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Skratchworx breaks news on Serato Video-SL

The Axledental DJ 3:41 AM - 9 December, 2007
www.skratchworx.com

I don't know why it was not announced here first. I'm not talking about the News thread that was started on August 8th 2007.
I was hoping some more details and pictures. Maybe its NAMM 08 annoucenment thing. But seeing as SSL 1.8.0 is due anytime soon..maybe SSL and Rane will be making a formal announcement on their own forums. soon.
lvmez 3:56 AM - 9 December, 2007
i can't wait. i'm building my video collection.
D-Twizzle 4:01 AM - 9 December, 2007
i wonder how concrete that date is? i have other quotes saying 2007, but the article says Jan 17, 2008.
djdragon 4:09 AM - 9 December, 2007
Don't believe the release dat till' NAMM
Konix 4:17 AM - 9 December, 2007
The release date IS during NAMM.
marx 5:59 AM - 9 December, 2007
again this sux for sl1 users.

for all sl users that want to do video now will just have to rely on virtual dj. which works flawless by the way. (if you don't download porn) haha....just like anything else with windows.

I still have footage of last years new years performence which was done on vdj. this year i will tape again.
skratchworx 8:20 AM - 9 December, 2007
I got an emailing detailing Video-SL, so asked Rane and Serato for clarification. They sent what you saw on skratchworx. Rather than an official release, I think it was more a matter of making a semi-official announcement from a respected source before possibly incorrect rumour spread virally. Hence the image I knocked up - I don't have an official logo for Video-SL at this time.

For the record, I would happily have sat on it if asked but seeing as it was "out there", I guess Rane felt it was better to go down this route.
DJ Unique 9:13 AM - 9 December, 2007
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again this sux for sl1 users.

for all sl users


Old news.
We all knew the initial plug-in would only be available to 57SL owners.
nik39 2:46 PM - 9 December, 2007
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I don't know why it was not announced here first

Yeah... weird.
soulwax 4:13 PM - 9 December, 2007
I don't hope the serato fam will start to treat the sl-1 users like stepchildren.... this really sux for sl-1 users.
nik39 4:19 PM - 9 December, 2007
Geez... it has been said (since the first announcement) that SL1 support will come. :)
eder 5:17 PM - 9 December, 2007
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Geez... it has been said (since the first announcement) that SL1 support will come. :)


yeah...but it was also said that 1.8 would drop last July...
nik39 5:22 PM - 9 December, 2007
Touche...
bandoma 5:51 PM - 9 December, 2007
time to buy a new computer.
Dj Ace 7:57 PM - 9 December, 2007
Touche...
a-swift 9:31 PM - 9 December, 2007
i really have trouble understanding the SL-1 vs. 57 acrimony. i mean seriously. a 57 is like $1000. you'll make that much in ONE gig. buy the damn 57 and quit your whining already!
dj cubicle 10:34 PM - 9 December, 2007
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I don't have an official logo for Video-SL at this time.


I do. ;-)
Logisticalstyles 11:01 PM - 9 December, 2007
I had to purchase a laptop in order to use the SL1 and then buy the SL1. This puts me at about $1300.00. Now Rane wants me to buy an$1100.00 mixer to use the new features. That's what sucks. I was talking to a Serato rep about a month ago and he was explaining that there are going to be a lot of new features other than video that would only be available to the 57 users. They say that they are looking into an option that would allow the SL1 users to do video, but I don't see that happening, escpecially without having to buy another piece of equipment.

I'm just happy that the SL1 does everything that I wanted it to do when I purchased it. I don't see me getting the 57 anytime soon, even though I do need a new mixer and will probably buy a 56.
Deejay Z 12:04 AM - 10 December, 2007
So does anyone know if they will release an easy way to rip DVDs to whatever format SLV will use?
djtripp 12:07 AM - 10 December, 2007
I have it on good authority that MPEG 4 video works great.
Deejay Z 12:17 AM - 10 December, 2007
Ya i called serato and they said if it plays in quicktime it will work in Serato, and since Quicktime is a required component of serato....but what about a easy way to say rip my promo only video collection?
Dj Shamann 12:39 AM - 10 December, 2007
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and since Quicktime is a required component of serato....




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djtripp 12:39 AM - 10 December, 2007
Depends on your OS. There are tons of great software choices for Mac and PC.
Deejay Z 12:44 AM - 10 December, 2007
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and since Quicktime is a required component of serato....




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System Requirements
Hardware: Rane TTM 57 SL mixer & External display/monitor/projector
Software: Scratch LIVE version 1.8 or higher & Apple QuickTime 7.2 or higher
djtripp 12:46 AM - 10 December, 2007
what kind of computer are you using, MAC or PC?
Rebelguy 1:03 AM - 10 December, 2007
Has anyone talked with any beta testers of the plug-in lately? Last I heard it worked flawlessly as far as transitioning and previewing but the actual video output was glitchy (ist that even a word?).
Dj Shamann 1:04 AM - 10 December, 2007
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and since Quicktime is a required component of serato....




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System Requirements
Hardware: Rane TTM 57 SL mixer & External display/monitor/projector
Software: Scratch LIVE version 1.8 or higher & Apple QuickTime 7.2 or higher



System requirements for the video app you meant then, the way it was worded it was like you were saying Quicktime was required for Serato itself, which is why I was scratching my head
gregdaynes 1:05 AM - 10 December, 2007
if you are wanting to rip dvd's to pretty much any format you want, try Handbrake
handbrake.m0k.org
it works on both windows and mac (linux too if you care) its a great software for it.
but if your transcoding it, there are LOTS of softwares, i sometimes ponder just using quicktime to convert. personal preference i guess.
Deejay Z 1:20 AM - 10 December, 2007
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and since Quicktime is a required component of serato....




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System Requirements
Hardware: Rane TTM 57 SL mixer & External display/monitor/projector
Software: Scratch LIVE version 1.8 or higher & Apple QuickTime 7.2 or higher



System requirements for the video app you meant then, the way it was worded it was like you were saying Quicktime was required for Serato itself, which is why I was scratching my head


Ya reading over that again, would of made me scratch my head too haha
Konix 2:27 AM - 10 December, 2007
Well, I believe you also need Quicktime installed for 1.8 to play AAC files.
derby 2:29 AM - 10 December, 2007
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I had to purchase a laptop in order to use the SL1 and then buy the SL1. This puts me at about $1300.00. Now Rane wants me to buy an$1100.00 mixer to use the new features. That's what sucks.


and how much did you spend on your mixer + ssl?

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I was talking to a Serato rep about a month ago and he was explaining that there are going to be a lot of new features other than video that would only be available to the 57 users. They say that they are looking into an option that would allow the SL1 users to do video, but I don't see that happening, escpecially without having to buy another piece of equipment.


if you understand the hardware differences between the sl1 interface and the underpinnings of the 57sl, this is very easy to understand.

the guts are different. the 57sl has DSPs that allow them to code a lot of different features that the sl1 will never be capable of.

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They say that they are looking into an option that would allow the SL1 users to do video, but I don't see that happening, escpecially without having to buy another piece of equipment.

I'm just happy that the SL1 does everything that I wanted it to do when I purchased it. I don't see me getting the 57 anytime soon, even though I do need a new mixer and will probably buy a 56.


i just don't think that the market for video mixing is that big. or, if you want to look at it another way, a 57sl + the video plugin is a bargain compared to two DVJs and a video mixer.
Logisticalstyles 2:57 AM - 10 December, 2007
I spent $500 on my mixer, but that doesn't count, because I've had this mixer way before Serato. I'm talking about the initial money spent to use Scratch Live. Sure, a new laptop + SL1 = a 57(give or take a few bucks), but the eqution changes when you add the already purchased SL1 + new laptop + 57. I don't see video being worth the extra expense. But then, what about the other new features like MIDI mapping? You can't do that with an SL1 either.

And yeah, I understand the differences between the two interfaces, that's why I said I didn't see it happening without having to buy and extra piece of equipment.
Dj Ace 4:42 AM - 10 December, 2007
MIDI mapping is compatible with SL-1, just get a Midi controller like the trigger finger.
Dj Shamann 4:47 AM - 10 December, 2007
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Ya reading over that again, would of made me scratch my head too haha



LOL yeah it happens. especially with no edit feature.
Deejay Z 5:41 AM - 10 December, 2007
ya for real
marx 6:14 AM - 10 December, 2007
imo the biggest problem with the sl1 & 57 isn't the 1000 bucks. its the fact that you can't just rip aprart equipment @ all clubs. Its alot easier plugging in the sl & pluging into the vga/dvi/svideo/compsite & use the keyboard/midi for controlling the software.

everyone with the whole hardware thing is way off base. yes the 57 can do certain things that sl1 can't.... but this has nothing to do with sl1's ability to handle video. no u won't be able to xfade the video with your fader...but some don't care. I personally most likely will be buying a 57. but the problem with it not working with the sl1 is still a problem for club djs. mobile djs will be fine since they setup anyway. CLUB DJS.

So from a marketing point of view. Who do you think will use video more?? Club djs or mobile djs? hmmm which one do u think is a better choice? You already know my answer.

Maybe serato is trying to make the 57 THE STANDARD club mixer. Now yes pioneer has done this but IMO the only way to this is to make the 58 (4 channel board). I know you can plug multiple players into the 57 but its not the same thing. Also not to mention the onboard analog sound effects. Not all djs use software. Mp3's are still HUGE.

Anyway was just thinking outload.
Nappa 3:54 PM - 10 December, 2007
From a business standpoint this makes sense. Rane wants their mixer to be the industry standard mixer for scratch VDJs. I guess it's time for me to make the upgrade to the 57.
derby 5:00 PM - 10 December, 2007
*large* club installations with video mixing capability are already going to have their own setups.

even if you take your own mixer in, you're still going to have to interface with their video distribution system.

i don't see this is a "big club" solution.

i think that the 57sl+video is going to be a great solution for two-channel DJs that want to do video. if you need something more than that, you've probably already priced out DVJs, an appropriate mixer, and all the other video gear.

as i said above, even if you have to go out and spend more money on a 57sl + the video plugin, you're still cheaper than one DVJ1000.
kue 5:18 PM - 10 December, 2007
I was so excited for video. I even bought the DJM 800 thinking that midi would be the thing controlling video within Serato. I really hope they come up with something for people with just the regular Serato SL1 interface.
De LA 5:27 PM - 10 December, 2007
Im not worried about the SL1 support at all. I think most of the clubs that the majority of Dj's spin at, Are not set up for video anyways. meaning that they dont have plasmas or projection screens around the club. And even if you do have say 6 Flat screens in your club, the club is still going to have to set up something so you can get your feed on all the TV's if they dont already have it.
There is only one place I spin at now where I would be able to even use Video. I think the video will be great for Mobile DJ's first for now. In the meantime...Ill probably just subscribe to promo only video and start building so in a year or so I can do video if need be.
marx 5:46 PM - 10 December, 2007
its easy to tap into video...not so easy to tell the owner you have to take out the board & put yours in.

you need a mixer dustcover so u can put the 57 on top haha
Dj Ace 6:37 AM - 11 December, 2007
SL1 support is coming right, so why complain? If you want it now, you KNOW what to do. If that is not the solution for you...wait. Serato doesn't want to release some B.S. version that doesn't seem intuitively and doesn't control the video mixing effectively. Patience my fellow DJ's...
Deejay Z 6:38 AM - 11 December, 2007
yuup well said
marx 6:56 AM - 11 December, 2007
nope not well said. not shitting on u that isn't the reason. I myself am going to get a 57 but it still sucks for weekly club djs.
marx 6:58 AM - 11 December, 2007
also coming could be 2 years from now. remember JULY JULY JULY haha wow for oldtime sake:

Watchyoutube.com
soon-2-be-ex-FS2user 7:32 AM - 11 December, 2007
is free yeah?

www.scratchlive.net
marx 7:39 AM - 11 December, 2007
of course. you will have to pay for the video plugin though.

i wonder if they will start charging @ 2.0
nik39 1:50 PM - 15 December, 2007
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Geez... it has been said (since the first announcement) that SL1 support will come. :)


yeah...but it was also said that 1.8 would drop last July...

Touche even more than I thought. The current words on the SL1 support sounds worse than previously.

Now its been said that SL1 "may" come.

Ouch.
eder 2:12 AM - 16 December, 2007
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Geez... it has been said (since the first announcement) that SL1 support will come. :)


yeah...but it was also said that 1.8 would drop last July...

Touche even more than I thought. The current words on the SL1 support sounds worse than previously.

Now its been said that SL1 "may" come.

Ouch.


yeah...something about how the 57 can handle all of the audio/video capacities but the sl1 can't....lol sounds like Stanton's silently taking over Serato...
nik39 2:30 AM - 16 December, 2007
Nah, I guess simple economics. Who knows how successful this video plugin would be. It may not be worth to make it work for the SL1 if only 200 SL1 users are interested in it... Maybe people decide to switch to the 57... or whatever.
marx 3:02 AM - 16 December, 2007
its cool to switch to the 57....but like i've said many times its the clubs with the built in system thats the problem.

I bet it would be easier to get the sl1 to work with the video plugin vs the 57. I'm sure it already works. Its already been said they want to sel 57 mixers. Its that simple.
nik39 3:08 AM - 16 December, 2007
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Its already been said they want to sel 57 mixers.

Link?
marx 3:49 AM - 16 December, 2007
meaning not officialy from the serato team...but thats been the conclusion with most of the members here in all the 1.8 discussions. many that you've been part of :"