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With ME 2.0 around the corner will one need a Traktor Kontrol X1 now for effects

djpuma_gemini 10:41 PM - 2 March, 2012
With ME 2.0 around the corner I'm starting to feel that my dicers won't be enough to cut it.
After seeing the demo with all the cool beat grid effects it makes me want to be able to use them more, but not by turning them on and off with my laptop keys.

I'm not sure if the dicer can handle this (no knobs) so I'm wondering what are my other options if you don't have a 62 and just a 57 and dicers (or other mixer)

Thoughts?
Marine 10:44 PM - 2 March, 2012
Traktor kontrol x-1 midi controller
djpuma_gemini 10:51 PM - 2 March, 2012
Yeah that's what I was asking.
DjBoozie 10:59 PM - 2 March, 2012
NanoKontrol 2. 8 slides 8 knobs and 24 buttons

123dj.com
DjBoozie 10:59 PM - 2 March, 2012
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NanoKontrol 2. 8 slides 8 knobs and 34 buttons

123dj.com

FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DjBoozie 11:01 PM - 2 March, 2012
i1103.photobucket.com

here's mine sitting under my laptop
djnak 11:05 PM - 2 March, 2012
yeah the nanocontrol is some bang for its buck Im using a denon dnhc 1000s for the serato stuff (cues loops rolls) basically any serato feature and a nano kontrol strictly for m.e.....works great
tomatoslice 11:14 PM - 2 March, 2012
with ME you do not need knobs.
you can change the type of input it is.


i have my dicers setup to turn effects off and on.
D-Twizzle 11:24 PM - 2 March, 2012
i heard an updated dicer is coming out with some knobs
tomatoslice 11:30 PM - 2 March, 2012
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I'm not sure if the dicer can handle this (no knobs) ...



it can

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i have my dicers setup to turn effects off and on.


actually, i should say "until recently, i HAD them setup that way."
it's been quite a few months since i did it. i believe you need to look toward the "advanced" part of the midi setup.
there are multiple configurations. don't remember the names.
1 setup i had was mimicked a know in that the longer i hel the button the more the "knob" turned in the direction setup. another setting was like all the way turned up or all the way turned down this creating an "on/off" switch therefore not needing an on/off button or bypass for effects like in vsl. there was also a toggle ability too.
the midi abilities off mix emergency are simply fucking amazing. it is yet another thing VSL can not come close too.
i have yet to see anyone even come close to using the midi abilities to their fullest.

you can set them as smart buttons too. meaning one midi control/button/slider or knob can do mutliple things. for instance on my dicers when i hit the loop roll or the longer i held it multiple settings for the effects would be engage. the longer i held it or the longer the faster the loop roll became the more intense the effects beacme.
djpuma_gemini 11:41 PM - 2 March, 2012
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NanoKontrol 2. 8 slides 8 knobs and 34 buttons

123dj.com

FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I have the old nano kontrol but don't it cause of the dicers (don't want to use both) and it's too damn dark.

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i heard an updated dicer is coming out with some knobs


This would be nice if it's midi mappable and not just the extra scenes
djpuma_gemini 11:45 PM - 2 March, 2012
I can turn on and off with dicers, but I'd have to set all the effect before hand, can't rotate anything or scroll up and down to choose effect with buttons.
tomatoslice 12:16 AM - 3 March, 2012
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I can turn on and off with dicers, but I'd have to set all the effect before hand, can't rotate anything or scroll up and down to choose effect with buttons.


YES, you can!!
have you tried?
it is in the ME advanced midi functions.
tomatoslice 12:19 AM - 3 March, 2012
you have to set 2 knobs tho. one button scrolls up, one button scrolls down. plus, you can use the shift buttons of the dicers, people always forget.

it's not perfect, using 2 buttons in place of one knob, but it can be done.
djpuma_gemini 12:40 AM - 3 March, 2012
Yeah I don't even use the extra buttons now on my dicers for fear of not pressing the scene button and jumping to a cue, loop or loop roll.

I mean I use two, one to turn loops on and off that I have set already and another which I forgot what it does.
phatbob 12:56 AM - 3 March, 2012
I use Dicers, a MidiFighter in 4 banks mode, and spare knobs on the DJM-800.

And still I sometimes want more...

Think I might have a midi controller addiction problem.
djpuma_gemini 12:57 AM - 3 March, 2012
lmao.
I've had the dicers and nanokontrol running together, but got scared and just stuck with the dicers, didn't want anything to crash.
phatbob 1:04 AM - 3 March, 2012
I use the Belkin F4U017 powered hub.

The craziest setup I ran with that hub was 2 x CDJ2000s over HID, Dicers, USB/Midi interface, and 2 MidiFighters.

I trust that hub with my life. Bought a second one in case I lose or break the first one...
Joshua Carl 1:56 AM - 3 March, 2012
Ive been on an x1 for about a year now.
LOOOOOOOOVE IT.
total control on SSL & ME on one unit.

the X2 is a lil eehhhhhhh maybe if your a traktor hound.
but I personall dont need that many surfaces, or more faders,
Joshua Carl 1:57 AM - 3 March, 2012
what I was excited, and taunting me to move to 2.3 was the EFX, with buttons on the x1 you can set to toggle on and off (lights) and knobs to map I had my page 2 all lined up for that.

now i read efx is all jacked up in 2.3.3
so 57 efx it is.
djpuma_gemini 2:01 AM - 3 March, 2012
JC since you're using ME Demo 2.0 (in the video remix report)
how does the x1 handle all the new stuff, is the X1 enough?
Dj Nyce 2:39 AM - 3 March, 2012
I've been using the akai lpd8 with ME no problem. I might the traktor control a look tho.
phatbob 2:49 AM - 3 March, 2012
The X1 is one of the rare breed of products which I have never seen a user say bad things about. Quite tempted myself.
Dj-M.Bezzle 5:29 PM - 3 March, 2012
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The X1 is one of the rare breed of products which I have never seen a user say bad things about. Quite tempted myself.



+1, i broke my nanokontrol thurs night so i upgraded to the nanokontrol 2...while i was in GC getting it i had the temptation to give the X1 a shot, i hear great things about it but decided to just grab the kontol2 for the moment, GREAT UPDATE, its alot nicer than the original and maps great to ME
dj-dave-d 2:36 PM - 4 March, 2012
had my x1 2 years now love it it even took a whole can of red bull last night like a boss !! still worked perfect if not a little sticky
Eloy Garcia 6:58 AM - 6 March, 2012
I been using a iPad with Touch OSC here is my layout:

www.mediafire.com

Have fun if you have a iPad!
Eloy Garcia 7:27 AM - 6 March, 2012
and I am going to be a nice and give you all ME 2.0:

[link removed]
WarpNote 7:52 AM - 6 March, 2012
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I been using a iPad with Touch OSC here is my layout:

www.mediafire.com

Have fun if you have a iPad!

Elroy, is this another joke of yours?

When opening the file in Touch OSC Editor I get:
"Failed to open layout"
"file might be corrupted or unreadable"
Eloy Garcia 1:55 PM - 6 March, 2012
WarpNote's I'll look in to the file.
Let me know people if you can't open my OSC file.

Yo there is no "r" in my name just in case ..... LOL
djpuma_gemini 4:12 PM - 6 March, 2012
wassup Elroy

Elroy mofuckin Jetson.

haha
WarpNote 6:46 PM - 6 March, 2012
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Yo there is no "r" in my name just in case ..... LOL

Noted :)
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:50 PM - 6 March, 2012
Eloy Garcia 8:13 PM - 6 March, 2012



You guys are fucking up and getting me back for the zip file!
Eloy Garcia 8:14 PM - 6 March, 2012
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wassup Elroy

Elroy mofuckin Jetson.

haha


Now Puma no ME 2.0 for you!
djpuma_gemini 8:23 PM - 6 March, 2012
damnit it.
ok so sorry.
Eloy
Eloy Garcia 9:00 PM - 6 March, 2012
hahahahah
tomatoslice 9:03 PM - 6 March, 2012
the r is silent
Eloy Garcia 9:03 PM - 6 March, 2012
hahahaha
tomatoslice 9:07 PM - 6 March, 2012
pronounced ee-LOY ga-SEE-uh
Eloy Garcia 9:10 PM - 6 March, 2012
yup!
DJRemixEnt 1:51 AM - 7 March, 2012
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I been using a iPad with Touch OSC here is my layout:

www.mediafire.com

Have fun if you have a iPad!


anymore info on setting this up??? i was gonna get an X1 for ME, but ive got an Ipad, and would rather put it to use... any info or tutorials on setting this up would be greatly appreciated! thanx
WarpNote 4:21 AM - 7 March, 2012
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Yo there is no "r" in my name just in case ..... LOL

Noted :)

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You guys are fucking up and getting me back for the zip file!

Actually, I'm dyslectic :)

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Now Puma no ME 2.0 for you!

Oooh! gimme that shiny northpole-cougar software asap ;)

Eloy, I'm not a video jockey, but bought ME last year in order to add own visuals to music.
Graphic reel over here > warpnote.blogspot.com

Got the 68, and thinking about getting the ipad3/2S alongside. (been using the ipod touch with OSC). Also have the X1, HC1000S, Dicers, APC20 & MPD 24 btw. Was thinking about the 62, but gonna see how this whole Serato vs Inklen debate plays out, before I rush anything....

I did have a go at "regular" video some time ago > Watchvimeo.com or warpnote.blogspot.com However, it was an Ableton mix, then added footage in FCP later on. A pain to sync up everything. Some footage by myself in this one, full credits below the video after the link.
> Watchvimeo.com or warpnote.blogspot.com

Now, how about that OSC template?
WarpNote 4:23 AM - 7 March, 2012
Sorry, I messed up some of those links, first 3 links showreel, 4th videomix, last shoreel aswell. Videomix on my blog... > warpnote.blogspot.com
Code:E 8:30 PM - 7 March, 2012
I use an MPD 32. and a Maudio Xsession Pro. between those 2 i chave EVERYTHING in ME mapped. and it works very well.
PopRoXxX 5:32 PM - 12 March, 2012
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I been using a iPad with Touch OSC here is my layout:

www.mediafire.com

Have fun if you have a iPad!


NICE!! How do you link "A" - "Mid" - "B" separtely?? I've been trying to figure this out!! Got some more questions after I play with your layout compared to mine. So expect a PM within a few days or a week.

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and I am going to be a nice and give you all ME 2.0:

This should def be a PM. Hit me up son. LOL!!!

[link removed]
PopRoXxX 5:33 PM - 12 March, 2012
^^^^ quote fail

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and I am going to be a nice and give you all ME 2.0:

[link removed]


This should def be a PM. Hit me up son. LOL!!!
tomatoslice 5:44 PM - 12 March, 2012
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^^^^ quote fail

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and I am going to be a nice and give you all ME 2.0:

[link removed]


This should def be a PM. Hit me up son. LOL!!!


tinyurl.com
Eloy Garcia 6:34 PM - 12 March, 2012
I am making a video this week on how my layout works guys and how to program it.

This file might help you for now! www.mediafire.com
The is to be used with www.osculator.net

Have FUN!!!
PopRoXxX 8:43 PM - 12 March, 2012
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^^^^ quote fail

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and I am going to be a nice and give you all ME 2.0:

[link removed]


This should def be a PM. Hit me up son. LOL!!!


tinyurl.com


DAMN YOU!! lol
PopRoXxX 8:43 PM - 12 March, 2012
I knew it was a fake before clicking. But I just got "RICK ROLLED"! Hahahahaha!
Eloy Garcia 1:52 AM - 13 March, 2012
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I knew it was a fake before clicking. But I just got "RICK ROLLED"! Hahahahaha!


Ya the ME 2.0 link that I put out was a zip file to a Rick Roll video! Tomato slice Got you!
DJRemixEnt 2:58 AM - 13 March, 2012
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I am making a video this week on how my layout works guys and how to program it.

This file might help you for now! www.mediafire.com
The is to be used with www.osculator.net

Have FUN!!!


Thank Eloy Garcia,
greatly appreciated, now i dont have to buy a midi controller!
Eloy Garcia 3:44 AM - 13 March, 2012
There going to be a full update to that layout this week about 5 pages long with all my effects and transitions on it.
PopRoXxX 2:42 PM - 13 March, 2012
Damn! 5 pages?? That might be a bit overkill for me. I'm good with 2 ...... MAYBE 3. lol
Eloy Garcia 6:09 PM - 13 March, 2012
The other pages will be for DMX lighting controls and presets.
djpuma_gemini 6:10 PM - 13 March, 2012
what about me effects
PopRoXxX 11:19 PM - 13 March, 2012
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The other pages will be for DMX lighting controls and presets.


Oh ok. I won't need those then
Code:E 11:30 PM - 13 March, 2012
Eloy what DMX lighting program are you sending this midi Data too? is this in a residency club?
I ask because i want to start doing the same thing. The club i work at has Martin Light jockey and it sucks balls for Midi control. I have discovered that i need to also run a program that translated midi data to DMX data to have decent control of the program.
DJ JT Stevens 9:11 PM - 15 March, 2012
What is everyone's initial impression of the F1?

www.skratchworx.com

I already have the X1 but might grab one of these as well if it turns out to be fully midi-mappable. Those extra sliders and knobs would be great for tweaking effect parameters, and from a purely audio standpoint those huge pads look ideal for triggering samples.
tomatoslice 9:20 PM - 15 March, 2012
looks nice...i understand why they did it but i have never really liked pre-written functions on a device that can be changed by the user.
hope the colors can be changed and customized, like the dicers.
Dj Nyce 9:21 PM - 15 March, 2012
"Serato and Ableton's Bridge hasn't exactly set the world on fire."

quote of the year
djpuma_gemini 9:26 PM - 15 March, 2012
How does it differ from the X1
DJ JT Stevens 9:46 PM - 15 March, 2012
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looks nice...i understand why they did it but i have never really liked pre-written functions on a device that can be changed by the user.
hope the colors can be changed and customized, like the dicers.

I know what you mean. I'm big into aesthetics and this irks me on my X1. I just try to set up the functions in SSL to mirror what the buttons do as best as possible and memorize the rest.

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How does it differ from the X1

I think it's meant to integrate seamlessly with Traktor Pro 2.5 and control those remix decks for the samples. The color coding seems to have a lot to do with it too. Besides that I'm not entirely sure..
tomatoslice 10:06 PM - 15 March, 2012
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"Serato and Ableton's Bridge hasn't exactly set the world on fire."

quote of the year



i have never used it but is it possible that it's greatly misunderstood or used?
i mean is it good, TOO GOOD?

for instance the depth of the audio effects when the 57 came out were unbelievable.
so much that people still think the on board pioneer effects of a 600 are better.
to this day i yet to see someone take the effects of a 57 to the next level, but it is possible.
tomatoslice 10:06 PM - 15 March, 2012
is it greatly misunderstood or UNDER used?
djpuma_gemini 10:56 PM - 15 March, 2012
under used and understood.
I use mixtape more than the bridge. I get the grid effect which is great when ME 2.0 comes out, but not sure what the bridge actually does.
AKIEM 12:12 AM - 16 March, 2012
I think the 57 effects would have been more used if they could have been triggered externally. Or if the 57 had a better system for changing groups. I never change groups because there is nothing on the mixer that tells me exactly what group I am in.
WarpNote 12:18 AM - 16 March, 2012
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Or if the 57 had a better system for changing groups.

Yeah, the FX setup on the 57 was the reason I never bought one.
I do love the FX on the 68 though, and the 62 seems even better.
Code:E 4:35 AM - 27 March, 2012
DJ'Que 5:05 AM - 27 March, 2012
Do U have have to post this in every ME thread. Really .

1 big ME is finally here is enough.
Code:E 5:18 AM - 27 March, 2012
not every one just the top 4
DJ'Que 6:14 AM - 27 March, 2012
haha