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Time Remapping In FCP, A DJ A-Swift Tutorial

a-swift 6:55 AM - 24 March, 2009
Sometimes fit to fill won't do the trick. When that happens, turn to the time remap tool.

www.vjaswift.com
dj lad 7:22 AM - 24 March, 2009
That's good stuff. I'm a Premiere user (and probably will be for life), but this is really helpful to those who don't know how to time stretch.
nik39 10:06 AM - 24 March, 2009
a-swift, the human metronome ;)

Nice. Informative, helpfull and easy to understand.

A have one question though... in the live video at the two bottom lanes... I guess the audio will not be "morphed" as well?
Kenny Q 1:40 PM - 24 March, 2009
Thanks again Swift.
Once again, an informative video made from and for DJs.

You should ad something to your website that will allow people to donate.
a-swift 5:39 PM - 24 March, 2009
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a-swift, the human metronome ;)

Nice. Informative, helpfull and easy to understand.

A have one question though... in the live video at the two bottom lanes... I guess the audio will not be "morphed" as well?


audio can be stretched with constant speed but the variable speed changes (time remapping), affects video only.

at least from what i've seen.
skinnyguy 6:25 PM - 24 March, 2009
clever
a-swift 6:46 PM - 24 March, 2009
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A have one question though... in the live video at the two bottom lanes... I guess the audio will not be "morphed" as well?


audio can be stretched with constant speed but the variable speed changes (time remapping), affects video only.

at least from what i've seen.


also, since FCP can not stretch and maintain pitch (at least not without an AU plugin), stretching audio in FCP is futile. I've always stressed that your audio should be in the can by the time you bring to FCP. Even though FCP gives you a lot of tools for audio, real audio programs still do it better.

Since we all have real audio programs and know how to use them, we should use those for audio even if it does add another step.
DJBIGWIZ 7:20 PM - 24 March, 2009
Swift, thanks for all the help you provide cats with on here, it's appreciated!
dj lad 8:31 PM - 24 March, 2009
I might do this for Premiere. Seriously nice work swift. It's easy to follow for a beginner but not so simplistic that you can't grow from it.
a-swift 9:05 PM - 24 March, 2009
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I might do this for Premiere. Seriously nice work swift. It's easy to follow for a beginner but not so simplistic that you can't grow from it.


It's always hard for me to balance beginner vs. advanced users. I want guys like Phat Al, Kris P, Crush and other cats to chime in on this stuff so I don't want to dumb it down too much. I still want newbies to be able to grasp it right off the top too.

I'd like to see this stuff in premiere, vegas, etc. So, hopefully some of you experts will chime in with more tutorials!
Funkytownstopsix 8:12 PM - 25 March, 2009
I was not big on using FCP but since A-Swift is the only one puttting out videos to help us newbies FCP is all I use now. I will never be a pro but I can now do a few things on my own. Thanks Swift and others that help us young grasshoppers out. I don't edit much and one thing that I do know is I forget very quickly so I download these videos and keep them close to refresh my mind when I do.

I don't know about you guys but it seems to me all the remixes that I am seeing are all the same. Really,,,same vid same inst by diffrent Dj/video editors. Is it just me? Us young rookies can bring some Lil Wayne to the game...Well not me not yet but one day after a few more A-swift classes I will go off the chain...
Kenny Q 8:52 PM - 25 March, 2009
I would like to see a session on using FCS's DVD burning program for putting mixes on DVD with a nice menu and tracks.

I've been using Sony's CD Architect but I would like to see what an Apple program will do.
a-swift 9:02 PM - 25 March, 2009
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I would like to see a session on using FCS's DVD burning program for putting mixes on DVD with a nice menu and tracks.

I've been using Sony's CD Architect but I would like to see what an Apple program will do.


making DVDs with pretty menus is pretty simple compared to complex video editing really. I mean the list of things you need to master to be really good at making killer DVD titles is a pretty short list. Editing is so much more complex. I suppose I could throw a quick one together but I'd actually have to think about it and I might not be able to do it in one take. The other two things I've posted were seriously ONE take, no script and just right off the top of the head.

as easy as it is, not sure I could do that with DVD Studio Pro today, since I rarely create DVDs, and even more rarely create DVDs with embedded movies in the menus and what not.
Kenny Q 9:34 PM - 25 March, 2009
I just started making video mix DVDs with DVD Architect. I've made about 8 or so with my son's mixes.
I watch them on my portable DVD player everyday while running on the eliptical machine at the gym. Other people around me get very jealous.
I haven't got into making fancy menus yet but I would like to learn.

I remember having a one to one iMovie session at the Apple store and the trainer told me that she tried to use DVD Studio Pro once (without training) and it seemed very hard to understand.
a-swift 9:50 PM - 25 March, 2009
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I just started making video mix DVDs with DVD Architect. I've made about 8 or so with my son's mixes.
I watch them on my portable DVD player everyday while running on the eliptical machine at the gym. Other people around me get very jealous.
I haven't got into making fancy menus yet but I would like to learn.

I remember having a one to one iMovie session at the Apple store and the trainer told me that she tried to use DVD Studio Pro once (without training) and it seemed very hard to understand.


well i was making my own DVDs with menus,... waaaaay before there was any decent commercial software to do it with. I mean when I started, there were exactly ZERO consumer programs for creating serious DVDs. They were all pro apps with 5 digit price tags. By 2000, I had an entire UNIX scripted workflow worked out for taking a directory of MPG files, automatically generating the PNG files for menu levels, authoring the the DVD folder structure and building the whole project with one keypress. It was pretty slick.

then Apple released DVD Studio Pro 1.0, and there was literally NOTHING like it. Your choices before that were crap like Ulead Studio and some other crap windows software I can't remember. Trust me, it was crap. Within about a 9 month period, almost every DVD I got from blockbuster seemed to be authored with Apple's DVD Studio.

That was like 10 years ago though. Since then, I honestly haven't done much with DVD authoring. No need really. If I need a DVD, I just take all the files, drop them into the timeline in DVD Studio Pro and burn it. Sometimes I'll make the end track loop back to the first track to make a never ending DVD but that's about as fancy as I get.

Funny that your apple contact thought DVD Studio Pro was hard. I think iMovie is hard. You can't do anything in iMovie.
D-Twizzle 10:04 PM - 25 March, 2009
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Your choices before that were crap like Ulead Studio and some other crap windows software I can't remember.

I use to use Ulead a back in 2002 to author DVDs with menus and it was really easy to use. Very easy wizards that guide you through everything.
a-swift 10:55 PM - 25 March, 2009
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Your choices before that were crap like Ulead Studio and some other crap windows software I can't remember.

I use to use Ulead a back in 2002 to author DVDs with menus and it was really easy to use. Very easy wizards that guide you through everything.


Easy, yes. But the early PC programs for authoring DVDs were really crippled in capability. I remember the early programs all being plagued by really simple limitations like not supporting multi-angle titles or image maps for menu images, or even simple stuff like not being able to embed movies in menus. I also seem to remember them being braindead about stuff like aspect ratios and just a bunch of simple stuff that nobody was doing right.

I remember one of the things I could never figure out was the scripting language built into the DVD spec. All DVD players that are able to bear the DVD consortium logo, understand this scripting language. Anyway, before DVD studio pro, I could never figure out how to make a DVD of music videos that would play in a random order every time you played it. Like shuffle. This was fairly easy to do in DVD Studio Pro, 10 years ago. No other application could do stuff like that back then, not consumer apps at least.

I'm sure they are much better now though.
Kenny Q 11:02 PM - 25 March, 2009
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Funny that your apple contact thought DVD Studio Pro was hard. I think iMovie is hard. You can't do anything in iMovie.

I use iMovie for photo montages. It is incredibly easy. The person at the Apple store uses iDvd.
a-swift 11:14 PM - 25 March, 2009
That's what I meant, iDVD. I've tried to use iMovie and iDVD and have gotten nowhere. Same with Garage Band vs. Logic. It just seems like they try so hard to make it easy, it makes it too hard.
DJ-Phat-AL 1:01 AM - 26 March, 2009
I was using Sonic Scenarist back in 2000 to author DVD's... it was the industry standard to make professional DVD's at the time. I would do all my menus in After Effects and Photoshop. It was a complicated process. Alot easier now-a-days...

Currently I use After Effects, Photoshop, Encore DVD, Vegas(and/or)Premiere to make a DVD. Depends on the project really. The workflow between all the Adobe products works great.
djpuma_gemini 5:49 AM - 26 March, 2009
I could have used this for the kanye heartless video,

nice work swift.
a-swift 3:06 PM - 26 March, 2009
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I could have used this for the kanye heartless video,

nice work swift.


wait puma,.. you don't use FCP!!!
D-Twizzle 3:17 PM - 26 March, 2009
haha, it's easier to do this in vegas anyway.
a-swift 3:37 PM - 26 March, 2009
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haha, it's easier to do this in vegas anyway.


it's easier to do in whatever you know better.
Kenny Q 4:37 PM - 26 March, 2009
Twizzle,
How about a Vegas session?
Funkytownstopsix 5:27 PM - 26 March, 2009
Yeah Twizzle how bout a class. I have all three Adobe, Vegas, and FCP and don't know how to use any of them...Well I do FCP now...Thanks for the fade info Swift I kept cliking on it but it would never hit the timeline didn't think I had to drag it...
Kenny Q 6:32 PM - 26 March, 2009
An Adobe After Effects class would be good too.
djpuma_gemini 7:41 PM - 26 March, 2009
I'm still waiting for my 3d screen class for vegas...
Kenny Q 7:48 PM - 26 March, 2009
I'd hate to upset anybody but personally, I think that money talks.
If a bunch of us donate some moolah per instruction. It will motivate whoever gives the session.

A-Swift is awesome for offering this for free and saved many people time and money. He should be compensated.
nik39 8:45 PM - 26 March, 2009
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A-Swift is awesome for offering this for free and saved many people time and money. He should be compensated.

+1. I don't have a problem paying 10 bucks or something.
Kenny Q 8:58 PM - 26 March, 2009
$10 x 30 people is $300.
I think that's fair.
djrayray0981 9:03 PM - 26 March, 2009
What's your Paypel A-Swift?, I argee with Kenny. I'll be the first one to donate
a-swift 9:58 PM - 26 March, 2009
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I'm still waiting for my 3d screen class for vegas...


since puma is obssesed with the way twizzle does 3D screens in Vegas, maybe I'll do a replica of this effect in Motion.

either way, i'll take donations for that one. $10 is a good target, via pay pal. a live webex would be better though, so you can ask questions.

i'll need to take it off the forums though since they don't allow the advertising of services or products here.
D-Twizzle 10:14 PM - 26 March, 2009
cha-ching!
a-swift 10:25 PM - 26 March, 2009
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cha-ching!


you know more about this stuff than i do. you should be doing the same thing. double cha-ching.
Kenny Q 11:28 PM - 26 March, 2009
I take a cut of the action since I came up with the idea.

Cha Ching Ching Ching!
Kenny Q 12:00 AM - 27 March, 2009
This is what I would do if I was Swift.

I would give everyone access to the first session (just like he did).
Then ask for a $25 donation for future sessions.
If DJs are willing to pay $35 for one Eric Edward drop, they should be able to afford one of these sessions (which is more valuable in my opinion).

I would also ask everyone to keep the video to themselves and not let anyone else have it without my permission.
a-swift 12:15 AM - 27 March, 2009
Kenny, obviously you have a job and are willing to invest in your career. Most of these cats will not do that. Man, I know guys on here who won't even pay for a legit copy of VSL. Guys who use SSL at the club every night but have never bought it.

If I get more than 5 people to donate, that'll be 5 more than I thought I could get. The first few sessions were pretty basic so I wouldn't charge for that anyway but if I demystify some stuff that I don't think the average cat could figure out,.. then hell yeah.

Anyway, let's not talk about this here anymore. This thread is dangerously close to violation right now. Depending on who's working the lock down buttons, it could be over the limit already.
djpuma_gemini 3:48 AM - 27 March, 2009
Thanks to google and shit loads of searching. I finally figured out what the 3d screens is called and sorry to say I'm not saying because I have been searching for ever.

It's pretty easy, now I just gotta make the borders.
a-swift 3:51 AM - 27 March, 2009
whats the big deal with these screens. i think i missed something. watching the video again ...
djpuma_gemini 3:53 AM - 27 March, 2009
I have been intrigued since seeing them on Po powersets, gotta step my video editing game up and those look pretty sweet, but in small portions.
a-swift 4:00 AM - 27 March, 2009
ok, i just watched the video again. the only effect i can see is "Godrays", at least that's what it's called in FxFactory. But I'm sure every efx package calls it something different. Effect is generally the same though.

the borders can be made with simple color generator. Generate a solid color. Move it to the top edge. Repeat for bottom.

the screen zooming on beat effect can be done by simply scaling the image up and down, on beat.

the 4 mini screens can be done by just scaling the image down, moving it to a corner, layering 3 more of the same scaled image, moved to the other 3 corners.

no fancy effects needed. unless I'm missing something.

feel free to correct me, or dissect my videos. i really don't use many effects.
a-swift 4:01 AM - 27 March, 2009
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I have been intrigued since seeing them on Po powersets, gotta step my video editing game up and those look pretty sweet, but in small portions.


we must be talking about a different video. i think you mean the screens floating in 3D, not the miami video,
a-swift 4:05 AM - 27 March, 2009
Puma, in Motion these are done with templates that have drop zones. Those "screens" are easy to do, just make (or get) a template with some drop zones flying around in 3D, then drop your video content onto the drop zones and you're done.

Some good drop zone templates for Motion here:

www.finalcutprotemplates.com

of course you don't have to pay the $100, just watch the preview and if you see a style you like, make it in Motion or After Effects yourself.
djpuma_gemini 4:06 AM - 27 March, 2009
Yes screens floating, not in the miami video.
Funkytownstopsix 12:37 PM - 27 March, 2009
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I have been intrigued since seeing them on Po powersets, gotta step my video editing game up and those look pretty sweet, but in small portions.

+1 I always thought it was some software I couldn't afford until I got FCP.

Motion is pretty cool and easy and I am a rookie...You can even build your own templates but it will take lots of time to get them perfect unless you are a FCP pro. You can also find free templets out there, I always wanted the floating cube with videos on all side rotating. Found it for free...If you buy the templetes your done just drop videos on areas the end. I don't edit like phat-al or twizzle or even a-swift I will just get their edits until I find time to do my own.
djpuma_gemini 2:39 PM - 27 March, 2009
Where did you find the cube one, that's the one I wan't.
Funkytownstopsix 2:52 PM - 27 March, 2009
I just typed in motion cube and found it on a sight where they had free scripts. Shoot me your email address and I will email the script to you. This is for FCP... I am at work so don't look for it until later this afternoon.
a-swift 3:04 PM - 27 March, 2009
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Where did you find the cube one, that's the one I wan't.


The link I posted has a cube. If people want, I can post the cube I made. It works pretty well.
Funkytownstopsix 3:09 PM - 27 March, 2009
Post your cube can't have enough cubes...
Funkytownstopsix 3:21 PM - 27 March, 2009
I think the fire is the coolest thing in motion oh and the that flying blue sheet. Just takes a lot of time if you don't have templates as I am one who hates to read and just trys stuff. It kinda reminds me of after effects but a lot easier.
D-Twizzle 4:04 PM - 27 March, 2009
i just use the free 3d cube from myspace. works great!
dj lad 4:52 PM - 27 March, 2009
Jeez, this is what Motion has on Premiere. You can use stuff like that. I can't find crap like that for Premiere at all. I'm sure you can do it in After Effects though...
a-swift 4:58 PM - 27 March, 2009
after effects has waaaay more stuff on the net for free. It's also way more capable than motion. I will say motion is easier though. And integrates with compressor and fcp more slickly.
Kenny Q 5:10 PM - 27 March, 2009
There are all kinds of tutorials on Youtube with crazy things you can do with Adobe After Effects.
There is a series of them that are done by this kid who doesn't look any older than my son (who is 13).
Not to put down FCS but Vegas and After Effects seem like a great package.
dj lad 6:20 PM - 27 March, 2009
Hmmph. Can anyone point me to a good "videowall" after effects tutorial? I'm pro-level in Premiere, but I haven't really used AE at all.