dvd-recorder. works great for me

me too, for two reasons. 1) so if i have something i wanna show off later, i've got an HQ recording of it. 2) so if i break my leg an hour before showtime the next night, the club can pop in a disc of currently-popular stuff until i or my replacement can get there.

you can pick up dvd-recorders for cheap and dvd-r's are less than 25¢ so it's hard to go wrong with that.

Pinnicale Video Transfer its sick and simple NO 2nd computer needed and then you can drag and drop back to Serato with out any bullshit. Its an mp4 nice shit..$80 at best buy then buy a 8GB flash thumb drive....so easy...Tim

www.pinnaclesys.com

Thanks for the Ideas, I forgot to mention that I am using a Unibody Macbook pro, so I dont know if I have configuration issues for s video. I like the idea of the Pinnicale Video Transfer, but I dont know what I would need to use for inputs being that I only have the Mini plug to vga, but I assume there should be adapters. Anyone else have any Ideas

the pinnacle is off...it goes off sync..i have it n dropped it.

i had the pinnacle for about a day.
it interlaced the videos.

AJA IO HD recording HDMI 1920x1080 30p to ProRes422

i don't want to hear any arguments that recording uncompressed is actually better than ProRes422. of course it is. it's also overkill. what am i talking about. this whole post is overkill. he did say best way though. maybe i took it too literally.

i thought the forum already decided months ago that screenflow capture was the best way. if i had to post my honest opinion of a realistic capture setup, i'd probably say mix emergency for recording a video performance. i still get some mileage out of the various ways i'm able to capture the video out of the mac directly. it's straightforward and very easy to do. less shit to go wrong, although it can get a little tricky to do that in a club if you don't have the right gear.

Get an iMic. That way you can record the sound at the same time.
store.apple.com

+1

I'm having the same issues with Vidi for Mac. Dv file looks great but when I burn on DVD it looks pixelized. I thought it might be IDVD. Was gonna look into another DVD burning program.

I use iShowU HD Pro. It has an option for recording with very low cpu levels. what this does is stops the compression on recording and compresses everything when you're done and you push stop. "ONLY" downside, is that if you do an hour mix it will take 3-4 hours to compress when you're done. That's not bad though.

It records in many different formats and dimensions. You choose the codec and size you want and it records both audio and video! Just make sure you set up to record your second display (or where ever your vsl output window is) & uncheck "follow mouse" or you'll get a video of your mouse moving all around the SSL GUI. LoL. Yeah i did that. Ruined a whole hour of mixing! HaHa.

Check it out, it works great and NO second computer needed! Oh yeah, and it's for MAC not Windows (Sorry if you're a Windows user).

DVD recorder from wallmart
no hassle

Which one from walmart are you using with good results? What model

Philips DVDR3475

perfect with DVD-Rs

I have one from Walmart that records well but My son has a Sony (also from Walmart) that has a display that shows how long you've been recording.
When we record live parties. I bring both DVD recorders. I start with the Sony and about 5 or 10 minutes minutes before the hour, I start recording with the other. After that we go back with the Sony for the next hour.
It would be better if both DVD recorders had the display so I wouldn't have to guess.

Ive heard good things about this

Sony DVDirect VRD-MC5...I guess theres an HD version

Holy crap! The AJA Ki Pro has started shipping. This thing is the ultimate video capture box. I'm seriously considering it.

How much?

I'm looking for some kind of recorder or recorders for my PTZ cameras. Something that will record at least 3 hours of high quality video without paying big bucks.

Swift, do you have any ideas?

I use sreenplay....hit my website to see how it looks www.vdjbig.com. I have a dvd recorder & Pinnicale Video Transfer. Dvd is cool but you have to rip and convert if you want to use in your set. Pinnicale Video Transfer sucks to hell, I like two thing about it,,,it records in MP4 format & to a memory stick or even a hard drive,,that's a plus because I could move files around easy that way. What I don't like is that it's out of sync and interlaced.

Screenplay is cool because it records the set and u can run audio back into the your laptop so video and audio are together and synced. You have to choose how you want to convert it and trust me it takes a minute to do that. Yet I am happy with the results on my site only one of them was done by dvd if you pic it you get a prize, don't include the remixes those were done in FCP. I'm a rookie to the video game but I have tried just about every way to record a set and the two best that I have found is screenplay and DVD.... Oh before I forget the best thing about screenplay is that it's always with you no equipment to carry and you can record your sets live if you choose.. A BIG ASS PLUS.....hope this helps.

Kenny since your talking about ptz's you could buy a card add it to a pc and record hi quaity vid from your cam's. Look up DVR PC Card there are many to choose from and if you have a pc it's a very cheap way to record video.

same for me. got one really cheap at a supermarket.

AJA Ki Pro is about $3500

Do what I do. I firewire capture box and use a spare laptop to capture the footage. Cheap easy and decent quality.

Most the footage for the jam session was captured this way. I just use a CHEAP old Dell laptop and windv.exe to capture the image and sound. I can capture 10 hours straight to the hard drive. Even more if I upgrade to a 500GB.

I like the old laptop idea. What kind of cables do you need to capture the image and sound?

Swift, which firewire capture box do you use?

Wow! 10 Hours.
Can It record from two cameras at the same time?

Thanks,

i use a Canopus Twinpact 100 firewire capture box and it works good, but ME works the best for recording mixes.

like itchie, i also use a canopus box. doesn't really matter which one you use, they all will do this basic task. i use a canopus advc-100. the cables you need to do this, break down like this:

apple dvi to composite -> composite video input on canopus
canopus firewire dv output -> firewire input on laptop
mixer aux out rca -> canopus stereo audio input

well at the jam session i capture from multiple camera but each camera needs it's own laptop to capture the video. these old dells actually come in useful for that,

thanks Swift. Which dells are you using or is it all pretty much the same

I have 2 old Toshiba Satellite laptops. They must be about 9 years old. They have USB 1 and Windows XP.
Do you think they would work with the Canopus Twinpact 100?

Yes Kenny Q. My main DV capture box has been capturing since around 2002. It's a pretty old pentium 4 and it captures flawless (it's what I use for my homebrew tivo, before tivo was invented).

As long as your laptops have firewire, you should be good. It's unlikely they do though.

oh, i've never heard of the twinpact so i have no idea.

I've always used firewire with those laptops (I have firewire cards).
Thanks Swift, I was going to give away one of those laptops.

the only diference is the twinpact has vga in/out aswell. it doubles as vga/dv capture and as a solution to the Unibody vga to s-video issue.

Steve, why do you rerender the video? You can just remux.

I have not problems with recording my mix with MixEmergency.

damn it.. I mean I don't have any problems [...].

remux... *waiting for a-swift to chime in*

So do you use mix emergency to mix and record or just to record?

I don't understand the question. How would you just record it without mixing with it?

This looks cool!
www.tigerdirect.com

That cost too much.
Cool that you can take Hi-Def off memory cards but I wonder how that would look.

I had one and returned it. The quality wasn't great. Also dvddecrypter wouldn't read/rip the disc to make copies.

Now if I was to get something it might be this..
www.amazon.com
with all the imputs i think its a must. That is if I wanted to spend 200
think I will stick to screenplay for now.

itchie your worst then me, I try so much stuff that sometimes I try it twice.

i'm telling you all. aja ki pro. it's the end all. at least in the club. if you're making a video mix in the house, a matrox mx02 will do the same thing at half the price.

links swift links?

a-swift your are wrong.. Half the price my ass...Like I said give me the links to where you get yours at half that price... DMAN

Seriously funkytown. The Aja ki pro is about $3500 and the MX02 is about $1500. Links? EBAY!

i paid 99 for screenplay,,,, so where is the half. : )

The MX02 is half the price of the Ki Pro,.. that's what I meant.

SO I bought the Pinnicale transfer box despite the bad reviews, got it cheap at 50 bucks, but havent tried it yet, and it looks as if I will use screenflow as my main. I will test the results I come up with.

Swift, how did you get the live feed of yourself in the lower left corner of your live video mix?

lol

well it really was live when i recorded it.

Once more this is how my demo video mix was put together.

VSL output from the mac was captured with a DV firewire box
AUX audio out from the mixer was also input to the DV firewire box
A DV camera was pointed at me against a green screen, recorded to a laptop
both video files were put into final cut and composited. during the compositing, the green screen was removed so the background video shows around me.
the compositing also included a SONY lcd jpeg which i found on images.google.com

the video mix was done 100% live though. almost a year and half old and still fun to watch!

i use a small old toshiba mini touch screen and a pinnacle usb capture card and get fine results. yoy dont need a huge processor if all your doing is recording in.

WoW!!!!! Man...you are so sick with your work! So how would we come out of a PC into the DV Firewire box, or is that possible?

I tell you...I'd pay for some of your tutorials. I'm sure there are many more jocks out here that will certainly agree (just make sure you explain how it can be done on PC too...LoL!!!).

the DV firewire box has a VIDEO input. Just like a TV. Hooking up to a DV firewire box is just like hooking up to a TV. The video connector looks like an RCA connector and usually is yellow.

your laptop probably does not have a direct video out but it probably has a VGA, DVI or something like that. usually that means using a VGA to video adapter, if your laptop have VGA out. If your laptop has an S-video connector, like some Dells do, that's easy. The DV firewire box usually has an S-video input directly on it. If you're on a Mac, this is also very easy since you can get a DVI to video adapter for the mac for about $20.

If you're on the very latest mac with mini display port output, this does get trickier.

Thanks Swift!!!! I truly appreciate your efforts, I'm about to go into hustle mode, I feel like I'm a decade behind the times. Your expertise definitely gets me started! Now I just gotta pull all the pieces together, get the software and begin to experiment. I'm still torn between Vegas and Premiere.

well if you decide to go with Final Cut, make sure you check the swift fcp session:

www.vjaswift.com

I've looked at it 3 times since yesterday! I wish they had Final Cut for Windows...

Hummmmmm!!!!!!! Swift I won't say it but you know what I want to say..... Liked the the session,,,,,,,,,Hummmmm,,, ,ahuhhhh. never mind when you get time I am sure it will happen.... dooo be doo be doooooo...

Swift (or anyone else reading...), are there any capture boxes receive video from HDMI? I have an HP HDX18 I only have HDMI and VGA video outs...

HDMI capture will be VERY expen$ive. Use a VGA to video converter. This will be less than $100.

Cool...Preciate it!

Canopus Twinpact 100 has VGA to DV capture.