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Song analysis with controller connected?

Roy Levi 10:52 AM - 3 April, 2013
Is there any way to force a song to be re-analyzed without disconnecting the controller and going to offline mode?
phatbob 12:48 PM - 3 April, 2013
You shouldn't need to reanalyse a track unless you want to reset the bpm and beatgrid, in which case you just delete the bpm and load the track.
Roy Levi 1:07 PM - 3 April, 2013
That doesn't seem to work on Serato DJ 1.1.2 (Mac)

* Delete the BPM (a warning is shown that beat grid may be edited)
* Load the track
* The track is loaded with no BPM or beatgrid set
Roy Levi 1:15 PM - 3 April, 2013
I guess this could be related to the bug in loading non-analyzed tracks:

serato.com


A couple of reasons to re-analyze:

* A track proves corrupt, and I replace it with a new file from the source or my main library.
* I mess up the beat grid, and want it calculated again

I think deleting the BPM and loading the track will probably the way to do it, once the previously mentioned bug is fixed. Another way is give the new file a new name.
phatbob 1:27 PM - 3 April, 2013
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A couple of reasons to re-analyze:

* A track proves corrupt, and I replace it with
a new file from the source or my main library.


Then that is not the same file, you're analysing a fresh file and so that should be done offline. A track will always show as corrupt on first analysis, so I can't imagine how that situation would arise.

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* I mess up the beat grid, and want it calculated again


After deleting the bpm, just re-add in the rough or exact bpm manually and a new grid will be created on load.
Roy Levi 1:48 PM - 3 April, 2013
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Then that is not the same file, you're analysing a fresh file and so that should be done offline. A track will always show as corrupt on first analysis, so I can't imagine how that situation would arise.


A file may be corrupt (eg. have significant audible glitches) without Serato DJ detecting any corrupt frames. If you are using Beatport Pro chances are you have seen this before. Similar things may happen if you are using any sources that uses on-demand encoding, transcoding, watermarking etc

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After deleting the bpm, just re-add in the rough or exact bpm manually and a new grid will be created on load.


Very smooth, that works as long as the song already has a beat grid, and even if the song is loaded on a deck. Good catch, cheers!
gullum 2:15 PM - 3 April, 2013
that a thing I don't understand about Serato DJ why not just have an option to analys song while controller is connected. say I only want to add 2 songs to my liberary I have to unconnect my SX then reconnect it to finetune beatgrids if needed. I know most of the time you would do this at home but still. Serato is the only DJ software I own and know of that forses you to unconnect your controller to do that. if you then want to listen to the songs to add them to crates ot playlists you would need an soundcard to play the songs through.

Cases senorie you want to analyse 100 songs you unconnect controller (no sound card) have to wait for songs to finish then connect controller listen make adjustments sort into crates so 2 times the time it should take to get those 100 songs ready to use at your next gig.
Roy Levi 2:22 PM - 3 April, 2013
Well, I can see the point of view that adding a batch of songs is not something you want to do mid-set and the Serato way is simply not to include the option. Personally I think that having to physically disconnect my controller to do so is utterly insane, but that's just my 2 cents.

As for just adding a couple of songs, all you should have to do is load those songs onto a deck. If they have not previously been analyzed, they should be processed on the fly, using the settings currently set in the offline player.

Unfortunately, I can't get that part to work as intended and suspect it is a bug that will hopefully get fixed in a future release of Serato DJ.
Ragman 3:31 PM - 3 April, 2013
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that a thing I don't understand about Serato DJ why not just have an option to analys song while controller is connected. say I only want to add 2 songs to my liberary I have to unconnect my SX then reconnect it to finetune beatgrids if needed. I know most of the time you would do this at home but still. Serato is the only DJ software I own and know of that forses you to unconnect your controller to do that. if you then want to listen to the songs to add them to crates ot playlists you would need an soundcard to play the songs through.

Cases senorie you want to analyse 100 songs you unconnect controller (no sound card) have to wait for songs to finish then connect controller listen make adjustments sort into crates so 2 times the time it should take to get those 100 songs ready to use at your next gig.

You would think that they could take care of this in code. Once you select analyze , the unit would disconnect in the code. Manual disconnect to simpoly do analyzing always seemed kinda crude to me.
Dj Youkai 9:12 PM - 31 March, 2014
They Should have this Feature. I don't see why they can't add it in.
djBooker 2:13 AM - 12 August, 2016
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Personally I think that having to physically disconnect my controller to do so is utterly insane.


+1

Years has passed and still not an option.
shewison 5:43 PM - 23 December, 2016
+1 for this feature.

I'm new to Serato and I'm building up a library using pulse locker.

If I search for a DJ. Dump the results in a case. I have to stop my session to get the BPM and key.

I can't explore the DJ on the fly using the key feature without individually loading each song. If it takes several songs to find one that fits then I've likely run out time to find appropriate phrasing for the mix.

Other than that. I'm loving Serato and my new controller.
UBMIXIN 2:31 AM - 24 December, 2016
Shewison, just make a column like your BPM column, and you will see them. Scroll far right to where you select your columns, artist, song, bpm, you will se one for "key". select it drag it over to where you want and you will see them all