I would seriously advise using hard drives.

I used to have all my mp3s backed up to CD it was impossible to find anything and every now and then I would go back to a CD and it would have become mysteriously scratched despite being kept in a box.
At some point in the future you will want to re-encode your videos and then you'll be scrabbling for the originals wasting time copying them back from the DVDs.

I'm not sure that your HD prices are good, in the UK a 1TB drive can be had for £140 ($280) which is about $0.28 per GB, 750GB drives are slightly cheaper at $0.24 per GB
2.5x the price for a whole lot less hassle is well worth it in my book.

Yeah talk about a waste of time and effort...You can get a good Terabyte HD for less than $300. I'm sure all your originals and converted files would fit. Plus Music and whatever else you wanted on there. I'm sure if you can afford Video-SL, a TTM 57, decks, and a computer to run it all you can afford to get an external HD.

On my home workstation I have about an 8 terabyte RAID set up. I also have like 2 back up copies of my mobile library and full mpeg2/vob's of all videos too.

In the next few months I am going to build and a new workstation with about 22 terabytes of space. Gonna take a while to fill that bad boy up!!

a well stored DVD would probably not have the failure issue, like a mechanical device designed to due in due time.

die*

What kind of machine is that? 22TB is a lot of disks=lots of power required and specialised RAID hardware to join it all together.

and cost a small fortune to keep powered up... damn, the power company gonna send you a thank you card.

It is projected to cost a little over 10K to build. But for I do it will be worth it. I do a lot of audio/video editing/production and I am constantly filling up my current space with new content to sort through or projects I am working on or archives.

I don't fuck around

lol.... Oooooo shit I didn't mean to say $1.00 a Gb for Hd but yea even @ 30 cents thats about 20 cents more then dvds.

Not saying you're wrong but I had over 10,000 songs on data dvds and when I'm HD went down I was happy I had it all backed up on dvds.

As far as scrabbling theres only about 64 speciaity disc (I'm not buying the urban mix sh**) from promo only, how would you not be able to find something? I don't know - I just wanting to see what you guys think. THANKS FOR ALL THE INPUT. I may re-think this....lol

buy in 3's......... 1 your main. and 2 backups that you alternate backing up to. So you are prepared for a failure all the way around.

We really need dual layer writable blue-ray drives and discs to come down in price. It will probably take 4-6 years, but they'll come down to $1 for a blank disc which would hold around 50gb. I remember when blank cd-rs use to cost $7 each in 1997 and blank dvdrs would be over $5 in 2000/2001. Now you can get blank cds for 5-10cents and blank dvds for 10-25cents in bulk.

When that day happens there will be a new format that will probably hold 500gb in 1 disc.

Well I'm poor so I do got to keep cost in mind...lol but it's not the money that's making me say this it's the fact that someone may pull a gun on your ass and TAKE YOUR SHIT! (HD) You don't think dj's are going to be on the hunt for this video shit? I don't know where you live or DJ but I hear about DJ's getting their shit jacked (maybe not at gun point) all the time. I have a G ass homie with me everywhere I go but I still feel like someone may come up.

lol

I'd like to know what kind of case and PSU you're going to run that on. I figure you'll need about 35amps on the 12V line just for the drives plus say 10 for a decent GFX card and then some more for each CPU + an allowance for overheads.

Then the case is going to be massive. The biggest standard 4U cases I've seen only hold around 15 drives and that's not going to be enough.

Then you've got the depreciation, before you have the space half full you will be able to purchase the same drives for half the cost.

I just wanna see pictures of the windmill.

I live in Chicago so it definitely could happen. I bring my 'G Ass Homies' with me also or I just slide right into a Taxi. I actually did get my equipment jacked before though. Problem is that it was from my girlfriend, who at the time bartended where I DJ'd. We got in a fight after work one night and I told her to leave my apartment. Prob is when she left she took all my shit out of here trunk and left it on the street (mind you a busy street in downtown Chii). I'm talking 2 CDJ's, DJM 707, Headphones, and ALL MY MUSIC! (was using CD's at the time). Bitch ended up maxing that Visa out a week later.

Damnnnnnnnnnn...... I make sure to tell my girl I'll pay not to do any of that if we fight...lol

^^^I'll make sure^^^^ Good story.

This is one of my choices for the computer to be built.

www.rackmountnet.com

nice case, looks noisy.

Shouldn't be too bad... I have a while before I build it. Gonna research the best solution. But the cases I have seen that fit what I need are around the $2,000 range... crazy. Most expensive part will be the twenty four 1 terabyte drives I have to buy. The raid card will be around $1,200.

at a minimum you should have at least one backup. since you're in the video game, don't fuck around with a drive less than 1tb. so fow whatever all your shit is stored on now, buy an external 1tb hd. and backup daily and/or weekly.

i'm currently backing up the raw video (vob) separately from converted vids. i have a 320 gb internal drive with some video (not using video live yet) and a 1tb mybook studio. all of this is backed up to an 8tb nas (only 4 tb available due to raid).

I'm still backing up DVD. . . I'll also back up via HD but still want to have everything on DVD.

from Memorex:
www.memorex.com

DVD: How long will DVDs last?
The lifetime of a DVD is estimated by environmental tests that try to simulate the accumulation of damage to a disc from light, heat, and exposure to the normal chemicals in the air. The “death” of a DVD is defined as the point at which the number of errors accumulates to such a degree that simple error correction tasks undertaken by a playback device can no longer retrieve the data on the disc.

Different dyes, as well as different manufacturing skills and techniques, have produced discs estimated to last from 70 years to over 200 years, far longer than the playback technology itself will last. The assumption is that the discs are properly handled and stored away in the dark over that time period.

Real-life conditions suggest that careless handling and heedless exposure to sunlight can ruin a disc in a month or less for poor quality discs. To maximize the lifespan of your discs, use proper storage cases, sleeves or envelopes and only use cleaning products that have been specially formulated for optical discs. Avoid bending or flexing discs, and handle them only by their center hub or edges.

Never store a DVD in a jewel case that is designed to hold a CD. DVDs are produced differently than CDs, and the center hub of a DVD is more fragile than that of a CD. A case that holds a DVD too firmly in place can cause it to bend or flex during removal. Memorex DVD Storage Cases have a patented centering hub that properly holds DVD discs and prevents the circular disc hub from cracking.

Cool Shit, See 70 years is good for me...lol I don't plan on living that long!

Real-life conditions suggest that careless handling and heedless exposure to sunlight can ruin a disc in a month or less for poor quality discs.

Man everything I have still looks new! I don't know about you but I'm not careless with anything I own. . . I even make my kid take care of her stuff. Have you even seen a 5 year old kid with a 2 year old 30GB Ipod thats still almost new??? or knows how to take care of her dvds/Disc games?


DVDs are the way to go. I'm telling you, will see in time when your HD falls and eats sh** and doesn't want to work...haha

That's good to know. I'm not taking a side against you or anything I was just telling everyone else that dvd's aren't indestructible.

personally i have backups on 2 different computers for each of my music and video libraries. dvd's would be a waste of time for me since I make updates to my library on a daily basis and then the old discs are useless compared to my daily backups.

plus it would literally take days to burn all those soon-to-be-useless dvd discs compared to the few hours that it takes to back up everything on HD.

as much time and money spent on DVD for back up you can build a decent size raid system with is protected even if a hard drive fails. And you an access all your files without having to dig through multiple dvd's.

Seriously, storage space is really cheap. For me.. it is not worth going through all the DVD hassle. Burning down a 500GB drive ... to 110DVDs? Changing 110DVDs? I am a diskjockey, but I am not a DVD jockey ;) Plus .. how long does it take to burn 110DVDs? And probably restore them?

No way.

No offens, I try to save money whereevere I can, but DVD is really for those you need to save every single penny, the cheapo section. Also considering time=money... DVDs are a bad deal.

I don't know what a raid system is? But I'll look it up now. THANKS

It's not taking me to long to back everything up on DVDs. . . I'm going to back everything up on HDs too...

I think it's just that you guys have to much music. . . haha but I can see what you guys are talking about. I'm only backing up videos on dvds, not audio. . . it's about 22 video per dvd.

well when your collection of videos gets to nearly 10,000 videos like my collection of unsorted and sorted videos together... you would think twice about putting a mear 22 videos per dvd out for back up.. that would take a lifetime and a WHOLE lot of money

Yes. DVD's are convenient but NOT cost effective. Plus, you can only fit so many on a regular DVD and you're getting dual layer DVD-R's... some serious bucks. Might as well get a couple hard drives to be on the safe side.

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