final Cut he too was in Awwwwhhhh I couldn't get him to leave me along asking about how in the hell am I doing this on the fly without editing.....Once again Inspiration.
Millz 7:29 PM - 17 June, 2009
fire burning @ itunes (quality is so.so)
djbigboy 8:00 PM - 17 June, 2009
Yeah I felt like a kid...I was just pushing to get thru the night and having as many hits as I could. i dont have great crate set up yet...but I made it thru...I think I will get the "great investment" vibe once I can get some other gigs that pay better then reg non video nights...but yeah, now I need more vids...I guess my next investment is a projector and screen...
itchie 9:26 PM - 17 June, 2009
get a rear-projection screen and a short-throw projector. worth the extra $
shigga 11:53 PM - 17 June, 2009
gotta try Final Cut
Funkytownstopsix 3:20 AM - 18 June, 2009
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get a rear-projection screen and a short-throw projector. worth the extra $

Itchie is right hit me up if you need some info... Or look at the profile.
cheeba (the believer) 12:53 PM - 18 June, 2009
when i first heard about SSL, the thing that got me most hyped and keen was the ability to play out my own edits/remixes/tracks.... this now goes for video now too. Pretty much 95% of what i use in shows has been edited myself... been filming stuff too which adds to the individual style of the show. If you've not tried it... do. start with something simple like imovie/hyper av and if you then get into it and feel restricted then get FCP or Vegas... editing is so much fun and you can add more dimensions to your blends bringing in narative threads and examples of your influences.

cheeba
Funkytownstopsix 1:02 PM - 18 June, 2009
U got an example Cheeba? Post a link or somthing....
cheeba (the believer) 1:55 PM - 18 June, 2009
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U got an example Cheeba? Post a link or somthing....


www.youtube.com

That was the first night i did the show back in febuary... its changed a bit now with more cameras and gadgets. I am currently doing a feature length studio version... i'll post up details of the d/l asap.
cheeba (the believer) 1:57 PM - 18 June, 2009
^that is just edited highlights of a 40 minute show ;)
Funkytownstopsix 2:43 PM - 18 June, 2009
Damn youtube can't see it from work will check it when i get home or on my New Palm Pre at lunch. I did a few things last weekend that worked pretty good I used a few clips from the five heatbeats & 300 and I must say people were into it. So I can see your point I just never used my own made videos but it's time. I am not one who likes to edit and rather just do it free style on the fly.
cheeba (the believer) 3:32 PM - 18 June, 2009
Funkytownstopsix 6:06 PM - 18 June, 2009
Lol blocked too!!!! I think they track me. I can see vids in flash as long as they are not from major sites. I can see A-swifts stuff and mine but others are blocked.
shigga 4:30 AM - 19 June, 2009
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vimeo?

Watchwww.vimeo.com javascript:void(0);


man, awesome stuff... my net's too slow atm so i've only viewed the first 15 seconds or so but will watch it later
Funkytownstopsix 11:52 AM - 19 June, 2009
Man do you like looking at yourself...: ) I must say damn you did some editing.... That was very tight...I was there looking and didn't look away because I wanted to see what's next. But way to much editing for me....I hate editing but I might have to change my mindset after looking at your video... Very Sweet,,,,,it was