I know a dj who rocks this hd for his videos www.lacie.com
it works fine

i use the very same firewire hd for videos on my macbook. it works fine with no problems or issues.

many people use the ocz bus-powered firewire drive without any problems

Peeti...

I am using Firewire external drives every week and have had 0 problems. I purhcased WD 500 gig Scorpio Blue drives and installed them in this case.

www.newegg.com

I'm one of them. works flawless.

which model you using?

eshop.macsales.com

and

eshop.macsales.com


oh shit i read twiz's post wrong. i use the OWC external drives...most likely the same.

I use the glyph firewire 800 7600 rpm and it works flawlessly!
www.glyphtech.com

This blog post really made me hesitant to go Firewire bus powered. I chose USB 2.0 for my Vidz, only issues I've had are a 5-10 sec latency when I am not accessing any data from the drive and go to access a video in VSL.
Hopefully USB 3.0 will become available soon!!!

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Shit happens. I have had my USB port go out on my MBP and my friends USB port just went out on his computer.

i meant owc, too many acronyms to remember

peeti i use what rebel uses and 0 problems. he is yoda when it comes to this shit and d-twizzle is luke skywalker hahahha

OWC

FTW

IMHO

Just an FYI, my friend has quite a few OWC drives and he had one overheat at a gig and decide to quit on him. Like I said above...shit happens to any and all vendors.

that's not good

Yes the OWC drives with the firewire 800 is the way to go.

Niros

okay I have a question on the OWC drives.

they have 5400 and 7200 options with different Cache sizes.

I went all out last time, but this time I am wondering if it makes the difference. Can anyone chime in on drive speed and cache size VS FW 4/800 transfer speed.

I have this one:
eshop.macsales.com
(paid twice as much for it)

was thinking about getting this one:
eshop.macsales.com

but this one is $80 cheaper for the same space
eshop.macsales.com

my internal HD is 5400 and I have no issues loading video, no lag. Is an external 5400 going to be slower due to the FW connection, thus making the 7200 RPM an improvement. OR Is it all overkill?

I know many of you are VSLin' with USB2 drives and have few issues.

Dub, the cheaper one is 5400rpm, the more expensive one is 7200rpm. You really don't need the extra spin speed, it will only make it more prone to heat in an unfriendly environment.

thats what i was thinking

I would rather put the extra money toward another drive and buy 2 at the same time.

Well you're wrong on 2 counts here eder. The heat difference is minimal and will not make a difference, however the ability to run multiple video's without extra stress on the system more than makes up for anything else.

You have the spindle running all over the place on the platter and the extra rpm speed makes a ton of difference, especially over the long term as the video rates move higher to account for the difference in quality.

' nuff said
7200 Rpm it is

Phasers set to kill

I am sorry to say that this is where you are wrong Justin. The heat difference between 7200 RRM and 5400 RPM is far from minimal. As I stated above my friend had one of the OWC drives unmount during a gig because of heat...guess what 7200 RPM.

I myself previously used all 7200 RPM drives but ALL of them would grow excessively hot in their cases and more than once my videos would glitch or freeze up.

A number of my friends who used 7200 RPM drives in their laptops have switched them out due to high heat and drain on their batteries.

Check for reviews on the Western Digital Scorpio Blue. It's a 5400 RPM drive that has speeds that are VERY close to 7200 without the negative side effects.

And finally, I have asked the Serato tech support and they said there are no issues using 5400 RPM drives.

I've personally owned both the 5400rpm and 7200rpm external drives. There is no noticeable difference in running VSL, editing in Final Cut, or working in Logic using files off of the 5400rpm drive. And yes there is a HUGE heat difference, that I can attest for by just TOUCHING the drives while both are running and accessing/reading/writing files to them.

+1 on the heat difference.

Do your homeworks before you post.

VSL's difference is really minimal (if you can't spot any difference at all).

Heat depends on if you are using a drive that cools with convection cooling or fan cooling, and what type of case your drive uses.

Nik, seriously, you...nevermind, I'm trying to behave regarding you. Let me say this plainly. If you think that there is no difference in dealing with files and file sizes, caches when editing and rendering, % of drive fullness and speed, and a host of other things that go into utilizing a faster drive, then you really have no clue.

All of these things, and more, matter and relate to the speed of the drive. And then start adding multiple video playback, scratching, audio laydown, extra graphics, the possibility of additional tracks...well you go have fun with your slower 5400 rpm drive.

And never again assume that you are the expert on anything relating to video.

I am pretty sure that I am no expert.

Can you say the same about yourself, Mr. I'm-gonna-post-my-21st-century-mix-cause-I've-been-into-this-video-gam
e-for-20years+++? (That's what you said in at least one thread) :)

Nik, You really need to drop your attitude.

For everyone else, please read what Serato recommends for video. Listen to the people that wrote the program as opposed to someone who seems to have an agenda on these boards.

www.scratchlive.net

Whot.. you wanna lay me? ;) No thanks, sir.


Ah, now I remember having issues with my external running at 5400rpm... NOT.

:)

However, 7200rpm produce more heat, so... you should not use that in your internal macbook, cause VSL performance wise there is no noticable difference. About externals - well I do not really care, ... buy an external drive with build in cooler an you're good to go even with a 15000 rpm I suppose.

That's 2 comments in a row you have accused me of saying things I have not. Please learn how to read before posting.

And not you are also saying that Serato is wrong as well. Nik, why are you even on these boards?

I think you should read again.



Nope. Again you should read again, but this time what Serato wrote.



To help out people, providing valuable, confirmable information.

What about you?

And once again I say that I have NEVER had any of the issues you mentioned running a 5400 RPM drive for VSL. My system has run even better since switching out my 7200 RPM drives.

Homeboy you don't even have Serato. Somebody's talkin' a lot of talk without walkin' the walk. That's like you bringing your jibber jabber onto my turf and forget to bring your cleats for the Pain Game.



WHOOOOO!

www.garybabb.net

Wow, you been to my house. you know what I have and don;t have.

lol been using Serato for 2 years now whenever I just do audio gigs.

nik39 and VJ Justin Allen,

You guys have obviously got some issues with one another but could you do everyone else here a favor and sort your shit out somewhere else.

Your constant bickering is tiring and of value to no one.

You're correct, the personal remarks do not belong to this forum and serve no one. My apologies.

(Apologies to the readers and to VJ Justin Allen)

I say we have a hard drive shoot out.

5400 VS 7200
USB2 VS FW400 VS FW800


after school
under the bridge
3 o clock

don't be chcicken

My apologies as well.

ok back to topic you bickering people ! hahaha i use a 320gb self powered firewire 400 7200 rpm notebook drive in a external case... damn that's a mouthful (no homo) it does heat up but it works fantastic... no problems here. so to answer the original question, i had good luck and recommend you to get it too. =)

glyph firewire ...+1

my drive can beat your drive up.

so there

The glyph 500 gig is just a seagate momentus in a fancy case that you are paying double the price for. Yes they offer 1 year of advance replacement but the Seagate drives come with a 5 year warranty anyway.

Since this seem to be the post with the most action I thought I would see if anyone has any suggestions in here!

I have the new Dell Studio XPS vista laptop which only has 1 usb for SL. So in order for me to do video, I need to connect either via the Firewire 1394 or eSATA (does SL Video support eSATA?) I want to buy an external 500gb bus powered drive for either one of these connection. My question is does anyone have the same configuration as my laptop (vista) and what external bus powered drive they have had success with.

I would say get the firewire as it is natively supported within the hardware. The eSata is supported via software, and drivers so there is more chances of that part having issues. As long as you can see the drive, Serato can see the drive.

Same goes for the firewire ports. They also have drivers (which is software).

i just bought a 500 gb hd firewire powered. OWC brand. Works great. If anybody can help me out on this (no need for thread jacking just pm me with answer if know it please) but if i had my videos on another external drive transferred to my new drive and put all my mp3s on the new drive, how do i get my videos in my crates on my drive. I put my mp3 crates but when i go to my videos they are not there but the crate is.

Watchwww.youtube.com

word,
wd 500 gb 800 fw.

I would go with a Fire Wire 800 Bus power drive.

Do you know if they make that/an express card so that it will power the Hard Drive without plugging in an additional power wire? Use the power from the laptop to power the firewire HD?

I have the same problem where my laptop only has the 4pin firewire. (Data Only) But all the bus power external firewire drive either use the 9pin or 6pin to power the drive without the additional plug in.

I'll be all over an express card that can do this! Does anyone know of this or use it now?

when I was researching this I couldnt find that solution.
I was on the same boat.

what it comes down to is the expresscard slot.
if that is powered (which I dont think they ever come powered) then u could.
when I talked to WD about sending me a power supply for the WD500 they sent me a power supply which they said powers it, but it clearly doesent.
the 500 has no AC input on it.
so, like my video...I power the express firewire card through an AC adapter.

If I had to do it all over again (now that Im around 700gb of video)
I would have bought a TB/750 gb 800FW that requires power.
not that I ever have to use more than 500gb at a gig, but I like to have everything
at my disposal for use.
but it in the end, what ever is goin to carry my videos is going to need power if I
want it to transfer at 800.

if you find something otherwise LET ME KNOW!