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PREMIERE ROCKS.... Another Reason Why I Love it over Final Cut....
DjWoody
3:16 AM - 20 March, 2009
I'm at work doing a commercial for a big client of ours. The client provides 39 files with a combination of different formats including .DAT & .FLA (Flash) files. All the DAT Files are 352x240 and the FLA's are 300x250 with different frame rates.
This is a nightmare for FCP!!!
We only use FCP at work. FCP kept wanting to render everything. So I got on the phone with ASwift who tells me to convert the files to ProRes. I do. That works. However, everytime I laid a clip over another, or move them around the audio would get screwed up. Than, if you move a file around or add a transition, FCP would ask me to render. FCP is just too damn picky.
The whole time I had the sales rep sitting next to and I could tell she was getting more frustrated than I was.
I finally said FUCK IT, and downloaded a 30 day trial of Premiere CS4. Everything just WORKED!!! I was able to import the FLASH SWF Files directly into Premiere without having to convert them to anything. My audio didn't get screwed up or moved around. It just worked!!! No rendering needed either.
Than to top it off, I learned something new. I had renamed all my files sequentially to 01_clip,02_clip, 03_clip, etc. When I did an import into Premiere, it automatically laid them out for me in the timeline in ORDER!!!! That is fucken awesome!!!
PREMIERE ROCKS!!!!
In an advertising environment like ours where we get tons of different file formats, Premiere is the clear winner. It's flexibility is amazing and it's ability to flawlessly work with any ADOBE files means that any of our graphic artists can do graphics can do graphics for video without additional training. That is awesome and a time saver...
:-D
This is a nightmare for FCP!!!
We only use FCP at work. FCP kept wanting to render everything. So I got on the phone with ASwift who tells me to convert the files to ProRes. I do. That works. However, everytime I laid a clip over another, or move them around the audio would get screwed up. Than, if you move a file around or add a transition, FCP would ask me to render. FCP is just too damn picky.
The whole time I had the sales rep sitting next to and I could tell she was getting more frustrated than I was.
I finally said FUCK IT, and downloaded a 30 day trial of Premiere CS4. Everything just WORKED!!! I was able to import the FLASH SWF Files directly into Premiere without having to convert them to anything. My audio didn't get screwed up or moved around. It just worked!!! No rendering needed either.
Than to top it off, I learned something new. I had renamed all my files sequentially to 01_clip,02_clip, 03_clip, etc. When I did an import into Premiere, it automatically laid them out for me in the timeline in ORDER!!!! That is fucken awesome!!!
PREMIERE ROCKS!!!!
In an advertising environment like ours where we get tons of different file formats, Premiere is the clear winner. It's flexibility is amazing and it's ability to flawlessly work with any ADOBE files means that any of our graphic artists can do graphics can do graphics for video without additional training. That is awesome and a time saver...
:-D
a-swift
5:25 AM - 20 March, 2009
if the audio was getting screwed up, it's likely that you didn't understand how the audio tracks work.
of course adobe products are going to have better support for proprietary adobe formats!
for anyone who is trying to make fcp edit file formats that are not meant to be edited, you're going to have a tough time with it. it's just not made for that.
fcp has the best support out there for pro acquisition file formats,.. that means formats that professionals acquire content with.
in an environment like woody's, where clients bring in random foobar formats and expect you to be able to edit it,.. fcp is still a fine choice but you better know your conversion programs and you'd better know what you are doing in fcp. otherwise, you're likely to post something like woody did above.
of course adobe products are going to have better support for proprietary adobe formats!
for anyone who is trying to make fcp edit file formats that are not meant to be edited, you're going to have a tough time with it. it's just not made for that.
fcp has the best support out there for pro acquisition file formats,.. that means formats that professionals acquire content with.
in an environment like woody's, where clients bring in random foobar formats and expect you to be able to edit it,.. fcp is still a fine choice but you better know your conversion programs and you'd better know what you are doing in fcp. otherwise, you're likely to post something like woody did above.
DjWoody
6:02 AM - 20 March, 2009
Yup. In my environment Premiere works best. But I still think FCP is King specially after seeing that awesome demo by Apple. I just hate how picky it is. Maybe I just need more practice.
a-swift
7:02 AM - 20 March, 2009
I rate video editing programs depending on what my ultimate goal is:
Find a high paying job editing video
1.) Avid (media composer, or any version)
2.) Final Cut Pro
3.) Adobe Premier
4.) Sony Vegas
Edit Simple Music Videos Quickly And Easily
1.) Sony Vegas
2.) Adobe Premier
3.) Final Cut Pro
4.) Avid
Shoot & Edit My Own HD Footage
1.) Final Cut Pro
2.) Adobe Premier
3.) Avid
4.) Sony Vegas
Videos Edits With The Power of Full Motion Graphics & 2D Graphics
1.) Adobe CS4 (friggin Photoshop & After Effects, you can't beat them!)
2.) Final Cut Studio
3.) Sony Vegas
4.) Avid
Take advantage of forum knowledge, 3rd party plugins & abundant experts
1.) Final Cut Pro
2.) Avid
3.) Sony Vegas
4.) Adobe Premier
Edit Seamlessly on my Macs & PCs without a bunch of hassle
1.) Adobe CS4
2.) Nothing really .. CS4 is it.
Those are the things that are important to me. You can see I've given this a LOT of thought. I'm not loyal to ANY tools. I use Serato because it's the best thing going right now, but trust me, the moment something better comes along, I'll jump ship. Same goes for any of the tools I use. I have no loyalty. Best tool for the job wins.
Find a high paying job editing video
1.) Avid (media composer, or any version)
2.) Final Cut Pro
3.) Adobe Premier
4.) Sony Vegas
Edit Simple Music Videos Quickly And Easily
1.) Sony Vegas
2.) Adobe Premier
3.) Final Cut Pro
4.) Avid
Shoot & Edit My Own HD Footage
1.) Final Cut Pro
2.) Adobe Premier
3.) Avid
4.) Sony Vegas
Videos Edits With The Power of Full Motion Graphics & 2D Graphics
1.) Adobe CS4 (friggin Photoshop & After Effects, you can't beat them!)
2.) Final Cut Studio
3.) Sony Vegas
4.) Avid
Take advantage of forum knowledge, 3rd party plugins & abundant experts
1.) Final Cut Pro
2.) Avid
3.) Sony Vegas
4.) Adobe Premier
Edit Seamlessly on my Macs & PCs without a bunch of hassle
1.) Adobe CS4
2.) Nothing really .. CS4 is it.
Those are the things that are important to me. You can see I've given this a LOT of thought. I'm not loyal to ANY tools. I use Serato because it's the best thing going right now, but trust me, the moment something better comes along, I'll jump ship. Same goes for any of the tools I use. I have no loyalty. Best tool for the job wins.
itchie
7:42 AM - 20 March, 2009
DJ woody this is semi related... swf files naturally pixelate in After Effects and Premiere because they get rasterized if you bring em in as swf files.
no pixelation workaround:
export layers from your fla as a [export movie-png sequence 24bit Alpha], double the pixels (project 720x480, export 1440x960)& save them in one file (sequenced pngS have to be in same folder).
then in After Effects [import-multi files] select all the pngS for one layer(should be as many as you had frames in your fla) and check import as sequence. it brings them all in as one file. shrink to fit 720x480. your layers from Flash will look 10x better in After Effects/Premiere and still have transparent backgrounds.
finally in Premiere dynamic link to the aep file and NO MORE swf PIXELATION. they look almost like they are still vector graphics...
i hope you didn't know this otherwise i feel stupid for saying anything...
no pixelation workaround:
export layers from your fla as a [export movie-png sequence 24bit Alpha], double the pixels (project 720x480, export 1440x960)& save them in one file (sequenced pngS have to be in same folder).
then in After Effects [import-multi files] select all the pngS for one layer(should be as many as you had frames in your fla) and check import as sequence. it brings them all in as one file. shrink to fit 720x480. your layers from Flash will look 10x better in After Effects/Premiere and still have transparent backgrounds.
finally in Premiere dynamic link to the aep file and NO MORE swf PIXELATION. they look almost like they are still vector graphics...
i hope you didn't know this otherwise i feel stupid for saying anything...
DjWoody
8:35 AM - 20 March, 2009
WOW!!! Thanks man! I didn't know that. I have 30 FLA's I need to export tomorrow, and now thanks to you I won't have to do my work twice.
How do you get transparent backgrounds? I tried doing the RENDER ALPHA CHANNEL and it wasn't working. :(
How do you get transparent backgrounds? I tried doing the RENDER ALPHA CHANNEL and it wasn't working. :(
itchie
9:07 AM - 20 March, 2009
How do you get transparent backgrounds? I tried doing the RENDER ALPHA CHANNEL and it wasn't working. :(
in Flash:
1. File- Export- Export Movie
2. in the 'Export Movie' window choose New Folder (name folder & PNG)
3. choose Format-PNG and click save
4. in 'Export PNG' window change demensions to double (res. 144dpi)
5. choose Color-24 bit with alpha
6. check box 'Smooth'
7. click ok
that should give you a PNG with alphachannel for frame in your fla.
in After Effects:
1. File- Import- MultiFiles
2. in 'Import Multiple Files' window find folder select all PNGs in folder
3. check box 'PNG Sequence'
4. click Open.
now you should see the PNG as one file in your media window. and it should still have a transparent background. hit me up if you still have problems...
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WOW!!! Thanks man! I didn't know that. I have 30 FLA's I need to export tomorrow, and now thanks to you I won't have to do my work twice.How do you get transparent backgrounds? I tried doing the RENDER ALPHA CHANNEL and it wasn't working. :(
in Flash:
1. File- Export- Export Movie
2. in the 'Export Movie' window choose New Folder (name folder & PNG)
3. choose Format-PNG and click save
4. in 'Export PNG' window change demensions to double (res. 144dpi)
5. choose Color-24 bit with alpha
6. check box 'Smooth'
7. click ok
that should give you a PNG with alphachannel for frame in your fla.
in After Effects:
1. File- Import- MultiFiles
2. in 'Import Multiple Files' window find folder select all PNGs in folder
3. check box 'PNG Sequence'
4. click Open.
now you should see the PNG as one file in your media window. and it should still have a transparent background. hit me up if you still have problems...
DjWoody
9:55 AM - 20 March, 2009
Awesome!!! One last thing, how do you do a FIT TO FILL? I know you can do it. I think it's called a 3-Point Edit.
DjWoody
10:07 AM - 20 March, 2009
I figured it out. Never mind...
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Make a four‑point edit
1. In a Project panel, double-click a clip to open it in the Source Monitor.
2. Click the headers of the tracks in a Timeline panel into which you want to add the clip to target them.
3. In the Timeline, drag the source track indicators to the headers of the tracks into which you want the clip components to fall.
4. Using the Source Monitor, mark an In point and an Out point for the source clip.
5. In the Program Monitor, mark an In point and an Out point in the sequence.
6. in the Source Monitor, do one of the following:
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To perform an insert edit, click the Insert button
*
To perform an insert edit and shift clips in target tracks only, Alt-click (Windows) or Option-click (Mac OS) the Insert button .
*
To perform an overlay edit, click the Overlay button .
7. If the marked source and program durations differ, select an option when prompted:
Change Clip Speed (Fit to Fill)
Maintains the source clip’s In and Out points, but changes the clip’s speed so that its duration matches the duration determined by the sequence In and Out points.
Trim Clip’s Head (Left Side)
Automatically changes the source clip’s In point so that its duration matches the duration determined by the sequence In and Out points.
Trim Clip’s Tail (Right Side)
Automatically changes the source clip’s Out point so that its duration matches the duration determined by the sequence In and Out points.
Ignore Sequence In Point
Disregards the sequence In point you set, and performs a three‑point edit.
Ignore Sequence Out Point
Disregards the sequence Out point you set, and performs a three‑point edit.
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Make a four‑point edit
1. In a Project panel, double-click a clip to open it in the Source Monitor.
2. Click the headers of the tracks in a Timeline panel into which you want to add the clip to target them.
3. In the Timeline, drag the source track indicators to the headers of the tracks into which you want the clip components to fall.
4. Using the Source Monitor, mark an In point and an Out point for the source clip.
5. In the Program Monitor, mark an In point and an Out point in the sequence.
6. in the Source Monitor, do one of the following:
*
To perform an insert edit, click the Insert button
*
To perform an insert edit and shift clips in target tracks only, Alt-click (Windows) or Option-click (Mac OS) the Insert button .
*
To perform an overlay edit, click the Overlay button .
7. If the marked source and program durations differ, select an option when prompted:
Change Clip Speed (Fit to Fill)
Maintains the source clip’s In and Out points, but changes the clip’s speed so that its duration matches the duration determined by the sequence In and Out points.
Trim Clip’s Head (Left Side)
Automatically changes the source clip’s In point so that its duration matches the duration determined by the sequence In and Out points.
Trim Clip’s Tail (Right Side)
Automatically changes the source clip’s Out point so that its duration matches the duration determined by the sequence In and Out points.
Ignore Sequence In Point
Disregards the sequence In point you set, and performs a three‑point edit.
Ignore Sequence Out Point
Disregards the sequence Out point you set, and performs a three‑point edit.
a-swift
2:13 PM - 20 March, 2009
the PNG with alpha import and fit to fill are all exactly done in FCP the same way.
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