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DJM-800 - SL1 - VSL Anyone Doing it?

DJ Sound Technique 8:28 PM - 22 March, 2009
Wondering if anyone is running this combo, I have the TTM-57, but really want the DJM800 and wanted to run VSL, curious how well the video crossfade works via midi
Anyone?
Kris P. 8:33 PM - 22 March, 2009
Works amazing, especially on the the newest SL Beta 19030. The will be the combo for the year.
dj red 9:47 PM - 22 March, 2009
flawless even on an underpowerd macbook it ran for 6hrs no hiccups
DJ-Phat-AL 12:02 AM - 23 March, 2009
wish I had access to one to test it out.
@ Kris...
what midi are you using. I have the m-audio UNO.. it worked with my mac and other midi gear just fine.
VJ Justin Allen 12:21 AM - 23 March, 2009
Phat,

I am using that one as well and have had no issues with it while using Serato.
Kris P. 1:15 AM - 23 March, 2009
UNO. I rocked a dope set with 2 DVJ1000s and a DJM800 and the UNO. Midi works really good. Color control and midi is sick.
djchrischip 5:05 AM - 23 March, 2009
quick ? with a djm 800 isnt it the midi out of the djm into the usb in of a laptop?

just wondering...

new to midi...

basically the question is if say i want to use the upfader to act as the upfader would with the 57 in VSL or the cross fader is that possible?
Kris P. 7:21 AM - 23 March, 2009
Both are possible with the 800, as well as assigning effects to the color knobs etc.....Its a great platform. Yes midi out to usb in.
Kedar 11:15 AM - 23 March, 2009
also using the Uno with an 800 over here... the whole system works very well together.
Karl W 1:04 PM - 23 March, 2009
I'm using a DJM800 with an MPD32 and macbook.

The MPD32 lets me use the pads as cue point buttons and everything is assignable!!

It worked flawlessly for me on the weekend!!!!
DJ Sound Technique 1:37 PM - 23 March, 2009
ah man I gotta go get the 800!!!!
Millz 3:23 PM - 23 March, 2009
800 with efx 1000, sl1, m audio uno...works great:)
Charlie Five 4:35 PM - 23 March, 2009
Although I like the 57's functionality with V-SL (how it syncs, crate scrolling, cues, loops in and out, ect) I HATE the crossfader. If you are not a scratch DJ (which I am minimally) it's terrible. <again my opion, no need to slam me> I miss using the 800. Time to get a new one! Happy to see it working out so well for everyone.
a-swift 5:22 PM - 23 March, 2009
The 800 is a bad ass mixer. No doubt about it. Damn, why did I sell my SL-1!!!!
djchrischip 7:15 PM - 23 March, 2009
Wait what's the uno for is it required I really don't mind havin to use the keyboard to set cue points n jump to them thus is it required?
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Nick M 10:22 PM - 23 March, 2009
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Wait what's the uno for is it required I really don't mind havin to use the keyboard to set cue points n jump to them thus is it required?


An 800 only has traditional midi connections (DIN connectors: en.wikipedia.org ). The uno, or similar device, is required to connect this to a USB connection on your computer.
Millz 12:00 AM - 24 March, 2009
Shop around Chris, I have 3 different Uno's (2 in my studio) and one for SSL/VSL. Bought the first 2 at Guitar Center for 40 bux, and bought the 3rd one off ebay for 17 bux used.
Millz 12:00 AM - 24 March, 2009
40 bux a piece
Kris P. 2:08 AM - 24 March, 2009
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Wait what's the uno for is it required I really don't mind havin to use the keyboard to set cue points n jump to them thus is it required?


I you don't mind using the keyboard for cues or switching video you do not need the uno, but for $40 its WORHT EVERY PENNY.
djchrischip 9:21 PM - 24 March, 2009
ok guys not being a dick but i have just gotten 2 exactly different responses which one is correct?
kris p
"I you don't mind using the keyboard for cues or switching video you do not need the uno, but for $40 its WORHT EVERY PENNY."
or Nick M
"An 800 only has traditional midi connections (DIN connectors: en.wikipedia.org ). The uno, or similar device, is required to connect this to a USB connection on your computer."
DJ Cheetoz 9:22 PM - 24 March, 2009
i search in youtube and i found this:
Watchwww.youtube.com

might help you....
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Nick M 9:29 PM - 24 March, 2009
Quote:
ok guys not being a dick but i have just gotten 2 exactly different responses which one is correct?
kris p
"I you don't mind using the keyboard for cues or switching video you do not need the uno, but for $40 its WORHT EVERY PENNY."
or Nick M
"An 800 only has traditional midi connections (DIN connectors: en.wikipedia.org ). The uno, or similar device, is required to connect this to a USB connection on your computer."


What we are both saying in different ways is;

If you want to use the 800 to control video, you will need the uno or similar device.
Otherwise, you will be stuck using the keyboard on your computer.
a-swift 9:32 PM - 24 March, 2009
They are the same response. Both say midi on the 800 is great. Computers don't have midi inputs. They have USB. Get a midi to USB adapter and go crazy.
Kris P. 9:38 PM - 24 March, 2009
Quote:
Quote:
ok guys not being a dick but i have just gotten 2 exactly different responses which one is correct?
kris p
"I you don't mind using the keyboard for cues or switching video you do not need the uno, but for $40 its WORHT EVERY PENNY."
or Nick M
"An 800 only has traditional midi connections (DIN connectors: en.wikipedia.org ). The uno, or similar device, is required to connect this to a USB connection on your computer."


What we are both saying in different ways is;

If you want to use the 800 to control video, you will need the uno or similar device.
Otherwise, you will be stuck using the keyboard on your computer.


Exactly.
D-Twizzle 9:44 PM - 24 March, 2009
i wonder why pioneer didn't put a usb port on their mixer?
a-swift 11:22 PM - 24 March, 2009
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i wonder why pioneer didn't put a usb port on their mixer?


or include a USB to MIDI adapter, since probably everyone using the pioneer midi capability is using a COMPUTER, not other musical instruments.
Kris P. 11:43 PM - 24 March, 2009
Without speaking for Pioneer it come down to what works and what is the industry standard. Some people want midi, some want usb, some want firewire, some want ethernet. There are a lot of options and without going into a long discussion on what's is best, etc, etc, its about what works now and how much $$$ you want to spend on a mixer. The MEP and CDJ400 are great examples of what is to come from Pioneer.
DJ LORA 5:53 PM - 26 March, 2009
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Quote:
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ok guys not being a dick but i have just gotten 2 exactly different responses which one is correct?
kris p
"I you don't mind using the keyboard for cues or switching video you do not need the uno, but for $40 its WORHT EVERY PENNY."
or Nick M
"An 800 only has traditional midi connections (DIN connectors: en.wikipedia.org ). The uno, or similar device, is required to connect this to a USB connection on your computer."


What we are both saying in different ways is;

If you want to use the 800 to control video, you will need the uno or similar device.
Otherwise, you will be stuck using the keyboard on your computer.


Exactly.


Great advise, I'm learning alot!!!(I'm new to video) I have a mackbook pro with 2 usb ports a firewire and a miniport display. I don't really have any idea how to set up my pioneer 800 and my scratch interface to mix videos. Help?
---- With 2 usb ports (one used for my scratch interface and one for my little gismo i bought to convert from digital to analog display) where the heck do I plug in the midi controler coming from the mixer???? huh?
I know for some this question might sound stupid but I really don't know. hehe!!
Kris P. 7:39 PM - 26 March, 2009
Maybe a USB Hub???? (I hate the idea of that.) Midi for the 800 would be usb to midi. Its very easy to hook up.
DJ Mad Matt 8:23 PM - 26 March, 2009
If your gonna run a USB Hub, make sure you get a complient one that will feed a max load of 500ma to each port via external power. A T7 is the way to roll. I have one and it does work great. Comes with a 3.5 amp Power adapter which is enough to feed all 7 ports theire required 500ma's. Here's a link to one. It doesnt matter where you get it, just get a T7 if you need to run a Hub.

sector29.com
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Nick M 8:29 PM - 26 March, 2009
Quote:
Great advise, I'm learning alot!!!(I'm new to video) I have a mackbook pro with 2 usb ports a firewire and a miniport display. I don't really have any idea how to set up my pioneer 800 and my scratch interface to mix videos. Help?
---- With 2 usb ports (one used for my scratch interface and one for my little gismo i bought to convert from digital to analog display) where the heck do I plug in the midi controler coming from the mixer???? huh?
I know for some this question might sound stupid but I really don't know. hehe!!


I use something similar to this on my macbookpro, and it works pretty well:
img.nokaut.pl

I just make sure I plug the SL hardware directly into the Macbook Pro, and use the USB port on this for a midi controller only
DJ LORA 12:14 AM - 27 March, 2009
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I use something similar to this on my macbookpro, and it works pretty well:
img.nokaut.pl

I just make sure I plug the SL hardware directly into the Macbook Pro, and use the USB port on this for a midi controller only


Thank you, I think I'm gonna use this one. The one you're recommending dj Mad Matt looks great but I'm just not sure about more outside gadgets with more power strips, My laptop looks already crowded as it is with the vga to s-video converter and the serato interface. I'll try the "img.nokaut.pl" and report back on how it works. Thanks guys!!!!
DJ Sound Technique 3:02 AM - 27 March, 2009
Man I can't wait!!! My 800 will be here next week and I already sold my 57. I hate to see it go, but I really wanted the 800 in the first place but the video only on the 57 is why I did it. Will report back next weekend
DJ Mad Matt 3:21 AM - 27 March, 2009
Yeah .. It will make things crouded. Thats why I said, if you need a hub. Better if you don't have to.
Henry GQ 6:58 PM - 29 March, 2009
yup, my 800 will be here this monday!
went down to see my boi millz in the burgh, and he proved to me that the 800 is the way to go.. plus after talking to kris p a little...
i just knew had to get with the pioneer(love the efx!)

plus i will be the only one in my city that owns an 800 :)

braggin rights!! woo hoo

only two technical djs in my city, but me and madd matt
Henry GQ 6:59 PM - 29 March, 2009
i think i bought the wrong nano pad tho', i have the knotrol, i just want the touch pad one. damn.
Henry GQ 6:59 PM - 29 March, 2009
kontrol*
Alixx J 6:45 PM - 31 March, 2009
I love using the colour effect knobs for the video effects, i use the fader start buttons for bypass and linking the upfaders when needed... Works an absolute treat. Anyone else got ideas or hints for midi mappings?? Also using the uno.
Kris P. 7:55 PM - 31 March, 2009
What software versions are you using? The newest betas are pretty dialed for the DJM800.
Henry GQ 8:07 PM - 31 March, 2009
i kinda wish that the 800 had kills for the eqs, it would be cool if u hit the eq for the bass/treble/mids and it would kill the them...
that way the the eq for the bass/treble/mids kill would be on the same knob...
u would have more buttons for midi as well :)
a-swift 8:57 PM - 31 March, 2009
i kinda wish that the 800 had kills for the eqs, it would be cool if u hit the eq for the bass/treble/mids and it would kill the them...
that way the the eq for the bass/treble/mids kill would be on the same knob...
u would have more buttons for midi as well :)
Henry GQ 9:12 PM - 31 March, 2009
even tho i just bought one, if they came out with something like that, i would buy it again.

maybe if they put the headphone stuff in another area, and made that for more midi buttons...that would rock even more!

i wonder if some of these companies are starting to realize that djs are gonna look for mixers with more midi functions?
i need more midi buttons :)
Henry GQ 9:15 PM - 31 March, 2009
if they added buttons like the sound color efx buttons(just that zie) it would be cool...
liek do a set of four, like how they have it now, and out knobs at the top

like this...

O O
_ _
_ _


0 0

- -
- -
Henry GQ 9:15 PM - 31 March, 2009
zie = size
a-swift 9:39 PM - 31 March, 2009
i'm considering buying an 800
Henry GQ 9:42 PM - 31 March, 2009
i just got it, and i love it. i only wish it had more buttons for midi. but i can use a nano pad, only problem is having the right case for the mixer and nano pad :/
VJ Justin Allen 9:53 PM - 31 March, 2009
Remember that if you are just using Serato timecode and not playing vinyl or other cd's you also have channel 3 and 4 and everything in those rows. That's extra cue buttons, knobs, sliders and other fun stuff that becomes available.
Henry GQ 9:56 PM - 31 March, 2009
true justin, but there are more knobs then buttons....
i want more buttons
Henry GQ 9:57 PM - 31 March, 2009
they can make the color knobs buttons as well !!
Kris P. 1:30 AM - 1 April, 2009
if I remember the djm800 has 64 midi points....
Henry GQ 2:02 AM - 1 April, 2009
kris, do u know if they are designing any new mixers ?
Henry GQ 3:09 AM - 1 April, 2009
u know another thing they need to do with the 800?
is this...
right next to the on/off button(the button thats orange when lit up)for the efx.. they need to have another button, the purpose of this, u hit it it turn on the effect but once u let go of the button it turns off the effect.
get it ?
because with the efx, u have to hit the button to turn it on... and then hit it to turn the efx off, which is cool, but what if u wanna just do it the efx for a quick second.

damnit they need hire me. all in favor say I
Henry GQ 3:09 AM - 1 April, 2009
I
a-swift 3:15 AM - 1 April, 2009
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damnit they need hire me. all in favor say I


i'm pretty sure they'd hire you as a senior pro dj products designer on the strength of that button idea.
Henry GQ 3:22 AM - 1 April, 2009
dont hate........



appreciate.
Kedar 3:36 AM - 1 April, 2009
i bought an 800 and loved it... and then i bought another... and one last one for good measure... you just can't go wrong!
Henry GQ 3:43 AM - 1 April, 2009
i agree.
DJ Mad Matt 3:47 AM - 1 April, 2009
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damnit they need hire me. all in favor say I


i'm pretty sure they'd hire you as a senior pro dj products designer on the strength of that button idea.


+1 :o)
Kris P. 4:22 AM - 1 April, 2009
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Quote:

damnit they need hire me. all in favor say I


i'm pretty sure they'd hire you as a senior pro dj products designer on the strength of that button idea.

lol...... That and 50 cents will get you a phone call...
Henry GQ 4:32 AM - 1 April, 2009
is that all ?