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Do any of you carry concealed weapons to gigs?

AustinG 1:50 PM - 17 April, 2012
There have been a few murders this year in my town as well as a lot more criminal activity. I'm starting to not feel as safe as I once did. I carry a lot of cash around and no protection. I'm just curious how many of you carry knifes or a pistol and if so, how?
DJ Remy USA 2:18 PM - 17 April, 2012
Yes just make sure its legal in your state to have a concealed weapon. Every states rules are different. Make sure your stuff is legit to, be very careful having a concealed weapon on your person.

I keep a weapon in my car or if its a bad neighborhood inside my flight case never on my hip because my state does not allow it.

Check the establishments rules most dont allow weapons inside for obvious reasons.

Having a weapon is responsibility you have to handle your weapon with care. With that being said I try to stay away from gigs where I feel I need to have my weapon in my flight cases with me.
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:56 PM - 17 April, 2012
Do you run into alota kids with skittles and tea un your area? Lol
AustinG 3:58 PM - 17 April, 2012
Nah not worried about them, they're usually ok. I only ever have problems with the ignorant ones - black and white.
DJ Remy USA 4:06 PM - 17 April, 2012
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Do you run into alota kids with skittles and tea un your area? Lol


Bezzle stop it
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:10 PM - 17 April, 2012
Lol sorry, couldnt figure out an angle to squeeze a hologram tupac joke in there
Pressure Point 4:34 PM - 17 April, 2012
I always carry a foldout knife clipped in my pocket for utility use and self-defense if absolutely necessary. A former police officer told me that you can legally carry these types of knives in public (in my state) as long as you don't identify it as a weapon. In other words if an officer were to ask you if you were carrying any weapons and you said "yes," then YOU just identified your knife as a possible concealed or illegal weapon. The acceptable answer would be to say something like "no, but I am carrying a utility knife/tool." Now if you just used your "utility tool" to filet the unfortunate dude that assaulted you, you'll have much more explaining to do to justify your use of a deadly weapon. But it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 if it comes down to self-preservation.
djdalite 4:48 PM - 17 April, 2012
Unfortunately its illegal in FL to carry a concealed weapon into a bar/restaurant that sole purpose is alcohol sales. If its a restaurant with a bar then that's different but strictly clubs is a no no. Not saying that if shit went down and you had to defend yourself youd be in jail for life, but if you were intoxicated and a situation escalated to a shooting then you'd be in really hot water.

I carry a knife sometimes but for the most part theres a police presence on the weekends, during the week im not to worried. I practice self defense and mma so unless they have a gun...well i'll take my chances
Rick Hodgkins 5:16 PM - 17 April, 2012
Yo Dj Filet in da house, don't fk wit im
DJ Remy USA 5:49 PM - 17 April, 2012
keep it in the car and park as close as you can.
HYDRO MATIC 5:57 PM - 17 April, 2012
What state is the op in?
Audio1 6:26 PM - 17 April, 2012
my penis is a concealed weapon. (DOH)
latindj 6:32 PM - 17 April, 2012
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my penis is a concealed weapon. (DOH)


weapon of ass destruction? LOL
phatbob 6:59 PM - 17 April, 2012
I love you, Americans, but you are all fucking CRAZY about weapons and shit.

Sometimes I'm very glad to live in Europe.
Audio1 7:03 PM - 17 April, 2012
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my penis is a concealed weapon. (DOH)


weapon of ass destruction? LOL
brazzers
DJ Remy USA 7:20 PM - 17 April, 2012
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my penis is a concealed weapon. (DOH)


weapon of ass destruction? LOL
brazzers


oh boy
DJ'Que 7:21 PM - 17 April, 2012
are you trigger happy like Zimmerman
ced_so_thoed 7:34 PM - 17 April, 2012
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I do. But that's because I love my guns. Also, the best time to rob a dj is after the gig. Just got paid. Loading equipment. Not too many people looking around. Probably behind the building. Dark because it's after 2:30AM. Yeah I most definitly have my pistol but only when I'm packing up. Not during the club. Usually, if I know it's a bad area and it's a house party I won't do it or I'll charge more.
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popnwave 7:58 PM - 17 April, 2012
I live in FL and yes, at times I wished I could carry my Glock 27, but as someone else has already mentioned, you can't have a gun anywhere near placed zoned for booze.

I have debated on getting a small knife as a last resort, but I try to be aware of my surroundings at all times when bringing my gear in and at the end up the night when I load out.

And honestly, don't be afraid to call the cops. Hopefully you do contribute to the local tax base in some way. You can always call the non-emergency line for most local PDs if you feel something bad is about to go down and then do your business when the cop arrives.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:58 PM - 17 April, 2012
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my penis is a concealed weapon. (DOH)


weapon of ass destruction? LOL
brazzers


oh boy! ;)


Calm down there killa (nm)
popnwave 8:02 PM - 17 April, 2012
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I love you, Americans, but you are all fucking CRAZY about weapons and shit.

Sometimes I'm very glad to live in Europe.


Ehh in Europe you just get sliced and diced with knives instead of shot. I don't think death by either is particularly fun ;)
DJ Alkemy 9:15 PM - 17 April, 2012
You Americans....with ya weapons. Will you ever learn :-)
willythekidd 9:46 PM - 17 April, 2012
many small business owners keep a weapon in their store. think of your car and your gigs as the same way. not to mention we work late hours, carry a lot of cash, and carry a lot of gear that is probably pretty attractive to thieves.

in most states you can do what is called open carry, it's publicly carrying a firearm unconcealed. you don't need a concealed carry permit to do this. i wouldn't recommend carrying a strap on your hip as your loading your gear out of a wedding while people may still be around, but it is another option. i see this as a good option if your getting a soda or gas on your way back from your gig or you packing up from an empty venue. check your state and local laws.

i cannot carry a firearm where i live and my sherrif doesn't grant CCW's. i would love to carry a firearm in my car but i can't. oh well. i am just very careful if i'm out late or not in a safe area.
willythekidd 9:46 PM - 17 April, 2012
many small business owners keep a weapon in their store. think of your car and your gigs as the same way. not to mention we work late hours, carry a lot of cash, and carry a lot of gear that is probably pretty attractive to thieves.

in most states you can do what is called open carry, it's publicly carrying a firearm unconcealed. you don't need a concealed carry permit to do this. i wouldn't recommend carrying a strap on your hip as your loading your gear out of a wedding while people may still be around, but it is another option. i see this as a good option if your getting a soda or gas on your way back from your gig or you packing up from an empty venue. check your state and local laws.

i cannot carry a firearm where i live and my sherrif doesn't grant CCW's. i would love to carry a firearm in my car but i can't. oh well. i am just very careful if i'm out late or not in a safe area.
Audio1 9:58 PM - 17 April, 2012
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You Americans....with ya weapons. Will you ever learn :-)
bloody wankas
Audio1 9:59 PM - 17 April, 2012
and I am kidding. I don't want no friend across the pond to get all batty on me.
DJ Alkemy 10:15 PM - 17 April, 2012
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and I am kidding. I don't want no friend across the pond to get all batty on me.


No problem squire...lets talk it over with some tea and crumpets. Thats what you think british people speak like right. Im Irish/Welsh anyway so that dont apply to me lol
DTweed 10:49 PM - 17 April, 2012
Hell yeah... I heard my mixes are killer. Not sure if thats good or bad though. Seriously why would you bring a concealed weapon to a gig? Especially if its a private event?
popnwave 11:46 PM - 17 April, 2012
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Hell yeah... I heard my mixes are killer. Not sure if thats good or bad though. Seriously why would you bring a concealed weapon to a gig? Especially if its a private event?


Because people will do anything for money, even if it's a risk to their well being.
DJ Remy USA 1:03 AM - 18 April, 2012
I advocate for SFDJ

Straps for Disc Jockies
DJ Alkemy 1:16 AM - 18 April, 2012
Can you imagine the carnage?...Yo DJ, put on some Lil Wayne.....BANG.....Where the hells Nicki Minaj new track....BANG. I would have bodies piling up all over the place.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:46 AM - 18 April, 2012
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But it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 if it comes down to self-preservation.


THIS has to be quote of the year...
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:49 AM - 18 April, 2012
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and I am kidding. I don't want no friend across the pond to get all batty on me.


No problem squire...lets talk it over with some tea and crumpets. Thats what you think british people speak like right. Im Irish/Welsh anyway so that dont apply to me lol


You spelled Krumpet wrong.....lol!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:50 AM - 18 April, 2012
BTW, I keep the aluminum Louisville Slugger in the van....

You know, in case an emergency Softball game breaks out....
DJ Em Nice 3:04 AM - 18 April, 2012
prepare for the worse but wish for the best.
Johnnynights 3:17 AM - 18 April, 2012
My girlfriend is my weapon jk,i never carry anything but i think is a good idea to carry atleast a lil knife or something you never know.
ced_so_thoed 8:19 AM - 18 April, 2012
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I've done gigs where there was a huge brawl that carried out of the club and then shots rang out. Nothing happened to me but in situations like that you can't rely on people to think "don't fuck with the dj he's cool." Folks that are up to no good are looking for the weakest person or the person with the most to lose. We may not be the weakest but we have the most to lose. It ain't about carrying a weapon to hurt or kill somebody. It's to carry a weapon to make it back home with what you left with.
yep
dj_soo 10:00 AM - 18 April, 2012
yeesh.

americans...
Dj Nyce 10:13 AM - 18 April, 2012
No, no, no. You want to be packin’ like a man Eddy, you’re a man, man. How ‘bout this um…6-inch 3-5-7 magnum?

automatics. Browning 9-mill. Now I know what you’re thinking, that’s got no stopping power.
But that’s got 13 shots in the clip man. That won’t just kill a man, that’ll turn him inside out, pull him upside down, piss on him, read him last rights...
bicedidit 10:53 AM - 18 April, 2012
if you pull it out you better use it ...
Rick Hodgkins 10:58 AM - 18 April, 2012
Then its show time...get paid first...
AustinG 12:06 PM - 18 April, 2012
Like I said, I'm in a shady area. I do bars and clubs not private events. Someone just got stabbed to death a couple weeks ago... I think I'm going to buy something tonight and keep it in my car. I don't drink when I'm playing so I should be good on that.
Mike_P 12:49 PM - 18 April, 2012
Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/
HYDRO MATIC 1:11 PM - 18 April, 2012
I live in Florida as well...I never would advise anyone to break the law but that being said...I always carry mine. PERIOD

Whatever you decide...MMA, knife, gun...get training and be responsible. As well as know the repercussions to your breaking any law as well as using anything to defend yourself.
DJRemixEnt 1:25 PM - 18 April, 2012
ive been robbed @ gun point leaving a gig b4... since then i carry my Glock 27 with me everywhere.

in my state i have to have permission from the owner of the club to carry my pistol. ive only had one venue owner tell me no... but i still carry anyway.

i'd rather walk away alive.
Dj Nyce 2:24 PM - 18 April, 2012
heckler & kock 45 usp tactical with a knights armament H&K USP-T .45 Caliber Suppressor. ftw.

when the UPS-T is filled with water it is only -.38 decibels.
DJRemixEnt 2:25 PM - 18 April, 2012
we gotta get a pic thread going...lol
DJRemixEnt 2:30 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/


you wouldnt be saying that if you were loading up your truck and some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your money.
DJRemixEnt 2:31 PM - 18 April, 2012
and threatning to kill you if you dont
bicedidit 3:06 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/


you wouldnt be saying that if you were loading up your truck and some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your money.



so then what? u pull out and hope he's not built for murder?

you that quick on the draw?

my life/freedom or my $6k dj set up....?
Rick Hodgkins 3:24 PM - 18 April, 2012
That shit never happens in Europe I guess...
Rick Hodgkins 3:25 PM - 18 April, 2012
or Canada...
ced_so_thoed 3:26 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Also, you can't be under the influence of alcohol if you have to use your weapon. That can lead to you arrest. ATF.
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DJRemixEnt 3:29 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/


you wouldnt be saying that if you were loading up your truck and some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your money.



so then what? u pull out and hope he's not built for murder?

you that quick on the draw?


my life/freedom or my $6k dj set up....?


I can tell by this statement u don't have any concealed carry or firearm experience or training...
echa1945mf 3:34 PM - 18 April, 2012
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yeesh.

americans...
echa1945mf 3:35 PM - 18 April, 2012
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or Canada...


or indonesia ... seriously ive DJ-ed in the most conflict regions like aceh (google that) and even the rebel forces are nice to me ...
Mike_P 3:38 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/


you wouldnt be saying that if you were loading up your truck and some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your money.

oh you don't think? I live in LA. I've had a gun pulled on me numerous times. I've been shot at more than once. I've had a knife pulled on me numerous times. I've been jumped. And guess what...I got out of each and every one of those situations by using my brains and not a gun. To take it even further, most of this situations could've been avoided all together had I used my head to begin with. Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint. And say it happens anyway...Some dude comes up and shoves a gun in your face and demands your gear...what's your gun gonna do in your car/case/bag/wasteband? By the time you get to it you'll have a hole in you.
bicedidit 3:45 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/


you wouldnt be saying that if you were loading up your truck and some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your money.



so then what? u pull out and hope he's not built for murder?

you that quick on the draw?


my life/freedom or my $6k dj set up....?


I can tell by this statement u don't have any concealed carry or firearm experience or training...


so based on your scenario, while im loading my truck up, a stickman points a gun in my face but your saying with the proper experience and training i can pull the gun outta my waistline and fire faster than the mugger can pull the trigger? thats some dumb shit.

wait, are you jackie chan?
bicedidit 3:46 PM - 18 April, 2012
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what's your gun gonna do in your car/case/bag/wasteband? By the time you get to it you'll have a hole in you.


I can tell by this statement u don't have any concealed carry or firearm experience or training...
willythekidd 3:47 PM - 18 April, 2012
ooooooo lets please turn this into a gun vs anti-gun debate.
DJRemixEnt 3:56 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/


you wouldnt be saying that if you were loading up your truck and some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your money.



so then what? u pull out and hope he's not built for murder?

you that quick on the draw?


my life/freedom or my $6k dj set up....?


I can tell by this statement u don't have any concealed carry or firearm experience or training...


so based on your scenario, while im loading my truck up, a stickman points a gun in my face but your saying with the proper experience and training i can pull the gun outta my waistline and fire faster than the mugger can pull the trigger


That's exactly what I'm saying....

One of the gun ranges I go to, the owner was carjacked outside of a Detroit casino, and he shot and killed one of the jackers... So it does work... Not only that, but it sends a message to thugs that citizens are armed and that prevents crime... Statistics have proven that
Mike_P 3:58 PM - 18 April, 2012
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what's your gun gonna do in your car/case/bag/wasteband? By the time you get to it you'll have a hole in you.


I can tell by this statement u don't have any concealed carry or firearm experience or training...

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ooooooo lets please turn this into a gun vs anti-gun debate.

Hey I don't give a fuck. Just trying to help keep someone from getting shot because they think they're Charles Bronson.
bicedidit 4:03 PM - 18 April, 2012
no thats not what your saying. those are two completely different scenarios.
if someone car jacks me, there will be moments when the car jacker is....., i dunno..... paying more attention to taking my car then where my hands are which will give me an opportunity...

and your comparing the owner of a gun range to a fcuking dj....
CMOS 4:07 PM - 18 April, 2012
Give up the gear, it should be insured anyways. You can get brand new gear instead of two dead people.
AustinG 4:13 PM - 18 April, 2012
Damn some of your comments are dumb.. Proper training/planning for the worst is better than doing nothing. And yes, you let the thug think he has the upper hand then shoot the mother sucker when he lets his guard down... Most criminals couldn't shoot the broad side of a barn.
Rick Hodgkins 4:22 PM - 18 April, 2012
I am licensed to carry concealed for all lawful purposes, not just protection of personal property and large sums of money.

I hope I never have to use it but never carry at gigs and point blank is a far cry from the barn and hes usually got more than one try.

www.facebook.com

hehe
ced_so_thoed 4:55 PM - 18 April, 2012
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A gun is not the be all end all of conflicts with deadly force. It's just added insurance. If you have the means to protect yourself, why not try? Usually though, if a person has a gun to your head or so close, it's easier for you to get out of the way of fire and grab it and then try to struggle for it if you're feeling ninja bad. If not, just let them rape you of all your stuff. But for those who feel that they have a better chance of defending themselves, encouragment *football slap on the butt*. This is America. People like to rob and steal. We are the one of the most violent if not the most violent industrialized first world country. You have white suburb kids robbing people just for fun and then they grow up and go to college and get a career and never do it again. Some folks see it as an adrenaline rush. It's just how it is over here. *shrugs* Life.
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ninos 5:19 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Can you imagine the carnage?...Yo DJ, put on some Lil Wayne.....BANG.....Where the hells Nicki Minaj new track....BANG. I would have bodies piling up all over the place.

Hahahhahhahahahahahaahhahahahahhaha yes!
ced_so_thoed 5:47 PM - 18 April, 2012
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What does it really matter though if a DJ carries a weapon or not? If it makes YOU feel safe then do it. If YOU feel you don't need to carry then don't. It's all about personal preference.
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Dj-M.Bezzle 5:57 PM - 18 April, 2012
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I advocate for SFDJ

Strap-onsfor Disc Jockies


To each his own
DJRemixEnt 6:02 PM - 18 April, 2012
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and your comparing the owner of a gun range to a fcuking dj....


no matter what your occupation is... consistant training and knowledge of how/when to use your weapon is what matters.

if someone threatens my life, i have an animal instinct to defend myself. i choose to use a firearm as my line of defense.

of course every situation is different, but the philosophy of: it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it- is the best way to go.

if you are in an area where there is high crime rate, and you know you have more of a chance of getting robbed, then by all means protect yourself.
DJRemixEnt 6:09 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???
DJRemixEnt 6:11 PM - 18 April, 2012
My cousin was a cab driver and got shot and killed by some teenage punks who robbed him... he was just driving around doing his job... maybe if he took your advice, he's still be alive today.
DJRemixEnt 6:16 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Damn some of your comments are dumb.. Proper training/planning for the worst is better than doing nothing. And yes, you let the thug think he has the upper hand then shoot the mother sucker when he lets his guard down... Most criminals couldn't shoot the broad side of a barn.

+1
ced_so_thoed 6:51 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???

ay
Sounds like that one politician that said women shouldn't put themselves in situations where they could get raped and stop dressign sexy. So I guess in a DJ point of view, Mike P is saying only DJ weddings and use only a laptop and computer speakers.
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ninos 7:27 PM - 18 April, 2012
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and your comparing the owner of a gun range to a fcuking dj....




no matter what your occupation is... consistant training and knowledge of how/when to use your weapon is what matters.



if someone threatens my life, i have an animal instinct to defend myself. i choose to use a firearm as my line of defense.



of course every situation is different, but the philosophy of: it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it- is the best way to go.



if you are in an area where there is high crime rate, and you know you have more of a chance of getting robbed, then by all means protect yourself.



my line of defense is my fists...


haha.


on the real tho. its about prefrence.
DJRemixEnt 7:31 PM - 18 April, 2012
like Teddy Roosevelt said: "Speak softly and carry a big stick"

my big stick is my .40 Glock 27 with a crimson trace laser
DJRemixEnt 7:34 PM - 18 April, 2012
^ well, that's my second big stick...lol
deezlee 7:37 PM - 18 April, 2012
What's the minimum amount of money that you would kill the robber over? Do you always have that much cash on you when you carry? I'm not anti gun but that's what I'd consider before deciding to carry if my reason for carrying was to protect my $. There are other reasons to carry of course but I'd hate to kill someone over a nights pay.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:45 PM - 18 April, 2012
If I got robbed after a gig id just tell him that it was me djing that night then give him what I earned...odds are hell feel.sorry for me and give it back...mabye donate some if his own for gas money or somethin
Rick Hodgkins 7:49 PM - 18 April, 2012
Or blast you on his witness protection program....lol
DJRemixEnt 7:56 PM - 18 April, 2012
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What's the minimum amount of money that you would kill the robber over? Do you always have that much cash on you when you carry? I'm not anti gun but that's what I'd consider before deciding to carry if my reason for carrying was to protect my $. There are other reasons to carry of course but I'd hate to kill someone over a nights pay.


the money is not the point... it's the fact that someone threatened your life... at that point you have a right to put a stop to that threat.

and whos to say that he wont kill you after you give him what he wants?

i dont know if you guys are familiar with gang initiations... but some gangs require you to rob someone and kill them in order for you to get accepted.


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If I got robbed after a gig id just tell him that it was me djing that night then give him what I earned...odds are hell feel.sorry for me and give it back...mabye donate some if his own for gas money or somethin



the guy that robbed me was in the club that night partying... he waited for me to load up my truck.
DJRemixEnt 7:59 PM - 18 April, 2012
Watchwww.youtube.com

for those of you who dont think you have enough time to draw and use a pistol...

of course practice makes perfect...
DJ Alkemy 8:05 PM - 18 April, 2012
America is fucked on the gun law side of things. Problem solver is a revolver. Stupid aint the word but I suppose if thats how it is then you might have to deal with them situations. Me, I couldnt give a fuck how much my decks, rane 62 is worth. None of that shit is worth getting shot over, especially as it should be insured anyway.
willythekidd 8:18 PM - 18 April, 2012
put tracking software on your computer and your phone as well. check out an opensource program called prey.
2Seven 8:21 PM - 18 April, 2012
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None of that shit is worth getting shot over, especially as it should be insured anyway.

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DJRemixEnt 8:38 PM - 18 April, 2012
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None of that shit is worth getting shot over, especially as it should be insured anyway.

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and whos to say that he wont kill you after you give him what he wants?
Rick Hodgkins 8:42 PM - 18 April, 2012
I hate quoting myself, but here goes...lol^^

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Or blast you on his witness protection program....lol
DJRemixEnt 8:45 PM - 18 April, 2012
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I hate quoting myself, but here goes...lol^^

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Or blast you on his witness protection program....lol


thats y you kill him, so theres only one side to the story...

if my pistol comes out... im shooting to kill... end of discussion
DJ Alkemy 8:48 PM - 18 April, 2012
This gets my vote as "Really...the most stupid thread of the year".
DJ Remy USA 8:55 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Just use your head...you'll never need a gun. :-/


you wouldnt be saying that if you were loading up your truck and some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your money.



so then what? u pull out and hope he's not built for murder?

you that quick on the draw?

my life/freedom or my $6k dj set up....?


8 years in the military in combat arms unit. If I pull it out Im using it end of storey. I would never pull out a weapon without intent to use it. I would never have a weapon in my possession if it wasnt legal.

Never break the law just to own or have a weapon you will loose at the end of the day if you do.
DJ Remy USA 8:59 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Damn some of your comments are dumb.. Proper training/planning for the worst is better than doing nothing. And yes, you let the thug think he has the upper hand then shoot the mother sucker when he lets his guard down... Most criminals couldn't shoot the broad side of a barn.


this is the best way of handling gun point situations. Give them what they want eventually they are gonna turn around and let there guard down. At that point the situation is yours to change or leave the same
DJRemixEnt 9:03 PM - 18 April, 2012
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they are gonna turn around


first thing they teach you in concealed carry classes is never shoot someone while they are retreating... never ever shoot a perpetrator in the back...

you are asking for nothing but trouble...

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8 years in the military


I spent 6 Years in the Marine Corps... and "One Shot One Kill" will be 4ever burned into my brain.
DJ Remy USA 9:15 PM - 18 April, 2012
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they are gonna turn around


first thing they teach you in concealed carry classes is never shoot someone while they are retreating... never ever shoot a perpetrator in the back...

you are asking for nothing but trouble...


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8 years in the military


I spent 6 Years in the Marine Corps... and "One Shot One Kill" will be 4ever burned into my brain.


If the person is predator that rule goes out of the window. Turning around doesnt mean retreating, turning around gives you that moment to turn the situation around in your favor. I instructed combatives level 2 in the army...so yea Im down with protect yourself at all cost
ced_so_thoed 9:34 PM - 18 April, 2012
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So to the people who don't agree with the use of deadly force, if the the perpertrator is trying to rob you but doesn't have a weapon but probably could beat your ass up, would you surrender your property and or fight him?
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DJ Alkemy 9:36 PM - 18 April, 2012
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So to the people who don't agree with the use of deadly force, if the the perpertrator is trying to rob you but doesn't have a weapon but probably could beat your ass up, would you surrender your property and or fight him?

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Duh...you got a hell of a lot more chance dying from a gunshot than you have of a knuckle sandwich. Fucks sake.
Mr. Goodkat 9:41 PM - 18 April, 2012
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This gets my vote as "Really...the most stupid thread of the year".


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2Seven 9:43 PM - 18 April, 2012
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This gets my vote as "Really...the most stupid thread of the year".


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Stop Tracking this Discussion
2Seven 9:44 PM - 18 April, 2012
(As in that's what I'm doing...not being saucy Goodkat + Alkemy)
ced_so_thoed 9:50 PM - 18 April, 2012
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So to the people who don't agree with the use of deadly force, if the the perpertrator is trying to rob you but doesn't have a weapon but probably could beat your ass up, would you surrender your property and or fight him?

yep


Duh...you got a hell of a lot more chance dying from a gunshot than you have of a knuckle sandwich. Fucks sake.

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OK. So you have more chance of doing the same as if you had a gun. You don't know that person's health and you could kill them by hitting them in the right place at the wrong time or if they fell and cracked their head wide open and you could be prosecuted for aggravated assualt with a deadly weapon if you are trained and have a certificate in MMA or boxing. Or the other way around. Get knocked out and your pockets are rabbit ears and your stuff and your ride is gone. To me a gun is like having headache medicine. If you need it, you have it. Simple as that. A gun doesn't make you a man or a better man. Your character and heart should. Sheesh. *cocks Springfield XD 40*
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DJ Alkemy 9:53 PM - 18 April, 2012
Yeah, but if I make a move with my fist when he has only his fists up, the worst Im getting in most scenarios is a punch to the face. I make a move for my gun...WHEN HE HAS HIS GUN ON ME...well, Ill let you guess the rest.

"To me a gun is like having headache medicine. If you need it, you have it. Simple as that"

I laughed and stopped reading after that. Braindead.
ced_so_thoed 9:57 PM - 18 April, 2012
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We live in different societies dude. It's just how it is out here. Just as I'm sure it's different over there. Of course you can be rational but there is always going to be someone who does not think rational. And if a person has a gun on me, I'll weigh the situation if I should act or surrender depending on how I got caught slipping.
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DJ Alkemy 9:58 PM - 18 April, 2012
And in the words of Andre 3000:

"That's all I can say, can't tell the future/ Tomorrow's another day but today, they just might shoot you For your ride/ fuck your pride, hah better be out your seat/Quick and snappy with a happy face before you bleed/ Ask me, if that material shit is worth yo' life/ I don't know about yours but if so you smokin pipes right "
Mike_P 10:02 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???

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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???

ay
Sounds like that one politician that said women shouldn't put themselves in situations where they could get raped and stop dressign sexy. So I guess in a DJ point of view, Mike P is saying only DJ weddings and use only a laptop and computer speakers.
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Talk about retarded! Lol. But leave it to someone who can't compute, "use your head" to come up with such an assanign argument. I'll explain it for you since you can't seem to keep up. If you're loading thousands of dollars of equipment into your car in an empty alley in the middle of the night with no one to watch your back, you're PUTTING YOURSELF IN A COMPROMISING SITUATION. If you're a marine, I'm sure you know not to leave yourself open to attack. That doesn't mean leaving the house, now does it. It just means making smarter decisions that will reduce the risk of someone putting you in harms way. But you know what, homie? You go ahead and take that Darwin award. Lol. You guys can talk all day til you're blue in the face about your little hypotheticals and make-believe situations (oh I'll just wait til he turns around then POW) Lol. When it comes down to the real thing we'll see what the end result is. Like I said. I don't give a fuck what you do. Make more room on the planet for the rest of us. Lol.
DJ DisGrace 10:05 PM - 18 April, 2012
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When it comes down to the real thing we'll see what the end result is.

all these itchy trigger fingers can only have one result
DJ Alkemy 10:06 PM - 18 April, 2012
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When it comes down to the real thing we'll see what the end result is.


all these itchy trigger fingers can only have one result


More like itchy keyboard fingers if truth be told.
erange 10:06 PM - 18 April, 2012
this is a very interesting thread.
bottom line, you are carrying around thousands of dollars of equipment in unsavory places early in the morning with people who are on drugs.
protect yourself!
ced_so_thoed 10:07 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???


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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???

ay
Sounds like that one politician that said women shouldn't put themselves in situations where they could get raped and stop dressign sexy. So I guess in a DJ point of view, Mike P is saying only DJ weddings and use only a laptop and computer speakers.
yep

Talk about retarded! Lol. But leave it to someone who can't compute, "use your head" to come up with such an assanign argument. I'll explain it for you since you can't seem to keep up. If you're loading thousands of dollars of equipment into your car in an empty alley in the middle of the night with no one to watch your back, you're PUTTING YOURSELF IN A COMPROMISING SITUATION. If you're a marine, I'm sure you know not to leave yourself open to attack. That doesn't mean leaving the house, now does it. It just means making smarter decisions that will reduce the risk of someone putting you in harms way. But you know what, homie? You go ahead and take that Darwin award. Lol. You guys can talk all day til you're blue in the face about your little hypotheticals and make-believe situations (oh I'll just wait til he turns around then POW) Lol. When it comes down to the real thing we'll see what the end result is. Like I said. I don't give a fuck what you do. Make more room on the planet for the rest of us. Lol.


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You mad...
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Mike_P 10:07 PM - 18 April, 2012
Btw I've never had one piece of gear taken from me.
Mike_P 10:08 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???


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Don't put yourself in a position to get robbed at gunpoint and you won't get robbed at gunpoint.


MIKE P

how retarted is that statement??? how many ppl get robbed in the US? how many of them put themselves in the situation of getting robbed???

last time i checked, going to work and then loading my car up afterwards was not putting myself in a situation to get robbed???

so i guess i should just sit at home naked in my lazy boy, because stepping outside puts me in a situation to get robbed....

oh wait i cant do that, there are such things as home invasions.... holy shit MIKE P, what should i do now???

ay
Sounds like that one politician that said women shouldn't put themselves in situations where they could get raped and stop dressign sexy. So I guess in a DJ point of view, Mike P is saying only DJ weddings and use only a laptop and computer speakers.
yep

Talk about retarded! Lol. But leave it to someone who can't compute, "use your head" to come up with such an assanign argument. I'll explain it for you since you can't seem to keep up. If you're loading thousands of dollars of equipment into your car in an empty alley in the middle of the night with no one to watch your back, you're PUTTING YOURSELF IN A COMPROMISING SITUATION. If you're a marine, I'm sure you know not to leave yourself open to attack. That doesn't mean leaving the house, now does it. It just means making smarter decisions that will reduce the risk of someone putting you in harms way. But you know what, homie? You go ahead and take that Darwin award. Lol. You guys can talk all day til you're blue in the face about your little hypotheticals and make-believe situations (oh I'll just wait til he turns around then POW) Lol. When it comes down to the real thing we'll see what the end result is. Like I said. I don't give a fuck what you do. Make more room on the planet for the rest of us. Lol.


ay
You mad...
yep

Oh I'm so angry! Grr. Hahaha.
DJ Alkemy 10:09 PM - 18 April, 2012
And I would love the know the REAL amount of times any of you have been held up by gunpoint so much so that it makes you need to pack a pistol?
djvtyme85 10:14 PM - 18 April, 2012
All I will say is if they try me ima need a Cochran hologram cause I might be in trouble
ced_so_thoed 10:16 PM - 18 April, 2012
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And in the words of Andre 3000:

"That's all I can say, can't tell the future/ Tomorrow's another day but today, they just might shoot you For your ride/ fuck your pride, hah better be out your seat/Quick and snappy with a happy face before you bleed/ Ask me, if that material shit is worth yo' life/ I don't know about yours but if so you smokin pipes right "

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like I said, depends if I get caught slipping. I got a daughter and I'm not trying to land in prison or dead. So if I get caught then of course I'm charging everything to the game. But if I see an opening and I feel like I can do something then I might just do it. WIll it ever happen? I hope not but if it does I'll cross that bridge when I get there. I do have friends who have robbed folks before and I'm pretty sure I'm guilty by association. I've only shot my pistol in public once and I was younf but then again it was justified. Didn't hit anybody but I got my point across.
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Dj Nyce 10:43 PM - 18 April, 2012
and remember double taps...we're not aiming to wound.
ced_so_thoed 10:56 PM - 18 April, 2012
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and remember double taps...we're not aiming to wound.

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lol
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Swizzle 11:11 PM - 18 April, 2012
Since we're having fun with Stats and pulling Hypo situations out of our a$$es. Here's one.

Who is most likely to carry a gun?

a. A DJ who uses CDJ's
b. A DJ who uses Technics/TT's
c. A DJ who uses USB sticks
Rick Hodgkins 11:13 PM - 18 April, 2012
B
DJRemixEnt 11:13 PM - 18 April, 2012
D. All of the above except Mike P! Lmao
ced_so_thoed 11:17 PM - 18 April, 2012
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D. All of the above except Mike P! Lmao

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lol
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DJRemixEnt 11:18 PM - 18 April, 2012
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and remember double taps...we're not aiming to wound.


2 to the chest and 1 to the head.... That's what my pappy said
Swizzle 11:19 PM - 18 April, 2012
Can you imagine going through a USB sticks DJ bag?

Lipgloss, Eyeliner, Axe Body Spray, Glock, and some Hello Kitty gum.
DJRemixEnt 11:20 PM - 18 April, 2012
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Can you imagine going through a USB sticks DJ bag?

Lipgloss, Eyeliner, Axe Body Spray, Glock, and some Hello Kitty gum.


Lmao...wow
djvtyme85 11:57 PM - 18 April, 2012
Us DJs sound so gangsta lol
Dazel 12:09 AM - 19 April, 2012
In Canada,when you are a Dj, we have something helping you not getting robe and attack in clubs and bars

we call that bouncer
reggae delgado 12:22 AM - 19 April, 2012
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In Canada,when you are a Dj, we have something helping you not getting robe and attack in clubs and bars

we call that bouncer


For real though. Oh wait, I'm not Canadian, instead I'm born and raised in Oakland CA, and DJ here on the very regular. I might have the advantage of being known throughout my city (not just as a DJ), I might have the advantage of having a look that suggests not fuckin with me, I might have the advantage of networking not just with artists & DJs but with the folks who really have the money in this town, but I have damn sure never been robbed at the club. Hopefully it will stay that way but if not my life outside of jail is worth way more than my equipment. Either way, you're damn right I walk out with a bouncer. And uh, how much equipment are you guys really bringing to the club, anyway?
Lastly, the reality is this: if you have a gun, you'll never get stabbed or knocked out, just shot. No thanks! But we are all adults, make your own decision. I am at least happy that most of the people who are in support of bringing a weapon are at least referring to proper training!
PS: to the poster who said MOST states have an open carry law, that is far from the truth. Concealed permits are also very hard to get in many states, and if you ridin dirty you are putting yourself at far more risk of getting pulled over (since everyone driving at 2:30 is basically a DUI waiting to happen) than you are of getting robbed at the club, whether you're armed or not.
DJRemixEnt 12:24 AM - 19 April, 2012
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If you're loading thousands of dollars of equipment into your car in an empty alley in the middle of the night with no one to watch your back, you're PUTTING YOURSELF IN A COMPROMISING SITUATION


Mike P,
I wasnt in an empty alley... i was loading my gear while my car was parked in front of the front door of the venue, in a suburb of Detroit.

the guy that robbed me was in the club the whole night.

and i wasnt by myself, there were still ppl standing outside waiting on cabs.

after he ran off, i called the cops and they didnt even take a statement, despite the fact that the club had surveillance footage of this dude entering and exiting the club.

(suburb of detroit = an all white police department who didnt give a fuck about a black kid getting robbed) ( they werent too thrilled that a group of black ppl rented out a club in their city to throw a party anyway---but that's a whole nother issue)



So Mike P, tell me what i could have possibly done to keep myself out of that situation.
AKIEM 12:37 AM - 19 April, 2012
Depending on the place, situation, I legally travel with a properly secured Glock .40 to and from my place of work without a LTC. If I feel unloading is shady, I tuck it in my belt. Otherwise I might have a knife or a can of pepper foam.
popnwave 5:04 AM - 19 April, 2012
What some of you guys don't understand.. if someone has NO respect for $$$$$ in gear or cash, do you really think they have respect for human life as well?

People get hurt and maimed by other weapons like knives and clubs, or whatever you can get you hands on around the world. A gun is just a tool like anything else. No, I would not blast a guy who wants a mixer, but if for some reason he decides he doesn't want a witness anymore, you bet your ass I am going to take him out before he does me. My family (with a baby on the way) takes priority #1 over all else. That means making a clean/clear decision as to what my safety situation is any either 1) get away if possible and let the adjusters write me a check or 2) stop the situation from degrading further and possibly losing my life.

Anyway, back to tagging videos!
dj poisonous handz 5:25 AM - 19 April, 2012
yes.once brought my ruger 556c to the club in my trench.kept it under the amps.lets just say i didnt get requests that day
selectajay 7:49 AM - 19 April, 2012
i think a lil protection is better to have & not need then to need & NOT have..here are a few reasons why..
Serato $500
Mac $1500
2 x1200s = $1000
speakers & subs = $2000 lights etc..$1000
Life= PRICELESS!
and the $money$ in your pocket from the gig..if you're not packing some "heat" doing "mobile" gigs you are at risk & careless!
btw.. a bouncer is no use to a DJ after the club while packing up..so yea, i support the idea of bearing fire arms for protection OR any weapon for these reasons while doing gigs..if not you're just an easy target in the US.
AKIEM 8:21 AM - 19 April, 2012
A lot of DJs are easy marks at the end of the night.
period.
ced_so_thoed 10:04 AM - 19 April, 2012
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I've done gigs where there was a huge brawl that carried out of the club and then shots rang out. Nothing happened to me but in situations like that you can't rely on people to think "don't fuck with the dj he's cool." Folks that are up to no good are looking for the weakest person or the person with the most to lose. We may not be the weakest but we have the most to lose. It ain't about carrying a weapon to hurt or kill somebody. It's to carry a weapon to make it back home with what you left with.
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echa1945mf 10:12 AM - 19 April, 2012
i wanna bring a bazooka to my gig, anybody requested shit imma start to demolish that club with a rocket launcher
WarpNote 12:38 PM - 19 April, 2012
What a thread, I'm glad I live in a peaceful part of the world where guns aren't really common.
DJ DisGrace 1:06 PM - 19 April, 2012
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What a thread, I'm glad I live in a peaceful part of the world where guns aren't really common.

too soon?
WarpNote 1:17 PM - 19 April, 2012
There is no way you could legally carry loaded firearms in a norwegian city.
And there is no culture for selling guns at the "supermarket", if you know what I mean...

Basically, in this part of the world you really don't need firearms to protect yourself.
DJRemixEnt 1:24 PM - 19 April, 2012
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What a thread, I'm glad I live in a peaceful part of the world where guns aren't really common.


i really wish it were that way here in the states... but that's just wishful thinking!

out of all the countries ive been to while on military duty... the United States and Iraq, were the only 2 places where i really felt the need to watch my back and carry a firearm on my person.
kristoff1986 2:55 PM - 19 April, 2012
i just had to sign in to quote this

"To me a gun is like having headache medicine. If you need it, you have it. Simple as that"


and say congratulations, this is hands down the dumbest sentence on the whole internet
DJ NewYork 3:12 PM - 19 April, 2012
This discussion sounds ridiculous to me. If you feel that unsafe to perform at a particular venue where your contemplating on carrying protection, then the event isn't worth doing in the first place. You should reevaluate yourself and think about what you were thinking of doing and look at where do you really want to go in life as a human-being and as a DJ and head there. It's a lot harder to fight for whats right mentally than physically but you'll be in a better place & surrounded by real people who are passionate in the same things as you in life if you do that.
AKIEM 3:19 PM - 19 April, 2012
Its not inside the place, its in the ally outback at the end of the night.
ced_so_thoed 3:24 PM - 19 April, 2012
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I guess some of us interact with the good and the bad party goers. Like I said. This is America. Crime is the culture here.
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djdalite 5:18 PM - 19 April, 2012
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This discussion sounds ridiculous to me. If you feel that unsafe to perform at a particular venue where your contemplating on carrying protection, then the event isn't worth doing in the first place. You should reevaluate yourself and think about what you were thinking of doing and look at where do you really want to go in life as a human-being and as a DJ and head there. It's a lot harder to fight for whats right mentally than physically but you'll be in a better place & surrounded by real people who are passionate in the same things as you in life if you do that.

it wont sound so ridiculous after you get held up with a knife/gun in your face
reggae delgado 6:17 PM - 19 April, 2012
How many of us have actually been jacked leaving a club after working??


And to respond to the person saying that a bouncer is no good to a dj who is loading up after the club, you need to develop a better relationship with your bouncers, homie! ANY extra person around is a deterrent for most thieves.

Another thing to remember is that most thieves are cowards. They want what's easy. That's why they don't have jobs, they think a few thefts will do it for them. There are hundreds of thousands of people to rob, they will pick the easiest one. That's why car alarms, house alarms, etc work. Y'all actin like there are hundreds of jackers who leave the house when the club lets out just lookin for DJs.
ced_so_thoed 6:21 PM - 19 April, 2012
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So to answer the orginal question, some djs carry and some don't. If you choose to, check your state laws and get proper training and do not think you are going to be a hero.
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AustinG 6:50 PM - 19 April, 2012
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What's the minimum amount of money that you would kill the robber over? Do you always have that much cash on you when you carry? I'm not anti gun but that's what I'd consider before deciding to carry if my reason for carrying was to protect my $. There are other reasons to carry of course but I'd hate to kill someone over a nights pay.


At least 1k at all times, yeah its worth it.
AustinG 7:10 PM - 19 April, 2012
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they are gonna turn around


first thing they teach you in concealed carry classes is never shoot someone while they are retreating... never ever shoot a perpetrator in the back...

you are asking for nothing but trouble...


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8 years in the military


I spent 6 Years in the Marine Corps... and "One Shot One Kill" will be 4ever burned into my brain.


My dad was trained by a vietnam vet green beret. He studied several artforms of martial arts including kung fu and also learned a lot about survival. The dude trained him in hand to hand, knifes, and firearms. He taught to evade first, fight last. If you have to fight, fight to kill.

So yeah, i'm not talking about shooting someone in the back either. You have one shot, better believe that I know how to make it count.
AustinG 7:13 PM - 19 April, 2012
This could happen to you and any given moment... are you prepared? Watchwww.youtube.com
DJUnknown 7:23 PM - 19 April, 2012
The dude is obviously a Juvenile fan :-)
DJ Alkemy 7:26 PM - 19 April, 2012
Prepared for what. That guy was a tool who obviously done that knowing all the people in the background had his back if it really kicked off. Pricks like that are just wastes of air.
DJ Alkemy 7:27 PM - 19 April, 2012
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The dude is obviously a Juvenile fan :-)


Haha...Just got that lol
Rick Hodgkins 7:53 PM - 19 April, 2012
Better have more than 7 rounds in that case...
CMOS 7:54 PM - 19 April, 2012
Guns are for Pussies who cant fight.


Yeah i said it.
ninos 7:56 PM - 19 April, 2012
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Guns are for Pussies who cant fight.





Yeah i said it.

HAHAHAHHA YES
Watchwww.youtube.com
ced_so_thoed 9:38 PM - 19 April, 2012
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Guns are for Pussies who cant fight.


Yeah i said it.

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So the dude that is 5'6 120lbs getting his ass slid across the floor by a 6'3 230lbs guy is a pussy for using a gun?
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DJ Remy USA 9:55 PM - 19 April, 2012
That Dude had no business being around that type of atmosphere if he is not cut out to defend himself. That being said he should have backed his shit up because had he started to fight back they woulda jumped him. That was classic ghetto right there. I don't get why he let him just pound on him like that. He needs new friends cause his boys in the car did not have his back.
DJ Alkemy 11:23 PM - 19 April, 2012
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Guns are for Pussies who cant fight.





Yeah i said it.


ay

So the dude that is 5'6 120lbs getting his ass slid across the floor by a 6'3 230lbs guy is a pussy for using a gun?

yep


Your damn right he is

ay

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DJRemixEnt 11:42 PM - 19 April, 2012
i live in north carolina and the law states that if you provoke a fight, no matter what happens... if you use deadly force, you're gonna get charged with murder.

so no shooting in the back
and no provoking

if your carrying concealed and your walking around starting shit... then you dont need to have a weapon on you.

that firearm only comes out if you are defending yourself or others from death, rape, or great bodily harm...

other than those situations, you should run or fist fight your way out.
ced_so_thoed 12:00 AM - 20 April, 2012
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Guns are for Pussies who cant fight.





Yeah i said it.


ay

So the dude that is 5'6 120lbs getting his ass slid across the floor by a 6'3 230lbs guy is a pussy for using a gun?

yep


Your damn right he is

ay

yep

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smh
well, good thing I'm gaining weight and training MMA. Went from 175 to 213 in a year.
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Nicky Blunt 12:11 AM - 20 April, 2012
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You Americans....with ya weapons. Will you ever learn :-)
bloody wankas


hahahahaha
DJ Alkemy 12:57 AM - 20 April, 2012
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Guns are for Pussies who cant fight.











Yeah i said it.




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So the dude that is 5'6 120lbs getting his ass slid across the floor by a 6'3 230lbs guy is a pussy for using a gun?



yep




Your damn right he is



ay



yep


ay

smh

well, good thing I'm gaining weight and training MMA. Went from 175 to 213 in a year.

yep


If your getting beat in a fight there is no shame in that as long as you hold your own and give it the best you got. The moment you pull out a gun in a fist fight. You are a pussy and a coward.
reggae delgado 1:39 AM - 20 April, 2012
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This could happen to you and any given moment... are you prepared? Watchwww.youtube.com


That shit is not going to happen to any one at any given moment. It's gunna happen a few times a year across the country, and most times it's gunna end up with a lot of people gettin hit by a car. A car can be a much more effective deadly weapon than a gun anyway. If you are worried about random people whippin your ass at a 7-11 at "any given moment" you need a psychologist, not a gun.
AKIEM 3:58 AM - 20 April, 2012
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This could happen to you and any given moment... are you prepared? Watchwww.youtube.com
That shit is not going to happen to any one at any given moment. It's gunna happen a few times a year across the country, and most times it's gunna end up with a lot of people gettin hit by a car. A car can be a much more effective deadly weapon than a gun anyway. If you are worried about random people whippin your ass at a 7-11 at "any given moment" you need a psychologist, not a gun.


that shit would never happen to me, for so many reasons.

I have been robbed at gunpoint where a pistol would have done no good, or if I was able to use it would have been shooting a guy in the back over nothing, or got shot myself

But, where Im from Ive got certain types of beef where I might need a weapon.

Im more worried about getting jacked for equipment at the end of the night some place. I know exactly when I am in the weakest and most easily taken advantage of position. I also make sure there is no possible way that I am being followed home.

If you want to avoid being jacked, think like a criminal.

And like I said, some of the best venues have the shadiest load outs.
Nicky Blunt 9:55 AM - 20 April, 2012
^^ this ive played some real upscale venues that have the straight up look of the street batmans dad died in! LOL
ced_so_thoed 10:53 AM - 20 April, 2012
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So the dude that is 5'6 120lbs getting his ass slid across the floor by a 6'3 230lbs guy is a pussy for using a gun?



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well, good thing I'm gaining weight and training MMA. Went from 175 to 213 in a year.

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If your getting beat in a fight there is no shame in that as long as you hold your own and give it the best you got. The moment you pull out a gun in a fist fight. You are a pussy and a coward.
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Your damn right he is



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well, good thing I'm gaining weight and training MMA. Went from 175 to 213 in a year.

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well, good thing I'm gaining weight and training MMA. Went from 175 to 213 in a year.

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If your getting beat in a fight there is no shame in that as long as you hold your own and give it the best you got. The moment you pull out a gun in a fist fight. You are a pussy and a coward.

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we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. I knew people that used their size to their advantage and would bully and intimidate other people because they were roided up but never made it to the NFL. Dude looking like Brock Lesnar and he's picking on dudes that's clearly at a disadvantage. You say it's being a pussy I say it would be telling the dude to get the fuck off me.
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moment of silence for Bruce Wayne's parents.
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Rick Hodgkins 11:06 AM - 20 April, 2012
^ was that the mother of all quotes or what
jpg32123 9:17 AM - 22 April, 2012
Read this thread but seen no mention of PEPPER SPRAY or expandable batons. They make pepper sprays from key chain size all the way up to mini fire extinguisher. If I was loading out in the club environment I'd be damm sure to reach for some spray, a baton or utility knife long before I reached for a gat.

However, if i turned a corner with both hands full of gear and some stick up kids with a gun got the drop on me I'd be calm and not escalate the situation reachin for shit.

The key is not putting yourself in a situation by yourself like that. Titty dancers have escorts out every nite and they aint carrying shit and they work out and do cardio kickbox and yoga all day.

Once the stick up kids back was turned, and I was enough of a trained badass to squeeze a trigger, I should be able to first knee cap with the baton and hit' em with pepper spray if it was really worth it.

From where I'm coming from its just not worth it to use a gun. I'd rather make an insurance claim than catch another court case and PAY for another lawyer(trust me lawyers rape you more).

The only time I see that it's worth being "Tried by twelve or carried by six" is when a columbine crazed gunman has proven to be on a killing spree. Then I hope my neighbor IS strapped up. I will be duck and covering... but not afraid to go out with a fight.

I just think if you are man enough to carry a gun, you should reach for the pepper spray FIRST. This whole Trevon Martin thing would have been nothing if Zimmerman the "badass" had been packing spray and not a gun.

This whole carring a gun makes you a badass is bullshit. I've gotten more concussions, scars and shit from playing soccer than I've ever gotten from fights. And trust me I've gotten my ass kicked
AKIEM 9:20 AM - 22 April, 2012
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DJRemixEnt 6:30 PM - 22 April, 2012
carrying a firearm has nothing to do with being a badass... so police are trying to be badasses?

like its been said a million times, if someone validly threatens your life, then u have an animal right to take theirs. keyword is valid, the treyvon martin case has nothing to do with carrying a firearm.

it has everything to do with a jackass not having the proper training and self restraint/dicipline to carry a firearm.

if u do the research, u will see plenty of victims who use lethal force, in a valid situation, who have no charged pressed against them.

armed citizens = lower violent crime rates....
now thats a proven fact
DJRemixEnt 6:32 PM - 22 April, 2012
and lets be real, spraying a thug in the face with pepper spray...while his finger is on the trigger...haha thats funny...

eliminate the threat- one shot one kill
RogerRabbit 6:37 PM - 22 April, 2012
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Man you scared of cops and you scared of people who are not cops.. You got it bad son...
jpg32123 8:10 PM - 22 April, 2012
I believe in the second amendment. But I've also seen first hand the effectiveness of pepper spray. I've seen my buddy get into an all out brawl downtown that had the cops simply laugh as they pulled out their pepper spray and quickly stopped the fight. What would have happened if they had gone in with guns drawn physically trying to separate two drunken crazed fighters?

I'm not telling anyone not to carry a gun. I'm just saying in most situations pepper spray should be your first choice of defense(Trayvon Martin). Discharging a handgun in an urban environment should be your option of last resort. Either way your best defense is using your brain along with your eyes and ears. Don't put yourself alone in a shady alley with your hands full of gear.

If you carry a gun I'm fine with that. I just think you should carry some spray too.
AKIEM 10:01 PM - 22 April, 2012
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Man you scared of cops and you scared of people who are not cops.. You got it bad son...


how am I "scared"?
selectajay 11:13 PM - 22 April, 2012
this is a great discussion..im enjoying it!! while listening to some joints..lol
Watchwww.youtube.com
DJ DisGrace 11:14 PM - 22 April, 2012
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this is a great discussion..im enjoying it!! while listening to some joints..lol
Watchwww.youtube.com

lol
Watchwww.youtube.com
selectajay 11:15 PM - 22 April, 2012
DJs yall better recognize its real out here..no joke
peppa spray!???..i dont think so! lol
RogerRabbit 11:18 PM - 22 April, 2012
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Man you scared of cops and you scared of people who are not cops.. You got it bad son...


how am I "scared"?

Carrying weapons especially if not an officer - indicates a fear of....
jpg32123 12:42 AM - 23 April, 2012
Carrying around hand guns is "No Joke". Without years of training I think you're just as likely to pull a Plaxico Burress and shoot yourself as you are to actually shoot an attacker. Plus gun laws in many towns , states are very F' up and make you an instant target from the police (Lil Wayne and Prodigy both did time for guns)

That being said I still defend your right to carry. I just wish everyone's first response was to grab the pepper spray, and THEN reach for the gun if necessary. It seems many are walking around in america with hand guns, little training, and an itchy trigger finger. Hang guns are not the ONLY nor the BEST way to defend oneself in many situations.
selectajay 12:53 AM - 23 April, 2012
i understand your reasoning@ jpg3213..but in the real world, it is what it is..besides peppa spray in NYC is ilegal. unless its for the use of an "animal attack" (not sure if its changed) though.
jpg32123 1:14 AM - 23 April, 2012
While using pepper spray may be illegal in many places where guns are restricted, I don't anyone has done any hard time for pepper spray ( I could be wrong though). Meaning I don't think cops can just arrest you for having pepper spray and you wind up doing years in jail like what happened to Wayne, Burress, and Prodigy.
reggae delgado 1:42 AM - 23 April, 2012
I still wanna know how many of you have been jacked leaving the club, and if you have did the thief have a gun. I'm having a hard time believing that Oakland is so much safer than where ever you folks are lol
AKIEM 3:23 AM - 23 April, 2012
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Man you scared of cops and you scared of people who are not cops.. You got it bad son...


how am I "scared"?

Carrying weapons especially if not an officer - indicates a fear of....



Fear of what?

What it actually indicates is understanding my flesh is not bullet proof, won't deflect a knife, or repel a blow from a bat.

Calling that 'fear' is just silly. I guess you leave your house unlocked and your equipment with a spot light in the front window.
AKIEM 3:25 AM - 23 April, 2012
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pepper spray is legal in every state with some small differences in regulation, size strength, marking on container.

I've been mace a couple times
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:21 AM - 23 April, 2012
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AKIEM 7:33 AM - 23 April, 2012
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like I said - you never even been in a fight have you?
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like I said - you never even been in a fight have you?


***Blank Stare***

Plenty of times, but not needing guns or pepper spray....
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like I said - you never even been in a fight have you?


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Plenty of times, but not needing guns or pepper spray....


ok, so nothing that bad then
DJRemixEnt 11:27 AM - 23 April, 2012
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Plenty of times, but not needing guns or pepper spray....


If your in a fist fight you should never need a weapon...

you guys are missing the whole point of this conversation... the purpose of carrying a firearm is to protect your life... robbery @ gunpoint, carjacking, getting raped, someone coming at you with a chainsaw/axe, columbine style shooting... these are all valid reasons to carry and use a firearm....

getting into a fist fight is not a reason to EVER use a firearm...

smh... maybe it is a good idea for some of you to NOT carry a firearm
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:41 AM - 23 April, 2012
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like I said - you never even been in a fight have you?


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Plenty of times, but not needing guns or pepper spray....


ok, so nothing that bad then


You asked if I've even been in a FIGHT, (Real) and I was clarifying that I obviously have - but during times that dudes showed their manhood with their fists, not their ability to shoot blindly into a crowd while retreating....

Then as time went on, the ol' "Nobody f*cks with the DJ" thing took over, and eventually, I realized that instead of being "Superbad", that I actually had more to lose than ANYBODY as most would occur at parties I was DJ'ing...

All I was eventually concerned about was somone knocking the DJ table over, or dripping blood or DNA on my speakers.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:42 AM - 23 April, 2012
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If your in a fist fight you should never need a weapon...


This ^^^ and it's mad corny that this way of thinking is out the window.
AKIEM 12:13 PM - 23 April, 2012
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You asked if I've even been in a FIGHT, (Real) and I was clarifying that I obviously have - but during times that dudes showed their manhood with their fists, not their ability to shoot blindly into a crowd while retreating....


I mentioned Ive ben maced - your issue was what?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:01 PM - 23 April, 2012
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I mentioned Ive ben maced - your issue was what?


I know I'm going to regret this, but WHO maced you, and why?

***sigh***
AKIEM 1:29 PM - 23 April, 2012
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I mentioned Ive ben maced - your issue was what?


I know I'm going to regret this, but WHO maced you, and why?

***sigh***


***SIGH***
how about we deal with what your issue is first
syh - for what?
Dj Ready Red 2:16 PM - 23 April, 2012
Nope I have no need and I'm well protected by other's when I spin
jpg32123 8:55 PM - 23 April, 2012
Hey Akiem,

Props for carrying mace and responsibly carrying a gun. Can I take a guess and say that you were maced in a fight downtown by cops. I've seen fights broken up by mace before and when I've been arrested I've seen cats still rubbing their eyes an hour later. I've never been sprayed before though.
Elab 9:27 PM - 23 April, 2012
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that stuff burn its feel like they put some piri piri in the spry and your face is on fire
you have no choice but to rub half the time you cant see


piri piri is african chile
Elab 10:09 PM - 23 April, 2012
only weapon i need is a blunt or three and a lighter u f... around ill blow some smoke in u r face. now that is what i call lethal weapon you can catch mad cow disease if you close enough
SUBSTANCE 10:36 PM - 23 April, 2012
Pictures of your gats + DJ gear please...
DJKOOPA77 11:14 PM - 23 April, 2012
I carried a XDM .45 service concealed for 9 hours a night 4 nights a week for 3 years.....still do but i live in Birmingham, Al
AKIEM 1:59 AM - 24 April, 2012
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Props for carrying mace and responsibly carrying a gun. Can I take a guess and say that you were maced in a fight downtown by cops. I've seen fights broken up by mace before and when I've been arrested I've seen cats still rubbing their eyes an hour later. I've never been sprayed before though.


Only time I was maced by cops was exiting a party after they told the lingerers to go home. They will shoot a mist over the crowd or whatever - but this was a splatter on me as I came out the door - maybe a mistake, I dont know.

But the first time was over graffiti beef - kid new he would catch a beat down (as he eventually did) but this time he and his little cohort was scared so he pulls out mace and squirts me.
[nm]
DJRemixEnt 8:02 AM - 24 April, 2012
Alright, first set of pics...

guns:

.40 Glock 27 w/laser grip (summer Carry)
.40 Glock 23 (winter Carry)
.38 special Smith & Wesson Body Guard w/laser (carry when ultimate concealment is needed)
s1172.photobucket.com

gear:
Numark TTX's
MBP 17" early 2011
Dicers
Ipad w/Touch OSC
Shure pg58 mic
rane ttm57
ortfon CC Scratch Carts
Technics: RP-DJ1200 Headphones
seagate 4tb external hd
DJRemixEnt 8:04 AM - 24 April, 2012
forgot the link:
s1172.photobucket.com
gear:
Numark TTX's
MBP 17" early 2011
Dicers
Ipad w/Touch OSC
Shure pg58 mic
rane ttm57
ortfon CC Scratch Carts
Technics: RP-DJ1200 Headphones
seagate 4tb external hd
AustinG 3:15 PM - 24 April, 2012
Nice pistols, I think I'm gonna buy a glock .40 I love the .38 special, my favoirte gun.
DJ Alkemy 4:06 PM - 24 April, 2012
And just when we thought the thread couldnt get any more retarded lol
HYDRO MATIC 4:17 PM - 24 April, 2012
Just cuase you don't like Guns ...makes this retarded how?
selectajay 4:46 PM - 24 April, 2012
@DJ Alkemy..whats retarded about this thread??
I happen to think its a great conversation because the reality is..
some of us do own firearms & carry..again whats retarded about this discussion??
reggae delgado 4:46 PM - 24 April, 2012
Still curious as to who has actually been jacked after a gig... so far no one. So is this really a case of people experiencing dangerous situations that call for guns or is it gun enthusiasts & paranoids networking?
DJ Alkemy 4:49 PM - 24 April, 2012
Its retarded posting pics of your gun collection.
AustinG 4:52 PM - 24 April, 2012
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Its retarded posting pics of your gun collection.


And you're retarted for posting on something where nobody cares for your opinion. stfu
DJ Alkemy 4:55 PM - 24 April, 2012
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And you're retarted for posting on something where nobody cares for your opinion. stfu


Dont shoot! hahahaha
selectajay 5:02 PM - 24 April, 2012
man!.. yall getting off wayyy off topic lol
AKIEM 5:04 PM - 24 April, 2012
did you know "retarded" is derogatory
AKIEM 5:08 PM - 24 April, 2012
sixxx 5:24 PM - 24 April, 2012
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Man. That's just retarded. How is that even possible? :P
HYDRO MATIC 6:26 PM - 24 April, 2012
Been harrased, followed, and "escorted"

None of which could have been avoided really...on the last even as I opened up my trunk to show my record cases...I pulled my (then) .22

And the rest is a police report.
HYDRO MATIC 6:31 PM - 24 April, 2012
And for the record I train MMA 3 times a week minimum... Not to be a bad ass just so I'm not a fat ass! Lol
DJ Remy USA 7:50 PM - 24 April, 2012
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Never been jacked but I think it's a precaution that some of us are taking. Nothing to do with being paranoid either eventho when I'm in the hood me being light skinned I have gotten into some scuffles because of dudes testing me to see how big my cajones are but this is only one of my reasons to protect my investments. I don't have that super thugged out look and I talk with proper grammar what can I say it intimidates the less intelligent and it can result in me proving my manhood sometimes. No it doesn't mean I'm gonna shoot someone before I fight but just in case the situation gets really crazy I can protect myself if need be.
DJRemixEnt 10:47 PM - 24 April, 2012
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.40 Glock


nice.... and the public enemy slipmats set it off too!
AKIEM 11:34 PM - 24 April, 2012
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Ive seen shootings after shows.
Ive been robbed at gunpoint - not at a gig - but with some equipment right at hand.
I have known people who follow and rob marks. When you leave a gig you are a mark.

Ive been DJing for only slightly longer then owning a gun and my reason for owning a gun is not only the end of the night shadiness - I have other reasons


yeah - too bad I dont have an UZI for the PE slipmats!
Nicky Blunt 3:13 AM - 25 April, 2012
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this whole thread reminds me of the guy from simpsons

simpsons.wikia.com
AKIEM 3:42 AM - 25 April, 2012
yeah I like the safe feeling of an unarmed society when Ive traveled abroad. I was a little worried about walking into a pub full of soccer hooligan types or some shit.

some people look at street fights like its some kind of honorable sport or some shit
echa1945mf 4:12 AM - 25 April, 2012
this thread makes me so grateful that i dont lived where ever you guys live,damn either you really have a fucked up neighbourhood or you lived in constant fear and paranoia , and people say indonesia is not save ..damn yo we dont have to carry guns and bad shit never happens , been working the night-life for almost 15 years now , worst thing that ever happen is some crazy psycho bitch coming at me with a knife coz i broke up with her


everything else is settle with fist ..... like men
Dj dOoOb_edstreme 4:27 AM - 25 April, 2012
I always bring Chuck Norris with me when I dj in Oaktown,Cali. nuf said, sometimes a hologram of Bruce Lee in my Serato set during gig. Maybe I should change my name to "Dj Team6" and outfit with Seal patches all over. No need to carry weapon.
a DJ 4:36 AM - 25 April, 2012
I would carry one if I wasnt in California, but I also agree with reggae delgado. How many times have you heard of a DJ robbed at gunpoint for all his equipment? Oakland is pretty bad too, young young kids been getting caught in the crossfire, and people get robbed all the time. My friend got robbed at gunpoint for his wallet and cell phone, kinda close to his house he grew up at. and he dresses like everyone else and doesnt look like a mark. He doesnt even wear any expensive clothes and obviously isnt someone who carries a lot of cash, otherwise they would have known him. It was just random. My boy got a shotgun pulled on him his first week living in oakland, just being asked what he was doing there. Some of my other friends got robbed at gunpoint in a craigslist scam (that one could have been avoided obviously).

My point is theres a very small chance you will lose your life getting robbed at gunpoint, as long as you give them no reason to shoot you. Even when people rob people they know, they usually dont even shoot them. You probably have a better chance getting killed by a car somehow. If they're gonna kill you no matter what, they would probably do it right away or at least not give you a chance to pull a gun out on you. And the robber is gonna try to catch you slippin. Whats a gun gonna do when you're putting equipment in your trunk with your back turned and both hands on your heavy equipment? or if he comes right up to you when you're about to get in the driver seat? Yes most robbers are not that good of a shot, but that close it doesnt really matter how fast you pull your gun and how accurate you are.

Are you really gonna put your life in the line for anywhere from your nights pay to the cost of your equipment? Doesnt matter how much custom shit you have or how hard its gonna be to recoup, I rather have my life any day. And lets face it, you really think someones gonna rob you for your car and equipment? If you're worried about people going that far, then invest in lojack. If theyre really smart enough to go to extreme lengths, like wear gloves, take your cell phone, and move your equipment to a nearby van, then they obviously thought it through and you probably wont be able to stop them with a gun. If theyre any less smart than that, you can probably catch them with the lojack and not have to worry about a case.

All that being said, if I was somewhere it was easy to get a concealed carry permit, I would probably do it. Just in case I was somehow able to get the upperhand on someone, or I thought they were gonna kill me no matter what. I would definitely worry about a case though, cuz the justice system is fucked up. Its probably less expensive to just let your equipment or gig money go. Also you people who dont worry about this are lucky you dont have to worry about people killing over money
willythekidd 5:12 AM - 25 April, 2012
few points:

the argument that there is a small chance you'll get robbed is null, the whole point of having a firearm is for those small percentages. if we knew when crimes were going to be committed, we wouldn't need guns for self protection in the first place

i would like to point out the more holistic view on carrying a weapon. part the point of carrying a weapon is for the fact that IF a large percentage of the population had a weapon, criminals would be less likely to commit crimes as they wouldn't know who and who was not armed.

with that being said, tying this the specific, put tracking software on your phone and computer. check out Prey, it's free. if your stuff ever gets stolen you can track the criminal very easily. In fact, if I ever get jacked, i'm gonna give them my phone.
DJRemixEnt 10:36 AM - 25 April, 2012
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www.newsobserver.com

^ this just happened a couple counties over from me... all you guys saying there is small chance of the robber shooting you is bullshit... do your research before making statements
DJRemixEnt 10:38 AM - 25 April, 2012
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so Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, Police Officers, FBI, Secret Service arent men??? They all carry firearms as means of personal protection, and all of them are trained to use them only when necessary.
DJRemixEnt 10:43 AM - 25 April, 2012
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ppl post pics of thier DJ setup, is this retarded too???

so if i started a stamp collectors thread and posted pics of my stamps... i'd be a retarded???

c'mon guys, your brain has two sides...utilize them both!!!
DJRemixEnt 10:51 AM - 25 April, 2012
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dont give them reason to shoot you??? wow, going to work and loading up your car, minding your own business... and you shouldnt give them a reason to shoot you?

like i stated before, my cousin got shot in the back of the head while he was driving a cab, by a 14 and a 16 yr old, who robbed him. And this was after he gave them the money...
Rick Hodgkins 10:59 AM - 25 April, 2012
^ Thats what I meant by the dudes witness protection program. If he thinks you could id him, what is his instinct going to be?
TAKE U OUT, then run like hell
selectajay 11:06 AM - 25 April, 2012
Did anybody hear about this??..hmm interesting
www.infowars.com
DJRemixEnt 11:13 AM - 25 April, 2012
^^^ahhh ok...lol. i was wondering about that... ur right though.


and i as i scan over this thread, i notice that the ppl talking out the side of their neck, seem like they havent grown up in rough neighborhoods or scene violent crime up close and personal.

in my opinion, unless youve grown up or have spent a decent amount of time in an area where violent crime is a major factor of life, then you shouldnt even say shit.

im not sure what its gonna take to get it through some of you guy's heads, but read this very clearly:

*****we are not talking about a fistfight situation... so stop bringing up these fist fight scenarios and trying to make it seem like us gun toters are pulling our guns out over a small disagreement**** this is clearly not the case.... ***we are talking life and death scenarios, where your life is clearly in jeopardy, and there is a dire need to protect yourself and others from great bodily harm***

also... im pretty sure you guys carry a spare tire around on your vehicle in case you get a flat tire... there is a very small chance of you getting a flat tire, so why carry a spare???

and just for the record, ive gotten a gun pulled on me 3 times ( 1 robbery and 2 from jealous ex boyfriends of chicks i was dating, all before i reached the age of 20)... and ive only got one flat tire(which was about 2 months ago). Im 28 years old. do the math.
Nicky Blunt 11:22 AM - 25 April, 2012
^^ My father once gave me a great piece of advice, dont argue with an idiot for you may get mistaken for one yourelf..........

Comparing a flat on a car to carrying a gun?
Stamps vs guns

My mother also gave me a great pice if advice.

If you have nothing nice to say. Say nothing.

So with that being said.,....................
DJRemixEnt 11:27 AM - 25 April, 2012
trust me man, im far from an idot... dont judge a persons whole character based solely form forum posts.

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Comparing a flat on a car to carrying a gun?
Stamps vs guns


look a litter deeper into the comparison... the argument is about probability.
DJRemixEnt 11:36 AM - 25 April, 2012
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^^ My father once gave me a great piece of advice, dont argue with an idiot for you may get mistaken for one yourelf..........


but you took the time out of your day to reply to my post??? umm yeah ok.


and last time i checked... you werent too good at making analogies:

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Techs are industry standard, Ive never been to a club in the UK to play on that has had turntables set up, that aint technics. Be it the 1200 or the 1210.

& with that being said, why practice on somethng that when you go to play out isnt there.

Thats like learning to play your part in an orchestra on the flute & turning up to be told well ur shit outta luck we only have trumpets!

So long as techs are what are in the clubs, thats what will be in my set up.
Nicky Blunt 11:42 AM - 25 April, 2012
lol analogies like guns vs stamps?

Psssh idiot!
DJRemixEnt 11:45 AM - 25 April, 2012
wow, Mr. Blunt, do i really need to break it down shotgun style(no pun intended lol)

i can, if you want me too... im bored anyway...lol
Nicky Blunt 11:47 AM - 25 April, 2012
me too to be honest. Frankly I dont live in america so i dont care if you have a gun surgically implanted in your hand.

I'm just killing time on my phone before rehursals today. I dont hold any animosity at all.
Im just bored
DJRemixEnt 11:53 AM - 25 April, 2012
oh yeah... just having fun to pass the time... def no animosity here!!!
Nicky Blunt 11:54 AM - 25 April, 2012
See two grown adults talking! No guns needed

hahahaha
DJRemixEnt 11:56 AM - 25 April, 2012
cant say the same for everyone though... ive seen some of these threads get pretty ugly... ppl threatning physical violence... damn shame ppl cant have a friendly debate without getting heated over stupid shit
DJRemixEnt 11:57 AM - 25 April, 2012
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See two grown adults talking! No guns needed

hahahaha


yezzir...lol
Nicky Blunt 11:57 AM - 25 April, 2012
dude its the interwebz, half of whats said on here is to be taken with a pinch of salt imho.
DJRemixEnt 11:58 AM - 25 April, 2012
^very tru... well atleast we agree on something...lol
Nicky Blunt 12:02 PM - 25 April, 2012
lol, TBH i think the difference of opinion comes from living in a pretty much gun free society here in the uk.

If i was born & raised in the usa, i would have the same opinion you do.
DJRemixEnt 12:09 PM - 25 April, 2012
oh yeah no doubt... actually, once our kids get into college... me and the wife are planning on leaving the US. we r just sick of the violence and corporate america greed. Thats one of the reasons i left the Marine Corps.

I think i said it in this thread, but out of all the countries ive been to, Iraq and the US are the only two places, where i felt a need to carry a firearm for protection.
Nicky Blunt 12:11 PM - 25 April, 2012
Jamaica was pretty hardcore in places. But the locals where i was staying were friendly as you could wish for. Had a an awesome time there.

Where are you thinking of moving to?
DJRemixEnt 12:12 PM - 25 April, 2012
France, Italy, Portugal, or Canada... those are the four places we r looking at.
Nicky Blunt 12:14 PM - 25 April, 2012
Portugal is an amazing country, Italy is a lot of fun, never been to france even tho i can get a train there.

Dont really know a whole lot about canada.

Id pick portugal it really is lovely there.
DJRemixEnt 12:18 PM - 25 April, 2012
^yeah...Portugal is top of the list... i spent some time in the Azores... and i had a blast! the ppl there were awesome, i had a chance to the running of the bulls... that shit was crazy...lol!!
Nicky Blunt 12:26 PM - 25 April, 2012
never been for the running of the bulls but i heard it gets pretty hectic
DJ DisGrace 1:08 PM - 25 April, 2012
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Dont really know a whole lot about canada.

It's like the US but with hunting rifles instead of handguns... and free healthcare if you do get shot :P
Rick Hodgkins 1:24 PM - 25 April, 2012
^^^ Top shelf funny
Nicky Blunt 1:27 PM - 25 April, 2012
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^^^ Top shelf funny


+1
Mighty Dragon Sounds 2:59 PM - 25 April, 2012
Kimber 1911 Custom I Dessert Warrior .45 ACP

Taurus 24/7 Gen II 9mm

Taurus PT845 .45 ACP
a DJ 3:14 AM - 26 April, 2012
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My point is theres a very small chance you will lose your life getting robbed at gunpoint, as long as you give them no reason to shoot you.


dont give them reason to shoot you??? wow, going to work and loading up your car, minding your own business... and you shouldnt give them a reason to shoot you?

like i stated before, my cousin got shot in the back of the head while he was driving a cab, by a 14 and a 16 yr old, who robbed him. And this was after he gave them the money...

And a gun would have saved him how? He would have pulled it out right as he gave the kid the money, shot the kid in the head and killed him instantly without the kid having a chance to shoot back? I agree that a gun would have gave him more of a chance to survive though, and I actually agree with carrying a weapon just for the tiny chance it might save your life. I would too if I could get a concealed weapon permit but California is stupid in that respect. Like people breaking the law already will care about following gun laws. Lol. I completely agree that if it was legal to carry loaded guns close enough to your body to use them, there would be way less crime.

Now your story about the convenience store being robbed, that does happen a lot. Taco truck workers and owners have been killed a lot, even when there was no sign they struggled to give up the money. I completely agree they should be armed. And a gun actually helps them because they have cover they can use, and theyre always facing forward with only one direction to watch. Not so much with a taco truck, but usually theres still only one direction they can be robbed by. As a DJ loading up equipment or even just getting in your car, you dont have much cover and have a lot more places a robber could come from, so a gun doesnt help your chances as much
DJRemixEnt 12:53 PM - 26 April, 2012
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As a DJ loading up equipment or even just getting in your car, you dont have much cover and have a lot more places a robber could come from, so a gun doesnt help your chances as much


it all depends on the angle... in my situation, i turned around and the gun was in my face, unfortunately i was only 18 when i was robbed at gun point so there was no way i would have been able to leagally carry a firearm.

but i carry my pistol on my right hip, i carry my wallet in my right back pocket, i consistantly practice my draw by making it seem like im going for my wallet, then drawing my pistol and firing.
i carry my pistol with a round in the chamber, so all i have to do is pull the trigger. that is also the reason why i carry a glock, because there is no safety to interfere with firing. and i also have calibrated lasers on all my carry guns, so i know where that bullet is going so i dont hit any innocent bystanders.

and besides, your average armed robber is not experienced with firearms, ive seen so many stories where perpetrators have attempted to fire and their pistols jam on the spot. or they squeeze off a round and it jams after the first one.

carrying a concealed firearm takes alot of training, practice and not every situation is going to be ideal for using your pistol, but id rather have it, because if im given the chance to eliminate the threat, im going to take it. but that does not mean i will not try to run/retreat first if i am able to, but im not going to allow myself to get shot in the back in the process.
Dj Ready Red 2:50 PM - 27 April, 2012
Old School Tip # 3. Have a crew us old timers have a crew to help set and maintain order before and during the event! I have helpers and security at most events that I pay. And just because we been down for so long they still help me even when doing in the hood events in high risk area's. I wouldn't disclose info of what I had on a public forum why you ask . The HIP HOP COPS ARE WATCHING
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:36 PM - 27 April, 2012
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I carry my pistol on my right hip, i carry my wallet in my right back pocket, i consistantly practice my draw by making it seem like im going for my wallet, then drawing my pistol and firing.
www.citizenarcane.com
Rick Hodgkins 5:18 AM - 28 April, 2012
Last night a Dj took my life...uuh yeyeah
ninos 5:38 AM - 28 April, 2012
Last night a dj saved my life from a broken heart
Rick Hodgkins 5:55 AM - 28 April, 2012
This whole thread is starting to look and sound like an NRA meeting, seriously.

So I'm figuring wow DJRemix must be deep in the hood somewhere to be that afraid and need and defend the need for that kind of protection, sheit.

Seriously dude, you have Havelock which is North Carolina in your profile.
The only fucking thing there in the middle of the god dammed forest and swamp is a Marine base.

Dude I live and work in an area that is dangerous but don't carry and I have a full license to conceal for all law full purposes which is outside of the protection of personal property laws to use a weapon.

In my opinion, you are one gun happy sob that I consider dangerous and shouldn't be ALLOWED to carry, period. Every single post you've made here supports what I am saying.
Take up video games instead
dj_soo 6:28 AM - 28 April, 2012
only a matter of time before someone in this thread does this: serato.com
Adam Dutch 7:07 AM - 28 April, 2012
I started taking Krav Maga because of a few incidents that happened while I was loading my car full of gear. About to take the steps for concealed.
DJ Alkemy 7:17 AM - 28 April, 2012
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i consistantly practice my draw by making it seem like im going for my wallet, then drawing my pistol and firing.


Well aint you just a regular ray of sunshine in this world. FACEPALM
Nicky Blunt 1:37 PM - 28 April, 2012
Sorry bu id much rather be practicing beat juggles & orbits than shooting from the hip and making it look like im going for my wallet
DJRemixEnt 3:41 PM - 28 April, 2012
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DJRemix must be deep in the hood somewhere to be that afraid and need and defend the need for that kind of protection, sheit.


Rick, what gave you the notion to assume that i currently live in the hood??? noone ever suggested that.

And afraid??? yeah ok, I am an Operation Iraqi Freedom/Enduring Freedom veteran, ive been to the dessert, been shot at, been in a hailfire of mortar, so afraid is not the word to describe me. Prepared for the worst is a better term to use. And you used the correct term, "defend" that is exactly why i carry a weapon. my glock 27 is a small weapon, it is light and only takes me a matter of 15 seconds to attatch it inside of my wasteband and take it along with me.

same reason why i carry a spare tire in my trunk, or carry a credit card while i travel out of town, i prepare myself for situations that can occur. and statistically it makes sense for me to carry a weapon.


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Seriously dude, you have Havelock which is North Carolina in your profile.
The only fucking thing there in the middle of the god dammed forest and swamp is a Marine base.


No shit, if you read my earlier posts, you would see that i spent 6 years active duty in the Marine Corps, and am currenty in a 2 year reserve contract. so that should explain why i reside in the woods next to a Marine Corps base. 2yrs ago, in havelock NC, my buddy a fellow SGT, got caught in the middle of a home invasion, he shot both perpetrators and was able to defend his family and his home. that right there is more than enough reason to have a weapon.

The next city over has a huge low income housing development which has been the source of alot of homeinvasions and robberies in this immediate area, and the victims are getting killed. The criminals are breaking into ppls houses and shooting them and taking thier belongings. My next door neighbor lost her mother 3yrs ago, she was shot to death in one of those home invasions.

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Dude I live and work in an area that is dangerous but don't carry and I have a full license to conceal for all law full purposes which is outside of the protection of personal property laws to use a weapon.


Rick, that is your right to carry or not to carry... im not mad at you, if you do or you dont. but answer this... why did you even get the permit to carry in the first place??? do you own a firearm??? and if you do what is the reason for you owning that firearm???

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In my opinion, you are one gun happy sob that I consider dangerous and shouldn't be ALLOWED to carry, period. Every single post you've made here supports what I am saying.


Rick, please point out, how my posts support your faulty/unrational opinion?

so far i recall myself saying:
-i consistantly practice my defense techniques by going to the gunrange 2-3 times a month.
-i keep myself updated on the deadly force & concealed carry laws
-i have a LEGAL concealed carry permit
-i would ONLY use deadly force in a situation where my life or someone elses life is threatened.
- if i have a chance to retreat, ill use that method first (if possible)
- i would never shoot a perpetrator in the back
- i would never instigate a fight and use my weapon

so how am i dangerous??? my weapon will only be used if my life is threatened. other than that, it never comes out. so lets be rational.
DJRemixEnt 3:42 PM - 28 April, 2012
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only a matter of time before someone in this thread does this: serato.com


like i said, lets be rational.
DJRemixEnt 3:56 PM - 28 April, 2012
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i consistantly practice my draw by making it seem like im going for my wallet, then drawing my pistol and firing.


Well aint you just a regular ray of sunshine in this world. FACEPALM


actually, im a pretty nice, laidback guy... i consider myself a responsible gun owner, and i make sure that i know how to properly use a weapon.

to me, you guys are the dangerous ppl, its ppl like you and Rick, where criminals get the mentality that nobody is armed and they can do whatever they want to innocent citizens.

once again, why do you think so many states are changing their deadly force laws? violent crime goes down, when citizens have a means to defend themselves.

if i could have it my way, i wish the states were more like other countries, where there was no gun violence, but that is not the case. Criminals have guns and wont hesitate to kill you. ive been a victim, and ive lost family members and friends because of violence. And none of them had a means of protecting themselves. ive seen to many cases where gun owners have used deadly force and protected their lives and the lives of their loved ones.

once my kids are adults and on their own, my wife and i have plans of moving out of the US, to get away from the kind of violence that exists in the US. Once i move, then ill have no need for a firearm and at that point wont own one.
DJRemixEnt 4:10 PM - 28 April, 2012
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Seriously dude, you have Havelock which is North Carolina in your profile.
The only fucking thing there in the middle of the god dammed forest and swamp is a Marine base.


Hey Rick, these are local.


www.newbernsj.com
www.newbernsj.com
www.wcti12.com
www.wcti12.com
www.wcti12.com
www.jdnews.com
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Rick Hodgkins 4:10 PM - 28 April, 2012
Dude, you are obsessed with guns period.
Maybe the military did that to you, maybe its just a fetish.

Being in the wrong place at the wrong time is just as bad as being ready to fire imo, shit happens when you are looking for it or give it a chance to.
The problem is people in these situations are usually not in their right minds and like posting on the internet, you can't take it back once the slug leaves the barrel.

I would bet my life that Zimmerman would agree with me now and he would do anything to have that slug back.

Peace man, think about what I said.
Served my country a long time ago, but that is not the basis for owning a firearm.
When the military teaches you what you have posted in all of these posts you've made, its ok on a battlefield, but lets not bring that to the streets, there is enough of that already.
If everybody in this country had a firearm and was trained and ready to fire, sooner or later somebody is going to blink and the shit is gonna go down. Once that starts, there's no stopping it just like an out of control riot.

It's like these countries that build up arms because of the fear they see, and the cold war is a perfect example. Had the USSR not gone broke funding their military, we'd probably not be having this conversation now.

Its a deep complicated human thing, but again if you prepare for it chances are you will find trouble, just like that jock bully in school, just like that work out freak at the club trying to prove to the world how bad he is.
DJRemixEnt 4:25 PM - 28 April, 2012
being in the military has nothing to do with me owning a firearm... myself and others being a victim of violent crimes does...

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I would bet my life that Zimmerman would agree with me now and he would do anything to have that slug back.


^this has nothing to do with what we are talking about.... and besides, as a RESPONSIBLE gun owner, i would NEVER stalk someone and INSTIGATE a confrontation... if i was suspicious of someone, i would call the cops and let them handle it.

my gun ONLY comes out if i am minding my own business and someone makes it thier business to approach me and point a gun in my face and threaten my life. if someone approaches me and punches me, then my gun DOES NOT come out. i will be more than happy to retreat and call the cops and let them handle it.


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Dude, you are obsessed with guns period.
Maybe the military did that to you, maybe its just a fetish.


so when it has to do with firearms its an obsession or a fetish... but i spend more time djing, earning my degree in school, playing/coaching baseball for the city little league org, spending time with my kids... so are those fetishes and obesessions too???

And you never answered my question:

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why did you even get the permit to carry in the first place??? do you own a firearm??? and if you do what is the reason for you owning that firearm???
AKIEM 4:27 PM - 28 April, 2012
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Being in the wrong place at the wrong time is just as bad as being ready to fire imo, shit happens when you are looking for it or give it a chance to.


simply not true

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I would bet my life that Zimmerman would agree with me now and he would do anything to have that slug back.


Zimmerman made a series of mistakes before firing that slug. And actually probably did not need to in the first place.

Not every gun owner is a Zimmerman
DJRemixEnt 4:36 PM - 28 April, 2012
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If everybody in this country had a firearm and was trained and ready to fire, sooner or later somebody is going to blink and the shit is gonna go down. Once that starts, there's no stopping it just like an out of control riot.


this was the same argument all the anti gun nuts tried to use before all of these states started adopting Stand Your Ground & Castle Doctrine laws. And this has clearly not happened.

Rick, do your research buddy, look how many states have/are enstating personal protection laws... there has not been a "Wild West everyman for himself" mentality that you claim would happen. if this were the case states would be banning personal protecton/deadly force not going along with it and backing them.

Drunk driving incidents cause more deaths/injuries than irresponsible licensed gun owner/carriers.
and of course as with any other scenario, when you allow hundreds of thousands of ppl to do something, your gonna have your isolated situations of nuts out there. so it's not only isolated to the gun ownership/self defense topic.
DJRemixEnt 4:38 PM - 28 April, 2012
"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." no pun intended...lol
Rick Hodgkins 4:42 PM - 28 April, 2012
RM
Half your posts reference military experience, ie: one shot one kill and so on.
I am a business owner in New Bedford, Mass, now YOU do some research.
I'm won't post up every single murder, home invasion, rape or gang incident.
And its a 25 cal colt that sits in the cash drawer, not on my hip waiting for opportunity to show its ugly head.



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Zimmerman made a series of mistakes before firing that slug. And actually probably did not need to in the first place.

Not every gun owner is a Zimmerman


And if he didn't have that gun...duh
Exactly my point Akiem, thank you.
He was prepared to use it, he put himself in that place being Mr Badass vigilante.

Not gonna get into a battle of whits with you, or the NRA, or the Constitution.
Just wanted to stick a mirror in your face with all you have posted.
Nobody is going to pry that gun from your cold dead hand man, I'm out.

Watchwww.youtube.com
DJRemixEnt 4:45 PM - 28 April, 2012
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And its a 25 cal colt that sits in the cash drawer, not on my hip waiting for opportunity to show its ugly head.


in a drawer or on your hip... what's the fuckin difference??? the point is you have it because there is a chance you will need to use it to protect yourself/business... #facepalm
AKIEM 4:58 PM - 28 April, 2012
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Zimmerman made a series of mistakes before firing that slug. And actually probably did not need to in the first place.

Not every gun owner is a Zimmerman


And if he didn't have that gun...duh
Exactly my point Akiem, thank you.
He was prepared to use it, he put himself in that place being Mr Badass vigilante.


The problem is that he was playing Mr Badass Vigilante. Maybe he would have run the kid down in his suv if he wasnt armed. The point is that it was the mistakes made, not the opportunity to make them.

And yes, the difference between a 25 cal on the cash draw or in your waistband is pretty slim to be making an argument. I would respect a complete ban on guns more then that argument.
SUBSTANCE 9:48 PM - 1 May, 2012
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IF a large percentage of the population had a weapon, criminals would be less likely to commit crimes as they wouldn't know who and who was not armed.

This is simply not true. America has far more gun deaths than countries with low gun ownership. There is also a vast amount of paranoia at play in America.

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Its retarded posting pics of your gun collection.

I specifically asked for gun pictures. haha. And I'd like to see more...

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violent crime goes down, when citizens have a means to defend themselves.

if i could have it my way, i wish the states were more like other countries, where there was no gun violence, but that is not the case.


These two sentences contradict each other. Violent or firearm related crime needs guns to exist. Legally obtained guns can fall into criminals hands.

Obviously, being in the military & actual war zones gives you a different world view on firearms. I'm lucky enough to live somewhere that handguns are virtually non-existant.

Having said that - I did get a kick out of looking at gun + DJ gear pictures!
willythekidd 10:31 PM - 1 May, 2012
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This is simply not true. America has far more gun deaths than countries with low gun ownership. There is also a vast amount of paranoia at play in America.


Have you read More Guns Less Crime?
SUBSTANCE 10:53 PM - 1 May, 2012
No I haven't. The concept seems implausible.

Where I'm from, society operates on a general level of respect, as opposed to fear.
I believe fear generates the 'I need a gun' mentality.

So, while you think that being able to pull half a dozen gun death articles from your local area spports your point....
I mix the audio for our national 6 o'clock news & there's fuck all people being shot by handguns.
The highest profile gun deaths here are hunting related. Laugh all you want, but I'm not expecting some guy in a high visibility vest to pull his rifle on me after my gig.
SUBSTANCE 11:04 PM - 1 May, 2012
PS - More pictures please. lol.
So far you aren't living up to the profile pictures of all the dudes that I play xbox first person shooters with. #BrandSpankingNewHeckler&Koch
www.google.co.nz
AKIEM 1:12 AM - 2 May, 2012
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PS - More pictures please. lol.
So far you aren't living up to the profile pictures of all the dudes that I play xbox first person shooters with. #BrandSpankingNewHeckler&Koch
www.google.co.nz


wow a baby with an HK

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Where I'm from, society operates on a general level of respect, as opposed to fear.
I believe fear generates the 'I need a gun' mentality.


Well you are right about the problem being the society - its not the existence of the guns. The guns are a symptom of the sickness.

As far as fear - Ive seen people shot in the chest, Ive seen friends dead in the street, Ive been shot at and have had guns pointed at me, Ive had people let it be known that they were going to kill me and had the means to do it. Yes I first armed myself out of some fear - 20 years ago and for good reason. For good strategic advantage if needed. There is reason for the 'fear' or the precaution someplace, sometimes. There may be plenty of irrational fear - but not all of it is. If you live inside a cycle of violence disarming yourself first is not the rational choice. If we removed the guns - it does not remove the impulse or reason for killing. It would only change the tactics.

To sum it up - the problem is not the gun, it is the mentality of the person using it.

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Where I'm from, society operates on a general level of respect


So would dropping a ton of hand guns off into your society guarantee more murders?
DJRemixEnt 3:08 AM - 2 May, 2012
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wow a baby with an HK


in iraq and afghanistan, there are kids walking around with fully loaded AK47's
DJ RaGu 12:38 AM - 3 May, 2012
I just carry a box cutter on me, it comes in handy a bunch of daily taks. If need be I guess I could use it for self-defense.
DJ Nightmare Productions 7:49 PM - 3 May, 2012
Why Yes yes i do.. A glock 40 on my hip and a Ruger 279 on my ankle..
DJ Nightmare Productions 7:50 PM - 3 May, 2012
Ruger is LC9 not 279 my bad
DJ Alkemy 5:06 AM - 4 May, 2012
Comedy wise, this is the thread that just keeps on giving.
skinnyguy 9:41 AM - 4 May, 2012
I've brought quite a few lethal weapons with me to gigs.

And mix factors.

And top secrets.

And some wicked mixes.

=P
AustinG 5:07 PM - 25 June, 2012
Thanks for all the replies.... So I had another issue at a bar this weekend.

My buddy, and my crowd hype-man (at times) was on the dancefloor getting girls up to dance... Around closing time some random guy comes up and sucker punches him and completely lays him out. My brother was KO'd cold for a good 3 minutes. After the sucker punch, the punk was going to ground and pound him.... Luckily enough I seen it all and was able to scoop the kid up and pin him before he could get in another punch. I got in a few strokes but I quickly got tackled and the kid escapes!

Not saying I would need a gun in this situation but what are we supposed to do in these situations?? The punk kid got away and my brother has a severly swollen jaw, major headaches, dizzy spells (concussion), and his neck hurts.

I think I will buy a tazer for the next time something like this happens... I need something that will subdue these types of punks until the authorities get there LMAO.

I mean I have a job to keep, and security was nowhere to be found. I would much rather finish this off with my hands but what would you guys do in this situation?

Again, it's your brother having a good time, dancing with the wrong girl apparently, and he gets KO'd... what would you do?
DJ Alkemy 5:18 PM - 25 June, 2012
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Thanks for all the replies.... So I had another issue at a bar this weekend.



My buddy, and my crowd hype-man (at times) was on the dancefloor getting girls up to dance... Around closing time some random guy comes up and sucker punches him and completely lays him out. My brother was KO'd cold for a good 3 minutes. After the sucker punch, the punk was going to ground and pound him.... Luckily enough I seen it all and was able to scoop the kid up and pin him before he could get in another punch. I got in a few strokes but I quickly got tackled and the kid escapes!



Not saying I would need a gun in this situation but what are we supposed to do in these situations?? The punk kid got away and my brother has a severly swollen jaw, major headaches, dizzy spells (concussion), and his neck hurts.



I think I will buy a tazer for the next time something like this happens... I need something that will subdue these types of punks until the authorities get there LMAO.



I mean I have a job to keep, and security was nowhere to be found. I would much rather finish this off with my hands but what would you guys do in this situation?



Again, it's your brother having a good time, dancing with the wrong girl apparently, and he gets KO'd... what would you do?


If someone sucker punches someone I know then he is getting KTFO. If you cant beat him with ya hands then smash a bottle over his napper. He lost the right to a fair fight when he sucker punched.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:20 PM - 25 June, 2012
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security was nowhere to be found


Heres the real issue that needs to be addressed
AustinG 5:25 PM - 25 June, 2012
You're both right, it's a messed up situation. Security is pointless and they won't pay our guy to lead security. I tried to subdue the guy myself in which I was tackled by the owner!

So next time I'll crush a bottle over his face, which I don't believe in. But you're right, after a sucker punch the fight is no longer fair...

All this UFC bullcrap has all these young kids hyped up, the sweet science of going toe to toe is over forever.... sad times.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:29 PM - 25 June, 2012
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I was tackled by the owner!


You dj so bad lol
DJ Alkemy 5:30 PM - 25 June, 2012
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I was tackled by the owner!




You dj so bad lol


LOL
ced_so_thoed 6:24 PM - 25 June, 2012
ay
lmao
yep
AustinG 8:40 PM - 25 June, 2012
ay
stfu
yep...

why post pointless shit?
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I was tackled by the owner!


You dj so bad lol


wanna battle?
Mighty Dragon Sounds 10:26 PM - 25 June, 2012
I use the Force
DJRemixEnt 12:28 PM - 26 June, 2012
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Thanks for all the replies.... So I had another issue at a bar this weekend.

My buddy, and my crowd hype-man (at times) was on the dancefloor getting girls up to dance... Around closing time some random guy comes up and sucker punches him and completely lays him out. My brother was KO'd cold for a good 3 minutes. After the sucker punch, the punk was going to ground and pound him.... Luckily enough I seen it all and was able to scoop the kid up and pin him before he could get in another punch. I got in a few strokes but I quickly got tackled and the kid escapes!

Not saying I would need a gun in this situation but what are we supposed to do in these situations?? The punk kid got away and my brother has a severly swollen jaw, major headaches, dizzy spells (concussion), and his neck hurts.

I think I will buy a tazer for the next time something like this happens... I need something that will subdue these types of punks until the authorities get there LMAO.

I mean I have a job to keep, and security was nowhere to be found. I would much rather finish this off with my hands but what would you guys do in this situation?

Again, it's your brother having a good time, dancing with the wrong girl apparently, and he gets KO'd... what would you do?



def not a stuation for a firearm. i dont think a taser would do any good in this situation either. the common handheld taser sold to the average consumer, isnt enought to knock someone out or even zap them to the point where they can be subdued.

most of these tasers are used for shock factor... when your holding a taser and the other person hears that loud clicking and sees the bright blue lightning bolt coming from the taser, they are more than likely gonna think twice about attacking you.

in that situation, if you can grab him and fold his ass up, then go for it. but remember, anytime you go after someone while they are retreating or they have stopped fighting, then your self defense claim is gone. and dont forget if you take matters into your own hands, that person can press charges against you and file a lawsuit against you and the club.
Jim 2:19 PM - 26 June, 2012
springfield xdm 9
H&K Usp compact 40
jayruss 4:07 PM - 26 June, 2012
surely £10 a month insurance on your dj equipment is better than carrying a gun, or a knife for that matter. if someone threatens you at gunpoint, give it to them. your covered by insurance hes happy cause he gets some money and you still have your life.
Dysquo 5:52 AM - 14 April, 2018
Bump. What are the current views?
VJ Xtreme 6:12 PM - 15 April, 2018
In Massachusetts it's illegal to have a gun in a bar/club that sells alcohol. Not worth me going to jail, so I leave my guns home.
popnwave 5:08 PM - 16 April, 2018
Yeah liquor laws still make it very hard to carry legally and/or keep your weapon easily accessible when you might need it.
DjWhiteChocolate 1:13 AM - 22 August, 2018
Depends on the venue. As a rule, I never leave home without it. That being said, I have never pulled my weapon unless life was in danger and I had no other option on the table... it wasn't fun, and it wasn't like the movies. Training took over. If you don't plan on getting properly trained and keeping up on the range, then find other solutions. We don't work where there is a history of violent crimes, and we stipulate security watch our trucks or secured parking provided for our vehicles as part of the performance contract. Lastly, we almost always work in pairs and watch each other's back when loading in and loading out. Just remember that yes, you do have a right to protect yourself, but also remember private property laws and CCW laws within your jurisdiction. If you aren't blessed enough to have a second person watch your back and load out with you, then give the venue security a $20 to stand at the door while you load out.
DJKOOPA77 2:17 AM - 23 May, 2023
100% but i also take one to the bathroom, store, friends house and everywhere else i go....always.... but i grew up in a really bad part of a really bad city and i ran a dance club for years and it got all the way out of hand almost every night....stay safe.