how about ctrl-a to set left deck quepoint and ctrl-b to set right cuepoint? has this been suggesteded yet? if not i will move it to the ssuggestions

What about the posibility to go near the wanted point by clicking on the total waveform, where we want, and after, move the zoomed waveformto precise the point, and then click Set ?
But I don't think it will be a priority in the improvements for the moment, because you can precise by the vinyl control.

PIPEone, some users have purposed to set markers by pressing CTRL (or SHIFT) with 1 to 5 keys for left deck , and CTRL (or SHIFT) with 6 o 0keys for right. Plus, CTRL A is already assigned to Select All function.

Couin

good point Couin!

and we could go further. FS has a "preview" feature that allows you to pre-listen any track using your pc/mac sound card. it would be great if SSL had a similar feature, because we could set markers without being stucked to the SSL box.

we could use zoomed waveform to precise the cue point, moving this waveform with the mouse/keyboard. (like Traktor DJ Studio)

i know, i know, we hate Native software but... the have made some good things mates :P

Hmm. I don't like the preview feature. Kind of gets too n00by. And just think about all the people downloading the SSL software that don't even have SSL. They would be able to use it. Better to open the song in an external Mp3-player, like some people already have suggested.

mmm yes, you are right about first point... the problem about the second one is that we can pre-listen our tracks using iTunes, for example, but we cant set markers on it.

and being forced to plug a SSL box everytime we want to prepare our tracks is quite annoying, specially when you have a huge track collection... maybe this issue has no solution :(

Yeah, forgot about the markers thing.

I absolutely agree!

I've got it--there should be some form of user authentication when the SSL interface is disconnected. Fingerprint/retina scanner maybe? lol

Maybe the authentication could be done by just plugin in the box just once and that's it, from the on it knows you have the box.

yeh without the control records and the black box, i doubt many people are going to dl ssl and actually use internal mode as a serious dj tool.

I want this feature too......be able to prepare my set, to place marker even with the SSL box disconnected.
A simple way to do that is to ask for a code when the SSL box is not connected, and this code can be given through the web with the specification of the computer and the SSL box connected on it.
Than after that, customer have a code and can activate SSL to work with it when the bos is not connected.
Like SpinThis! i don't think that without the ssl box, people will use it a lot, there is lot of free simple mp3 dj mix tool program over the web.

T-One, whats the deal with the code? Why do we need a code anyway? SSL's app is of no use if you dont have the SSL box anyway :-)

This code is to give the possibility to use SSL without the box connected to the PC, have the ability to set marker and make analysis of song. Now a day you cannot do analysis or set marker without the box connected.
So, the code will be given by Serato/Rane server after they verify that you have the box.

How would you set markers with no sound output ?

Good question.....for that, Serato need to implement the possibility in that case (no box connected) to send the sound to the output of the PC, like the preview function under FS.

Ok, and how would you choose a precise position if there is no control signal (CD or Vinyl) ?

With you're mouse....no??

in internal mode...

That code-thing just sounds stupid. Why couldn't you just set markers in an external application that would basically work like a single MP3-player? Sure, people could download it, but you couldn't record the party like you can with SSL.

Maybe it's stupid, but it's way to use SSL wihtout the box connected. I propose the code because i just take the place of Serato team that don't want to see people who didn't buy SSL use it.
It's only a suggestion for the evolution of the product.

I think there not enough precision in this mode ;)

T-One, frankly said, that doesnt make sense. The SSL is worth almost nothing without the SSL box. Why would someone use SSL w/o the box? For what? For mp3 tag editing? Come on, there are other free apps which can do it much bette (-> iTunes) and why would someone w/o SSL box bother about markers, which can only be used with the SSL box anyway?

I have the sound going from the SSL box (RCA outs) to a Roland UA-30 USB audio converter (RCA's in) which is connected to my computer speakers.

You still have to connect the SSL box but you don't have to be near your TT's.

yes, but the subject was "Without SSL box" ...

Really, Couin? I could have sworn I started this thread with the subject "A better way to set markers please".

If you want discuss a subject called "without SSL box", then start a NEW thread.

GMan , I talked about the T-One idea ;)

i agree with T-one, not in the code thing but in the preview feature (like FS). setting markers over houndred of tracks standing in front of you ttables is a pain in the back, believe me. i would prefer sit down in my bedroom, or taking a coffee, or watching tv, or traveling in a plain while im using my laptop to set markers :D

... this issue has been suggested before, i think...

BassChamber that is exactly my idea...setting markers in a coolest way for the body, on my chair in front of my computer...
simply in fact.. ;)

How about an "off-line" mode and have it selectable in the setup screen?

You still wouldn't be able to hear any audio though :( ...but you could analyze all your tracks and set cue markers...well kinda, cus you would need to know the exact time you want them set.

What do you think...yay...nay?

would you be able to just do a simple scrub of the audio, if not full internal mode playback (maybe sans pitch control or something)?

definitely feeling this idea!

Yay, Shaun.

mmm setting markers without sound... it seems not viable for me.

but i agree with offline mode (it would include pre-analyzing, markers, colored labels, tag editing, crates...). as DJ 3pm said, the preview feature could let you listen your tracks using internal sound card but only for a few seconds, or disabling pitch bending... this way nobody would use internal mode without SSL box to mix live sets.

what do you think?

I agree.

To answer your question Shaun: Nay.

well at the very least you would be able to put a marker at the very beginning of the track or at the first downbeat if the track has a long ambient intro. nad lets not forget about being able to overview your tracks prior to actually playing them.

feniks, yeah.. plus the ability to use SSLs built in player/decoder would make it possible to check whether the mp3 is played correctly or if its a dodgy mp3.

nice one...hadn't even thought of that.

do it like how denon does with their CD decks

D you mean with a headphone jack?

na with the hot starts...ala DN-S5000

Regarding Cue points...

If the cue bars (the colored markers) had arrow on them to point to the direction to spin the record to get it to the cue. I've been getting into beat juggling and this would help me cue faster.

It would rock if I could add a ton of cue points to my tracks without the old ones going away. Also, if I could attach bold letters or notes to cues that would be helpful.

It would be nice if the program had some way of determining the 16 or 32 counts, or if it would at least allow me to mark them.

More colors would be good on the cue markers, and also stripes and shapes. In addition it would be nice if we could make our own legend of cue markers meanings. I tend to forget sometimes so I used to write it on record sleves, it would be nice to have a place to store this kind of info. Ex: "Green dot notes the break, Red dot notes the end, green bar is the 1/1 count that starts the song."

Another thing, please seperate cues made on the fly and cues made deliberately ahead of time. I make cues during my show that I wish I could take away sometimes, because they aren't as good as the ones I make ahead of time.

Thanks! SSL Rocks!

Ps.

Bonus round (not cue related)... integrate SSL with Martin Light Jockey so I can build in lighting cues to my music! That would be increadible!

Yeah, I suggested that allready. Would be nice, having text labels instead of colors, cause I end up mixing all the colors up.


Also suggested a similiar request, some sort of BPM grid, so you can see what is going on exactly 16bars ahead or so :-) Mark them would be okay, but too much work. I mean, _if_ we have the BPMs allready, an automatic BPM grid would be the least work ;-)


Very nice suggestion! That would be nice, some sort of default markers with default text/colors.. "hook" "verse" "break" ... etc.