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Im tired of this SHIT!!! why this is not in the NEWS??????

DJMuErTe 3:31 AM - 7 October, 2011
OK been a Mexican i have to say something about this shit!!!
Why the news dont show whats really happening South of the boarder?
they dont care? they dont know? or they dont give a shit ?
this war between drug cartels is out of hand !!!!

vkontakte.ru

VERY EXPLICIT VIDEO
DONT SEE THIS UNLESS YOU REALLY SURE YOU CAN HANDLE!!!!!!!
PLEASE IF YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT WHATS HAPPENING DONT WATCH THIS!!!!
ITS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD BELIEVE ME....

If you care about this issue then see for your self how bad its south of the boarder right now.
BERTO 3:40 AM - 7 October, 2011
cant stop the supply unless you stop the demand.....fix drug use here and it would die down quick
d:raf 4:37 AM - 7 October, 2011
...or legalize 'em.
RogerRabbit 5:04 AM - 7 October, 2011
Man WTF!!

WTF!!


I had to pause that mess..

You could have just said this is LIVE VIDEO two dude getting there heads cut off with with a chainsaw..

And this is; and has been in the news.. Maybe not this story specifically but the going drug war..
d:raf 5:53 AM - 7 October, 2011
Actually, only the first guy got the chainsaw; the 2nd got his throat slit with a knife...

Yeah, kinda graphic...
RogerRabbit 6:27 AM - 7 October, 2011
Ok - didn't watch they whole sh*t - point is, it is two humans being murdered..

That's not something I want to watch for entertainment(knowing that it is real).
DJ Unique 6:34 AM - 7 October, 2011
This shit is disgusting but is happening every day in Mexico.
Drug Cartels fighting each other for control of drug routes.

There is a Mexican blog where you can get your Drug Trafficking news.
www.blogdelnarco.com
toasted 6:43 AM - 7 October, 2011
only way to stop it is to legalize it, drug use will not go away by any other means
turn it in to a proper business,make them pay taxes and use that money on education and rehabilitation
then the money doesnt have to be hidden away and it can be used to start other businesses to boost the local economy
sixxx 2:24 PM - 7 October, 2011
Yeah. You could've said two humans got murdered live. Anyway, I watched the whole thing. It doesn't phase me as I've seen it LIVE in person. Nothing phases me nowadays.

Having said that... I still think it's very fucked up. But you're right, supply and demand.

It goes deeper than drugs though.
DJ Sniffles 3:58 PM - 7 October, 2011
That dudes body was still trying to breathe. I've seen it before. Had to pick up a head too. (they were decapitating people left and right in Mosul for a few weeks and we had to pick up the bodies)

Still, never saw someones head get chainsawed off. That was pretty gross.
BERTO 4:29 PM - 7 October, 2011
When you legalize it you create another type of problem. You have a competition for who is producing it for legal sales.....meaning if x company makes it guess what itsmgoing tonget blown up so y company can make it and so on, in amsterdam the source of the highly controlled legal susbstances are still illegal if you didnt know that aleady, and the amount consumed by customer is very low, and on top of that the coffee shops can only have a certain amount of legal substance in shop at a time.
BERTO 4:29 PM - 7 October, 2011
Its going to get blown up*******
d:raf 4:39 PM - 7 October, 2011
If that's the case why haven't all the breweries/distilleries/etc. been blowing each other up? Alcohol used to be illegal too...
BERTO 5:24 PM - 7 October, 2011
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If that's the case why haven't all the breweries/distilleries/etc. been blowing each other up? Alcohol used to be illegal too...

And there was crime from prohibition.....also the drug industry is waaaaaay bigger than alcohol no?
BERTO 5:25 PM - 7 October, 2011
Also the players in the alcohol game were mostly city gangsters we are talking about world cartels
Crackpipe 5:41 PM - 7 October, 2011
I am against legalizing illicit drugs.
dj_soo 6:09 PM - 7 October, 2011
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And there was crime from prohibition.....


isn't that the point? prohibition creates the black market. Doesn't matter how harsh you make the punishment, people are still going to want to get fucked up.
BERTO 6:30 PM - 7 October, 2011
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And there was crime from prohibition.....


isn't that the point? prohibition creates the black market. Doesn't matter how harsh you make the punishment, people are still going to want to get fucked up.

Yea ppl use but the DEA thinks that legal susbstances (smokes, booze) create death, problems, ect, their ideology from an interview i saw was " we have these legal products that create problem in our society( alcoholism, accidents, cancer, violence ect) so why add another legal substance that will create more problems (drug addiction, overdoses, family issues, accidents) "
this is why we will probably never see a legalization of the now illegal drugs
toasted 6:43 PM - 7 October, 2011
as long as the pharma,alcohol and cigarette company’s are paying for the anti drugs propaganda and filling the governments pockets it will stay this way
it creates the government plenty of money at the moment and they like there wars plus it helps keep legal slavery alive in prisons
FunkyRob 6:51 PM - 7 October, 2011
This was Cartel vs Cartel right?

Crazy fucked up.

Can somebody translate what they were saying? All I could tell was their names first and then they went into something else.

What drugs are they bringing in anyway?
sixxx 6:58 PM - 7 October, 2011
Basically, these two dudes got caught snitching and well, they got served as a way of putting fear in anyone else that will snitch.
Jsavino 7:00 PM - 7 October, 2011
so USA will go help every other country but wont step in to help its neighbor?
dj_soo 7:07 PM - 7 October, 2011
the US right now won't even help their own people in need - but as soon as a country with a lot of oil is in danger of getting a government that won't allow the oil tycoons to rape them of their resources, they're all over that shit with guns blazing.
sixxx 7:10 PM - 7 October, 2011
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the US right now won't even help their own people in need - but as soon as a country with a lot of oil is in danger of getting a government that won't allow the oil tycoons to rape them of their resources, they're all over that shit with guns blazing.



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MSF 7:11 PM - 7 October, 2011
OMG! that vid pisses me off in a major way... I know the message they are trying to send by recording that..... but I didnt like that vid at all..makes me mad! I just hate seeing people treated like that.
d:raf 7:54 PM - 7 October, 2011
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And there was crime from prohibition.....

Yea ppl use but the DEA thinks that legal susbstances (smokes, booze) create death, problems, ect, their ideology from an interview i saw was " we have these legal products that create problem in our society( alcoholism, accidents, cancer, violence ect) so why add another legal substance that will create more problems (drug addiction, overdoses, family issues, accidents) "
this is why we will probably never see a legalization of the now illegal drugs


It doesn't create those problems now? If anything keeping it illegal creates more violence at the very least; seen any stories about beheadings over Miller Light?
d:raf 7:54 PM - 7 October, 2011
ahh... quotastrophe...
sixxx 7:55 PM - 7 October, 2011
You guys are funny. The beheadings are not are about CONTROL and nothing more.
DJ Dac 10:30 PM - 7 October, 2011
w.t.f....
Gouda 2:52 AM - 8 October, 2011
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so USA will go help every other country but wont step in to help its neighbor?

excuse me amigo. who is employing all the illegal immigrants that come over here? those fuckas even get fake green cards and pay taxes to unlce sammy then send money back to meh he co to support the 8 kids they have.so who's not helping it's negihbor?
DJ Sniffles 4:19 PM - 8 October, 2011
We don't just go to other countries and help them..... We help countries that are of interest to us. Like natural resources and such.
dj_craigmac 12:11 AM - 9 October, 2011
That NONSENSE has started to spill over into my beautiful san diego. I used to be international and dj in mexico all the time, not anymore. Goin to TJ or Rosarito now might cost u your life.
DJ'Que 12:40 AM - 9 October, 2011
dam can watch it went to some crazy site
DJ GaFFle 2:24 PM - 9 October, 2011
Can someone repost the link to the video?
DJ GaFFle 2:37 PM - 9 October, 2011
I just noticed the OP's DJ name yet he's complaining about the killings. Is your name DJ battle related?

I wonder if the drug violence in Mexico has put a serious or any dent in the tourism there. I know I won't think about crossing that border due to recent events. It's all very unfortunate, especially for the people caught in the middle (or crossfire)...
d:raf 6:01 PM - 9 October, 2011
I showed the video to a friend of mine who showed it to her Columbian husband; completely different take:

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Actually my husband said they aren't snitches... They are drug dealers that were caught by whoever the men in military uniforms are, he said those men aren't like official gvmnt or military ... But they are the group that handle narcos, or anyone affiliated with drug cartels, so they're kind of the good guys lol..
And the men were saying their names, and where and what they were paid to do...and which groups they did it for... And the older man was saying he did some job for only 300 pesos.. and that it wasn't worth it... Anyway, the video was for that reason... To show anyone working for or even thinking of working for drug cartels... That this is what we do to you
RogerRabbit 1:37 AM - 10 October, 2011
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I showed the video to a friend of mine who showed it to her Columbian husband; completely different take:

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Actually my husband said they aren't snitches... They are drug dealers that were caught by whoever the men in military uniforms are, he said those men aren't like official gvmnt or military ... But they are the group that handle narcos, or anyone affiliated with drug cartels, so they're kind of the good guys lol..
And the men were saying their names, and where and what they were paid to do...and which groups they did it for... And the older man was saying he did some job for only 300 pesos.. and that it wasn't worth it... Anyway, the video was for that reason... To show anyone working for or even thinking of working for drug cartels... That this is what we do to you

But if the drug cartels and the men who are against the drug cartel - kill in the same manner - what is the difference? They are both barbaric..
d:raf 1:58 AM - 10 October, 2011
What "war" isn't?
DJ Dac 3:31 AM - 10 October, 2011
living in Arizona i know that you stay the hells out of border towns, but if you head inland a bit to the resort areas then its not as bad. but its a completely fucked up situation going on...
DJ Unique 6:00 AM - 10 October, 2011
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I showed the video to a friend of mine who showed it to her Columbian husband; completely different take:

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Actually my husband said they aren't snitches... They are drug dealers that were caught by whoever the men in military uniforms are, he said those men aren't like official gvmnt or military ... But they are the group that handle narcos, or anyone affiliated with drug cartels, so they're kind of the good guys lol..
And the men were saying their names, and where and what they were paid to do...and which groups they did it for... And the older man was saying he did some job for only 300 pesos.. and that it wasn't worth it... Anyway, the video was for that reason... To show anyone working for or even thinking of working for drug cartels... That this is what we do to you

Wrong.
The Military-looking guys are probably Los Zetas who are the opposition to the Chapo Cartel. These guys are always killing each other.
str8nger 11:29 PM - 10 October, 2011
Why can't I watch the video? I clicked on the link and it shows nothing but some wired language writing....
d:raf 12:17 AM - 11 October, 2011
They took it down or hid it behind a strange button that I refuse to click (it could say "download virus" for all I know)...
str8nger 12:19 AM - 11 October, 2011
Dam that sucks was so looking foward to view this
RogerRabbit 6:56 AM - 11 October, 2011
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Dam that sucks was so looking foward to view this

Trust me - that is not something you want playing back in your head..
Wazo 4:53 PM - 11 October, 2011
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Dam that sucks was so looking foward to view this

Trust me - that is not something you want playing back in your head..


yeah i trust him. these kind of things linger with me for years and years.

i still remember some shit i saw on rotten.com when i was a kid.

why would you want to see something like that. come on, its humans being killed. its shit. really shit and im surprised this link was allowed on this site.

you cant sell your techs on this site, but you want some murder? you got it.
d:raf 5:11 PM - 11 October, 2011
I don't see it as being all that different from watching Saddam Hussein get hanged... just messier.

I bet if there was video of Bin Laden getting shot it would have been all over the intarwebs and probably would have gotten 10 million views...
DJ GaFFle 5:15 PM - 11 October, 2011
Very violent, cruel and barbaric video... I don't need to see any more stuff like this, ever.
DJ Schematic 6:44 PM - 11 October, 2011
crazy stuff. cnn just announced that the Iranian gov't paid some Mexican drug cartel to set up an assassination on some sort of Iranian official in the US. these guys are nuts haha
DJ Unique 5:13 AM - 12 October, 2011
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crazy stuff. cnn just announced that the Iranian gov't paid some Mexican drug cartel to set up an assassination on some sort of Iranian official in the US. these guys are nuts haha

The idiotic Iranian Official went to Mexico to talk to a Drug Cartel contact which actually turned out to be CIA. They arrested one Iranian but were looking for another.
RogerRabbit 6:05 AM - 12 October, 2011
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Very violent, cruel and barbaric video... I don't need to see any more stuff like this, ever.

Agreed. This is similar to the time I watch first American student who got beheaded by the talaban and the video was on the internet. I changed & my infected perception of Muslims and I could could purchase anything from their stores for a long time - I felt like was supporting terrorism.

Point is, vids like these, mutilations/death-on-cam videos - often fail at their intended purpose, intimidation. More often they enrage more than intimidate.

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I don't see it as being all that different from watching Saddam Hussein get hanged... just messier.

I bet if there was video of Bin Laden getting shot it would have been all over the intarwebs and probably would have gotten 10 million views...

Seeing someone get shot or hanged is not even in the same category. Videos of people getting shot are shown on the local news sometimes - it is just not that gruesome..
Audio1 7:29 PM - 17 October, 2011
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the US right now won't even help their own people in need - but as soon as a country with a lot of oil is in danger of getting a government that won't allow the oil tycoons to rape them of their resources, they're all over that shit with guns blazing.
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Yeah. You could've said two humans got murdered live. Anyway, I watched the whole thing. It doesn't phase me as I've seen it LIVE in person. Nothing phases me nowadays.
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DJ NewYork 2:32 AM - 22 October, 2011
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cant stop the supply unless you stop the demand.....fix drug use here and it would die down quick

+1 BURTO
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:33 PM - 22 October, 2011
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cant stop the supply unless you stop the demand.....fix drug use here and it would die down quick

+1 BURTO



sure fix drug use, its only engrained into the human condition and been practiced since the dawn of time, how about we look at the REAL problem and fix the PERCEPTION of drug use. You can use drugs responsibly and be a functional member of society, why is it OK for the government to put restrictions on YOU exploring YOUR OWN MIND!!
sixxx 6:27 PM - 22 October, 2011
Because people are STUPID and there is no way you can expect everyone to start any kind of drug use and it not get out of hand. Remember, it's a drug. Once it takes over, you're fucked.
toasted 5:19 PM - 24 October, 2011
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Because people are STUPID and there is no way you can expect everyone to start any kind of drug use and it not get out of hand. Remember, it's a drug. Once it takes over, you're fucked.

some people have no self control so it doesnt matter if its ecstasy,cola or skydiving
shame that the majority get locked up due to a minority
i can say that ive never had a problem with drugs, i cant say that about alcohol and cigs though
theres only one drug that will leave you in a pool of your own piss and vomit unable to remember your own name and thats alcohol
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:04 PM - 24 October, 2011
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Because people are STUPID and there is no way you can expect everyone to start any kind of drug use and it not get out of hand. Remember, it's a drug. Once it takes over, you're fucked.



very ignorant statment
dj_soo 7:10 PM - 24 October, 2011
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Because people are STUPID and there is no way you can expect everyone to start any kind of drug use and it not get out of hand. Remember, it's a drug. Once it takes over, you're fucked.


same can be said about alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, credit addiction, overeating, porn addiction, and many other legal avenues to fuck up your life.

So by that logic all of that should be illegal too in case some fuckups might not be able to handle it?
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:10 PM - 24 October, 2011
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Because people are STUPID and there is no way you can expect everyone to start any kind of drug use and it not get out of hand. Remember, it's a drug. Once it takes over, you're fucked.


same can be said about alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, credit addiction, overeating, porn addiction, and many other legal avenues to fuck up your life.

So by that logic all of that should be illegal too in case some fuckups might not be able to handle it?



to break the statment down further

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there is no way you can expect everyone to start any kind of drug use and it not get out of hand


A) Just because the drug is made legal dosent mean EVERYONE will jump on it, people who want to do it will do it people who dont wont....kinda like it is right now lol

B) "any kind of drug",,,,,tylonol is legal, and it has not gotten out of hand
DJ Dac 8:26 PM - 24 October, 2011
i think there are a few drugs that should be super illegal, loose on everything else ie. pot, not really bad, meth- really really bad... and so on...
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:00 PM - 28 October, 2011
we have larger problems that arent being reported

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Op-Ed: Blacklist Bill allows Feds to remove websites from Internet
By Nancy Houser.
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The House version of the Internet Blacklist Bill was released October 26, 2011, with no effort to fix problems that existed in the Senate version. A violation of the First Amendment, it is contrary to official positions of internet freedom and censorship.
“Under the Internet Blacklist Bill -- S.968, formally called the PROTECT IP Act -- the Department of Justice would force search engines, browsers, and service providers to block users' access to websites that have been accused of copyright infringement -- without even giving them a day in court.” (Demand Progress)
The S.968 bill is considered dangerous and short-sighted due to its broad writing that covers a multitude of issues, bringing danger to not only Internet security but is considered a serious threat to free online speech and innovation. The Censorship-galore Department describes it as an attempt to build the Great Firewall of America, requiring service providers to block access to certain websites.
This bill could shut down YouTube, Twitter and many other social websites that bring together the Occupy movements across the nation and world---any user-generated content site where the law can make the sites’ owners legally responsible for the posted content of its users.
Additionally, the bill could shut down music storage lockers and cloud-based products, while its broad-based terminology includes provisions that allow selected websites to be charged with felony charges for streaming unlicensed content---video game play-throughs, coverage of band performances and karaoke videos.


Nancy Houser
"The bill also threatens to take away Americans’ rights to safe, affordable medications by blocking access to licensed and regulated pharmacies outside of the U.S. that require a prescription."
Like thisAs reported to Tech Dirt the CCIA, CEA and NetCoalition prepared a joint letter to members of Congress who had originally sponsored the bill, saying that on behalf of the technology industry they had never been approached about the bill.
This is ironic, as Protect IP is basically driven by the demands of the entertainment industry. Yet the bill will dramatically reduce jobs, job growth and innovation in the country---something promised by the GOP when they were voted into office and something not yet seen.
The House had previously agreed to meet with organizations that represented the tech industry and who would be most affected by Protect IP. However, the House has chosen to rush the bill through this past Wednesday without listening to professional opinions or advice from the tech industry, individuals who feel strongly that the bill is “jobs-destroying,” “innovative-binding,” “and internet-breaking.”
Letter to the GOP House from CCIA, CEA and NetCoalition:
October 24, 2011
Via Facsimile and E-Mail
The Honorable Lamar Smith Chairman Committee on the Judiciary House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
The Honorable John Conyers, Jr. Ranking Member Committee on the Judiciary House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
The Honorable Bob Goodlatte Chairman Subcommittee on Intellectual Property, Competition, and the Internet Committee on the Judiciary House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
The Honorable Mel Watt Ranking Member Subcommittee on Intellectual Property, Competition, and the Internet Committee on the Judiciary House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
Dear Chairman Smith and Representatives Conyers, Goodlatte, and Watt:
We want to thank you for convening a meeting on Friday in regard to the legislative proposal to address rogue foreign websites that infringe the rights of U.S. IP owners. We also appreciate the time your staff has devoted to this important and complex issue. We regard this initial meeting as a productive step toward building consensus around a solution, and we urge that the Committee await introducing legislation until the affected stakeholders can comment meaningfully on the specifics of the approach.
One point of consensus that appeared to emerge in Friday’s meeting was that in an area as complex as Internet regulation, the specific text by which the framework is implemented matters greatly. Thus, the stakeholders who stand to be directly affected by the regulatory framework under consideration should be consulted on the text.
For this reason, we urge you to reconvene affected stakeholders and experts when a draft has been prepared, and utilize the input that they may provide before introducing legislation. Our industries remain committed to working with all stakeholders to craft a legislative proposal that addresses this issue without undue collateral damage.
Sincerely, Computer & Communications
Industry Association (CCIA)
Consumer Electronics Association (CEA)
NetCoalition
With the Internet Blacklist Bill literally shoved through the House, those same copyright holders will be able to cut off advertising and payment processing to such sites. Without court review.


Read more: www.digitaljournal.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:13 PM - 28 October, 2011
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i think there are a few drugs that should be super illegal, loose on everything else ie. pot, not really bad, meth- really really bad... and so on...



I just had what may possibly be a good idea would would kill multiple birds with one stone, its kinda based on portugals method of making selling illegal but noncriminalising the users on a case by case basis.

What if we put a system in place where the user was treated according to his value to societety? In other words if police pull you over and take you in and you have no job, your bumming on someones couch and havent paid child support you go to jail for possession, if you get caught and you have a job but you were doing some fed up ish on the substance you get a large fine, if they take you in and you have a good job, your on time on your bills you have a great fam ect you dont get any punishment. This would encourage people to be productive members of societey by rewarding their needs for their contributions
toasted 4:20 PM - 28 October, 2011
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i think there are a few drugs that should be super illegal, loose on everything else ie. pot, not really bad, meth- really really bad... and so on...



I just had what may possibly be a good idea would would kill multiple birds with one stone, its kinda based on portugals method of making selling illegal but noncriminalising the users on a case by case basis.

What if we put a system in place where the user was treated according to his value to societety? In other words if police pull you over and take you in and you have no job, your bumming on someones couch and havent paid child support you go to jail for possession, if you get caught and you have a job but you were doing some fed up ish on the substance you get a large fine, if they take you in and you have a good job, your on time on your bills you have a great fam ect you dont get any punishment. This would encourage people to be productive members of societey by rewarding their needs for their contributions




they already do that in the uk
upper class and rich caught with crack,coke,weed and heroin and offering it freely at your own party, no worrys
part of the royal family doing drugs= no problem
friend of mine caught with a few grands worth of coke and cs gas = no problem his dad knows a member of the masons didnt even get to court

anyone else your going down
Free Man 8:44 PM - 14 November, 2011
Some people say that the US doesnt do anything because there are people with deep pockets and power in the US that have an interest in the drug trade....

Thoughts??

What would it take for the US to get involved to any level? Do you think we'd be able to keep the cartel troups at the boarder?
toasted 3:00 PM - 15 November, 2011
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What would it take for the US to get involved to any level? Do you think we'd be able to keep the cartel troups at the boarder?


if the cartels started buying up the oil at source and offering a higher price than the u.s i think they would kick off big style

i read a while back that the u.s was bringing in coke for one of the cartels in return for info on other smaller cartels, so it just goes to show there really not bothered about drugs being in the country if there aiding full on supply